Why 3D Logos Fell Out of Favor Overnight - Cheddar Explains

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  • In the early 2000s, 3D logos and skeuomorphic designs were all the rage. But overnight, the whole world changed to 2D design.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 6 тис.

  • @kellenlusiguess1034
    @kellenlusiguess1034 4 роки тому +7360

    3:12 "When you go flat..."
    *Shows picture of earth*
    What are you trying to say here?

    • @KangJangkrik
      @KangJangkrik 4 роки тому +196

      Ehm... Flat earthers

    • @truebill2105
      @truebill2105 4 роки тому +286

      "you are no longer tied to the physical world" 😂😂

    • @Appfel
      @Appfel 4 роки тому +55

      kellenlus normally it is a good example, but was not really done good here!
      The earth is a globe, but most times we see the earth it is a 2D map, which can only be inaccurate!

    • @KangJangkrik
      @KangJangkrik 4 роки тому +16

      @@Appfel like... Google Maps?

    • @user-lynKx
      @user-lynKx 4 роки тому +19

      @@Appfel Everyone should know at this point that the north and south sides of the rectangular map are extended to fit that more simplified shape. I remember reading that we almost got a map that looked like scribbles just to accurately represent the 3d shape of the Earth.

  • @FIXTREME
    @FIXTREME 4 роки тому +3063

    Maybe it's because I'm so outdated, but I'll always have a soft spot for those glassy 3d logos of the mid 2000's

    • @rockyemmanuelcp868
      @rockyemmanuelcp868 2 роки тому +55

      Me too i like crystal things

    • @amsterdam6141
      @amsterdam6141 2 роки тому +14

      same

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 2 роки тому +8

      Amen brother 🤘

    • @pranshubharadwaj
      @pranshubharadwaj 2 роки тому +23

      I was born in the september 2000, still have that softspot for bevelled and shadowy logos.

    • @justsb7654
      @justsb7654 2 роки тому +12

      I personally prefer the minimalistic approach of the mew ones, but I definitely see where you're coming from. Those just feel more... ✨ natural✨

  • @moddable6921
    @moddable6921 3 роки тому +4361

    "When you go flat, you are no longer tied to the physical world."
    Yeah, flat-earthers are pretty out of touch with reality.

    • @xorophobic
      @xorophobic 3 роки тому +60

      So like when kims ass goes flat from deflating because it couldnt hold the plastic anymore

    • @Randomynous01
      @Randomynous01 3 роки тому +12

      @@xorophobic i got john mulaney vibes

    • @beachbowl274
      @beachbowl274 3 роки тому +12

      Yea Flat Earthers Brain Are out pf touch

    • @bigboipeepee
      @bigboipeepee 3 роки тому +5

      mr cow

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 2 роки тому +25

      Nah fam, if the Earth is round then why is my life constantly going downhill

  • @arutama
    @arutama 3 роки тому +1041

    "Please, don't turn me into an oversimplified logo!", *but this time we got the clear explanations about it.*

    • @NeutralYo
      @NeutralYo 3 роки тому +2

      they got us in the first half not gonna lie

    • @legoboy7107
      @legoboy7107 2 роки тому +35

      Still doesn't excuse the crime that was the Pringles Logo change. Heck, the Pringles logo was ALREADY 2D, it really didn't need any minimalism.

    • @bellac6311
      @bellac6311 2 роки тому +11

      @@legoboy7107 yeah like im a minimalist but holy hell wtf is that logo?!?

    • @breakawayadventures6650
      @breakawayadventures6650 Рік тому +1

      @@legoboy7107 rebranding is usually needed at time especially when you’re one of the biggest corporations in the world

  • @N0SEY
    @N0SEY 5 років тому +15825

    I remember when UA-cam had the tv 📺 symbol

    • @missingno2401
      @missingno2401 4 роки тому +1190

      or when it was pre installed on iphone and ipad

    • @kwya
      @kwya 4 роки тому +629

      I'm doubting this since your channel is about fortnite

    • @javierstrive3356
      @javierstrive3356 4 роки тому +14

      Those Memories

    • @javierstrive3356
      @javierstrive3356 4 роки тому +17

      Back In 2005

    • @mak.1ps
      @mak.1ps 4 роки тому +30

      @Solar Studios UwU yes it is,because it actually looks like the character is coppied and re-animated,even if it is not coppied,it looks like it could be made fairly easily.also you just said you were part of the community since you were 11,meaning you were a little kid and proving the point of @FestiveKillian
      Also,please remove the uwu from your name it will just make people hate you(im not hating,im just saying people will hate you about it)

  • @Incrazyboyy
    @Incrazyboyy 5 років тому +5126

    even earth changed from 3d to flat

  • @shiitake5860
    @shiitake5860 3 роки тому +2261

    I remember the times when mobile icons were “Shiny” and realistic

    • @xymaryai8283
      @xymaryai8283 3 роки тому +70

      i don't like the old logos, i don't like the new ones either. there was (and still is, but smaller) a community that designed awesome, scalable and very recognisable 3D, but not necessarily Skeuomorphic icons and logos. the Firefox ones were crazy epic, and there are so many themed ones too. tbh, companies should embrace these, sure, have one logo for the parent, but recognise and use various types of logos and icons in relevant places! I want to be able to chose old or different icons.

    • @turusan02
      @turusan02 3 роки тому +24

      ahh, the vista times

    • @sultansakr3123
      @sultansakr3123 3 роки тому +14

      It's called skeumorphism

    • @DJKing-vl8qn
      @DJKing-vl8qn 3 роки тому +11

      I was very little in 2013, so I don’t remember the days when mobile icons were 3D.

    • @sofiamd3138
      @sofiamd3138 3 роки тому +4

      Skeuomorphism

  • @twosinister
    @twosinister 2 роки тому +304

    I believe this is just a cycle. There's no way we won't see 3d logos again. They'll pop up and then the new 2d minimalist designs will look weird. And around and around we'll go.

    • @ujjwalrsanagapati5794
      @ujjwalrsanagapati5794 2 роки тому +2

      Time's a flat circle,ain't?

    • @Breeze926
      @Breeze926 2 роки тому +25

      We are already approaching logos with more depth like Microsoft's fluent design and Apple's shading in the new macOS

    • @twosinister
      @twosinister 2 роки тому +4

      @@ujjwalrsanagapati5794 Yep, just look at the clock

    • @twosinister
      @twosinister 2 роки тому +1

      @@Breeze926 Crazy

    • @joy0953
      @joy0953 2 роки тому

      what if in the future the logos are just minimalist simplify lines instead of flat color filled shapes?

  • @christineboutin3767
    @christineboutin3767 5 років тому +4441

    "from the 1970s came cgi"
    *shows stop motion example*

    • @andrewt7884
      @andrewt7884 5 років тому +177

      Christine Boutin also it was an MTV ad, they weren’t around in the 70s

    • @MrPrice-bb2gn
      @MrPrice-bb2gn 5 років тому +11

      IKR!

    • @missmoxie9188
      @missmoxie9188 5 років тому +16

      I thought it was claymation

    • @christineboutin3767
      @christineboutin3767 5 років тому +63

      claymation techically *is* stop motion

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason 5 років тому +72

      @@andrewt7884 The CGI was the Star Wars clip, showing their plan to attack the Death Star. The MTV clip is accompanied by "...and from there, logos started to come to life" showing the claymation 1980s MTV ad that transitions into a vibrant logo.

  • @abijo5052
    @abijo5052 5 років тому +2533

    "How 3D logos disappeared over night"
    "Over the next 3 years"
    Hmmm

    • @brunella5040
      @brunella5040 4 роки тому +56

      Daniel Wilkes Three years in a history perspective is a pretty small timeframe

    • @abijo5052
      @abijo5052 4 роки тому +64

      @@brunella5040 Relative to the history of humanity yes. But in design or technology terms its a long time, and definitely not overnight

    • @brunella5040
      @brunella5040 4 роки тому +16

      Daniel Wilkes Fair enough, I guess that since internet hasn’t been around for that long it should be judged using modern history perspective after all

    • @21minute
      @21minute 4 роки тому +8

      Apparently, an iOS update did that. Lol

    • @RyanStewartUSA
      @RyanStewartUSA 4 роки тому +13

      And it didnt hit with Apple. Windows and Android had already gone "flat" prior and Apple was the last mover. People were literally making fun of Apple still using skeumorphism at that point. The knock on IOS7 were errors in their implementation of the flat design.

  • @marvellousmistake
    @marvellousmistake 4 роки тому +1175

    "there are no hamburger menus in real life"
    *shows a hamburger menu*

    • @bakedsunrise8041
      @bakedsunrise8041 3 роки тому +33

      Oh I think she may be talking about a menu full of burgers

    • @dguy0386
      @dguy0386 3 роки тому +5

      i saw that too XD

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 2 роки тому +5

      It was also a good example of _why_ the hamburger menu looks the way it does: a list of options arranged in vertically stacked horizontal lines. So the hamburger icon is a set of vertically stacked horizontal lines.

