Yesssss the TOUR!! It’s got everything you need 😍 and I love the ability to move it remotely! Congrats, can’t wait to see more trailer deets and adventure vlogs!!
So glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching! If you think this is cool, check out our channel at 9AM eastern tomorrow morning! We've got a new video coming out that I think you'll like! ;)
Great video! My wife and I are fellow vegans and have our R-1713 on order. We pick up in August 2023 and can't wait! We love following along on your journey.
Thank you for this. Im now in a position to work remotely and Im wanting to snowbird from the PNW to the southwest. I am narrowed down to the T@B 400 and the Airstream Basecamp 20 (egad) This was my introduction to the Safari Condo line. I love this! Im 6'5" and I was excited about the height. but I think that greenhouse effect is going to be a deal breaker. Not to mention there is likely going to be some serious human origami going on to use that poo shed. Ive noticed the T@B has the dumper set at an angle. But I gotta try all these on for size yet. But my biggest criticism is that for someone just encountering this brand, it is incredibly difficult to find any (passive - i.e. not picking up the phone and whatnot) information about dealers and servicing in the US. Thanks for the detailed information
Did you ever get it off pavement? How does it do on forest service roads or washboard roads? I'd be worried any flex would cause the windows to crack or the pop-up mechanism to get misaligned. I realize its not a true rugged off road trailer like some, but it would be nice to know if you can drag it down a dirt road or something with some washboard as long as you drove carefully.
We spent about half our time camping in our r1723 on national Forest roads and similar free camping land in the Pacific Northwest. Like you said, it's not a true rugged off-road trailer, but we were blown away by its durability. We spend the majority of our time boondocking which takes us down some pretty inhospitable roads and we've never had an issue. For what it's worth, we belong to some online communities with hundreds of other Alto owners and I've never heard of a window breaking on dirt or gravel roads. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and let us know if you have any other questions.
I am the kind of guy who will say I hate hitech and to me this is hitec. So, why do I want one? This trailer is so awesome, it has changed me. I can see trouble with most technology. I like things simple. I can see why they have a two year waiting list.
Thanks so much for watching! Yes, we use the inside shower all the time, but we live out of the trailer and do a lot of boondocking and dry camping in places where there are not showers available, so it is a no-brainer option for us. Getting an indoor shower or not really depends on the kind of camping you like to do. If you plan to exclusively stay at campgrounds with full hookups and that offers shower facilities, it may not make sense for you. That said, the shower option as a very minimal impact on the interior square footage of the trailer, having the ability to close the door to the bathroom and draw the curtain is really nice when you're using the toilet (something you're not able to do with the 1713), and having an indoor shower really helps the resale value of the trailer in case your plans ever change or you want to upgrade to a different trailer in the future. Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any other questions.
How long does one propane tank last? Is it only for the sink and shower? How long does it take for the water in the shower heat up? How many showers - or minutes of showers - does the fresh water tank provide? Great video, thank you!
You can get a single propane tank or two like we have. The propane is used for cabin and water heating. Depending on the water heater you buy, you can also use electricity if you have electrical hookups to heat both of those things. Propane is also used for the gas burners in the kitchen. Safari condo sells a instant hot water heater that uses propane and provides unlimited hot water instantly. The model we have takes about 20 to 30 minutes (depending on the groundwater temperature) to heat 3 gallons of water to 140°. When mixed with cold water to reach the desired temperature, that's enough to give both of us a short shower. How long showers can last depend on the flow rate of water. I barely open up the water valve so it comes out very slowly and I can take longer showers. If you open the valve all the way for higher pressure, your hot water will only last a few minutes. Taking short showers, we find that each of us can do 2 to 3 short showers (four to six total) until the gray tank is full. Hope that helps. We're so glad you liked the video!
Hi, thanks for your great tour. I've come across multiple videos touring R1713 or R1723, but none of them showed the RV connector to hookup with your car. Can you show us the real connector from RV side? I see from user manual it says 7-way, but I don't know how it looks like. thanks
Here is an image I found that demonstrates what the female side of the 7-way connector looks like. Hope this helps and thanks for watching. turn5.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/U3476?$prodpg640x480$
That's a cool little camper. It's hard to tell from the video...are those actual glass windows along the top, or just screens? Is there blinds for the windows (especially that big one...). Can you use the camper when the top is closed/down?
