Q TIP: LABELS TURNED DOWN "MEGAN THE STALLION" OVER SOCIAL MEDIA NUMBERS???.... DUMMIES!!!
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The fact that a record executive would have the arrogance, ignorance, and balls to tell Qtip no about judging talent tells you everything you need to know about the people who run the music industry.
Agreed!!! Please share the vid
Prodigy himself said that Q Tip helped get them their 1st deal
Megan Thee Stallion was never nice. I have no idea why Tip was cosigning her. She doesn't spit crazy. Hasn't made a singe DOPE song. Just a cute girl on the internet.
@@tochiRTA lies
@@tochiRTA You buggin'. You may not like her style, but she can spit when she wants to. Just say that you haven't heard anything that impressed you. I'm not saying she's a super lyricist but she's better than the average commercial rappers.
Tip had Meg….wow!!!!! I love how positive he speaks about her and her mom ❤️
Well It makes me the happiest to know that Q Tip Rubs it in the face of those record executive's for passing on Megan
😂😂😂 didn’t think he was that normal
Artist development at labels has been depleted. These labels don't want to put in the work to develop an artist. They want who's hot at the moment and cash out. Once they're done, they're on to the next one who's hot.
No...they only want to develop untouched raw talent that they see fits in to the business agenda that will cooperate. The amount of talent available is endless. There's only two sides of the coin. There has never been but two sides...The other is I'm ready to do business and don't need development but distribution and a broader reach. If you don't know how the industrial prison complex plays in to it, do the research and you will see clearly the agenda beyond the music...you have the staples and the snacks...the staples are main course...the snack ties you over...
@terry tarver. The agenda only relies on how many streams an artist has on Spotify. If they are not in the millions, they don't want to talk to you. The other plan is that they want you to have a certain sound like another artist who's hot. I had a meeting with an A&R one time and his first question was if my artist does music like Drake.
And what they don’t understand is there’s way more money in developing artists that could have longevity in the game rather than keeping a revolving door of artists smh
@@pocketace22 uh.... That's business.... There's too much talent for a major label to NEED anyone.... They are no different than any investor in anything. I'm not investing in uncertainty. If your cooking, I can give you a bigger stove... If you ain't even got the stove, what do you want from me unless you have undeniable talent?...as far as sounds, that's just the way it is... Motown has a sound... The reality is it ain't no different than a regular job... If you already nice, they wanna fuck wit you. If you have no experience, you get the same treatment... You can have a great ethic and no experience and sell yourself short $2 on the hour... You get what you negotiate.
The way Math has pivoted into this UA-camr Podcaster interviewer lane is beautiful. The man is on his way to building a Millon Dollar platform.
One way or another he was gon get rich off rap. Slow grind is beautiful.
Yup, fast money ain't always good money.
Yall held that Meghan story till the end and damn it was worth it.
Right cuz I hit rewind like 5 times
Analytics fucking up everything as usual smh. This clip is 🔥.
Analytics have never phucked anything up. Its dummies who dont know how to actually find and develop talent... Choosing analytics that phucks ish up.
T.E.D where they talking about the analytics is designed to be bias or racist
True, no one is willing to observe the human aspect of what makes someone great. They're trying to take all the humanity out of business like people don't matter.
"The thing that men and women need to do is stick together...progressions cant be made if we're separate forever" - Q Tip (Verses From The Abstract 1991)
Og yes
Q-Tip ‘discovered’ Megan Thee Stallion… WOW❗️❗️❗️
And record execs ‘knew’ better than a living legend…
It’s official… The co-sign is no longer in full-effect… 🤦🏾♂️
Who's your A&R? A rock climber that plays an electric guitar?
He don't know the meaning of dope. When looking for suit and tie rap that's cleaner than a bar of soap.
@217 Nevada Street The first thing I think of whenever I hear stories like these lol. That and of course (ironically) Tip with industry rule #4080...
😂😂😂😂
Mountain climber
@@dawb86 coincidentally not 'ironically.'
Do you know what could have happen if Megan would have been with Q-Tip! Dummy Execs!
Like Fat Joe says, "YESTERDAYS PRICE IS NOT TODAYS PRICE." I have seen every episode and they are only getting better
facts
QTIP IS AN ICON What a great opportunity for Math To have QTIP on his show.
Congratulations Math 👏
Thats right, it takes the time and things Q Tip has done to attain a title they are trying to give Drake right now.