    • @AmanCreatesArt
      @AmanCreatesArt 2 роки тому +3

      The Hamburger Menu is called that because the symbol for it is reminiscent of a hamburger patty between two buns though. 🍔

    • @LC-le9ew
      @LC-le9ew 2 роки тому +1

      I didn’t get that? 🤷‍♀️

  • @Pixelcraftian
    @Pixelcraftian 3 роки тому +1149

    I want skeuomorphism back :/
    It's not because of nostalgia, I mean is kinda.. but it's mainly because it looks cool.

    • @ThatWhiteHand
      @ThatWhiteHand 3 роки тому +94

      I second this. I spend a lot of my time making skeuomorphic websites for fun. I liked 3D design and was a fan of apple during that era for how unique they looked back then. Now everything is the same and boring.

    • @mabeylane7163
      @mabeylane7163 3 роки тому +39

      I think it should come back but in a more subtle way.

    • @markusjuenemann
      @markusjuenemann 3 роки тому +5

      I´m totally with you!

    • @legobattledroid3128
      @legobattledroid3128 3 роки тому +67

      I hate overly “sleek” and “modern-looking” design. No I’m not one who always hates everything because it’s new, but I just feel skeuomorphic design had more personality and life. It looks fun and happy. Flat design is generic and just basic polygons and text. It takes the life out of it, and takes away all depth to it.

    • @mabeylane7163
      @mabeylane7163 3 роки тому +23

      @@legobattledroid3128 yeah I feel like there should be a balance. companies should keep their simplified logos but also use more realistic and artistic versions of their logos. Minimalism can lead to some of the best and most creative designs when used well but so many companies and logos are starting to look identical and boring.

  • @davidwai90
    @davidwai90 5 років тому +3322

    The real reason is that the higher resolution screens have allowed for cleaner lines. 3D logos, including shadows and bezels, were used to hide low resolution flaws.

    • @bletwort2920
      @bletwort2920 4 роки тому +91

      davidwai90 wouldn’t higher resolution phones with powerful gpus and bigger battery do 3D better?

    • @cronchcrunch
      @cronchcrunch 4 роки тому +133

      @@bletwort2920 yes, but if you only have a low resolution display then 3D looks better because it can hide flaws

    • @amateurprogrammer25
      @amateurprogrammer25 4 роки тому +68

      3D looks better even if you don't have a low resolution display. The entirety of the videogame industry is based on this fact.

    • @kianjsr
      @kianjsr 4 роки тому +39

      @@amateurprogrammer25 you're forgetting about vector, 3D looks better as icons when small. Compared to 2D which works at all sizes

    • @amateurprogrammer25
      @amateurprogrammer25 4 роки тому +17

      @@kianjsr Firstly, literally zero major... well I'm not going to say operating systems because it's the GUI... anyway, literally zero of them actually store app icons as vector graphics. Even PalmOS (which was designed to have scalable graphics since icons had to look the same size across screens with WILDLY different pixel densities, and, need I remind you, PalmOS icons were almost exclusively 2D) used bitmaps to store icon data. Secondly, as I said, 3D rendering is not that difficult. If app icons were sent to devices as 3D models rather than image files, at the size icons are typically displayed, even the weakest of modern phones could EASILY render a page full of icons, each with potentially hundreds of polygons, without noticeable stutter. If you wanted to show it at a higher resolution on a more powerful device, just render it larger, on that device, when the page is displayed. As I said, though, all modern operating systems store their app icons with pixel data, not vector graphics or 3D models. (Don't believe me? Set your display scaling to 300% and look at your desktop.) It's true that, generally speaking, boring, flat designs that use nothing but circles, geometric shapes, muted hues, and gradients tend to upscale better than designs that appear 3D simply because they look mostly the same when you make them blurry and that's essentially what upscaling does. Still though. That's a terrible excuse for using flat design. Just ship a higher resolution image! (Most apps ship their boring flat images at 5x higher resolution than they'll ever be shown anyway, so why not?)

  • @hypercatsinspace7625
    @hypercatsinspace7625 4 роки тому +2861

    Who else gets serious nostalgia looking at those old 3d logos?

    • @marcelob.678
      @marcelob.678 3 роки тому +103

      @Grecil Unadkat dude I was born in 2001 and got nostalgia from it. Also shut up with your outdated memes . Its cringy.

    • @clarencelol4921
      @clarencelol4921 3 роки тому +38

      @Grecil Unadkat hello kid

    • @highoctanegames
      @highoctanegames 3 роки тому +16

      They were way better

    • @Bakon
      @Bakon 3 роки тому +47

      @Grecil Unadkat I still value a good 3D icon more than a shitty flat one

    • @veerchasm1
      @veerchasm1 3 роки тому +2

      Just you

  • @cgtonic3637
    @cgtonic3637 3 роки тому +325

    I'm tired of the "Apple invents everything" mindset. They were like the last company playing catchup to the flat design trend. The iPhone had less than 20% global marketshare at the time. It was absolutely not responsible

    • @verynameboi4121
      @verynameboi4121 2 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @BS-vx8dg
      @BS-vx8dg 2 роки тому +11

      Apple *was* last, and that's because Tim Cook needed to wait for Steve Jobs to die before he killed skeuomorphism. I was not fan of Jobs, but I wish he were still alive so this would not have happened.

    • @danferrusquia2819
      @danferrusquia2819 2 роки тому +15

      @@BS-vx8dg That’s not the reason for it at all but go off

    • @danferrusquia2819
      @danferrusquia2819 2 роки тому +31

      Apple doesn’t invent anything, but they typically are the ones to popularize it

    • @4tqny
      @4tqny 2 роки тому +3

      @Slayer Developer this is actually not true, it was introduced with android 4.4 kitkat, which was like a month before ios 7

  • @Proteus846
    @Proteus846 3 роки тому +230

    iOS didn’t “update overnight” to the flat design of iOS 7. Automatic system software updates weren’t a thing back then. You needed to do it yourself. Also it wasn’t overnight that it changed, because Apple always shows their new major releases months before release in a showcase for developers… the world knew it was coming before it did.
    I remember how hideous iOS 7 was. I hated it. But it wasn’t about learning to love it - the design was in fact terrible. The idea was there, but the execution was very poor. It took years before iOS actually looked good again, instead of looking like a knock-off of itself.
    I was a graphic designer at the time (I still am, but it’s not my job anymore) and I learned to love the trend because it made design much easier - especially with the two years iOS 7 and 8 were the latest releases of iOS, because I could throw something of equal quality together in five or ten minutes. It’s not as easy now, but it’s still very nice to save time by not using embossing and drop shadows in Photoshop.
    By the way, I find it interesting that the example icon is Instagram - they were one of the last apps on my phone to get a modern icon. It remained skeuomorphic for long enough that it seriously bothered me.

    • @chrissolace
      @chrissolace 2 роки тому +10

      I personally found it really nice to look at-but I’m no graphic designer! I think the reason why I liked it so much was because it was flat, clean looking, and radically different. I’m sure Apple (being the multi-million dollar company that it was) could’ve made a design that could’ve appealed to regular users as well graphic designers.

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB 2 роки тому +16

      “X happened overnight” is a turn of phrase 😅

    • @speedylordinc.3748
      @speedylordinc.3748 2 роки тому +3

      It's an English phrase lol

    • @TheRafark
      @TheRafark 6 місяців тому +1

      Also, skeuomorphism didn’t exist because of the iPhone. OS X was very skeuomorphic before the iPhone was a thing.

  • @deideh
    @deideh 5 років тому +11049

    I’m disliking because of the missed titling opportunity...
    It should have been
    ‘Why 3D logos fell flat overnight’

    • @aMySour
      @aMySour 5 років тому +327

      @i cant come up with a username so i went with this r/whoooosh

    • @Adam678645435637
      @Adam678645435637 5 років тому +132

      Sᴏᴜʀ Gᴀᴍᴇs r/ihavereddit

    • @sabersz
      @sabersz 5 років тому +137

      @@Adam678645435637 r/iamverysmart

    • @ifrazali3052
      @ifrazali3052 5 років тому +2

      .

    • @skiraxgs
      @skiraxgs 5 років тому +61

      @@aMySour r/itswhooooshwith4os

  • @Retrovibes
    @Retrovibes 5 років тому +1928

    Is this a joke? So now History has been rewritten and the flat design trend was thanks to Apple's "overnight update"? Nice try, but some of us remember clearly that it was the Metro UI in Zune and Windows that started the shift. Google continued with Material design and Apple, reluctantly, followed (Jobs was a big fan of skeuomorphic design). I guess it's just trendy to mention Apple in everything.