Thanks for watching. They are glass windows along the top and they have excellent custom blackout curtains that run along tracks near the ceiling. Yes you can use every feature of the trailer with the roof down. The bed is much smaller in that configuration, but you could probably still sleep two, sideways.
Hi: I am considering this camper but have two questions if you can help out: 1) this is regular toilet with black water. How can you deal with at a regular campground? 2) is there a 4 or 7-Pin cable connector for brake and signal lights? Is there an option for adding electrical brakes? Thanks a lot, Joe
Hey Joe. Thanks for watching. Yes, this trailer has a regular flush toilet with a 12 gallon black tank (and a 12 gallon gray tank). It has a standard RV dump valve so you can connect a hose to sewage hookups at your campsite. This trailer has a 7-pin cable and electric brakes are installed on all Alto trailers by default. If you do not have a wired brake controller installed in your tow vehicle, Safari condo can install a wireless brake controller on the trailer. Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions and good luck with your research.
@@JustinandJess wow that is quick response I really appreciate. I wish they offer an option for cassette toilet or composting toilet. Thanks again! Best wishes
@@JustinandJess oops, forgot one more question. Do usual campgrounds in US national parks allow this camper? Or you have to go RV sites? Thanks again. Joe
@@joeextraknow2854 any campgrounds that allow RVs will let the R1723 in. That being said, make sure your campground allows them before taking your rig. I am aware of other Alto owners that we're allowed to bring their trailers to tent-only sites (with permission) because they have caravan movers which allow them to easily turn them into tight spots that other trailers otherwise would not be able to fit into.
In this video, we were towing with a 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid. We've since upgraded and now tow with 2019 Highlander Hybrid. They are excellent SUVs!
Great video . . . informative and entertaining! After what has seemed an interminable waiting period, we're finally ready to take delivery of our Alto R1713. We leave for Quebec (from California) next week! Quick question for you two: As we cross the border back into the U.S.A. will we encounter any kind of import duty?
Hey James. Glad you enjoyed the video and that's exciting news about your pickup date! Regarding your question, the short answer is "No, you should not encounter any kind of import duty". I can't answer from personal experience as we picked up our pre-owned Alto in the U.S., however I just asked others in the 'Alto Owners' Facebook group and received the following reply... "Safari Condo will give you the needed paperwork to import your trailer into the USA. You will spend some time at the border processing the paperwork. All fees are [payed as part of] your purchase price, except registration in your home state." Another Alto owner suggested that "Camp trailers (new and used) and parts thereof can be imported to the USA duty free". Please keep in mind that your results may vary as government processes are subject to change (for example, another owner told us that it took them less than 5 minutes at the border). Unrelated, please be sure to apply for the 'Alto Owners' Facebook group once you take possession (the group admins will request specific documentation in order to prove ownership) as it's a tremendous resources. In the meantime, I also suggest you proactively join the 'Altoistes' Facebook group (open to everyone). I have seen plenty of fledgling owners ask important questions during their maiden voyage home after taking delivery at the dealership. Please don't hesitate to ask us any other questions. Good luck on your pickup next week and be sure to subscribe to our channel to be notified of upcoming videos! Take care.
@@JustinandJess Oh my gosh, that's such a lot of good information! Many, many thanks. We'll be camping in the Pacific Northwest very soon (with family in Hood River Valley, Oregon) so we look forward to someday passing you on the trail.
Happy to help! Have fun hiking in Oregon. Also while I'm thinking about it, please be sure to ask your salesperson about border crossing procedure (I'm guessing they're already prepared to discuss it with you in detail. They will surely have the latest, up-to-date info you need. I take it you purchased from Get-Away RV?
@@JustinandJess We'll be talking to our sales rep soon about the border crossing question. Your reply comports with that of another Alto and UA-cam couple (check out "A Life More Light") so I think we'll be fine. We purchased our trailer direct from the Safari Condo folks in Quebec, so next week we embark on an epic road trip (some 3,100 miles) to pick it up.