@@bruceleeds7988 man what?! Tf drake got to do with anything lmao
Icon means idol God doesn't approve idol worship just like information words mean more his a great artist!
The co sign is dead because we are living in the "look at me" culture right now. Everyone is scrambling for attention and relivancy. Nobody wants to be "behind the scenes" or "low key". Even certified celebrities are doing "extra" ish for attention.
Every time Math looks at the camera where someone says something crazy. LOL.
I remember when that cypher came out in like 2016/2017 she didn’t blow till like really 2019, it was a slow burn but worth it, she put the work in. And the pen game is solid. Even if she raps about sex, her wordplay is crazy. The mainstream pop stuff is good money though so I don’t blame her.
The fact that Q-tip had Megan and now she's what she is now? Dammit
He (Qtip) even TELLS stories better than most ppl . He had suspense and all of that 🔥💕🐺
Word. Some folks are just born with it.
Dreads dude be speaking out his as$ because the ogs ego is large too and when the young artist get bigger they want to work with them n when young dude say no they feel slighted
Need this whole view ASAP
I love q tip so much more now.... He jus love dope Muzik n not bias by his coast, he embraced a southern artist n tryed to put dem on n respect megan as a lyricist
Factory
Regardless of the title, QTip setup that story nice. 🤘🏾❤
Somehow the way he told it I was STILL surprised at the end lol...
I was surprised too cuz I got lost in the story I forgot what the title said
This podcast went from great to GOAT overnight! Math & THE ABSTRACT 🔥🔥🔥✊🏾
Big fax. Know I'm here for it
Real shit 💯 I thought how many vids I watched the past couple days now that u mentioned it
Tip also co-signed Mobb Deep and helped produce Their CLASSIC 2nd album 💿
They passed up MEGAN THEE STALLION??? Wow what a story
All them labels played themselves for not signing Megan 😂
1st class ride to L topia 😭 the lvl of regret they are living with has to be eating at them from time to time when he sends them something of Meg 😂😂
Facts💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
Facts💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
Going off numbers has its place. There are times when that needs to take a back seat. Really negligent when you don't defer to someone with expertise and reputation in their field.
I agree! Human expertise, cultural insight, and great instincts will always the best indicators in my opinion.
Damn, if Q-Tip who cosigned a once a generational talent like J-Dilla, and can't get Megan on a similar plain with the record labels. What made me thought I was able to cosigned an actor back in 2014 to be work on a film project that I had a connect to.
I was telling the writer/producer that this actor could be a great part of the film project, and the writer/producer was like, "What can he bring to the table?" I said, his talent, his rap writing skills, he is up and coming with his name buzzing the industry that could bring interest to investors. Long story short, I tried few more times to pitched whenever this actor was getting some shine and landing roles. My cosigned and pitches have no legs because I was a no body. Unlike Tip here who have been around the block, the arrogance and ignorance of them all.
And, if you read this far on my comment and wonder who this actor I was trying to pitched, you might know him, LaKeith Stanfield. So, it's not only record industry, probably entertainment in general with all these goofies who run it.
That’s with anything tho: a person can do the job and bring everything that they’re looking for, and get passed over for the person who doesn’t have the quality. For example, the medical field.
@@sunshinesunflowerz1647 True that, we are dealing with “experts” that don’t know jack sometimes.
Thanks for sharing your story brother, yes I Indeed read the whole thing. Very wonderful actor
Your story reminds me of the time I took a friend of mine to a Talent agent I knew. I’d known this sista since she’d been a hostess in a crappy restaurant some how we stayed friends (cause I never asked her for anything) as she rose through the business. One day she invited me to a party she threw and I brought this actor who’d just been fired from a PUBLIC ACCESS SHOW!! Long story short she tells him that her friend was developing a show on HBO he’d be perfect for and she wanted them to meet. He was respectful but when he stepped away he (a brotha) pulled me to the side and told me not to bring him around this small time Chocolate 💩. That girls friend who was developing the show was Issa Raye and role she pitched him on was Lawrence.
@@terminatorx6230 wow 😮… yo son, damn
I think co-signs don’t work because there is no more artist development. Labels don’t seem to want to put an effort into building and artist
@RFM Recordings The consumer still likes quality but corporations are taking the humanity out of it and indoctrinating people to products they can reproduce like a production line.
