Hey son, I'm extremely terrified, this man and his bomb friend assaulted a dragon nearly 40× his size and killed him in two turns. I think I'm more scared of the thing who saved me than the beast he defeated.
I don't need unique dialogue. The fact that they had unique pathing for Pine T Sr in this room means they actually DID think of this possibility. And, what you witnessed when you saw him take that pathing was programming that I don't think anyone else in the world before you has seen actually get utilized. That's about as equivalent to unique dialogue to me.
Speaking as a programmer, a pathfinding AI of this calibre probably calculates the path needed to go based on where there are obstacles and where there are none. So the path he takes at the end is not something I think the programmers actually put in manualy, but something they made an universal system for so it would work on any floor with an exit pipe
"The... THE TREASURE!! I have NO idea how you survived that but thank you so much!" **opens chest** "What's this...? A badge? I think I've heard myths about this badge! I could probably sell it for hundreds..." "But you know what? I shouldn't take this. You guys got me here, you've earned it completely!" "Besides, my real treasure is waiting for me up above... Let's get out of here!"
Robert Anderson that’s some fitting dialog, it would’ve been interesting if there was a Trouble quest that gave you the option of escorting an NPC down the whole thing, just to get a reaction from them.
It's interesting that they made him hide behind the pillar and shake, and he even goes out on his own afterwards. I wasn't even expecting that much to be honest.
I think it is more likely that the two cutscenes are conflicting, so he is starting to walk towards the pipe, but his pathfinding gets screwed up by Bonetail.
nah if you notice he shakes in fear, and pathfinding is pretty advanced for this kinda game. they gotta manually make the paths for the ai's. bonetail room isnt standard so they had to make a new one
Aarantula can you imagine the story he’d have to tell the others back in Rougeport about getting the clearing the whole pit? Something that’s evidently never been done due to Bonetail being “alive” down there
Well, this game does have some dialog that is impossible to activate without glitches, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had unique dialogs for a low-chance yet possible occurrence
@@lafave2555. In GlitzVille. There's this fight in which you NEED to use the little Yoshi to damage the enemies and there are cutscenes after the battle, but the game includes the dialogs for 3 other partners even though there's no legit way to have them active during that cutscene
@@mouthlesshater but the cutscene itself is only ever supposed to appear during chapter 3. Even then, little yoshi is the ONLY one who can beat them, super guards don’t hurt them.
The funny thing is that I thought I'd have to beat Bonetail to rescue Pine T Sr for the longest time. Now I know that I was by far wrong. And to this day, I'm still trying to beat him! I got to him once, but was so weak that one touch finished my hard work in an instant!
Well there was no reason Pine T Sr. going to the path. He must have been programmed to not make a move as long as the room he was in was not cleared. What's actually surprising is his unique move to the side of the room and the "shaking with fear" animation.
It does seem like they planned for the chance for it to happen, but never really assumed anyone will actually do that. Else he definitely would have just stand there and had worse pathfinding to the final pipe.
@@wiggelxiv4642 was my thought as well too.... till You realize that they probably just did that because they KNEW No matter HOW low the odds were in order for that to happen... they should make it like that so just in case all of the planets were to align like that and a player actually made it to him like that.. there wouldn't be any issues with that toad there, IF he were to have stuck around You vie extreme mover luck. . .
What if you hacked your position, or the collision of Bonetail's corpse or Gloomtail, so you could reach Pine T. Sr. on Floor 100 before he leaves? Then, talk to him?
Im pretty sure there's no dialogue once he reaches a floor with an exit because its a scripted event of him running to the pipe and exiting. Its probably something like Exit Pipe -True >Play dialogue and run to the exit pipe -False >Walk around normally
"Well, I found your dad, and in doing so I even made it to the bottom and defeated a skeleton dragon!" "Oh, and did you find the treasure, too?" "Treasure?"
Since the new remake just came out on the Nintendo Switch, can you might test out taking Pine T. Sr. to Bonetail and the new Boss on when you get a chance to see if there's new dialogue appears?
Yesterday I did pit of 100 trials and I got a mover on floor 70 then i used it to go down 5 levels and i got another movie on 75 so i pretty much skipped the entire thing
Every video like this: "What happens if you do this incredibly rare thing that only has a 1 in 2 million chance of happening? I bet it's something awesome you guys here we go." "Wow nothing happened the nerve of these game designers how could they have overlooked this."
