Hmm I have a question... Is there anyone so far in the rocky verse that scales above the Rocky that fought Ivan? Or is that rocky the PEAK in all the movies
Honestly, imagine Damian if he never went to prison…might just be one of the top five or Even three greatest fighters to ever live in the rocky universe.
Clubber easy. Now image the clubber Lang we know from the movies. And imagine the first time Damien cheap shots clubber. The fight wouldn't even get finished cuz clubber is on his @$$.
Damian’s definitely very talented since how long he’s spent in prison and can now go against professionals and he’s only fought like 2 professional fights
@@CRISIS_COMICS How can a guy be in prison for 18 years come out and fight for the championship of the world without one pro fight under his belt or even being ranked in the top 100? He won amateur bouts as a teenager and never fought a pro fight. Even when Rocky fought Apollo he had dozens of pro fights under his belt even though he wasn't ranked high.
@@terryf3282 Because he manipulated Adonis into giving him that shot. It's in the movie. He knows he can't legitimately become champ so he pulls strings and cheats; it's in the movie.
@@blankname6629 I mean, we have a real life version in Deonte Wylder. Dude has one damn punch (the overhand right) and has made an entire career off it, despite having less Boxing skills than Rocky at the beginning of the first film.
Also Clubber was an actual Heavyweight when Damian,Adonis and Felix were Welterweights (Felix being Jose Benavidez Jr the welterweight contender for the WBO Belt)
Not much of a contest. For starts Rocky Balboa estabilshed that modern boxers like Damian aren't in the same league as the monsters Rocky tangled with in the 80s. Then you have to factor that Clubber was effectively a stronger and tougher version of the Rocky from I and II, a guy who could take a massive amount of punishment and dish it back ten-fold. Clubber could tank every punch Rocky threw at him and his haymakers left him so beaten Rocky had to train himself to avoid them. Last and most obvious is age. Clubber is only in his early 20s and in the prime of his life while Damian is almost 40 and in the last year or so of his potential for boxing. Put simply Clubber would murder Damian.
@@axelstone3131Rocky lost their first fight Rocky won the second and in the creed series he stated that Apollo won their 3rd fight behind closed doors lol do you even watch Rocky and creed?
That's because Clubber Lang "respected" Damian's mother enough to give her a son. Yes, they are definitely related. Clubber: "Your mother...there is no other...so treat her right. Treat her right."
Damian All day! He is waaaayy more technical. Plus 99% of his illegal moves were from Jailhouse Rock(Hence the Philly Shell Guard) and 52 Blocks(Hence the Cross Block Guard) which are legit prison martial arts. Clubber may have been brutal, but those prison styles would have thrown him off
Excellent point, he attacked the pressure points of his opponents. Think about how Ip Man defeated Twister the boxer in Ip Man 2. Even Self Defense instructors would tell you to attack the pressure points like the throat or whatnot in street fights. I got Damien in a victory against Clubber myself.
W. Glad Clubber is getting the respect he deserves. I can't believe people think he's one of the weakest opponents in the franchise. He's the 3rd strongest behind the Dragos. Yeah Sly said Adonis would beat him in 3 rounds, but that doesn't break his placement above Apollo as Rocky also said Adonis was a better fighter than his father could've ever hoped to be.
@@thareelhelloagain I disagree. Rocky vs Lang 2 might be my favorite fight because of the dodging and counter-attacking Rocky employs and Lang still traps and puts him in danger a few times. His skill comes in cutting off the ring. The Drago fight was big in scale but it was less technical in favor of a back-and-forth slugfest.
@@Think1stMedia I put Clubber behind Victor mainly due to Stallone confirming Adonis would beat him in 3 rounds yet Victor is arguably superior to Adonis.
@@miragenights801 victories stronger but no superior. We don't agree there. Just like Clubber is stronger than Rocky but not Surperior to him. Viktor doesn't impress me the way Ivan and Clubber did. He is solid, but those guys were monsters.
Clubber always has a puncher’s chance. The guy had monster power and speed; the type Damien likely never faced. Who knows if Damien is durable enough to withstand such force. Plus, it’s no wonder Clubber would tire out early. They’d throw like 100 punches each round. Lol
Clubber Lang has the best punching power in the Rocky series. He is the only one to KO Rocky and he made Rocky have to block and duck punches in the second fight. Damien would get smashed by just a few hooks.
@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS wrong it’s drago the guy literally killed a guy in the ring. They even show you measurements that are insane power. You could say rocky dodged punches against clubber only in one round. After that he was back to his let me use my head to block your punch strategy lol
Honestly I'm glad someone is scaling these characters cuz I swear the rocky franchise is ripe for scaling characters I think a tier list video would be a good idea! Especially with each movie Version of each characters
S Tier - Ivan Drago, Rocky (IV) A - Victor Drago, Adonis (C2), Apolo (Prime/End of III), Rocky (III), Clubber Lang B - Rocky (II), Apolo (II), Apolo (I), Rocky (I) C - Adonis (+ Fighters in C1), Conlan, Adonis (C3 trained after retirement), Damian D - Tommy Gun E - Mason Dixon 1. The Drago's might be considered stronger than the people they lost to because of the way the mom/wife and country betrayed them and affected their mental state, plus Rocky was barely holding in there until the cut in later rounds. 2. Rocky possibly didn't lie to Adonis saying he was better than Apolo could have hoped to be (I believe in Creed 2), so that puts Clubber slightly below them. 3. Apolo is supposedly the greatest American boxer next to Rocky, and beat Rocky after Clubber's fight, so I think it's safe to say Apolo seriously underestimated Rocky in part I and II, even the second fight he was older and came off of recovering. 4. Hard to say if Adonis and Damian were stronger than Apolo and Rocky in Part 1 and 2, or even if Adonis in III was stronger than he was in Creed I, but Conlan was a champion and Damian was rustier, and technically Conlan only lost after Adonis beat Victor. 5. Tommy Gun and Mason only fought shadows of Rocky where he was old or didn't train, I have no idea where these vs would go if higher, and the same goes for Rocky in these movies since at least in V greatly outclassed Tommy even when he wasn't training, possibly in A or B Tier.
Alternate List (probably according to this video to boost Creed 3 Sales): S Tier - Ivan Drago, Rocky (IV) A - Victor Drago, Adonis (C2), Apolo (Prime/End of III), Rocky (III), Clubber Lang B - Adonis (C3), Damian, Rocky (II), Apolo (II) C - Apolo (I), Rocky (I), Adonis (C1), Conlan, D - Tommy Gun E - Mason Dixon
I found your channel through Rocky Balboa vs Adonis Creed video and I enjoyed it! This match up would have been interesting to see! Can't wait until the next video!
It's pretty easy to figure out: Clubber tires out super easily while Damian is much smarter. I feel like he'd knock him out even faster than Rocky did.
He doesn't tire THAT easily. Remember he went through the middle-late rounds in his fights at the start of the movie. I feel a need to emphasize that Rocky during his second fight with Lang was basically an Apollo/Rocky fusion, with footwork and elusiveness comparable to Apollo but maintaining the iron strength and resilience he's always had. Rocky goaded Lang into wasting all of his energy on throwing consecutive flurries for 2 rounds straight, taunting him all the while. Even playing a perfect strategy, his inhuman chin and durability were still needed to weather his blows to begin with. There was a multitude of factors that beat Clubber. It wasn't just Apollo's style, Rocky's baseline power played just as much of a role.