    • @Poliwager
      @Poliwager 5 років тому +53

      Not to mention if we're taking this literally, iOS updates usually first happen during the mid-morning. :P

    • @svgslayr4771
      @svgslayr4771 5 років тому +11

      @@Poliwager people are notified about it too

    • @tklawrence123749
      @tklawrence123749 5 років тому +93

      But nobody cares about the Zune & Windows phone enough for them to have an impact on the market. Apple however essentially forced tens of thousands of app developers to shift to the new design, the flat design change that happened in Apple's UI had a much bigger far-reaching impact in the UI design space than that of any change in Windows UI.

    • @PeteNicholsonAnimation
      @PeteNicholsonAnimation 5 років тому +20

      I think that while Jobs was a fan of skeuomorphic design, Jony Ive is not. After iOS 6 launched with Maps, the head of iOS was fired because of how bad Maps was, and Jony Ive took over software design, leading to flat iOS 7.
      But yeah, all that happened a few years after the Metro UI and a year or so after Google's Material Design.

    • @doom5895
      @doom5895 5 років тому +1

      Retrovibes metro sucks areo is best

  • @robertcourtemanche9185
    @robertcourtemanche9185 3 роки тому +52

    The flat design also calls back to the Bauhaus school of design from the 1920s - with clean lines and easy to read fonts.

  • @queda5331
    @queda5331 3 роки тому +72

    The Instagram one hit me the hardest.
    I just love the vintage camera logo.

  • @carlover4239
    @carlover4239 5 років тому +3006

    "the iPhone and iTouch" -- please fire whoever wrote the script.

    • @coriae
      @coriae 5 років тому +242

      wdym I have the iTouch mini...
      wait
      FBI OPEN UP

    • @elixer4583
      @elixer4583 5 років тому +32

      OH GOD

    • @flexmix
      @flexmix 5 років тому +18

      Word!

    • @ezaquatics8991
      @ezaquatics8991 5 років тому +97

      Seriously. I physically cringed when I heard it. I worked at the equivalent of a Best Buy in that era... Painful, every day.

    • @AlexeBriand2002
      @AlexeBriand2002 5 років тому +8

      Mark Laturno i just wrote a similar comment. cringe

  • @fellowgamer5363
    @fellowgamer5363 4 роки тому +1180

    4:16 the pizza hut logo wasn't even 3d tho it just had more that 2 colors

    • @ecoRfan
      @ecoRfan 4 роки тому +69

      IHOP logo there was also 2D

    • @bellacontess5388
      @bellacontess5388 4 роки тому +60

      I think it's about the script overlapping with other elements, like the hat or this red banner in the IHOP design. Not exactly 3D, but she's right that the new version does look cleaner and everything seems more in place than before.

    • @lightbrand_
      @lightbrand_ 4 роки тому +24

      I was not aware Pizza Hut changed logo, maybe I’m really fucking blind or it didn’t change in Belgium idk I have no clue

    • @majinbros9971
      @majinbros9971 4 роки тому +11

      the entire video is filled with frustrating stuff like this tbh

    • @ultimategamingtoaster9216
      @ultimategamingtoaster9216 3 роки тому +2

      @@ecoRfan no it was a bit 3d

  • @brandonn6099
    @brandonn6099 3 роки тому +262

    I hate it. All the logos look the same now.
    "When you go flat, you are no longer tied to the physical world" Yeah great, so things no longer look like what they are and take twice as long to find.

    • @RoadTab
      @RoadTab 3 роки тому +8

      true wtf

    • @Damian-cilr1
      @Damian-cilr1 3 роки тому +18

      i prefer the windows 7 like icons that are more 3d ish not this flat shit

    • @irishjet2687
      @irishjet2687 3 роки тому +19

      That's a problem with the designers, not necessarily flat icons. You can often take a logo that appears 3D and flatten it without losing much, and while maintaining the elements that made it recognizable. But since everyone was redesigning anyway, some companies decided to get really abstract with their design, some completely changed their logos to where they didn't resemble anything they used to be, some decided they were as iconic as Apple or Starbucks and got rid of words, and some did all of the above.
      Take Firefox. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't get rid of the fox for their browser, but they did change the browser icon in 2019, shrinking the blue globe, making it purple, and simplifying the fox. I don't like it. I think both the 2013 and 2017 logos were great, with 2017 being a great example of a logo redesign that is still recognizable while being a little flatter. But they just HAD to tinker with it.

    • @gammacxytwo5626
      @gammacxytwo5626 3 роки тому +1

      Oh well! Just remember. I’ve used my IPad for 3 years and I remember where everything is, even if they were just colors with no design. I could probably switch through apps with my eyes closed.

    • @brandonn6099
      @brandonn6099 3 роки тому +3

      @@Chorismos IDK, Linus Tech Tips switched from a 2D to a 3D animated intro and the 3D looks way better. It may be easier to animate a 2D logo, but I don't think it's better. Also, if we're talking icons, I don't want a bunch of animated icons on my home screen. Maybe some very light, tasteful animation would work, but certainly nothing drastic.

  • @isaac5538
    @isaac5538 3 роки тому +104

    1:32 ”Logos were going 3D”
    Shows 2D logo

    • @hkbthen00b
      @hkbthen00b 3 роки тому +1

      LoL
      I noticed that too

    • @Walymie
      @Walymie 3 роки тому +3

      yeah, should have shown a better example.

    • @drdr1175
      @drdr1175 2 роки тому

      Burger kings prevous logo is 3d than the one now

  • @leander1095
    @leander1095 5 років тому +1953

    But didn’t windows 8 bring a flat user interface, before iOS 7 was released?

    • @thebasketballhistorian3291
      @thebasketballhistorian3291 5 років тому +230

      And I really hated that 2D Win 8 design!
      Win XP was too 3D and bubbly though. Win 10 is a perfect middle between 2D and 3D.

    • @danny5035
      @danny5035 5 років тому +90

      zune had same metro UI in like 2009

    • @reimarpb
      @reimarpb 5 років тому +99

      And even before that, Windows Phone had it

    • @davr1
      @davr1 5 років тому +44

      Windows 8 design feels like cheaply made, unfinished windows 7 theme. I hate it so much

    • @sidjtd
      @sidjtd 5 років тому +7

      Yeah but Win8 wasn’t a switch from the same-format squomorphism to similar but flat, but an entire transition that simply failed.

  • @YuKheThai
    @YuKheThai 5 років тому +368

    I was working as a graphic designer in 2012 and at that time clean, simplistic, 2d designs had already been taking over for at least a couple years. Most graphic designers were well aware of the trend long before 2013.

    • @49vlogss
      @49vlogss 4 роки тому +7

      KheThai ok boomer

    • @GHENIC
      @GHENIC 4 роки тому +46

      @@49vlogss does this necropost reply provide any important relevant information to the comment?

    • @BrandonsFlipbooks24
      @BrandonsFlipbooks24 4 роки тому +9

      you’re right, they totally ignored Microsoft’s metro design which was the first big shift to flat in an operating system...

    • @TheDragShot
      @TheDragShot 4 роки тому +1

      *@The 505 Studio* sure thing, zoom kid.

    • @ange8295
      @ange8295 4 роки тому +5

      The 505 Studio so many people use this meme incorrectly-

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 4 роки тому +405

    (3:45) But didn't Android release their flat design before?
    I guess only iPhones exist in Cheddar's world.

    • @giovannisantopaolo9222
      @giovannisantopaolo9222 3 роки тому +18

      Because android is an ios copycat

    • @wrmoose6542
      @wrmoose6542 3 роки тому +153

      @@giovannisantopaolo9222 No, it not.

    • @giovannisantopaolo9222
      @giovannisantopaolo9222 3 роки тому +15

      @@wrmoose6542 It's*

    • @wrmoose6542
      @wrmoose6542 3 роки тому +68

      @@giovannisantopaolo9222 thanks.

    • @galacticquasaur2956
      @galacticquasaur2956 3 роки тому +61

      Giovanni Santopaolo IPhone is the simplicity phone and Android is the customization phone (the most basic way to explain)

  • @commentbot9510
    @commentbot9510 3 роки тому +33

    When they made the switch to 2D, I missed the old look of a lot of things. I refused to update my phone for a long time to keep the 3D logos

  • @tlink6080
    @tlink6080 5 років тому +166

    When she looked 2d I was begging she did not look the same the rest of the video

  • @ThisisBarris
    @ThisisBarris 5 років тому +10449

    Because 3D always looked cheap and gimmicky. 2D and minimalism is clean and professional.

    • @angelaphsiao
      @angelaphsiao 5 років тому +1537

      Thats what we think today, in 10 years we might think minimalism looks cheap or old fashioned.

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 5 років тому +679

      @@angelaphsiao I doubt it. As the video says, logos were always flat. The reason why there was a bump in 3D use in the 2000s is that CGI and 3D technology were the hot "new" thing so everyone had to try it out. But eventually, people realized it's kinda lame.