They got this right in the original JP release and fixed it in the remake, but Bonetail is actually a girl. The original US release got that wrong, so we assumed the whole time, Bonetail was a boy.
the same dialogue doesn't surprise me. It is cool that they did program the event though even though no one would ever get this to trigger, but it's cool they still proofed it since while unlikely it was still possible. Despite its rarity though, I think it would have been cool to have had easter egg dialogue though since he was trying to get the pit's treasure.
Not really a unique event or even programmed. This is astounding people for no reason lol. pine t default action is to run away and shake when you're on floors with enemies. Specifically, he tends to run to the left of the screen even if an enemy is in front of him. however since hes (for 99% of players) 1 floor away from exiting with the pipe, no one will generally see this as people just quickly kill the cloud and exit. Thus, upon reaching floor 100, you have an enemy (the boss), and pine T runs to the left and shakes. Pretty standard and generic programming.
@@3DTwinkies I guess that makes sense too, although it's interesting he can move during the cutscene but I guess no logic locks his movement during that event.
That's crazy to think about if the chances are 1 in 2.3 million assuming there was enough materials on earth and Nintendo managed to sell 100 million copies in this hypothetical scenario ten people would have experienced this and probably not even think it was special at all but sadly in reality paper Mario ttyd door only sold a million copies :(
I'd wager power bounce, multi bounce, defense up badges and a truck load of power rush badges. Possibly spike and fire shields to counter enemy protection Basically the "I don't feel like trying" setup.
Nothing to add here, just apprechiating Developer Foresight. Also whoever gets this event legit should go and demand 3 Lucky Days from Lunky the Bomb Omb now.
Ah, another pointless fact that resulted in nothing useful. Another job well done. Seriously tho, nice .3.b Honestly love little tidbits in Paper Mario, even if it doesn't amount to much.
I've always tried to grasp for the joke that the badge Return Postage is where it is I've never had a good answer. Best joke is that it's a hell of a trip for the mailman
Nintendo could’ve hidden some ultimate secret dialogue at the end if anyone somehow managed to do this without cheats... But they didn’t. They could have, but they didn’t. What a waste indeed
You actually could just do this in a normal run. Do the trouble and simultaneously plan to go to the bottom. Not tooo crazy an idea except people doing the trouble likely are going to do it quick and leave the pit.
The unique pathing and a quiver in fear animation not enough for you? a 1 in 2 million+ chance of it happening normally, and you expect the devs to put the effort of unique dialog in? it is satisfying enough to see that it was thought of at all. i still need to sit down and complete the pit... my younger brother has done it, and ive gotten close (80+), but it is such an ordeal to do normally... how much danger strat prep would i want to do before, and is it really that reliable when piercing damage is a potential threat? Not to mention im highly suspicious of that 5fp cap of yours, but cheating was needed to get anywhere near possible, so who cares.
That why that paper mario is more bad comapred to the 64 version seriously the dev team who put 99 badge and make to spam all the same badge like power rush and can use many time we like seriously that why that paper mario js the worst that the worst
Hey son, I'm extremely terrified, this man and his bomb friend assaulted a dragon nearly 40× his size and killed him in two turns. I think I'm more scared of the thing who saved me than the beast he defeated.
Who Wants a Star Allies Sequel
@@tjzswagger4755 go away
Why I’m just asking
I love how aggressive this is
@@Goomatora
...Your profile picture.
Pine T being locked in bonetails moldy prison 2 miles below the planets crust after mario fucks up his guard action command
Yoshi Kid: We're trying to dig to the center of the earth😐 (If you get the reference)
"YAY! You came to save me!"
"Uh... Yeah... Mind if we kill a legendary dragon skeleton really quick?"
"Meh, sure. I'll just wait over here"
I don't need unique dialogue. The fact that they had unique pathing for Pine T Sr in this room means they actually DID think of this possibility. And, what you witnessed when you saw him take that pathing was programming that I don't think anyone else in the world before you has seen actually get utilized. That's about as equivalent to unique dialogue to me.
The programmers simply used a code for that tho.
@@jpvazquezr2009 They still had to put the specific move-to point(s).
not to mention the fact that they programmed him to quiver in fear.
@@DeltaFrazzle He might do that on every floor.