This seems ridiculous lmfao Clubber managed to knock ROCKY BALBOA out. Something not even IVAN DRAGO could do. And idc about endurance or skill cuz the version of Rocky that beat him was as good as we had ever seen him in the series. Clubber WINS ALL DAY
That'd be an intense fight but Damian is a Methodical and relentless fighter. With the right training team and a better focus I cant see him being beat.
People keep saying imagine of he didn't go to prison, well you are wrong! Prisons have the BEST boxing programs, mixed with no drugs or alcohol, plus the absolute NEED to be violent and strong at all times, and I speak from experience. There are many men in prison who could and would beat the best champions in the world. Boxing is pushed prison hard, the need to be controlled, not in trouble while in there, and fit to keep training keeps men from acting up, so your wrong. Now , creed isn't as good as his father or rocky , so him an Lang, I go with Lang one fight one, and maybe creed fight two if there is another.
Do you ever think you will put Rocky against any other boxers outside of the Rocky/Creed Verse? If so I would likely recommend using some characters from the Punch-Out! Franchise, as while some may argue higher scaling at least where Punch-Out! Wii is concerned, I have seen arguments that put these boxers in a similar Wall level tier to the upper crust of the R/C boxers.
When you look at Punch Out, Tyson is the strongest fighter in the series, right? Tyson is very similar to Clubber Lang, while Apolo Creed is similar to Muhammad Ali, and remember that Creed beat Rocky in Rocky 3 and is known as the best American boxer (excluding Rocky). I could be wrong, but that would place fighters in Rocky III, IV, and Creed II basically higher than anyone else in Punch Out. Yes, Little Mac can beat Tyson with perfect input, but if you put Ai vs Ai, Tyson wins in a few punches.
most people saying Damian would win. were born 2000 or after. they didnt grow up watching rocky. they grew up watching everything after rocky 5 plus creed movies. clubbervwould win
Yeah Damian’s not winning this. But I can’t imagine what could’ve happened I’d Damian didn’t get arrested with his skills and potential for his prime .
Did yall catch the call out in creed lll to Leo The Lion from the first creed movie. Guess hes doing pretty good in universe, too bad he was recovering from a recent fight and couldnt fight creed
@@ahkenaten522 I think that they look much smaller than Clubber. You can say that Clubber looks like a heavyweight, while Dame and Adonis are more like middleweights.
@@andreademontis8807 😂😂nigga I watched the movie mr t is small as fuck compared to Adonis and dame just watch the movies don’t go off memory. I thought he was bigger too until I actually seen it
I think Apollo was already on he decline when he fought those fights against Rocky, Apollo was ready to retire though he was still strong he was wasn't at his physical prime anymore. I don't thin Rocky was ever portrayed as an elite great boxer but a fighter not to be underestimated because he had the biggest heart of any Heavyweight, but he wasn't particularly strong, fast or technique wise, simply he would not give up, and will always get up no matter how many times he was brought down. The only fight he took and dive and didn't get back up was against Clubber Lang because he was under trained, cocky and had lost his heart but most importantly he wasn't in that fight he was worry about Micky. A declining Rocky away from his prime about to retire fought an absolute machine in his absolute physical prime in Clubber Lang, much similar to when Rocky first fought Apollo.
Prime Apollo has no feats. Rocky is known as a legendary fighter that fought the world champion twice, was trained by him, and knows everything there is to know about fighting. He also KO’d someone who can hit with 2,150 psi, Newton’s Third means he’d be just as durable too. Rocky haters and Apollo wankers are cringe.
@@CRISIS_COMICS Apollo’s prime has no feats because the movie wasn’t about him but it was stated in the Rocky verse that Apollo has been one of the greatest heavyweights ever and by the time of the first Rocky movie he really had no challenges and was already on the decline. Rocky in all of the fights received much more damage than his opponents but his durability was otherworldly but he dished out some damage too. But his KO’s wins against those great heavyweights were never due to his power or technical prowess it was due to exhaustion on the other boxers. I guess other than heart and durability it was also stamina I guess he had the greatest stamina of them all, and greatest heart and greatest durability. However we’re talking about an fictional character and comic book type of fights. The fact that Rocky wasn’t brain dead by the creed it’s astonishing. The only time Rocky actually used strategy was against Clubber Lang 2, his strategy was to tire him out by getting punched in the face while occasionally doing some damage as well until Lang had no strength to punch anymore much like Ali vs Foreman. Ali never KO Foreman because of his punching power he tired him out by using the rope a dope while getting his body pummeled by Foreman’s punches to his midsection while he snuck out a few punches to his head due to his incredible hand speed. Until Foreman couldn’t even lift up his hands then Ali knocked him out it was very similar what Rocky did to Clubber. And yes Rocky was a legendary fighter there’s no doubt about it he fought the best and beat the best but all of those fighters were better, bigger, stronger, and more technical sound than him, all of them beat the absolute crap out of him much more than what did to them but he exhausted them due to his incredible heart, durability and stamina.
He used strategy against Apollo, getting on the inside and tearing him up rather than getting jabbed, against Clubber; he was able to box and counter Clubber who's stated a perfectly trained fighter. Rocky is super skilled. If he beats the best, than he's better than the best in various capacities.
@CRISIS He has feats, while past his prime he took the superhuman Rocky to 12 rounds in the first movie. He also was stated in universe to be a perfect fighter. Sounds to me like you're a Rocky wanker and an Apollo hater. Everything in universe says he was the best or second best and you are going out of your way to say that's not the case.
Had to wait to watch this video, since I haven't seen Creed 3. Watched Creed 3 and can finally watch this video. Creed 3 was very cool, and no doubt this video is also cool.
How can we gauge Clubber's performance against Drago? From the dialogue stills it seems Lang was still on the verge of passing out before Drago's rage kicked in. The manner in which the dialogue is angled sounded more like Clubber was fighting fairly relative with a base Drago before being warded off mid diff and then got absolutely steamrolled once he went bloodlusted. Muddying things further is Drago wasn't rage boosted against Rocky yet was pulverizing him for the majority of their fight only losing at the last possible second by Rocky's instinct-amped willpower. I'd rank it as R4 Rocky >/= Drago > R3 Rocky > Lang. I can honestly see enraged Drago possibly keeping Rocky down.
The fact that Clubber took hits and endured at all is all I need to say for Clubber being > Damian. He also didn't get one shot by enraged Clubber as the dialogue describes a persistent assault. Also Rocky cut Drago the first time he connected with him and hit/countered Drago all throughout. Drago's motivation against Rocky in IV would be comparable to bloodlust, he got enraged at his handlers and self-actualized towards the ending fight with Rocky.