They get a system, hook people to that system and just keep reproducing those analytics. Politicians do it by repeating propaganda often, then, people believe it's true. This is the new system now, numbers, data, screw humanity, give me my money.
I'll give you an easy example; Auto-Tune. They rode that sound to death.
Those record labels used rap as a “ Disposable Arts”! Basically rap artist were used like napkins, once your done with it and you can’t get value from it no more - toss it to the side and get a fresh new one! Wash,rinse, repeat!!
that's a fact! they never gave a fuck about the art
True, but that's all business in general.
@@LurnWell facts
S/O to Tribe. Rest In Power to Phife.... #QueensGetTheMoney
#QGTM
Math if you see this... So proud of you brother! These cultural convos are so important. So so so important, so many jewels, so much knowledge... Thank you! #Bless 💯
Imagine Meg the Stallion under the Q-Tip banner...
Yo Math got best talk show out I went back a watched all the old videos you are built for this I this is my era
Facts!💯 He definitely taking over the Hip hop podcast lane I'm always looking forward to these clips before the full interview, been a while since I look forward to anything online lol.
That Megan the stallion story is crazy
Damn that's crazy ..numbers over talent (supposedly)..
Cosigns don't weigh as heavy anymore, social media has watered the cosign down, because all you have to do is get a pic with a celeb and write a corny ass caption
Pretty much why Snitch9ine kept snapping pics with dudes left and right that hardly knew him earlier on lol...
Absolutely 💯
A major reason why the legends of the 90s don't get any backing from majors is bc they know the game and can't be manipulated like the youth
I get what math was saying, he didn’t really expound on it enough for Tip , but what I think Math was saying was, there’s a assembly line of rappers in the south that keep getting presented to the masses, gucci, future, yo gotti, young thug, lil baby, etc r constantly putting ppl on to the point where the south won’t fall off, cuz they always thinking ahead of the game and keep new fresh artist no matter what, while New York rappers that r in position aren’t quick to put other New York artists on
Thanks for clarifying cuz. I definitely ran it back to see if made the point
Same with the west coast. Everybody not from the south always calling conspiracy but in reality people mainly only be trying to get their artists and homeboys on. If Nick Cannon was thinking like 'if I can't sign her then I don't have time for her' we might have never had Kehlani's career. Same with MC Serch and Nas. If u doing it for the culture we should just be offering helping hands to all those we can because we recognize the talent and grind...
@@GeminiBrown fa aho
Yeah the example I always use is: De La Soul putting Mos Def on Stakes is High, but Mos Def has never put a new artist from NYC on any of his records. The chain of dope artists putting on dope artists got broken around 2000 or so, particularly in NYC
@@alanpage4075 I agree….
If you've never broken an artist, don't speak like dude in the middle did
I like this part of the conversation. I’ve met so many talented, hungry and humble artist that are standing at the door knocking and nobody opening the door. Many of these guys need proper artist development which doesn’t exist really anymore.
Love that meg story!! So real!
When Math look in the camera after Tip said she was Meg the Stallion 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol! Exactly!
The gentleman with the white t shirt and the locks, whats his name? I wanna hear more of him, hes is utterly intelligent and bring up amazing points.
Passed on her and now she has 3 grammys. I'm GLAD they passed on her b/c she wouldn't be who she is today.