    • @iLikeTheUDK
      @iLikeTheUDK 5 років тому +234

      Would you have said the same thing 20 or 15 years ago?

    • @AnonymousGentooman
      @AnonymousGentooman 5 років тому +285

      i think 2d just looks lazy but to each their own i guess

    • @kc2094
      @kc2094 5 років тому +295

      But see that's the thing. Our perception of what looks goofy or cool changes. It's why people aren't running around in bellbottoms on the streets, even though plenty of people used to. Each era has its own things.

  • @huckleberryartist609
    @huckleberryartist609 3 роки тому +107

    Twenty years later:
    Why 3D humans fell out of favor overnight - Cheddar Explains

    • @cottoncandy2023
      @cottoncandy2023 3 роки тому +15

      Weeaboos: I was into 2D people before it was cool 😎

    • @maschan91
      @maschan91 3 роки тому +5

      Enter V-tubers

  • @NiffirgkcaJ
    @NiffirgkcaJ 3 роки тому +18

    I never really felt I was touching a real button when it was making sounds and haptic feedback~

  • @GuidoC-Design
    @GuidoC-Design 5 років тому +2769

    "logos were going 3d"
    shows a 2d example.

    • @Ramix09
      @Ramix09 5 років тому +38

      I mean that Burger King logo is 2D but not flat

    • @Shloomy_Shloms
      @Shloomy_Shloms 5 років тому +26

      I mean technically everything shown was 2D since it was on a screen

    • @CubyChrisAnimations
      @CubyChrisAnimations 5 років тому +7

      @@Shloomy_Shloms If we're going to be technical here, then a screen isn't actually 2D. It might be flat, but not so flat that it affects the amount of dimensions.

    • @Geerice
      @Geerice 5 років тому +10

      @@CubyChrisAnimations the screen as an object isn't 2d, but the information it shows you is.

    • @AL3X2580
      @AL3X2580 5 років тому +5

      No it’s 3d, those highlights on the burger buns imply that the surface is perpendicular to the source of light

  • @brandenakens3507
    @brandenakens3507 5 років тому +591

    Most of these examples are 2D logos being simplified... not even 3D to 2D.

    • @WizardOfPimpnog
      @WizardOfPimpnog 4 роки тому +54

      Omg this. The way "2D" and "3D" is used in this video is quite annoying.

    • @Hot18Shot
      @Hot18Shot 4 роки тому +2

      Speaking of logos, I dig your profile pic. You make it?

    • @ninoineza
      @ninoineza 4 роки тому

      Vicious Zero what is that supposed to mean?🤨

    • @ethank5681
      @ethank5681 4 роки тому

      Branden Akens yeah this woman has no clue sometimes you wonder why they do this

    • @sergioperez3721
      @sergioperez3721 4 роки тому

      Branden Akens right?

  • @wastelandwanderer2693
    @wastelandwanderer2693 3 роки тому +51

    I like the 3D logos way more, if you're born in the 90's like me and grew up in the early 2000's, you saw 3D logos everywhere. Guess it's just nostalgia. But still 3D just looked cooler imo.

    • @himaro101
      @himaro101 2 роки тому +2

      It's a preference thing for sure. I'm a 90's kid as well (1990 OG) and prefer the clean look of the 2D interface. But then I've always liked sleek and clean looking design. The whole 3D, bubble look never gelled with me, even when it was everywhere.

    • @lovelydolltime8006
      @lovelydolltime8006 Рік тому +1

      I was born in the 2000s and same. Fuck the stupid minimalism/flat design trend. I'd do anything for skeuomorphism to make a comeback.

  • @chilad5966
    @chilad5966 3 роки тому +55

    "When you are flat, you are no longer tied to the physical world"
    That felt a bit too philosophical all of a sudden

  • @roy04
    @roy04 5 років тому +166

    Well, the move to minimalism didn't change overnight, Apple did. The change to minimalism happened gradually. In fact, it started years ago when Microsoft with their Windows 8 (2012) and Windows Phone 7 (2010) made the move to minimalism prior to the release of iOS 7 (2013).

    • @ninja1inblack105
      @ninja1inblack105 5 років тому +6

      Anchit Roy true but no one really noticed the changes Microsoft and the other early adopters made. My dad did because he had those ancient Windows phones but the rest of the world using IOS noticed after IOS 7. News sources and Reddit feeds lit up about the new design change after IOS 7, not after Microsoft or any of the other companies did it.

    • @lovelydolltime8006
      @lovelydolltime8006 Рік тому +1

      It actually started when Microsoft released the failed Zune MP3 player in 2006.

  • @katomiccomics202
    @katomiccomics202 4 роки тому +2563

    “There are no hamburger menus in real life”
    They’re called hamburger menus.

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому +94

      they get that name because of the icon, not the style of the menu
      the menu icon, with 3 lines is said to resemble a hamburger
      the drop down menu itself has nothing to do with it
      any menu comming from a hamburger button
      is called a hamburger menu
      and they dont exist irl
      what menus do u know of
      can disappear and reappear by the click of a button?
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_button

    • @jameswalker199
      @jameswalker199 4 роки тому +48

      Jokes aside, they do exist in real life, they are literally just a menu. Even the icon looks like lines of text on a menu.

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому +33

      @@jameswalker199 again, no, its about function not design
      the haul mark of a hamburger menu is that it can *disappear and reappear*
      we have no menus that vanish irl
      the name comes from the icon
      but what its known for has nothing to do with design
      its the function it has to hide itself
      menus that hide and collapse
      do not exist irl, maybe oneday thoe

    • @aethelred9781
      @aethelred9781 4 роки тому +5

      Half the menu buttons are 3 lines, half are 3 dots. So what are the 3 dots ones called?

    • @Jannemandevries
      @Jannemandevries 3 роки тому +6

      You can order one at McDonalds, I have many times...

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 3 роки тому +3

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Steve Jobs who was an early proponent of skeuomorphism. When he died in 2011, Apple's design started to go in a different direction.

  • @starbender5468
    @starbender5468 2 роки тому +8

    i think the main reason companies have been doing this is recognizability and versatility. flat logos can blend in to many more situations, and generally take less effort to recognize subconsciously.

  • @JOVAHK11N
    @JOVAHK11N 5 років тому +761

    I remember the trend of going flat started waaaaaay before iPhones were even a thing. The first one I remember was the Pepsi logo, I was like 12 when they redesigned it.

    • @abramo7700
      @abramo7700 5 років тому +27

      iPhone is god to them rn

    • @ethank5681
      @ethank5681 4 роки тому

      Jesus Osvaldo Broch 12 years ago wasn’t that long ago pal

    • @jaimeeiswriting
      @jaimeeiswriting 4 роки тому +10

      Ethan K it said that he was 12, not that it was 12 years ago

    • @terrorzilla
      @terrorzilla 4 роки тому +4

      Microsoft went flat before Apple

    • @Jivolt
      @Jivolt 4 роки тому +1

      Don’t even get me started on the Pepsi logo “redesign” fiasco.

  • @pipboy9999
    @pipboy9999 5 років тому +1649

    I'm not sure it's totally fair to insinuate that the world suddenly become 2D because Apple updated it's platform.
    I think it's much more likely that Apple began to normalize a design trend that had been gathering steam.
    For example, the early 2000's desktop computers went through a craze of "bubbly" and rounded icons and UI features on nearly all platforms, not just new fangled touchscreens, when only a decade before every thing was flat and sharp. Now, boxy, sharp, and high contrast is in style and the previous "high fashion" of UI design is looked down upon.
    In short, I think it worth bringing up that design tastes and trends are always changing and what is old will inevitably be new again.

    • @thebasketballhistorian3291
      @thebasketballhistorian3291 5 років тому +81

      This entire video makes me thing the entire Cheddar staff are Apple fans.
      They talk about the trash can instead of the recycle bin, show the iPhone in
      all the shots, and even when talking about Google, have it displayed on an iMac.

    • @abhisheksahu664
      @abhisheksahu664 5 років тому +9

      Yes apple just followed the stream , just like others

    • @joshmayne2853
      @joshmayne2853 5 років тому +32

      WHAT?! APPLE CREATED EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE!!!!
      No Windows 8 flat design didn't come out a full YEAR before.
      IT's AAALLL AAAPPLLEE!!!!

    • @cheddar
      @cheddar  5 років тому +26

      +Julie Winters We agree with that. Apple didn't start the trend, but that update was most people's single most relevant connection to the switch from 3D to 2D logos, even if they didn't have an iPhone. As we know: as goes Apple so goes much of the rest of the tech/design world (look at the layout of a Microsoft store); even though Apple is actually sometimes behind the curve in terms of technical features and innovation if you compare them to smaller companies and Android.