Make a tier list of top strongest characters in all rocky, creed saga I think ZERO zone 0. Paulie 1.rocky because of rocky 4 rocky 2. Ivan drago 3.prime apollo creed 4.adonis creed 5.viktor drago 6.damian andersln 7.clubber lang 8.ricky conlan 9.felix chavez 10. Tommy gunn 11.danny wheeler 12. Mason dixon
As a fan of both Rocky series and now the Creed series, nice video. I enjoyed your perspective, however I don’t know about that Clubber beating Apollo now. Clubber fought with an almost jealous anger if you will. Apollo was a pure skilled, and seasoned boxing champion. Apollo was a thinker, with not only speed, but power and skill, who moved better than Rocky did when he fought Clubber.
I absolutely LOVE how Apollo transformed Rocky, and it showed his fighting intelligence because he didn't just teach Rocky his Rhythm-and-Power, Stick-and-move MO, he also advised him based upon how Mickey trained Rock to beat HIM. Clubber Vs. Dame: I got Dame for all the reasons above. Unlike the video guy, I don't think Dame would be actually afraid of Clubber.
Apollo would outbox clubber. Rocky needed and beat clubber with Apollo technical skills and finesse. He's the one that laid the blueprint on how to beat clubber Of course he outboxes clubber. Apollo was just old already but he was the best in the series.
The funny thing about that Clubber vs Drago fight in Ready Rumble Boxing is if you take Sylvestor's scenario for Clubber becoming a born-again Christian he would have had his reawakening after Drago hospitalized and nearly killed him lol
clubber lang was the the # 1 villian out all rocky and adonis opponents it forced rocky to change his style because their is no scenes or clips of clubber making friends with rocky or apollo he makes friends with no one unless I could be wrong !
I wanna know, and it may be a dumb question to some but Apollo in his prime Vs Ivan Drago. I feel like Apollo lost mainly because of ring rust and age, younger Apollo was hungrier and had fire and strong reflexes I think he could pull it off, but he'd have to take it seriously, Apollo didn't take Drago serious enough in his fight and it was a reason he lost.
@@CRISIS_COMICS rocky 1 apollo wouldve possibly won against ivan as he faced against a mental amp rocky and didnt take him seriously at first but still came out with more points. Apollo was well past his prime in 4 and it showed by him slipping in the ring. He also was rewatching videos of the first fight with rock saying they cant do and move like that anymore. It was implied it was suicide because of how old he was, but it wouldnt have been out of the ordinary like in rocky 1
Rocky from Rocky 1 is far less skilled and physically capable than he is in IV, so Apollo beating him doesn't prove anything towards Apollo beating Drago. Just because he lost while out of his prime doesn't mean he'd win if he were in his prime, those are mutually exclusive. Rocky was trying to talk Apollo out of fighting Dragon because of his age, Balboa would've rather faced Ivan in Apollo's place because he's younger than Apollo. Feats are also > statements, and the statement was made before Rocky trained in Russian anyway; after the training he'd be > his Rocky 2/3 self based on statements AND feats.
@@CRISIS_COMICS We don't know if he fought no names or not. Keep in mind, Rocky Marciano was undefeated, and he fought guys like Joe Lewis. Granted, Joe Lewis was past his prime when they fought, but still. They still fought each other nonetheless. Plus in the first Rocky movie, we saw Joe Frazier make a cameo in the film if I'm not mistaken. Granted, we never get official confirmation if him and Apollo ever fought before, but it stands reasonable to assume they might've considering Apollo wasn't that much older or younger than Joe, so there's a real possibility they may have fought each other.
I would say Clubber mainly due to Damien's cross guard. That doesn't usually work against hooks and uppercuts, example: Foreman vs Holyfield, Foreman vs Frazier
Yeah but he also utilized the Philly Shell too which is kryptonite to hooks and upper cuts. Look at how easily Mayweather deals with aggressive brawlers. Plus the Philly Shell is an excellent way to initiate the clinch and we already know how Damian is in the clinch
@@Warrior519 lol I feel you. I noticed him using the Philly Shell cause I’m also a Philly Shell fighter. Btw, I noticed your a lifter that does martial arts too. Good shit bro, it’s rare to see a fellow martial artist that trains for hypertrophy 💪🏾🥋🥊
You can make that case for a lot of fiction; most fight scenes can be broken down for their inaccuracies. Yet all the same, the movie versions of Batman and Captain America are understood as master martial artists and >>> irl fighters in skill despite the potential of irl fighters critiquing choreography. In the actual fictional universe of Rocky/Creed, the Rocky era fighters are know as legendary and even held in high regard today by the writers/directors of the Creed movies. Looks can be deceiving.
I maybe would’ve agreed with you but creed III in terms of boxing is definitely the most unrealistic in the entire rocky universe. Still loved the movie but the fights were very anime.
@@DirtyDev anime in the shot style not the actual fighting anime tends to have very realistic fighting since it's based on real martial arts look at Baki it has realistic boxing in it
Maybe boxing sequence part but Creed 3 was most unrealistic movie of all Rocky based movies by far, even Rocky 6. I mean, 1 month preparation after 18 years in prison and he is already the best in the world? Title fight with 0 pro matches? Come on ...
@@maniac4034the whole point was he got lucky? Best in the world technically but he won ONE fight lmao. That’s not all that unrealistic , especially bc he fought dirty and was bigger than the dude he was fighting
I want to see a movie about Victor Drago including flashbacks to his upbrining in Russia with his dad. Would also like to see him win the belt. Lot left to explore in the Rockyverse.
Counterpoint: You're pitting a well past his prime, nearly 40 years old, Damian against a prime Clubber. Granted, we've only seen Damian fight before and past his prime, but we can extrapolate certain things. I think it would be fair to assume he would perform as well, if not better, against Donnie circa Creed 2 at the age he'd have been in Creed 2. And based on that, a prime Dame would beat a prime Clubber no sweat
@@johnmallqui8667 We know he was a better boxer than Donnie growing up. We know he kept in shape in prison. We know he was even more past his prime when he fought Adonis than Adonis was. Extrapolating that he'd have a similarly close fight with a prime Adonis while in his prime isn't much of a reach. And we know Adonis in his prime mops the floor with Clubber.
Clubber Lang was not fazed at all by Rocky's full power onslaught in in the first fight.. then had him nearly KOed within a dozen punches at end of round one. Extreme speed, power and pressure.. Drago would lose if strictly brawling
They matched in terms of strenght and experience, they both very aggressive, they both lack defense. That said, Damien has more endurance and durability. The match is balanced till 4th round, then clubber starts going down
You are assuming they are equal in strength. Adonis was stated to be better than Apolo, who beat Rocky (III ending) who beat Clubber, but Adonis wasn't at his prime in Creed 3.
They are not matched at all. Clubber fought way more professional fighters and completely obliterated them all. Plus he hits so hard that Rocky had to dodge and block in order to survive: something he didn't even do with Drago (not saying that Clubber hits harder than him obviously, just saying that it was the first time Rocky faced that kind of power) and was consistently knocking his ass to the ground. Not to mention Rocky already established in the Creed series that the newer guys weren't on the same level as far as the fighters from the 80s. Lang was also in his prime while Damian was far past it.