@@jamesmillefolie4448 WOW that will be an epic roadtrip! And to the mothership, no less. Do you mind if I ask who your sales rep is? Also, in case this happens to be your first time towing, I'd like to suggest reading our guide highlighting 14 things that no one told us as new towers. It covers some uncommon use-cases and accessories. As always, we're here if you have any specific questions. uprootedtraveler.com/blog/2021/3/7/towing-a-travel-trailer-for-the-first-time-things-you-need-to-know-that-no-one-told-me
Nice video. The Alto is the one my wife and I would love to buy as it can fit in our garage. Where did you get it? Are there dealers in the USA? Thanks for sharing
It's got customer blackout curtains that you can close at any time, but we typically camp in secluded areas and we prefer to keep them open till we go to bed.
We purchased ours to used from a couple in Louisiana. You can also go to Safari condos dealership and Quebec, Can-Am RV Center in London, Ontario were the newest dealership, Four Corners RV in Durango, Colorado.
Hey Cliff. Sorry for the confusion. It's a standard 120v AC microwave that's connected to our trailer's battery via a 2000W inverter. This setup allows us to use the microwave without electrical hookups. Thanks for watching!
@@cliffwendy3765 have fun out there! I'll be de-winterizing and putting new tires on our trailer this weekend. Not as fun as boondocking, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do :).
Our model has a trumicombi space/water heater that uses one device to both heat the air and water, using either propane or electricity. We also have the optional air conditioner / heat pump. So technically our trailer technically has two heaters.
The Alto R1723's dry weight (before optional add-ons) is 1867 lbs. If you're asking how much cargo weight can be loaded in the trailer, unfortunately I do not have that answer. But I'm sure a call to the sales team at Safari Condo would get you that answer. Thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any other questions
Yesssss the TOUR!! It’s got everything you need 😍 and I love the ability to move it remotely! Congrats, can’t wait to see more trailer deets and adventure vlogs!!
Thank you so much for watching!
Very inviting video for the RV , newbies should definitely watch this .
Thanks for vouchingfor us, Derek! 😊
This is exactly what I have been looking for and didn’t know existed! Thanks for the tour🙏
So glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching! If you think this is cool, check out our channel at 9AM eastern tomorrow morning! We've got a new video coming out that I think you'll like! ;)
Love watching your adventures!!!
We're so glad to hear it! We love sharing them with you. 😊
What a unique camper! I’ve never heard of it before but I love it!
Thanks for watching, Becca and Matt! We're glad we could introduce you to this super cool teardrop 😎. See you down the road!
Love this! Nice job 😊
Thanks for watching, Linda!
Great video! My wife and I are fellow vegans and have our R-1713 on order. We pick up in August 2023 and can't wait! We love following along on your journey.
That's very exciting! Thanks so much for watching. We look forward to creating more videos for you.
I, really like the look of this Alto!🤞✨ Sisntveven know that this was out there!🤞 The glass Windsor’s around are awesome!
We couldn't agree more! Those windows create such a unique and beautiful camping experience. Thanks for watching.
We’re getting ours in the spring and we absolutely can’t wait! Your videos & blog have been incredibly helpful!
That's awesome! Your comment made our day 😊
- J&J
How do you buy this trailer
@@royalbroman9467 we got ours second hand spur of the moment. They’d only had it days before we were lucky enough to get it
Great video guys thank you very much
You are very welcome! Thanks for the kind words 😊
This is so great! Congrats on the first video guys :D
Thanks so much for watching, Nathan! :D
The dogs are too cute! thanks for the tour!
Thanks for watching!!
Thank you for this. Im now in a position to work remotely and Im wanting to snowbird from the PNW to the southwest. I am narrowed down to the T@B 400 and the Airstream Basecamp 20 (egad)
This was my introduction to the Safari Condo line. I love this! Im 6'5" and I was excited about the height. but I think that greenhouse effect is going to be a deal breaker. Not to mention there is likely going to be some serious human origami going on to use that poo shed. Ive noticed the T@B has the dumper set at an angle. But I gotta try all these on for size yet. But my biggest criticism is that for someone just encountering this brand, it is incredibly difficult to find any (passive - i.e. not picking up the phone and whatnot) information about dealers and servicing in the US.