    • @doomdoctor6380
      @doomdoctor6380 5 років тому +31

      ​@@cheddar Windows 8 came out earlier and MS started the whole push towards flat/metro design. It was very much controversial at that time as Windows 7's aesthetic was already popular(still is to some extent). Apple only adapted it.

  • @paulofalca0
    @paulofalca0 4 роки тому +41

    I still have a working iPhone 3G the interface is beautiful. Well done 3D interfaces are beautiful, and very intuitive, but very few people can do it, 2D stuff is much easier todo but much less intuitive. IMHO

  • @extrapathos
    @extrapathos 3 роки тому +47

    I miss the old Olive Garden logo, it was my favorite restaurant as a kid.

  • @nirke_
    @nirke_ 5 років тому +3540

    The idea that Apple is the sole responsible for flat iconography is ridiculous and just plain wrong.

    • @yasirsaheed
      @yasirsaheed 5 років тому +217

      Windows Phone had it in 2010 & Windows 8 got it in 2012!

    • @reimarpb
      @reimarpb 5 років тому +199

      They weren't entirely responsible but they had a big influence

    • @cheddar
      @cheddar  5 років тому +191

      @@yasirsaheed Copy/paste from another thread: It would be hard to argue that at the time this happened Windows had the same "design authority" with which to make up a lot of people's minds for them. Apple wasn't the first mover but they were the "last word".

    • @NoThrottle
      @NoThrottle 5 років тому +15

      Seeing as it is a semi-popular platform at the time,
      their change did have some reasonable impact, adding to Windows 8 a few months back.

    • @jacurutu6888
      @jacurutu6888 5 років тому +117

      @@cheddar The world of design is made up of designers who are mostly up to date with the overall trend that design is going toward. Not apple fanboys who suddenly copy everything that apple does. You seemed to insinuate in the video that IHOP changed their logo because of IOS. That's just plain ridiculous and you defending that takes a lot of credibility out of your channel. Apple was just along for the ride of flat design that had already been going on for a while.

  • @SumitSharma-vq4ry
    @SumitSharma-vq4ry 5 років тому +2431

    Well i'm a designer and this video was incredibly inaccurate..3D logos are still relevant to this day, but what actually has went outdated is "GLOSSY" design. World of design is a free flow of ever changing ideas and approach to things, either a design is timeless, relevant or outdated. And most importantly APPLE doesn't define shit in terms of design trends.

    • @lunatic1066
      @lunatic1066 5 років тому +59

      Sumit Sharma shut up Indian

    • @BlissOn47
      @BlissOn47 5 років тому +43

      Appreciate the last part

    • @White_Recluse
      @White_Recluse 5 років тому +86

      Apple was well known for popularizing touch screen smartphones, and the glossy aesthetic for their iPhones is something well known.

    • @Lekaleino
      @Lekaleino 5 років тому +25

      Sumit Sharma angry huawei designer

    • @KamranYounis1
      @KamranYounis1 5 років тому +30

      @@Lekaleino Why specifically "huawei"?

  • @jenna2026
    @jenna2026 3 роки тому +10

    1996-2006 = 3d logos
    2006-2019 - flat logos/retro logos
    2020s = 3d logos are back again
    It is a cycle like everything else.

    • @UnchainedEruption
      @UnchainedEruption 3 роки тому +1

      3D was there pretty much up until 2013 or so, and even though things weren't quite as 3D before Win 95 due to tech limitations, they still tried to simulate shadows with what they had in stuff like Win 3.1. And you still had real-world analogues (Think floppy drive for saving), so skeuomorphism was always there.

    • @jenna2026
      @jenna2026 3 роки тому +2

      ​@@UnchainedEruption yes, but around 2006 they started to flatten some logos that were maybe not "tech" related...such as Coca-Cola, diet Coke (those designs were much more flatter than the previous design from the early 2000's. Another example is Pepsi in 2008 (they ruined the logo), Gatorade (they changed the focus from the lightening bold to a giant flat "G" and the typeface was changed to a generic white upright logo). Despite complaints since 2008 Pepsi/Gatorade have refused to stop using the over simplified logo. TV stations started using flatter logos as well for their on-screen graphics after 2005, just look at the current WGN logo and current STARZ logo...it gradually became more simplified looking since the late 2000's. The trend was just too overdone, now we reached the point where many logos are all looking the same.

  • @mwbgaming28
    @mwbgaming28 3 роки тому +2

    This is why one of the first things I do when I get a new device is turn off automatic updates

    • @Ray-tf5wu
      @Ray-tf5wu 3 роки тому

      What's your pfp meant to mean?

    • @mwbgaming28
      @mwbgaming28 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ray-tf5wu I hate human rights violators

    • @Ray-tf5wu
      @Ray-tf5wu 3 роки тому

      @@mwbgaming28 who are those

    • @mwbgaming28
      @mwbgaming28 3 роки тому

      @@Ray-tf5wu Islam

    • @Ray-tf5wu
      @Ray-tf5wu 3 роки тому

      @@mwbgaming28 what did they do

  • @liam-man7265
    @liam-man7265 4 роки тому +617

    0:47 The logo transition with Netflix is partly 3D.

    • @Keit-Yx
      @Keit-Yx 4 роки тому +13

      But it's pretty cool

    • @liam-man7265
      @liam-man7265 4 роки тому +11

      Keit-Yx I know, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing because my interests are old-school.

    • @Keit-Yx
      @Keit-Yx 4 роки тому +17

      I know that you know. We all know.

    • @walidfakhfakh3660
      @walidfakhfakh3660 3 роки тому +2

      @@Keit-Yx gtfo

    • @superNova5837
      @superNova5837 3 роки тому +2

      Flat animation the shadow is a square that moves and disappears

  • @xavierxavier3610
    @xavierxavier3610 5 років тому +756

    In the future logos will be 1D

    • @emreozkarasn9226
      @emreozkarasn9226 4 роки тому +76

      Then it would look like this: “---”

    • @juice3702
      @juice3702 4 роки тому +2

      @@emreozkarasn9226 thats 0d

    • @emreozkarasn9226
      @emreozkarasn9226 4 роки тому +3

      my bad lol

    • @bluesailormercury
      @bluesailormercury 4 роки тому +46

      @@juice3702 No, because it has length. 0d is no dimensions at all, so that would be just a point with no width or length.

    • @juice3702
      @juice3702 4 роки тому +35

      @@bluesailormercury he edited his response, originally said the logo would look like "."

  • @fancy_f0x613
    @fancy_f0x613 2 роки тому +8

    I always loved the 3D logo it just looked very professional to me

  • @curtandrewsjr.8163
    @curtandrewsjr.8163 3 роки тому +11

    You know, even though I don’t like this video that much, I’m just here to say
    IT’S A MEME NOW BOIS

  • @shtboxgarage
    @shtboxgarage 5 років тому +372

    The whole world went 2d overnight
    iOS 7 came out.
    Lmao

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 4 роки тому +7

      @@preetrocks1 literally 😂
      In my country we didn't even get internet for general public till late 2000s

    • @PromoCraft-rz3vz
      @PromoCraft-rz3vz 4 роки тому +3

      Even today 51% of the population has internet.

    • @evilbred974
      @evilbred974 4 роки тому +2

      To be fair, other OS' followed suit pretty quickly.

    • @sofianeraouia7657
      @sofianeraouia7657 4 роки тому +5

      Nah it's when windows 8 came out back in 2012 the windows logo became flat

  • @strideryourself
    @strideryourself 5 років тому +405

    I remember when the UA-cam icon was a tv 📺

    • @A0pplePapple
      @A0pplePapple 5 років тому +13

      same
      great youtube times

    • @omk5222
      @omk5222 5 років тому +6

      #OG

    • @aware5358
      @aware5358 5 років тому +11

      Lucybean123 Jskjd
      I still have the OG UA-cam app on my old 2010 iPad (I forgot the model.)

    • @unluckyy8746
      @unluckyy8746 5 років тому +3

      Sameee, I also remember the old menu at the bottom of the screen and how you could edit what was on there, like you could add favorites back there and stuff... Good times!

    • @spooky961
      @spooky961 5 років тому +1

      A0pplePilot same

  • @iwantedtobethatanomaly2270
    @iwantedtobethatanomaly2270 2 роки тому +2

    I miss the old logos and icons. They're weirdly nostalgic and have this charm in them

  • @melaniesalphabetgirl
    @melaniesalphabetgirl 4 роки тому +7

    I remember when Instagram changed its logo and entire feed designs, everyone I knew was sooo pissed, but now we love it 😂

  • @haydenf4562
    @haydenf4562 5 років тому +159

    “Logos were going 3D”
    Proceeds to show two 2d Burger King logos

    • @csmemarketing
      @csmemarketing 4 роки тому +10

      I actually got what they meant, although this video does seem lazily researched. The 2nd BK logo was kind of 3d with the Shine on it. But it had no shadow, so it wasn't 3D.
      So, yeah...it's still flat.