My Rocky boxer rankings: 1. Rocky Balboa 2. Ivan Drago 3. Apollo Creed 4. Adonis Creed 5. Clubber Lang 6. Viktor Drago 8. Ricky Conlan 9. Mason Dixon 10. Danny Wheeler 11. Damian Anderson 12. Felix Chavez 13. Tommy Gunn 14. Union Cane 15. Leo Sporino 16. Spider Rico
Damian wins, his style is super unorthodox mixing technical boxing with dirty boxing. He has more tools and very unpredictable. He targets areas of the body that boxers don’t prepare for like the shoulders and arms. Not to mention his movement and defense is far superior to clubbers.
@@jimothyasteward1829 yeah but damian lacks years and years of experience. Regardless of how talented he is, yes he could beat a weaker professional boxer but title contenders? He knew he had to fight dirty in order to secure a victory
@@yanbr3134 he beat a world champ what are you talking about ? fighting dirty is about of the game there’s no excuses in the ring just wins and loses. the elbow was really the only foul play he did everything thing else was completely legal.
Besides the inside knee and the elbow, what did Damien do that was illegal? Although frowned upon, those arm shots were perfectly legal. Hitting the midrib of someone's arm is a cowardice move but it's perfectly legal. It causes your opponent to drop his guard and leaves him open.
The main issue is he already attacked that part of Felix during their sparring, so it was likely wounded/weakened beforehand. It’s very cunning, but not a legitimate boxing technique. And it wouldn’t work in the context of a standard VS battle.
The problem is this, all of the Cree fighters are not super human. But all of the rocky fighters are super easy. None of the three fighters legitimately have any piece that can beat the original one. Except for Ivan Drago son. They keep trying to sell us a story of the next generation surpassing the previous generation, but there are literally no feats to back it up. I love these movies, but the rocky series is always going to be number one.
There's a instagram meme that talk about who would win between Clubber Lang and Damien Anderson? I personally got Dame with the W because unlike Clubber, Dame actually went the distance against a more formidable opponent in Adonis Creed.
Are games really a factor since they’re not canon? Also it’d be interesting to see an analysis of the movie Undisputed and Wesley Snipe’s character Monroe Hutchen against a Rocky character.
Yes for a great future video you should take all the expendables action stars and add them to this conversation could Schwarzenegger beat Mr T and could Jean Claude van damme fight without kicking. That should be your next video
My rule of thumb for movies is that if nothing in the story tells me the age of the character I default to the age of the ACTOR at the time of filming and assume its also the CHARACTER'S age until I am told otherwise. Damien was 36 years old because according to story continuity he was arrested when he was 18 and served 18 years. Mr. T was 30 (born in 1952 and Rocky 3 filmed in 1983). That is about 6 years younger. That is not a HUGE youth advantage but might be significant?
When Apollo and Duke were watching fight film on Clubber, Apollo said that, at the pace that they had to set with Rocky, Rocky had to take Clubber out early or Rocky would be out of gas after 5-6 rounds.
Clubber Lang VS Ivan Drago? Who you got?
Ivan’s stamina I think would win out against Clubber Lang’s power.
Drago would destroy him
Drago pretty much beats everyone besides Rocky imo.
Hmm I have a question... Is there anyone so far in the rocky verse that scales above the Rocky that fought Ivan? Or is that rocky the PEAK in all the movies
@@therealwhoever I’d say Rocky IV Rocky is #1 in the franchise.
Honestly, imagine Damian if he never went to prison…might just be one of the top five or Even three greatest fighters to ever live in the rocky universe.
Exactly Damien lacks boxing experience
I mean I know he's older, but he still has a chance to improve.
Clubber easy. Now image the clubber Lang we know from the movies. And imagine the first time Damien cheap shots clubber. The fight wouldn't even get finished cuz clubber is on his @$$.
@@jovelhamilton601 EXACTLY!!
I deadass believe he’d be the best boxer in the rocky universe ever
Damian’s definitely very talented since how long he’s spent in prison and can now go against professionals and he’s only fought like 2 professional fights
2 said fights being against Heavy Weight Champions right off the bat.
@@ShadowKamehameha32 He cheated in the first fight and fought an out-of-prime and holding back Adonis.
@@CRISIS_COMICS How can a guy be in prison for 18 years come out and fight for the championship of the world without one pro fight under his belt or even being ranked in the top 100? He won amateur bouts as a teenager and never fought a pro fight. Even when Rocky fought Apollo he had dozens of pro fights under his belt even though he wasn't ranked high.
@@terryf3282 Because he manipulated Adonis into giving him that shot. It's in the movie. He knows he can't legitimately become champ so he pulls strings and cheats; it's in the movie.
@@CRISIS_COMICS well he was old so didn’t have time to work his way up, he needed the shot now
"I reject the challenge, because Balboa is no challenge" 😂😂😂
“Im the champion of the world. I can’t be beat. I’m gonna train even harder. I’m gonna torture him. Real bad….” 😂😂😂
i said that in his voice had me dying laughing
@@Maraudore lol nice 😂
"What you say paper champion, Imma beat you like a dog!!" Clubber has always been my favorite.....until Dame.
Apollo who?
I most definitely have to say Clubber...his Hooks were destroying Rocky
That’s all he throws though even spider Rico could drop that bum
@@blankname6629 I mean, we have a real life version in Deonte Wylder. Dude has one damn punch (the overhand right) and has made an entire career off it, despite having less Boxing skills than Rocky at the beginning of the first film.
@@tonyj9743 ironically he's supposed to play clubber's son in Creed 3
Also Clubber was an actual Heavyweight when Damian,Adonis and Felix were Welterweights (Felix being Jose Benavidez Jr the welterweight contender for the WBO Belt)
@@tonyj9743 not true wilder actually has a good jab it’s an underrated punch for him
Clubber lang was a killer in there. He winning that fight
I got clubber too,no contest .
Not much of a contest. For starts Rocky Balboa estabilshed that modern boxers like Damian aren't in the same league as the monsters Rocky tangled with in the 80s. Then you have to factor that Clubber was effectively a stronger and tougher version of the Rocky from I and II, a guy who could take a massive amount of punishment and dish it back ten-fold. Clubber could tank every punch Rocky threw at him and his haymakers left him so beaten Rocky had to train himself to avoid them.
Last and most obvious is age. Clubber is only in his early 20s and in the prime of his life while Damian is almost 40 and in the last year or so of his potential for boxing.
Put simply Clubber would murder Damian.
Honestly Damian is my new favorite character in the rocky/creed franchise could you do Apollo vs Damian next??
It's obviously Apollo we don't even need a video
@@oomshaka6683exactly, we don’t need a video lol, Apollo is the GOAT. Like Rocky said, time beat him.
@PKD Orion Rocky is super strong and physically eclipsed Apollo by far in Rocky IV, so Adonis being > Apollo doesn’t make him super strong by proxy.
Same. I LOVED his fighting style in C3. You don't get to see the cross guard on screen much.
@@axelstone3131Rocky lost their first fight Rocky won the second and in the creed series he stated that Apollo won their 3rd fight behind closed doors lol do you even watch Rocky and creed?
Mr. T was one childhood hero’s ✊🏾🙌🏾
Clubber he actually had more fights against ranked opponents
Loving these rocky and creed versus vids
I’ll keep ‘em coming if you guys still watch them!
@@CRISIS_COMICS If Viktor and Damien got in a boxing match who do you think would win
@nealsmall9316 Viktor because Damien would need to fight the perfect fight, which is not likely to for most fighters even the best.