Thanks for the detailed information
Glad you found the information helpful. Thanks for watching and good luck with your search.
Great video!
Did you ever get it off pavement? How does it do on forest service roads or washboard roads? I'd be worried any flex would cause the windows to crack or the pop-up mechanism to get misaligned. I realize its not a true rugged off road trailer like some, but it would be nice to know if you can drag it down a dirt road or something with some washboard as long as you drove carefully.
We spent about half our time camping in our r1723 on national Forest roads and similar free camping land in the Pacific Northwest. Like you said, it's not a true rugged off-road trailer, but we were blown away by its durability. We spend the majority of our time boondocking which takes us down some pretty inhospitable roads and we've never had an issue.
For what it's worth, we belong to some online communities with hundreds of other Alto owners and I've never heard of a window breaking on dirt or gravel roads.
Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and let us know if you have any other questions.
I am the kind of guy who will say I hate hitech and to me this is hitec. So, why do I want one? This trailer is so awesome, it has changed me. I can see trouble with most technology. I like things simple. I can see why they have a two year waiting list.
This trailer is so awesome! Thanks for watching.
Great tour, love watching your video...I was wondering if you use the inside shower often! I'm considering the R1713 or R1723, still not sure?
Thanks so much for watching! Yes, we use the inside shower all the time, but we live out of the trailer and do a lot of boondocking and dry camping in places where there are not showers available, so it is a no-brainer option for us. Getting an indoor shower or not really depends on the kind of camping you like to do. If you plan to exclusively stay at campgrounds with full hookups and that offers shower facilities, it may not make sense for you. That said, the shower option as a very minimal impact on the interior square footage of the trailer, having the ability to close the door to the bathroom and draw the curtain is really nice when you're using the toilet (something you're not able to do with the 1713), and having an indoor shower really helps the resale value of the trailer in case your plans ever change or you want to upgrade to a different trailer in the future.
Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any other questions.
How long does one propane tank last? Is it only for the sink and shower? How long does it take for the water in the shower heat up? How many showers - or minutes of showers - does the fresh water tank provide? Great video, thank you!
You can get a single propane tank or two like we have. The propane is used for cabin and water heating. Depending on the water heater you buy, you can also use electricity if you have electrical hookups to heat both of those things. Propane is also used for the gas burners in the kitchen.
Safari condo sells a instant hot water heater that uses propane and provides unlimited hot water instantly. The model we have takes about 20 to 30 minutes (depending on the groundwater temperature) to heat 3 gallons of water to 140°. When mixed with cold water to reach the desired temperature, that's enough to give both of us a short shower.
How long showers can last depend on the flow rate of water. I barely open up the water valve so it comes out very slowly and I can take longer showers. If you open the valve all the way for higher pressure, your hot water will only last a few minutes.
Taking short showers, we find that each of us can do 2 to 3 short showers (four to six total) until the gray tank is full.
Hope that helps. We're so glad you liked the video!
Well done. I own one as well as use it year round.
Very cool! Do you stay around certain areas, or adventure to new regions each year?
I am traveling all around the western states. California to Texas. It's been the perfect trailer that serves as my home and art studio.
How and where do you buy this trailer
Justin... If your Grandfather Hall was alive, he would love your trailer! 🥰
I bet he would!
Hi, thanks for your great tour. I've come across multiple videos touring R1713 or R1723, but none of them showed the RV connector to hookup with your car. Can you show us the real connector from RV side? I see from user manual it says 7-way, but I don't know how it looks like. thanks
Here is an image I found that demonstrates what the female side of the 7-way connector looks like. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
turn5.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/U3476?$prodpg640x480$
Love the Alto, but worried about my back. I need a comfortable seating solution to work remotely from the RV.
Suggestions??
That's a cool little camper. It's hard to tell from the video...are those actual glass windows along the top, or just screens? Is there blinds for the windows (especially that big one...). Can you use the camper when the top is closed/down?