    • @glassowlie
      @glassowlie 2 роки тому

      @@csmemarketing That's just more detail, not 3D

  • @OLBastholm
    @OLBastholm 5 років тому +877

    Wow that was a really bad and oversimplified explanation.

    • @lucy-bs9cx
      @lucy-bs9cx 5 років тому +28

      OLBastholm yeah because it’s trying to be 2d....

    • @bakeryssoul
      @bakeryssoul 5 років тому +9

      Glad to know I'm not the only one who is confused by the video's structure

    • @deviltari8638
      @deviltari8638 5 років тому +1

      Sir. Fox haha me too, I wanna know

    • @Mulazzx
      @Mulazzx 5 років тому +1

      I’m confused too

  • @lynnlooi5346
    @lynnlooi5346 2 роки тому +13

    I’ll be honest, I never liked the 3D logos or the ‘glossy feels’ on apps. Although it looks cool and all, it made me feel uncomfortable after seeing it for an entire day. After everything was changed to 2D designs, I find myself staring at the phone more often. Let it be scrolling the social media’s, or just blanking staring at the home screen apps for nothing, I can’t help but kept admiring how ‘pretty’ it looks. Lol I’m so weird.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 роки тому +3

    1:20 That’s not CGI, that’s claymation.

  • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
    @user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 років тому +657

    Actually, it wasn't iOS 7 (2013); Microsoft started the shift to a flat, minimal look with their "Metro" apps in Windows 8 (2012).

    • @DavidNightjet
      @DavidNightjet 5 років тому +82

      Even earlier, actually. That started with the first release of Windows Phone 7, back in 2010.

    • @annekedebruyn7797
      @annekedebruyn7797 5 років тому +62

      Editors dont go past Apple so how would they know? /s
      Arguably it was web design itself that changed before any device really.

    • @juanpenagos
      @juanpenagos 5 років тому +23

      Totally agree. Too much credit to Apple when other great designers and companies were exploring 2D and flat designs before they made the switch. However a good and informative video.

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 5 років тому +15

      Logo design, typography and iconography in general was shifting to a flat design starting with the late 2000s to the early 2010s. Windows Phone and Ubuntu introduced a flat design in 2010, then Windows 8 in 2012. The UI for the XBox operating system also shifted to flat around 2010-2011. If anything Microsoft were the prime mover, not Apple.
      Google introduced the flat design in 2013 in their web apps and in their guidelines for Material Design a couple of months before iOS 7, when some Google web services like Gmail and UA-cam were already sporting a cleaner and flatter look as early as 2011.

    • @davidwave4
      @davidwave4 5 років тому +9

      Hell, the Zune software was flat and non-skeuomorphic all the way back in 2007. Microsoft had style guides for flat design while Apple was still pushing skeuomorphism as the only way to design touch interfaces.

  • @MrSorbias
    @MrSorbias 5 років тому +81

    As a 3D artist I love flat design. But I used to speak a lot of skeuomorphism few years ago, because I was working as graphics designer and flat design is so boring to do. It's funny to draw all of those little reflections, bevels and stuff. But then in the other hand, flat design is more practical.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 5 років тому +4

      No, it's really not. I recently moved to Linux and the default look for the distro was a flat one and I kept having trouble finding the minimise/maximise/close and taskbar buttons. Changed it to something with a bit of shading and WOW! Massive improvement. Firefox had a similar problem, but a trip to Reddit to ask about some way to customise it to give something non-flat turned up Firefox CSS, which just with the defaults works wonders for telling the difference between tabs in my very, very, very long list of them.
      Seriously, don't skimp on shading your interfaces. Leave the flatness to the content.

    • @MrSorbias
      @MrSorbias 5 років тому +1

      That's good point. I think it would be good to find balance with these 2 things. But I myself don't think for example the burger king logo to be very skeuomorphic, even when it was being used as an example in the video. There is cell shading reflections, true, but not any textures or realistic sharing.
      But what comes to GUI:s, I think functionality always is the main purpose. So the faster we understand what some button is supposed to be doing, the better it is. If some reflection / bevel makes the process in some cases faster, then I think we should use those.

    • @vishikha.tripathi
      @vishikha.tripathi 5 років тому

      The shortest comment around

  • @beaendaya2747
    @beaendaya2747 3 роки тому +2

    these are things I never would have imagined and yet i'm intrigued

  • @Mister__Jey
    @Mister__Jey 2 роки тому +4

    A little memory when Apple simplified its logos, there was quite a backlash. People didn't like it at all and said it looks like a kid designed it or it was made for kids. Unfortunately, the criticism quickly falls silent or Apple just didn't listen, as Apple always does when criticism comes. And unfortunately that then prevailed. Because Apple is trend setter and everyone else is following suit.
    I don't remember which iOS version it was, but it was definitely a big new version that brought it with it via simplified logos.

  • @mikalmadlove
    @mikalmadlove 5 років тому +399

    This whole video distorts the history of design. For anyone who cares about it, they should be really offended by videos like this.

    • @razzvyberry4694
      @razzvyberry4694 5 років тому +15

      Where can I find more accurate information?

    • @carlitos9155
      @carlitos9155 5 років тому +6

      mikalmadlove offended? Ok buddy

    • @essem4979
      @essem4979 5 років тому +2

      This video is the only opinion I've ever read about this topic, nobody can explain otherwise in the comments, so it's true for me

    • @bachmai1844
      @bachmai1844 5 років тому

      Samuelx01 so go read more?

    • @mranon5921
      @mranon5921 5 років тому +4

      They even said Adobe indesign and photoshop when graphic design for things like logos was always Adobe illustrator because its a vector platform smh

  • @TaranVH
    @TaranVH 5 років тому +748

    I can see a lot of amateur mistakes and weird things with this video. Not just the editing and animation, but the writing, too. Probably even the research wasn't all that thorough, either.
    It's like it's imitating a style without fully understanding it. Imitating Vox, possibly.
    Little things, like having twice the click sounds when dragging a file to the trash can... Over reliance on lord privy seals... pointless cutaways to reaction shots or movie clips. And dozens of other small things done "wrong" that most people won't notice overtly, but can still rub them the wrong way... But I noticed. It is my job, after all.

    • @noa_1104
      @noa_1104 5 років тому +23

      Taran Van Hemert This is the best comment pointing out these things I've seen here so far (but thankfully also not the only one)

    • @luciferbaphomet5310
      @luciferbaphomet5310 5 років тому +17

      Salute you sir, you provide constructive criticism that UA-cam needs more of. Keep doing God’s work

    • @armanke13
      @armanke13 5 років тому +3

      Show them how to do it Taran! So they can understand the right thing to do..

    • @tristanburditt8317
      @tristanburditt8317 5 років тому

      Hey taran how is the next ltt vid going?

    • @iKingRPG
      @iKingRPG 5 років тому

      Hi Taran you should make a video to show everything wrong with this please I will enjoy it.

  • @nicholasgawler-collins5754
    @nicholasgawler-collins5754 3 роки тому +4

    I feel that Windows pulled off skeuomorphism the best.
    Apple tried to condense the logos into squares, which looked weird, especially with the more realistic icons.
    Windows went with icons which represented objects and appliances that pull off similar functions to what the applications themselves did. They looked better and were a little easier to recognise.

  • @jasonwilbert
    @jasonwilbert 3 роки тому +2

    Remember the times when you need to scroll down to see the UA-cam comments?

  • @jhngrc_
    @jhngrc_ 5 років тому +285

    No no no no. Windows Phone's Metro UI started the trend back to 2D and clean interfaces.

    • @jkc4147
      @jkc4147 5 років тому +2

      Exactly. That's what I was thinking. Windows Phone UI already have that look long before the new iOS look started. Now whenever a new website/page etc changes their design to a flatter minimalistic one. It always remind me of Windows UI.

    • @mario123m
      @mario123m 5 років тому +5

      Too bad Windows Phone is now dead and no one cares.

    • @dennisvansoest134
      @dennisvansoest134 5 років тому +2

      And now Microsoft is turning back to 3D again in their new Office icons

    • @__init__3493
      @__init__3493 5 років тому +2

      Microsoft actually used the Metro UI first in the Zune, which looked absolutely amazing if you ask me

  • @finalstation
    @finalstation 5 років тому +184

    No mention of windows 8 the first major OS to release a clean flat design? 👀 Also pretty sure the zune had it back in the middle of the 00s.

    • @poopcock4357
      @poopcock4357 5 років тому +6

      windows 8? clean?! 🤨

    • @White_Recluse
      @White_Recluse 5 років тому +7

      Jose Loyola nobody knows what zune is, therefore nobody cared

    • @finalstation
      @finalstation 5 років тому +10

      White Recluse the people who were into graphic design and user interface noticed. Microsoft exported it to Xbox and windows. Google and apple noticed I’m sure.