These two have got to be the Most Hungry for a fight characters in the series. They always seem ready to scrap
That's because Clubber Lang "respected" Damian's mother enough to give her a son. Yes, they are definitely related.
Clubber: "Your mother...there is no other...so treat her right. Treat her right."
Damian All day! He is waaaayy more technical. Plus 99% of his illegal moves were from Jailhouse Rock(Hence the Philly Shell Guard) and 52 Blocks(Hence the Cross Block Guard) which are legit prison martial arts. Clubber may have been brutal, but those prison styles would have thrown him off
Excellent point, he attacked the pressure points of his opponents. Think about how Ip Man defeated Twister the boxer in Ip Man 2. Even Self Defense instructors would tell you to attack the pressure points like the throat or whatnot in street fights. I got Damien in a victory against Clubber myself.
@@empyreanpreeminencemultime6232 clubber did time too
Clubbers should have made an appearance in the movie. Even just an cameo would have been fine.
Clubber Lang literally obliterates Damian, the fighters in creed aside from Drago's son are wasted
Only rickie was cool
I was itching for some more Rocky Creed stuff Leggo
More down the pipeline as long as people are still interested!
W. Glad Clubber is getting the respect he deserves. I can't believe people think he's one of the weakest opponents in the franchise. He's the 3rd strongest behind the Dragos. Yeah Sly said Adonis would beat him in 3 rounds, but that doesn't break his placement above Apollo as Rocky also said Adonis was a better fighter than his father could've ever hoped to be.
@@thareelhelloagain Nope. Apollo had to teach Rocky most of what he knew to face Clubber and it still wasn't a stomp.
@@thareelhelloagain I disagree. Rocky vs Lang 2 might be my favorite fight because of the dodging and counter-attacking Rocky employs and Lang still traps and puts him in danger a few times. His skill comes in cutting off the ring. The Drago fight was big in scale but it was less technical in favor of a back-and-forth slugfest.
CORRECTION: Clubber is the 2nd Strongest not 3rd Stongest. Victor is not stronger than Clubber Lang.
@@Think1stMedia I put Clubber behind Victor mainly due to Stallone confirming Adonis would beat him in 3 rounds yet Victor is arguably superior to Adonis.
@@miragenights801 victories stronger but no superior. We don't agree there. Just like Clubber is stronger than Rocky but not Surperior to him. Viktor doesn't impress me the way Ivan and Clubber did. He is solid, but those guys were monsters.
Clubber always has a puncher’s chance. The guy had monster power and speed; the type Damien likely never faced. Who knows if Damien is durable enough to withstand such force. Plus, it’s no wonder Clubber would tire out early. They’d throw like 100 punches each round. Lol
Clubber is the worst boxer in the whole series. All he throws are right and left hooks
I think lang will destroy him
@@blankname6629 nah
Clubber Lang has the best punching power in the Rocky series. He is the only one to KO Rocky and he made Rocky have to block and duck punches in the second fight. Damien would get smashed by just a few hooks.
@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS wrong it’s drago the guy literally killed a guy in the ring. They even show you measurements that are insane power. You could say rocky dodged punches against clubber only in one round. After that he was back to his let me use my head to block your punch strategy lol
Finally! I was waiting for video like this!
I love how Rocky get a pass for not being 100%. Even though Mick told him he wouldn't last 3 rounds with Clubber earlier in the movie. 😂😂
Honestly I'm glad someone is scaling these characters cuz I swear the rocky franchise is ripe for scaling characters
I think a tier list video would be a good idea! Especially with each movie Version of each characters
S Tier - Ivan Drago, Rocky (IV)
A - Victor Drago, Adonis (C2), Apolo (Prime/End of III), Rocky (III), Clubber Lang
B - Rocky (II), Apolo (II), Apolo (I), Rocky (I)
C - Adonis (+ Fighters in C1), Conlan,
Adonis (C3 trained after retirement), Damian
D - Tommy Gun
E - Mason Dixon
1. The Drago's might be considered stronger than the people they lost to because of the way the mom/wife and country betrayed them and affected their mental state, plus Rocky was barely holding in there until the cut in later rounds.
2. Rocky possibly didn't lie to Adonis saying he was better than Apolo could have hoped to be (I believe in Creed 2), so that puts Clubber slightly below them.
3. Apolo is supposedly the greatest American boxer next to Rocky, and beat Rocky after Clubber's fight, so I think it's safe to say Apolo seriously underestimated Rocky in part I and II, even the second fight he was older and came off of recovering.
4. Hard to say if Adonis and Damian were stronger than Apolo and Rocky in Part 1 and 2, or even if Adonis in III was stronger than he was in Creed I, but Conlan was a champion and Damian was rustier, and technically Conlan only lost after Adonis beat Victor.
5. Tommy Gun and Mason only fought shadows of Rocky where he was old or didn't train, I have no idea where these vs would go if higher, and the same goes for Rocky in these movies since at least in V greatly outclassed Tommy even when he wasn't training, possibly in A or B Tier.
Alternate List (probably according to this video to boost Creed 3 Sales):
S Tier - Ivan Drago, Rocky (IV)
A - Victor Drago, Adonis (C2), Apolo (Prime/End of III), Rocky (III), Clubber Lang
B - Adonis (C3), Damian, Rocky (II), Apolo (II)
C - Apolo (I), Rocky (I), Adonis (C1), Conlan,
D - Tommy Gun
E - Mason Dixon
Damian can taunt and bait Clubber into gassing himself out unless Clubber can control himself.
3 years does not mean past his prime. He was easily keeping up with Viktor Drago after getting a morale boost.
I found your channel through Rocky Balboa vs Adonis Creed video and I enjoyed it! This match up would have been interesting to see! Can't wait until the next video!
Glad you enjoyed!
This video was so well researched man, cheers 🥂 I wonder if they'll have the gall to make a Creed IV
It's already been signed on for a 4th Creed
Good follow up on the rocky vs Adonis vid!
Thanks, Turner!
It's pretty easy to figure out: Clubber tires out super easily while Damian is much smarter. I feel like he'd knock him out even faster than Rocky did.
He’s smart in terms of planning and cheating. Clubber’s not going to let that slide.
He doesn't tire THAT easily. Remember he went through the middle-late rounds in his fights at the start of the movie. I feel a need to emphasize that Rocky during his second fight with Lang was basically an Apollo/Rocky fusion, with footwork and elusiveness comparable to Apollo but maintaining the iron strength and resilience he's always had. Rocky goaded Lang into wasting all of his energy on throwing consecutive flurries for 2 rounds straight, taunting him all the while. Even playing a perfect strategy, his inhuman chin and durability were still needed to weather his blows to begin with. There was a multitude of factors that beat Clubber. It wasn't just Apollo's style, Rocky's baseline power played just as much of a role.
@@miragenights801 yeah i doubt lang took rocky serious in the rematch after he destroyed him the first time
Clubber was a beast!! I'm rolling with him....