Thanks for watching. They are glass windows along the top and they have excellent custom blackout curtains that run along tracks near the ceiling.
Yes you can use every feature of the trailer with the roof down. The bed is much smaller in that configuration, but you could probably still sleep two, sideways.
@@JustinandJess Great! Thanks!
Justin, pretty good Video, keep up the good work...Love it, I don't know your unit # but mine is #297 "R-1713"...;-)
Thanks for watching, René! We're so happy to hear you liked it. #297!?! You've been in that Alto for a long time!
"Riggie Smalls" is #1803 :)
Where do they sell and make these campers..i live in central Minnesota and i really like this camper
They make them in Quebec and sell them in Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, and recently a new dealer in Colorado. Thanks for watching!
Hi: I am considering this camper but have two questions if you can help out: 1) this is regular toilet with black water. How can you deal with at a regular campground? 2) is there a 4 or 7-Pin cable connector for brake and signal lights? Is there an option for adding electrical brakes? Thanks a lot, Joe
Hey Joe. Thanks for watching.
Yes, this trailer has a regular flush toilet with a 12 gallon black tank (and a 12 gallon gray tank). It has a standard RV dump valve so you can connect a hose to sewage hookups at your campsite.
This trailer has a 7-pin cable and electric brakes are installed on all Alto trailers by default. If you do not have a wired brake controller installed in your tow vehicle, Safari condo can install a wireless brake controller on the trailer.
Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions and good luck with your research.
@@JustinandJess wow that is quick response I really appreciate. I wish they offer an option for cassette toilet or composting toilet. Thanks again! Best wishes
@@JustinandJess oops, forgot one more question. Do usual campgrounds in US national parks allow this camper? Or you have to go RV sites? Thanks again. Joe
@@joeextraknow2854 any campgrounds that allow RVs will let the R1723 in. That being said, make sure your campground allows them before taking your rig. I am aware of other Alto owners that we're allowed to bring their trailers to tent-only sites (with permission) because they have caravan movers which allow them to easily turn them into tight spots that other trailers otherwise would not be able to fit into.
Can you please tell us specifically what kind of vehicle yiiur towing this with? Thank you
In this video, we were towing with a 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid. We've since upgraded and now tow with 2019 Highlander Hybrid. They are excellent SUVs!
Great video . . . informative and entertaining!
After what has seemed an interminable waiting period, we're finally ready to take delivery of our Alto R1713. We leave for Quebec (from California) next week!
Quick question for you two: As we cross the border back into the U.S.A. will we encounter any kind of import duty?
Hey James. Glad you enjoyed the video and that's exciting news about your pickup date!
Regarding your question, the short answer is "No, you should not encounter any kind of import duty". I can't answer from personal experience as we picked up our pre-owned Alto in the U.S., however I just asked others in the 'Alto Owners' Facebook group and received the following reply...
"Safari Condo will give you the needed paperwork to import your trailer into the USA. You will spend some time at the border processing the paperwork. All fees are [payed as part of] your purchase price, except registration in your home state." Another Alto owner suggested that "Camp trailers (new and used) and parts thereof can be imported to the USA duty free".
Please keep in mind that your results may vary as government processes are subject to change (for example, another owner told us that it took them less than 5 minutes at the border).
Unrelated, please be sure to apply for the 'Alto Owners' Facebook group once you take possession (the group admins will request specific documentation in order to prove ownership) as it's a tremendous resources. In the meantime, I also suggest you proactively join the 'Altoistes' Facebook group (open to everyone). I have seen plenty of fledgling owners ask important questions during their maiden voyage home after taking delivery at the dealership.
Please don't hesitate to ask us any other questions. Good luck on your pickup next week and be sure to subscribe to our channel to be notified of upcoming videos! Take care.
@@JustinandJess Oh my gosh, that's such a lot of good information! Many, many thanks.
We'll be camping in the Pacific Northwest very soon (with family in Hood River Valley, Oregon) so we look forward to someday passing you on the trail.
Happy to help! Have fun hiking in Oregon.
Also while I'm thinking about it, please be sure to ask your salesperson about border crossing procedure (I'm guessing they're already prepared to discuss it with you in detail. They will surely have the latest, up-to-date info you need.