  • @auditeerie
    @auditeerie 3 роки тому +4

    Bruh when I saw the old instagram logo
    That frickin hit me

  • @MicahRion
    @MicahRion 3 роки тому

    When you showed those old icons at 2:41 I got this huge rush of nostalgia wow! I had all those apps on my iPod touch as a preteen and since they changed slowly over time I completely forgot these!
    I think it’s interesting how the old UA-cam icon was a TV. 📺 And at that time people used to name their UA-cam channels their name and tag TV on the end, like they were creating their own tv show. I see how we don’t do that anymore because we’re comfortable with online video as a medium. We don’t necessarily compare it against tv.

  • @lolow313
    @lolow313 5 років тому +56

    The shift towards 2D logos actually started with Microsoft when they released Windows 8. You know, the computer OS used by an estimated of 70% PC users as of 2016.

    • @Tasso-d2
      @Tasso-d2 5 років тому +3

      Windows 8 was used by 7.1% of the total pc users, NICE TRY THO KEEP IT UP.

    • @lolow313
      @lolow313 5 років тому +6

      Tasso no, IT IS USED BY 7.1% of pc users. ITS NOT USED AS MUCH NOW AS WINDOWS 10 IS NOW USED MORE

    • @Marijanus
      @Marijanus 4 роки тому +2

      What idiot would use windows 8? Compared to 7, it is utter garbage

    • @GHENIC
      @GHENIC 4 роки тому

      @@Marijanus that is not the point. 70% used windows 8 at the time but now nearly nobody uses it
      there is a difference yknow between past tense and present tense
      also stop necroposting - the discussion ended 4 months ago

  • @SarimAshrafi
    @SarimAshrafi 4 роки тому +437

    I think Microsoft was the first to introduce the 2D flat design in Windows 8.

    • @emperorfaiz
      @emperorfaiz 4 роки тому +55

      Way earlier than that. Microsoft Zune is one example.

    • @thespicehoarder
      @thespicehoarder 4 роки тому +17

      Yes, windows 8 was quicker to implement flat UI than Apple's ios

    • @wesleythompson451
      @wesleythompson451 4 роки тому +5

      Microsoft certainly did implement flat design into windows 8 before other people implemented flat design into windows 8. You're right.

    • @bullet01l30
      @bullet01l30 3 роки тому +4

      @@thespicehoarder because apple didnt like 2d

    • @bigbio8816
      @bigbio8816 3 роки тому +5

      In 2012 IOS revealed ios 7 and apple showed the news to everyone. In 2013 windows 8 was revealed.

  • @user-ug4ow1qq2h
    @user-ug4ow1qq2h 4 роки тому +23

    I wonder how people who get confused by 3D icons live in the real world...

    • @gabrielsalles8403
      @gabrielsalles8403 3 роки тому +3

      The shadowing and textures are just exaggerated and fake looking in the icons

    • @user-dl3vn8ze9n
      @user-dl3vn8ze9n 3 роки тому +3

      @@gabrielsalles8403 Yeah. That's why I like the 2D better. Shade right or not at all.

  • @makaylahammonds1253
    @makaylahammonds1253 2 роки тому +4

    The “hamburger menu” she’s speaking of is the three horizontal lines that symbolizes an option menu on the screen. Those lines are called a hamburger menu, which aren’t available in the physical word.

    • @aldrakyrzodarr6678
      @aldrakyrzodarr6678 2 роки тому

      It never crossed my mind that it would look like a hamburger. It's doesn't. It rather looks like a few lines of text (a list, of options e.g.)

  • @purplefire2834
    @purplefire2834 4 роки тому +227

    4:34 "A simple vector design can be expanded/shrunk easily"
    Yeah, and so can any vector design, regardless of whether the design is flat or not.

    • @Porphey
      @Porphey 4 роки тому +8

      Isn't it much more difficult to make vector 3d design than raster one?

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому +19

      ah not really, 3D vector graphics look trash as all hell
      u cant really do vector 3D unless u want it to look like new age picasso....
      mostly because shading is a huge part in 3D and shading *cannot* be vectorized
      thats just not in the cards for svg tech
      they only really make sense as simplistic 2D images
      no shading, no intricate design, simple everything
      thats what it needs to vectorize
      not even anime can be vectorized properly
      _and its already 2D with basic designs_

    • @jameswalker199
      @jameswalker199 4 роки тому +5

      八神こう
      Have you seen the example on Inkscape's website? Yeah, maybe its not photorealistic, but its certainly not steamrolled BS

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому +6

      @@jameswalker199 as someone who has worked in design
      I would probably never actually use vector and 3D
      not unless the 3D vectorization style is part of ur design aesthetic
      because I dont think they are good enough yet
      I have pretty high standards in icon design
      because the psychology of iconography would suggest it otherwise makes ur project feel cheap
      even the difference of 3D between .png and vector can make a project feel cheaper to a user
      even in cases where the difference is only slight
      getting icons right is very important to user experience
      if i was going to do 3D I would probably use something else
      depends on the look i was going for
      as vector does work ok, for some 3D
      just not enough, for me to use it
      and they are generally trashy to me
      as a programmer thoe
      I know a way the vector process, could....
      be modified do make 3D images properly
      I think the process could be automated well with some colour theory code
      so with the right tweaks, u should be able to draw 3D perfectly fine
      so while I would not use vectors for 3D rn
      I suspect in the future vector will be the best choice for all icons in all styles

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff 4 роки тому +1

      You can still do 3D designs in vector, and I wouldn't be surprised if iPhone's 3D icons were vector (but might as likely have been raster as well). Making a natural scene or a human or animal look photo realistic will be hard in vector. But making a clean design like it's a product showcase, is certainly much easier. But it does require more effort, of course.

  • @DD7MD7
    @DD7MD7 4 роки тому +658

    First of all, it's called "iPod Touch", not "iTouch"
    Secondly, Microsoft started the 2D Trend with Windows Phone 7 in 2010. iOS 7 came out three years later

    • @jeromesnail
      @jeromesnail 4 роки тому +61

      I know right?
      I cringe when she said that.

    • @jedimmj11
      @jedimmj11 4 роки тому +24

      THIS. Just came across this channel, watched this and the foot and knee videos, have come to the conclusion that it is terrible and won't be watching any more videos

    • @mikosoft
      @mikosoft 4 роки тому +17

      It's America, entrenched in Apple.

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff 4 роки тому +42

      @@mikosoft yes, they make their videos like USA is the only country in existence and ignore their international audience. In several videos, they speak in very general terms, but only consider USA. It's very awkward for someone not from USA.

    • @mikosoft
      @mikosoft 4 роки тому +9

      @Bangbabangbabangbang fun fact for ya: I had 7 Nokia smartphones, 4 with Symbian and 3 with Windows. Windows on phones had more than 10% market share in selected markets, it had around 4% market share in the best months which at the time was 1/3 of what Apple had and it was rising. No wonder Apple saw it as a possible threat.

  • @donathan2933
    @donathan2933 2 роки тому +2

    The 3D logos had such a unique and creative design. The mid to late 2000s and early 2010 logos will always beat the modern logod

  • @mysaria7641
    @mysaria7641 4 роки тому

    Very interesting concept. I always wondered this in the back of my mind

  • @MarkusLegner
    @MarkusLegner 4 роки тому +335

    Actually, "flat design" was first introduced by Windowsphones.

    • @XzaroX
      @XzaroX 4 роки тому +12

      And now it's dead thank goodness. Microsoft is going back to colourful icons again.

    • @Wina_Wina
      @Wina_Wina 4 роки тому +3

      @@XzaroX where did you get the news?

    • @XzaroX
      @XzaroX 4 роки тому +7

      @@Wina_Wina Have you not noticed Office 2019 and some standard store apps have already gained them? If not, have a read here. medium.com/microsoft-design/the-ripple-effect-expanding-our-icon-design-system-74b4d916b7a4

    • @jameswalker199
      @jameswalker199 4 роки тому +6

      Very true, but then again I can count on the fingers of one hand how many people I've met that used a windows phone (its two) so I wouldn't expect that to be a well known fact.

    • @JorgePille
      @JorgePille 4 роки тому +24

      The metro design was definitely more influential than it'll ever get credit for. Windows 8 was released in October of 2012 with metro design, and then Android and Apple followed the flat graphics trend. I loved my windows phone's clean design aesthetic for sure!

  • @tarcal87
    @tarcal87 5 років тому +163

    1:15 _"With the 1970s came CGI, and from there logo started to come to life"_
    Shows MTV bit that is neither a logo nor CGI as it's stop-motion plasticine physical technique with nothing computer generated

    • @dominicpascal5512
      @dominicpascal5512 5 років тому +12

      it was neither 70s, nor cgi, right. But that was the MTV logo in an animated form, even three dimensional.