Going with Clubber Lang. Great video brother! 🔥
How good is ricky conlan though? He was able to hang out with creed during the beginning of creed lll
This seems ridiculous lmfao Clubber managed to knock ROCKY BALBOA out. Something not even IVAN DRAGO could do. And idc about endurance or skill cuz the version of Rocky that beat him was as good as we had ever seen him in the series. Clubber WINS ALL DAY
That'd be an intense fight but Damian is a Methodical and relentless fighter. With the right training team and a better focus I cant see him being beat.
People keep saying imagine of he didn't go to prison, well you are wrong! Prisons have the BEST boxing programs, mixed with no drugs or alcohol, plus the absolute NEED to be violent and strong at all times, and I speak from experience. There are many men in prison who could and would beat the best champions in the world. Boxing is pushed prison hard, the need to be controlled, not in trouble while in there, and fit to keep training keeps men from acting up, so your wrong.
Now , creed isn't as good as his father or rocky , so him an Lang, I go with Lang one fight one, and maybe creed fight two if there is another.
Do you ever think you will put Rocky against any other boxers outside of the Rocky/Creed Verse? If so I would likely recommend using some characters from the Punch-Out! Franchise, as while some may argue higher scaling at least where Punch-Out! Wii is concerned, I have seen arguments that put these boxers in a similar Wall level tier to the upper crust of the R/C boxers.
Or Chambers or Monroe from Undisputed
The only boxers I'd legitimately put above Rocky in Punch Out are Little Mac and Donkey Kong.
Perhaps against fighters in Hajime no Ippo as well
@@centurionsword2438 HNI would be great to see
When you look at Punch Out, Tyson is the strongest fighter in the series, right? Tyson is very similar to Clubber Lang, while Apolo Creed is similar to Muhammad Ali, and remember that Creed beat Rocky in Rocky 3 and is known as the best American boxer (excluding Rocky).
I could be wrong, but that would place fighters in Rocky III, IV, and Creed II basically higher than anyone else in Punch Out. Yes, Little Mac can beat Tyson with perfect input, but if you put Ai vs Ai, Tyson wins in a few punches.
I was waiting on this comparison. Thanks!
Dame was massacre Clubber... he could actually box and has stamina. Clubber beat Rocky on brute power and mind games, plus the distraction of Mickey.
He hung in there against an Apollo amped Rocky, and fought a blood lusted Ivan for a time; better than anything Damian has done.
Dame would massacre Clubber? AHAHAHAHHAAH
Dame needs cheap shots to win
Clubber... Well everyone was scared of him for a reason.
most people saying Damian would win. were born 2000 or after. they didnt grow up watching rocky. they grew up watching everything after rocky 5 plus creed movies. clubbervwould win
Reporter: What's your predication for the fight?
Clubber Lang: PAIN!
Damian would have to be trained by Union Cane (RockyV) to improve on what he learned in the amateurs and clean up those tactics.
Classic legendary video
Yeah Damian’s not winning this. But I can’t imagine what could’ve happened I’d Damian didn’t get arrested with his skills and potential for his prime .
Did yall catch the call out in creed lll to Leo The Lion from the first creed movie. Guess hes doing pretty good in universe, too bad he was recovering from a recent fight and couldnt fight creed
What about Apollo vs Damian? Who do you thing would win?
Damian is tough but he's too small.
😂😂😂it’s funny cause both him and Adonis are actually bigger than Clubber.
@@ahkenaten522 I think that they look much smaller than Clubber.
You can say that Clubber looks like a heavyweight, while Dame and Adonis are more like middleweights.
@@andreademontis8807 😂😂nigga I watched the movie mr t is small as fuck compared to Adonis and dame just watch the movies don’t go off memory. I thought he was bigger too until I actually seen it
I think Apollo was already on he decline when he fought those fights against Rocky, Apollo was ready to retire though he was still strong he was wasn't at his physical prime anymore. I don't thin Rocky was ever portrayed as an elite great boxer but a fighter not to be underestimated because he had the biggest heart of any Heavyweight, but he wasn't particularly strong, fast or technique wise, simply he would not give up, and will always get up no matter how many times he was brought down. The only fight he took and dive and didn't get back up was against Clubber Lang because he was under trained, cocky and had lost his heart but most importantly he wasn't in that fight he was worry about Micky. A declining Rocky away from his prime about to retire fought an absolute machine in his absolute physical prime in Clubber Lang, much similar to when Rocky first fought Apollo.
Prime Apollo has no feats. Rocky is known as a legendary fighter that fought the world champion twice, was trained by him, and knows everything there is to know about fighting. He also KO’d someone who can hit with 2,150 psi, Newton’s Third means he’d be just as durable too. Rocky haters and Apollo wankers are cringe.
@@CRISIS_COMICS Apollo’s prime has no feats because the movie wasn’t about him but it was stated in the Rocky verse that Apollo has been one of the greatest heavyweights ever and by the time of the first Rocky movie he really had no challenges and was already on the decline. Rocky in all of the fights received much more damage than his opponents but his durability was otherworldly but he dished out some damage too. But his KO’s wins against those great heavyweights were never due to his power or technical prowess it was due to exhaustion on the other boxers. I guess other than heart and durability it was also stamina I guess he had the greatest stamina of them all, and greatest heart and greatest durability. However we’re talking about an fictional character and comic book type of fights. The fact that Rocky wasn’t brain dead by the creed it’s astonishing. The only time Rocky actually used strategy was against Clubber Lang 2, his strategy was to tire him out by getting punched in the face while occasionally doing some damage as well until Lang had no strength to punch anymore much like Ali vs Foreman. Ali never KO Foreman because of his punching power he tired him out by using the rope a dope while getting his body pummeled by Foreman’s punches to his midsection while he snuck out a few punches to his head due to his incredible hand speed. Until Foreman couldn’t even lift up his hands then Ali knocked him out it was very similar what Rocky did to Clubber. And yes Rocky was a legendary fighter there’s no doubt about it he fought the best and beat the best but all of those fighters were better, bigger, stronger, and more technical sound than him, all of them beat the absolute crap out of him much more than what did to them but he exhausted them due to his incredible heart, durability and stamina.
He used strategy against Apollo, getting on the inside and tearing him up rather than getting jabbed, against Clubber; he was able to box and counter Clubber who's stated a perfectly trained fighter. Rocky is super skilled. If he beats the best, than he's better than the best in various capacities.
@CRISIS He has feats, while past his prime he took the superhuman Rocky to 12 rounds in the first movie. He also was stated in universe to be a perfect fighter. Sounds to me like you're a Rocky wanker and an Apollo hater. Everything in universe says he was the best or second best and you are going out of your way to say that's not the case.
Had to wait to watch this video, since I haven't seen Creed 3. Watched Creed 3 and can finally watch this video.
Creed 3 was very cool, and no doubt this video is also cool.
Clubber Lang claps this boy haaaard!
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PAUSE
Where do these video game scenes come from?
So Rocky 3 Rocky >> Clubber Lang, who can hang with a Bloodlusted Ivan Drago….. Interesting
Makes you think 🤔
How can we gauge Clubber's performance against Drago? From the dialogue stills it seems Lang was still on the verge of passing out before Drago's rage kicked in. The manner in which the dialogue is angled sounded more like Clubber was fighting fairly relative with a base Drago before being warded off mid diff and then got absolutely steamrolled once he went bloodlusted. Muddying things further is Drago wasn't rage boosted against Rocky yet was pulverizing him for the majority of their fight only losing at the last possible second by Rocky's instinct-amped willpower. I'd rank it as R4 Rocky >/= Drago > R3 Rocky > Lang. I can honestly see enraged Drago possibly keeping Rocky down.