Speaking as a programmer, a pathfinding AI of this calibre probably calculates the path needed to go based on where there are obstacles and where there are none. So the path he takes at the end is not something I think the programmers actually put in manualy, but something they made an universal system for so it would work on any floor with an exit pipe
"The... THE TREASURE!! I have NO idea how you survived that but thank you so much!"
**opens chest**
"What's this...? A badge? I think I've heard myths about this badge! I could probably sell it for hundreds..."
"But you know what? I shouldn't take this. You guys got me here, you've earned it completely!"
"Besides, my real treasure is waiting for me up above... Let's get out of here!"
Robert Anderson that’s some fitting dialog, it would’ve been interesting if there was a Trouble quest that gave you the option of escorting an NPC down the whole thing, just to get a reaction from them.
It’s perfect!
It's interesting that they made him hide behind the pillar and shake, and he even goes out
on his own afterwards.
I wasn't even expecting that much to be honest.
they probably just added in something for hooktail just in case, to make the game stable.
I'm guessing they thought about it being done but not how unlikely it was lol
I think it is more likely that the two cutscenes are conflicting, so he is starting to walk towards the pipe, but his pathfinding gets screwed up by Bonetail.
nah if you notice he shakes in fear, and pathfinding is pretty advanced for this kinda game. they gotta manually make the paths for the ai's. bonetail room isnt standard so they had to make a new one
I just realized the enemies in the crowd are cheering for your opponent
PROPLAYEN THX FOR THIS INFO
i'm more impressed they made him run behind the pillar and shake when he's not supposed to be here
Maybe the quest was reworked at some point or a tester said to just let him force a return in the return pipes
Pine T. Sr doesn't even grab Return Postage? Wow what a lame-o.
Aarantula can you imagine the story he’d have to tell the others back in Rougeport about getting the clearing the whole pit? Something that’s evidently never been done due to Bonetail being “alive” down there
Can’t say I’m mad because of the ridiculously low chances this could even occur. But it would’ve been cool.
Well, this game does have some dialog that is impossible to activate without glitches, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had unique dialogs for a low-chance yet possible occurrence
@@ddnava96 What dialog are you talking about?
@@lafave2555. In GlitzVille. There's this fight in which you NEED to use the little Yoshi to damage the enemies and there are cutscenes after the battle, but the game includes the dialogs for 3 other partners even though there's no legit way to have them active during that cutscene
dd nava You can go back to Glitzville again.
@@mouthlesshater but the cutscene itself is only ever supposed to appear during chapter 3. Even then, little yoshi is the ONLY one who can beat them, super guards don’t hurt them.
Thank you for you contribution to the paper mario community
Dude i love the paper mario community
@Tommy Howell ?
I love that the Mover tells Mario to close his eyes, and then the screen starts wobbling
What kind of eyelids does he HAVE
The funny thing is that I thought I'd have to beat Bonetail to rescue Pine T Sr for the longest time. Now I know that I was by far wrong. And to this day, I'm still trying to beat him! I got to him once, but was so weak that one touch finished my hard work in an instant!
@yoshiwoollyworld I was talking about before I even tried it. Also damn, can't believe it took me until the day before yesterday to beat Boney
Didn't expect new dialogue but was curious on which would take priority:
Bonetail's cutscene or Pine T. Sr. going to the pipe.
Well there was no reason Pine T Sr. going to the path. He must have been programmed to not make a move as long as the room he was in was not cleared. What's actually surprising is his unique move to the side of the room and the "shaking with fear" animation.
I was expecting a crash or softlock, yes.
I’m pleasantly surprised that the normal things still happen even in this absurd corner case.
For once
i like how they added the touch of pine t.'s dad hiding behind a column before the fight starts
Seeing you beat Bonetail in 2 turns makes me feel ashamed of myself 😥
Bonetail was one of the longest battles that I've ever done in an RPG.
To be fair, he was using Power Rush. And Power Rush is broken.
with enough power rushes you can just straight up one cycle everything 😭
To be honest, I expected nothing, but he did go shiver in the corner lol.
The fact that he HAS PATHING for Bonetail’s room is astonishing to me
3:46 Ha! He's cowering behind the pillar! Oh, that's freaking hilarious.
[Pine T. Sr. sucks]
Well that's rude, what did he do to you?