I take it you purchased from Get-Away RV?
@@JustinandJess We'll be talking to our sales rep soon about the border crossing question. Your reply comports with that of another Alto and UA-cam couple (check out "A Life More Light") so I think we'll be fine.
We purchased our trailer direct from the Safari Condo folks in Quebec, so next week we embark on an epic road trip (some 3,100 miles) to pick it up.
@@jamesmillefolie4448 WOW that will be an epic roadtrip! And to the mothership, no less. Do you mind if I ask who your sales rep is?
Also, in case this happens to be your first time towing, I'd like to suggest reading our guide highlighting 14 things that no one told us as new towers. It covers some uncommon use-cases and accessories. As always, we're here if you have any specific questions.
uprootedtraveler.com/blog/2021/3/7/towing-a-travel-trailer-for-the-first-time-things-you-need-to-know-that-no-one-told-me
Nice video. The Alto is the one my wife and I would love to buy as it can fit in our garage.
Where did you get it? Are there dealers in the USA? Thanks for sharing
Hey Victor. Glad you enjoyed our video. We purchased our Alto used. The only US-based dealership I'm aware of is Four Corners RV in Durango, CO.
Lotta space saving
It's incredible how many features they fit into such a compact package! Thanks for watching :)
Where did you get those electric trailer movers or did they come with the trailer
Hey Dman. They came installed from the factory. They are branded as Kronings Caravan Movers.
How is the privacy with so many windows? Do you feel like your in a fishbowl at night time?
It's got customer blackout curtains that you can close at any time, but we typically camp in secluded areas and we prefer to keep them open till we go to bed.
So when will Ricky Smalls be available for your AWESOME neighbors to borrow?
Are you trying to skip the wait-list, Mamie 😂
How did you buy this trailer
We purchased ours to used from a couple in Louisiana. You can also go to Safari condos dealership and Quebec, Can-Am RV Center in London, Ontario were the newest dealership, Four Corners RV in Durango, Colorado.
Was just wondering how much did you all pay for your Alto ?
If I remember correctly, we paid 53k (USD) for this used Alto R1723, model year 2020.
@@JustinandJess great video Justin , just joined your clan of subscribers. Looking forward to seeing more..
WHAT! You have a 12 volt microwave? That's a new one?
Hey Cliff. Sorry for the confusion. It's a standard 120v AC microwave that's connected to our trailer's battery via a 2000W inverter. This setup allows us to use the microwave without electrical hookups.
Thanks for watching!
@@JustinandJess excellent clarification
@@JustinandJess the alto is so much fun. We will be Boondocking this weekend on the c&o canal.
@@cliffwendy3765 have fun out there! I'll be de-winterizing and putting new tires on our trailer this weekend. Not as fun as boondocking, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do :).
does it have a heater and a/c ?
Our model has a trumicombi space/water heater that uses one device to both heat the air and water, using either propane or electricity.
We also have the optional air conditioner / heat pump. So technically our trailer technically has two heaters.
@@JustinandJess
Thank you
How do you order one?
If it were me, I'd start by contacting the Safari Condo sales office in Quebec. Thanks for watching!
Do you use sway/ weight distribution hitch/bars? I'm 6' 2", which models do you think would fit me best? Can 2 kids fit on the other bed?
It's nice, except for the toilet situation. That would be a no-go for us - not much privacy there.
Hi, Is it a plastic or porcelain toilet?
Pretty sure plastic for weight reasons . I’m ordering F1743 from same company
Can confirm, it's made from plastic.
What’s the weight capacity please
The Alto R1723's dry weight (before optional add-ons) is 1867 lbs. If you're asking how much cargo weight can be loaded in the trailer, unfortunately I do not have that answer. But I'm sure a call to the sales team at Safari Condo would get you that answer.
Thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any other questions
Why a 2 year wait?
It is a cleverly designed, well built trailer that is in high demand. Thanks for watching!
I see so many things that will break and need replacing in the first year. Hope whoever buys this thing is handy
Nice camper, nice review, the accompanying music is horrible!
Thanks for the feedback, Jeffrey!