The fact that Clubber took hits and endured at all is all I need to say for Clubber being > Damian. He also didn't get one shot by enraged Clubber as the dialogue describes a persistent assault.
Also Rocky cut Drago the first time he connected with him and hit/countered Drago all throughout.
Drago's motivation against Rocky in IV would be comparable to bloodlust, he got enraged at his handlers and self-actualized towards the ending fight with Rocky.
Make a tier list of top strongest characters in all rocky, creed saga
I think
ZERO zone 0. Paulie
1.rocky because of rocky 4 rocky
2. Ivan drago
3.prime apollo creed
4.adonis creed
5.viktor drago
6.damian andersln
7.clubber lang
8.ricky conlan
9.felix chavez
10. Tommy gunn
11.danny wheeler
12. Mason dixon
Clubber Lang would win dude beat Rocky and he climbed the professional ranks the proper way
As a fan of both Rocky series and now the Creed series, nice video. I enjoyed your perspective, however I don’t know about that Clubber beating Apollo now. Clubber fought with an almost jealous anger if you will. Apollo was a pure skilled, and seasoned boxing champion. Apollo was a thinker, with not only speed, but power and skill, who moved better than Rocky did when he fought Clubber.
I absolutely LOVE how Apollo transformed Rocky, and it showed his fighting intelligence because he didn't just teach Rocky his Rhythm-and-Power, Stick-and-move MO, he also advised him based upon how Mickey trained Rock to beat HIM.
Clubber Vs. Dame: I got Dame for all the reasons above. Unlike the video guy, I don't think Dame would be actually afraid of Clubber.
Apollo would outbox clubber. Rocky needed and beat clubber with Apollo technical skills and finesse. He's the one that laid the blueprint on how to beat clubber
Of course he outboxes clubber. Apollo was just old already but he was the best in the series.
The funny thing about that Clubber vs Drago fight in Ready Rumble Boxing is if you take Sylvestor's scenario for Clubber becoming a born-again Christian he would have had his reawakening after Drago hospitalized and nearly killed him lol
Was Ricky Womack the inspiration for Jonathan Major's character?
clubber lang was the the # 1 villian out all rocky and adonis opponents it forced rocky to change his style because their is no scenes or clips of clubber making friends with rocky or apollo he makes friends with no one unless I could be wrong !
He wanted to make friends with Adrian haha
4:44 "if he dies.. he dies.
I wanna know, and it may be a dumb question to some but Apollo in his prime Vs Ivan Drago. I feel like Apollo lost mainly because of ring rust and age, younger Apollo was hungrier and had fire and strong reflexes I think he could pull it off, but he'd have to take it seriously, Apollo didn't take Drago serious enough in his fight and it was a reason he lost.
Young Apollo only fought no names and has no feats.
@@CRISIS_COMICS rocky 1 apollo wouldve possibly won against ivan as he faced against a mental amp rocky and didnt take him seriously at first but still came out with more points. Apollo was well past his prime in 4 and it showed by him slipping in the ring. He also was rewatching videos of the first fight with rock saying they cant do and move like that anymore. It was implied it was suicide because of how old he was, but it wouldnt have been out of the ordinary like in rocky 1
Rocky from Rocky 1 is far less skilled and physically capable than he is in IV, so Apollo beating him doesn't prove anything towards Apollo beating Drago. Just because he lost while out of his prime doesn't mean he'd win if he were in his prime, those are mutually exclusive. Rocky was trying to talk Apollo out of fighting Dragon because of his age, Balboa would've rather faced Ivan in Apollo's place because he's younger than Apollo. Feats are also > statements, and the statement was made before Rocky trained in Russian anyway; after the training he'd be > his Rocky 2/3 self based on statements AND feats.
@@CRISIS_COMICS We don't know if he fought no names or not. Keep in mind, Rocky Marciano was undefeated, and he fought guys like Joe Lewis. Granted, Joe Lewis was past his prime when they fought, but still. They still fought each other nonetheless. Plus in the first Rocky movie, we saw Joe Frazier make a cameo in the film if I'm not mistaken. Granted, we never get official confirmation if him and Apollo ever fought before, but it stands reasonable to assume they might've considering Apollo wasn't that much older or younger than Joe, so there's a real possibility they may have fought each other.
It's said in the movie that Apollo was ducking Frazier, they never fought.
Clubber Lang vs Union Kane from Rocky V would be interesting too
Kane was a paper champ
Didn't union cane supposedly beat clubber lang on Lang's comeback tourney for a rocky rematch
I would say Clubber mainly due to Damien's cross guard. That doesn't usually work against hooks and uppercuts, example: Foreman vs Holyfield, Foreman vs Frazier
Yeah but he also utilized the Philly Shell too which is kryptonite to hooks and upper cuts. Look at how easily Mayweather deals with aggressive brawlers. Plus the Philly Shell is an excellent way to initiate the clinch and we already know how Damian is in the clinch
Clubber doesn’t throw uppercuts just hooks
@@blankname6629 I know but my statement is still true
@@Meta_Meech I didnt see him use a Philly shell, I saw cross guard. But again it's a movie lol
@@Warrior519 lol I feel you. I noticed him using the Philly Shell cause I’m also a Philly Shell fighter. Btw, I noticed your a lifter that does martial arts too. Good shit bro, it’s rare to see a fellow martial artist that trains for hypertrophy 💪🏾🥋🥊
Very good content💯
The problem with these comparisons is the Rocky movies didn’t have as accurate depictions of boxing as the Creed movies.
You can make that case for a lot of fiction; most fight scenes can be broken down for their inaccuracies. Yet all the same, the movie versions of Batman and Captain America are understood as master martial artists and >>> irl fighters in skill despite the potential of irl fighters critiquing choreography. In the actual fictional universe of Rocky/Creed, the Rocky era fighters are know as legendary and even held in high regard today by the writers/directors of the Creed movies. Looks can be deceiving.
I maybe would’ve agreed with you but creed III in terms of boxing is definitely the most unrealistic in the entire rocky universe. Still loved the movie but the fights were very anime.
@@DirtyDev anime in the shot style not the actual fighting anime tends to have very realistic fighting since it's based on real martial arts look at Baki it has realistic boxing in it
Maybe boxing sequence part but Creed 3 was most unrealistic movie of all Rocky based movies by far, even Rocky 6. I mean, 1 month preparation after 18 years in prison and he is already the best in the world? Title fight with 0 pro matches? Come on ...
@@maniac4034the whole point was he got lucky? Best in the world technically but he won ONE fight lmao. That’s not all that unrealistic , especially bc he fought dirty and was bigger than the dude he was fighting
Don't forget mr. T had a movie called penitentiary where he was a boxing trainer
I think Clubber wins high difficulty, please do Damian vs Viktor Drago, or Viktor Drago vs Ricky conlan
Victor destroys either guy
@@blankname6629 agreed!!