I’ve actually been wondering about this. Thanks for making this
I mean, I knew the answer would be nothing, but I watched it anyways gg
*OK. Let's go.*
I REALLY like your editing style. Goodjob.
I never new I needed an answer to a question so badly
4:41 my reward for clean up all my house
If only we could talk to him/better see how he paths around on floor 100. Looks like he just runs to the left and freezes.
It does seem like they planned for the chance for it to happen, but never really assumed anyone will actually do that.
Else he definitely would have just stand there and had worse pathfinding to the final pipe.
@@Manavine Maybe the Quest was planned to include escorting him to the end.
@@wiggelxiv4642 ...you know that ain't true. That's just stupid
@@wiggelxiv4642 was my thought as well too.... till You realize that they probably just did that because they KNEW No matter HOW low the odds were in order for that to happen... they should make it like that so just in case all of the planets were to align like that and a player actually made it to him like that.. there wouldn't be any issues with that toad there, IF he were to have stuck around You vie extreme mover luck. . .
No messages.[English]
There was no need for extra dialogue, the animation itself was enough
Thank you!
I've always wondered this ever since I finished that quest.
Anybody else feel agitated that he didn't even take the treasure at the end?
Nah, Pine T Sr. couldn't fight all the way to Floor 100 and possibly believe they earned it, he would had died regardless.
He used Danger Strats. It's not earned.
@@DarkLink1996. Well also return postage is garbage. Especially when using danger strats
Pine T. Wanted to go down to the bottom of the dungeon, and he did
I’m surprised Nintendo even had ANY dialogue show up if Pine T Sr was there when/if you beat Bonetail.
What if you hacked your position, or the collision of Bonetail's corpse or Gloomtail, so you could reach Pine T. Sr. on Floor 100 before he leaves? Then, talk to him?
Im pretty sure there's no dialogue once he reaches a floor with an exit because its a scripted event of him running to the pipe and exiting.
Its probably something like
Exit Pipe
-True
>Play dialogue and run to the exit pipe
-False
>Walk around normally
@@GamingEelektross props to the devs for the game handling him going to somewhere he was never intended to reach though.
@@TheUltimateRare It was probably never tested, its just the game telling him to go to the exit pipe, nothing more.
"No messages.[English]"
"Well, I found your dad, and in doing so I even made it to the bottom and defeated a skeleton dragon!"
"Oh, and did you find the treasure, too?"
"Treasure?"
Since the new remake just came out on the Nintendo Switch, can you might test out taking Pine T. Sr. to Bonetail and the new Boss on when you get a chance to see if there's new dialogue appears?
Oh my gosh in all my years I never thought of continuing down the pit with the toad lol
Yesterday I did pit of 100 trials and I got a mover on floor 70 then i used it to go down 5 levels and i got another movie on 75 so i pretty much skipped the entire thing
I love this game so much. :)
Every video like this:
"What happens if you do this incredibly rare thing that only has a 1 in 2 million chance of happening? I bet it's something awesome you guys here we go."
"Wow nothing happened the nerve of these game designers how could they have overlooked this."
I don't think the video maker was actually expecting anything. And they weren't that harsh about it.
@@IronicHavoc 5:52
You didn't even open the reward chest for clearing the Pit. Feelsbadman.
You didn’t get the chest? Ouch!
HONESTLY I'm surprised they thought about people doing this and added special dialogue for it.
Weirdly enough my first pit I brought pine t along decided to get two things done at once
I did that with the Trouble where you have to blow up the graffiti on Floor 50.
@@robertanderson9447 Yeah I did that too
Nothing like doing the pit, then being told to go back to floor 20
For the dialogue that you put a cross the bottom of your screen I could only read exactly half of it I had to put the video to 0.5 speed
The documentation was greatly appretiated
So, its actually possible. But is it likely that it'll ever happen? Hell no
Floor 69.... niiiiccceee.
Strongest boss
one dislike is the kid who is missing his dad
The other one is his wife
Lol
2:28 *nice* .
Your not... oh yes he is. Looks like someone's got the danger mario setup.
Wow! I never knew that was possible.