  • @sirforcer
    @sirforcer 2 роки тому +2

    This is a bit misleading, Skumorphism isn't necessarily about 2d vs 3d, it's about mimicking real life things. When you take a picture on your phone and it makes a click, that's audio skewmorphism mimicking a camera shutter, and the Instagram logo now is skewmorphism of a camera lense, even though it's 2d. Looking at my phone right now, I can also see a battery icon showing my charge (mimicking a real battery) and an alarm clock icon (mimicking an old analog clock with bells on it). Skewmorphism isn't dead, it's just used in a different way.

  • @skidhvh
    @skidhvh 3 роки тому +6

    im missing times when Instagram got actually cool logo

  • @anonymousstout4759
    @anonymousstout4759 4 роки тому +436

    "Almost everything"
    Shows only Instagram, Pinterest, and Skype logo

    • @msi4887
      @msi4887 4 роки тому +7

      he is right tho

    • @smithydll
      @smithydll 4 роки тому +8

      Skype logo is part of Microsoft design language which went Flat as part of Metro in Windows 8 which was released before iOS 7 was even beta. What that means is design industry was probably already trending towards flat anyway.

    • @csmemarketing
      @csmemarketing 4 роки тому +4

      @Fmono • 39 years ago • edited When IG redesigned their logo with that rainbow gradient, it seems like they were pandering to lgbt at the time. Now, I'm used to it, but I hardly ever use Gradients in Logos anymore, unless it's very, very subtle.

    • @rainissance
      @rainissance 4 роки тому +3

      csmemarketing PANDERING TO LGBT BWHAHAHAHAHA

    • @louisratatoulielinson
      @louisratatoulielinson 4 роки тому +1

      You want her to show every logo that exist?

  • @JoelIvoryJohnson
    @JoelIvoryJohnson 5 років тому +98

    My inner nerd cringes at hearing "iTouch." lol.

    • @draga_
      @draga_ 4 роки тому

      Ok apple fan

  • @yunggoth9713
    @yunggoth9713 2 роки тому +1

    I distinctly remember when ios7 was released. I was a freshman in high school and everyone was talking about it. No other update was as significant imo.

  • @Mr.Tom_69
    @Mr.Tom_69 4 роки тому +5

    "App logos in Phone goes 3D to 2D"
    Me: *install 3D theme application* 😏

  • @NOVAFrederick
    @NOVAFrederick 5 років тому +651

    I sorta miss some of those 3D logos, some icons these days look so lazy and is nothing more than a bunch of lines

    • @doom5895
      @doom5895 5 років тому +20

      NOVA ikr the same goes for win7 like why switch from areo to metro? That makes 0 sense

    • @gagne6928
      @gagne6928 5 років тому +51

      IDK I like minimalist stuff, so personally, I like 2d logos more

    • @abyssstrider2547
      @abyssstrider2547 5 років тому +5

      @@gagne6928 What? You have to be messing with me!

    • @mayonnaiz-7990
      @mayonnaiz-7990 5 років тому +28

      Seriously all the modern flat logos have only one color and some bland white outline. Some times they throw in a gradient to spice it up but it still ends up looking lame

    • @hryank33
      @hryank33 5 років тому +22

      The instagram 2d logo looks terrible. I like the 3d logos on ios6.
      Kinda missed it actually, I was forced to update because the apps I used were no longer supported in ios6.

  • @dk0767
    @dk0767 5 років тому +216

    Pseudo 3-D and skeuomorphism are totally two different things

    • @usbhub95
      @usbhub95 5 років тому +3

      is that a sarcastic remark or did you mean "two totally different things"

    • @dk0767
      @dk0767 5 років тому +8

      I meant it seriously. They are indeed different.

    • @cc-gx8hr
      @cc-gx8hr 4 роки тому +4

      I think they were tryna make the point that it’s easier to make simple 2D icons that aren’t skeuomorphic so when 2D ones become popular 3D skeuomorphic ones fell out of style

    • @juicyjuicethejuice4451
      @juicyjuicethejuice4451 4 роки тому

      @@kxngstun463 Why dont you?

  • @randyreynolds4252
    @randyreynolds4252 3 роки тому +1

    as an artist that has been working as a graphic designer I seen this happening but I really believe it has more to do with the fact that most graphic designers with a degree are not artist. They go to school and are all taught the same dame thing and all do it the same dam way and when I show them real world techniques they are mind blown. I loath the simple logos

  • @happysmash27
    @happysmash27 3 роки тому +1

    I liked the more 3D icons, personally, and wish there were more icon packs today which use that older style.

  • @choiwaynekiet
    @choiwaynekiet 5 років тому +398

    Did you call the iPod touch iTouch. Wow! iTouch is not what the product is called.

    • @SuperCoalBlox
      @SuperCoalBlox 5 років тому +11

      Wayne Choi they’re uncultured

    • @juantelle1
      @juantelle1 5 років тому +7

      Yeah.. that among other things made me click the "unlike" button

    • @brynmcdougald2418
      @brynmcdougald2418 5 років тому +18

      It was just a oversimplified video with lots of errors

    • @marunomi
      @marunomi 5 років тому +2

      @@juantelle1 Dislike button.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      Nobody buy iPod touch.

  • @amayasnep
    @amayasnep 5 років тому +453

    Still hate Instagram’s color choice for their iOS icon.

    • @ripjawfang20
      @ripjawfang20 5 років тому +9

      Alcatraz 》 Not sure if this is correct but I think what apple means by “innovation” is by making it mainstream

    • @oppai454
      @oppai454 5 років тому +60

      that purple/orange gradient vomit is still an eye sore to me. they couldve just made the instagram logo flat but with the familiar colors of the old icon. i saw something like that on someone's galaxy phone several years back and it looked good!

    • @danielsnoopeh1807
      @danielsnoopeh1807 5 років тому +11

      @Alcatraz 》 Its not about who was first but who has the power to change the industry.
      Apple never invented the need of wireless headphones but with the removal of the headphone jack they set a direction and the industry followed it.

    • @rrrr2150
      @rrrr2150 5 років тому +9

      Daniel Snoopeh exactly what i’ve been saying. everyone seems to be mad when someone says apple sets the trend

    • @LeandroFTW
      @LeandroFTW 5 років тому +2

      You can change your icons on Android.

  • @catfdljws
    @catfdljws 2 роки тому

    One thing that also changed is the nature of the screens. The 3-D look didn't start with the flatscreens of the iPhone and color Palm pilots. It started back in the early 90s with Sun's OpenLook and OSF/Motif for Unix systems, the latter to which Microsoft contributed to and then brought back to its Windows 3.0 look & feel. As noted, screen size helped. These were the first to start having 1000pixel screens so there was space for the shadows. Also there was the nature of the giant CRT screen - you could imagine 3-D because the screen was deep. The metaphor matched the mechanisms.
    But that really lost sway when not only were phones flat, but even more so when laptops gained in popularity and even desktops started getting flat monitors. The 3-D depth seems 'artificial' on a flat screen laptop, so when more desktop/laptop systems were going flat, that had an influence as well in changing Windows, changing the direction of Linux desktop systems, and a massive influence on the browsers framing, which then had an influence on the pages viewed within it. Yeah, Apple was a big force, but not the only one. Flat screens were going to lead to this eventually, just because the metaphor no longer was needed even when dealing with a mouse and keyboard.
    Material Design was an attempt to find a layered approach - still keeping ideas of depth while not seeming 'deep', using the simpler box-shadows approach rather than the beveled look.

  • @mikala2088
    @mikala2088 3 роки тому +3

    Ahh only the few in this world care enough about skeuomorphic design to search it on youtube. I hate minimalism. There’s a lot of logos that I miss but I also understand why some had to be simplified

  • @eiolenimea
    @eiolenimea 5 років тому +67

    1:47 talking about skeuomorphism but the animation is about responsive design...

    • @key37raminus
      @key37raminus 5 років тому +1

      YEEEEEEEESSSSSDSSSSS

    • @daaishifeeling
      @daaishifeeling 5 років тому +2

      i was thinking the same thing, i was like what does this have to do with skeuomorphism

  • @blackkissi
    @blackkissi 5 років тому +72

    3:10 "When you go flat, you are no longer tied to the physical world."
    Take that, flat earthers

    • @bruh-dj5uo
      @bruh-dj5uo 5 років тому

      Umm the world is flat because I say so

    • @ash._.es_._
      @ash._.es_._ 5 років тому +3

      The world is a cube. It’s been proven by Abe Lincoln in 1953.

  • @xjoqnxgd5507
    @xjoqnxgd5507 4 роки тому +2

    1:01 Best logo ever

  • @rejectedideas1827
    @rejectedideas1827 3 роки тому +8

    "And we woke up to a flat world"
    Careful there ma'am, thin ice