I want to see a movie about Victor Drago including flashbacks to his upbrining in Russia with his dad. Would also like to see him win the belt. Lot left to explore in the Rockyverse.
Counterpoint: You're pitting a well past his prime, nearly 40 years old, Damian against a prime Clubber. Granted, we've only seen Damian fight before and past his prime, but we can extrapolate certain things. I think it would be fair to assume he would perform as well, if not better, against Donnie circa Creed 2 at the age he'd have been in Creed 2. And based on that, a prime Dame would beat a prime Clubber no sweat
U cant give him stats that he doesnt have
@@johnmallqui8667 We know he was a better boxer than Donnie growing up. We know he kept in shape in prison. We know he was even more past his prime when he fought Adonis than Adonis was. Extrapolating that he'd have a similarly close fight with a prime Adonis while in his prime isn't much of a reach. And we know Adonis in his prime mops the floor with Clubber.
@Adder's Musical Musings I recommend watching rocky vs creed video
@@AdderMoray Damian was barely an adult and Adonis was a child. And Adonis was holding back on Damian in their fight and still won.
@@CRISIS_COMICS same with Dame,
How about a video RANKING THE TRAINERS ?
Clubber hands down!
Clubber would deposit Dame somewhere up on Mars..
To loosely quote Mickey..
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The punch sound effects say Lang would beat him lol
Clubber Lang was not fazed at all by Rocky's full power onslaught in in the first fight.. then had him nearly KOed within a dozen punches at end of round one.
Extreme speed, power and pressure..
Drago would lose if strictly brawling
The lore's great.
What music is in your video? I really like all of it!
They matched in terms of strenght and experience, they both very aggressive, they both lack defense. That said, Damien has more endurance and durability. The match is balanced till 4th round, then clubber starts going down
You are assuming they are equal in strength. Adonis was stated to be better than Apolo, who beat Rocky (III ending) who beat Clubber, but Adonis wasn't at his prime in Creed 3.
They are not matched at all. Clubber fought way more professional fighters and completely obliterated them all. Plus he hits so hard that Rocky had to dodge and block in order to survive: something he didn't even do with Drago (not saying that Clubber hits harder than him obviously, just saying that it was the first time Rocky faced that kind of power) and was consistently knocking his ass to the ground. Not to mention Rocky already established in the Creed series that the newer guys weren't on the same level as far as the fighters from the 80s. Lang was also in his prime while Damian was far past it.
Clubber in 6 or 7? Damians Defense keeps him in the fight for several rounds before being over powered by Clubber Lang.
Clubber Lang and it wouldn't even be close
My Rocky boxer rankings:
1. Rocky Balboa
2. Ivan Drago
3. Apollo Creed
4. Adonis Creed
5. Clubber Lang
6. Viktor Drago
8. Ricky Conlan
9. Mason Dixon
10. Danny Wheeler
11. Damian Anderson
12. Felix Chavez
13. Tommy Gunn
14. Union Cane
15. Leo Sporino
16. Spider Rico
I think Victor would beat clubber lang
Damian wins, his style is super unorthodox mixing technical boxing with dirty boxing. He has more tools and very unpredictable. He targets areas of the body that boxers don’t prepare for like the shoulders and arms. Not to mention his movement and defense is far superior to clubbers.
Clubber would not let it slide, as soon as damian hits his arm or legs, clubber will strike him with infinite hits until he falls
If he does that to clubbers he might bite his ears.
@@yanbr3134 all clubber has is a left hook dude the whole movie that’s literally all he throws he’s a one trick pony that stands no chance.
@@jimothyasteward1829 yeah but damian lacks years and years of experience. Regardless of how talented he is, yes he could beat a weaker professional boxer but title contenders? He knew he had to fight dirty in order to secure a victory
@@yanbr3134 he beat a world champ what are you talking about ? fighting dirty is about of the game there’s no excuses in the ring just wins and loses. the elbow was really the only foul play he did everything thing else was completely legal.
Clubber is not use to going the distance. He is a KO like Drago. Two different boxing styles.
Drago fought like 15 rounds this narrative of lacking stamina is dumb
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there surprising lack of "Mama said knock you out" AMVs of Rocky/Creed.
I guess we'll never know, Damien it's going back to jail lmao 😂
Creed three was a great movie
Did he just call Bernard Hopkins a brawler lol
Besides the inside knee and the elbow, what did Damien do that was illegal? Although frowned upon, those arm shots were perfectly legal. Hitting the midrib of someone's arm is a cowardice move but it's perfectly legal. It causes your opponent to drop his guard and leaves him open.
The main issue is he already attacked that part of Felix during their sparring, so it was likely wounded/weakened beforehand. It’s very cunning, but not a legitimate boxing technique. And it wouldn’t work in the context of a standard VS battle.
The problem is this, all of the Cree fighters are not super human. But all of the rocky fighters are super easy. None of the three fighters legitimately have any piece that can beat the original one. Except for Ivan Drago son. They keep trying to sell us a story of the next generation surpassing the previous generation, but there are literally no feats to back it up. I love these movies, but the rocky series is always going to be number one.
Clubbers weakness was his endurance, we seen Damien go the distance with Donny of all people. Damien wins late
There's a instagram meme that talk about who would win between Clubber Lang and Damien Anderson? I personally got Dame with the W because unlike Clubber, Dame actually went the distance against a more formidable opponent in Adonis Creed.
Are games really a factor since they’re not canon? Also it’d be interesting to see an analysis of the movie Undisputed and Wesley Snipe’s character Monroe Hutchen against a Rocky character.
I hop we see Michael B Jordan Sylvester Stallone and Mr t as clubber lang Return as mentor and one as he’s son In Creed 4 sequel
Yes for a great future video you should take all the expendables action stars and add them to this conversation could Schwarzenegger beat Mr T and could Jean Claude van damme fight without kicking. That should be your next video
I think Damian just based on stamina. Clubber was already winded in round three. If Damian could survive the first few rounds, it’s his.
Easy. Clubber Lang.
Lang wins by a knockout. To strong. Have KO power in both hands.
My rule of thumb for movies is that if nothing in the story tells me the age of the character I default to the age of the ACTOR at the time of filming and assume its also the CHARACTER'S age until I am told otherwise. Damien was 36 years old because according to story continuity he was arrested when he was 18 and served 18 years.
Mr. T was 30 (born in 1952 and Rocky 3 filmed in 1983). That is about 6 years younger. That is not a HUGE youth advantage but might be significant?
Clubber Lang hands down. “…PAIN!!!”
Even at the 100% he would have been at without Mickey's situation, Rocky is gonna lose badly to Clubber.
It’s kinda funny how Clubber Lang and Diamond Dame rhyme
I think you took that stop holding back context too literally
Sorry, it's just that it's said and shown in the film itself. I just make judgements about films based on what's in them.
I can't unsee Jordan Peele as Mr. T anytime I see him
When Apollo and Duke were watching fight film on Clubber, Apollo said that, at the pace that they had to set with Rocky, Rocky had to take Clubber out early or Rocky would be out of gas after 5-6 rounds.
Okay bro... when are we getting a Clubber Lang vs Mike Tyson vid?!