That at the end was a luigi thing
It’s not a waste if you did it for science
They got this right in the original JP release and fixed it in the remake, but Bonetail is actually a girl. The original US release got that wrong, so we assumed the whole time, Bonetail was a boy.
the same dialogue doesn't surprise me. It is cool that they did program the event though even though no one would ever get this to trigger, but it's cool they still proofed it since while unlikely it was still possible. Despite its rarity though, I think it would have been cool to have had easter egg dialogue though since he was trying to get the pit's treasure.
Not really a unique event or even programmed. This is astounding people for no reason lol. pine t default action is to run away and shake when you're on floors with enemies. Specifically, he tends to run to the left of the screen even if an enemy is in front of him.
however since hes (for 99% of players) 1 floor away from exiting with the pipe, no one will generally see this as people just quickly kill the cloud and exit.
Thus, upon reaching floor 100, you have an enemy (the boss), and pine T runs to the left and shakes. Pretty standard and generic programming.
@@3DTwinkies I guess that makes sense too, although it's interesting he can move during the cutscene but I guess no logic locks his movement during that event.
How about a mover on floor 99?
What would happen
Me after the first fight in this video: HEAL UR MARIO!!!
Then u realize hes at full hp 🤣
Can you do this in the remake?
You think of everything don't you?
Not much, apparently.
Yeah, but that first Power Bounce RNG, tho.
5 bounces is the usual, I think
You forgot the badge
That's crazy to think about if the chances are 1 in 2.3 million assuming there was enough materials on earth and Nintendo managed to sell 100 million copies in this hypothetical scenario ten people would have experienced this and probably not even think it was special at all but sadly in reality paper Mario ttyd door only sold a million copies :(
I've always wondered this....
"Floor 69"
heh heh heh...
That is pretty cool are there anymore weird things like this
What’s your badge load out?
I'd wager power bounce, multi bounce, defense up badges and a truck load of power rush badges. Possibly spike and fire shields to counter enemy protection
Basically the "I don't feel like trying" setup.
Nothing to add here,
just apprechiating Developer Foresight.
Also whoever gets this event legit should go and demand 3 Lucky Days from Lunky the Bomb Omb now.
Never mind the dialog; you equipped HOW MANY power rushes?!? Also you didn’t collect the badge :U …
Dream saw this before he cheated
Nice
Why did you skip over the badge- Nah, I get it.
Ah, another pointless fact that resulted in nothing useful.
Another job well done.
Seriously tho, nice .3.b
Honestly love little tidbits in Paper Mario, even if it doesn't amount to much.
you left without the chest...
OmegaChase1002 the treasure was watching how Pine T Sr reacted. None of us need more.
@@duderino6171 you're right
Wow that is crazy
oh
You forgot return postage! Go back in there and get it! /joke
I've always tried to grasp for the joke that the badge Return Postage is where it is
I've never had a good answer. Best joke is that it's a hell of a trip for the mailman
Nintendo could’ve hidden some ultimate secret dialogue at the end if anyone somehow managed to do this without cheats...
But they didn’t. They could have, but they didn’t. What a waste indeed
Why would they take the time to make dialogue for something with a one in 4 trillion chance of happening
@@xian2themax Why wouldn't they? People make things entirely to inconvenience others or harm others for fun.
what badges do you have on and where did you get them??? i’m literally stuck fighting bonetail and going through the pit it’s exhausting
You actually could just do this in a normal run. Do the trouble and simultaneously plan to go to the bottom. Not tooo crazy an idea except people doing the trouble likely are going to do it quick and leave the pit.
No bc the toad leaves as soon as you get to a floor with an exit pipe
how does danger mario do so much damage
The unique pathing and a quiver in fear animation not enough for you? a 1 in 2 million+ chance of it happening normally, and you expect the devs to put the effort of unique dialog in? it is satisfying enough to see that it was thought of at all.
i still need to sit down and complete the pit... my younger brother has done it, and ive gotten close (80+), but it is such an ordeal to do normally... how much danger strat prep would i want to do before, and is it really that reliable when piercing damage is a potential threat? Not to mention im highly suspicious of that 5fp cap of yours, but cheating was needed to get anywhere near possible, so who cares.
Remake is 0/10, you can't do this anymore.
That why that paper mario is more bad comapred to the 64 version seriously the dev team who put 99 badge and make to spam all the same badge like power rush and can use many time we like seriously that why that paper mario js the worst that the worst
Nothing. Nothing happens other than the same basic code for all floors. Don't waste your time.