This podcast is what the game is missing... keep ya 🥾 on the neck Math✊🏾
YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS GONNA BE THAT NEXT STAR. RECORD COMPANIES HAVE NEVER TRULY HAD THEIR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF HIP HOP ESPECIALLY WITH A COSIGN FROM OTHER INFLUENTIAL EMCEES🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
It was early 90’s and this was the first time Tribe called Quest came to Houston Texas. They was doing a show at this club that was by the Astrodome (forgot the name of the club). Me and my homeboy/DJ at time was blessed by IcyHOTT of (Street Military) to get us back stage. When we got back stage it was a lot of people standing around and chatting and you could hear Big Mellow(Houston rapper from Hiram Clarke) jump around and talking loud, He was excited…he just signed to Rap-A- Lot ….which was dope. So as I walked further back in this really big dressing room I seen a cipher going on. As I walked up a very well known and talented rapper that went by “Jonny Quest” at the time was rhyming and on the other side of the cipher bobbing his head was “Q-TIP”. So after JQ finished his rhyme and all the daps was giving for the tight verse, I ask Q-TIP can I rhyme for him and in a very humble manner he said yes. So I kick one of my rhymes. Q-TIP stood there…he didn’t bob his head or nothing, he just stood there and listened. When I finished everyone around was like “wow” and Q-TIP look in my eyes give me dip and told me that was dope as he and the other walked off (I guessed it was the end of the cipher lol) so a I stood there by my self I seen a couch behind me, so I sat down all by my self ….just chilling. Then here comes Q-TIP walking back over to me by his self and ask me “what your name, what you go by” I told him “KZ….KZ the THINKER” he said “thinker? as in T-H-I-N-K-E-R? (lol he spelled it out) I said yes and he give me the head nod of approval as he look back a me as he was being called to the stage. It was a fantastic show and I went home not thinking of the encounter. BUT HERE IS THE KICKER! Some months later a radio DJ told me that Q-TIP was looking for me, the radio DJ said he describe me and everything….I told DJ “stop bullshitting”….he said “naw man, he was really looking for you!” All could say was “wow”. To be put on by the Great Q-TIP would have been one the greatest dreams. So Q-TIP is a stand up guy and if he see the talent he would try to put you on. AND IM FROM HOUSTON TEXAS, so it was never where you was from. So all in all I end up getting signed to a local record label that knew nothing about the record business or what to do with us. We was too futuristic for the time that “Gangter Rap” was coming on strong. There was other major labels (Virgin, Sony) that was welling to sign us, but the local label would not let us go. I was locked in a bad record contract for decades. :(
But, here is one of two songs that the local label missed all up with the music and sound and put out(SMH oh well what can you do)…it was nice of these two people (I don’t know) to put copies of the record on youtube.
ua-cam.com/video/5xoq4QozBbk/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/kMOmrrQEDFU/v-deo.html
ps. if anyone read this and can get in touch with Q-TIP, could you please pass him my email.
fonkduplex@gmail.com
I would like to thank him
audius.co/kzthethinker
I'm actually liking these convos.
Happy 30th “Low End Theory”!
🔴⚫️🟢
Yes the title gave it away but the way Tip can set up a story and tell it. Woooo chile🥴 Megan is SPECIAL and anyone that appreciates real hip hop will appreciate her. Yes she twerks blah blah blah but absolutely no one can deny her pen game!!
Period!
Q-Tip ain't said no lies. Cats don't realize the average label exec is often not even a fan of the music they release. YOU are a product. They don't care if YOU sound good or BAD as long as YOU seem COMPARABLE to what is currently SELLING and are MARKETABLE on the CHEAP meaning YOU come with a sizeable fan base already that they can add to. 😒
The irony of them talking about the young guys feeling entitled while having a TOP TEN GOAT EMCEE in the studio and not letting him speak smh 🤦🏽♂️
This interview is real on all levels!!!!! The level of ENTITLEMENT that's coming these days is overwhelming
Q tried give em 6 rings they flatly refused they prolly wan dumb down something lol *Lupe reference*
Mecca just described the downfall of NY rap the self installed gatekeepers deciding who is worthy instead of helping they block.
Megan is such a beast on the mic, she is also incredible with the lyrical ability. And also the punchlines go by so fast, u don't even notice it.
I love Megan's style
Her new shit ain’t that great cause she gotta play by industry rules to get airtime but I remember them freestyles earlier on when she used to go in, she definitely got real talent...
@@dawb86 this is the reason why I didn’t like her going to the label where she’s at now. 1501 was perfect for her, both are up-and coming and she could be her raw creative self. 60/40 was a good deal that her mother and the legal rep negotiated for her.
She just needs better production
She’s a female juicy j
@@hiitsme3039 yeap
None of these girls right now text Megan in style right now bars for bars ain't no one's touching her right now
Q-TIP is "The Rap Sage"...."The Hip Hop Oracle".
Mecca talking too much with Q-Tip here. I want to hear Tip.... Not you Mecca.
Ny Artists don't own the labels like other regions. We are just realizing icons like De La Soul were in fucked up contracts. I think that is a big part of it. The other regions put themselves on and have more ability to co-sign due to more ownership.
master p changed the game he did it the right way
Humility….. Q-Tip owns it💯
Some talent is just blatant. You for real pass up on Megan Thee Stallion 🙄. Equivalent over these sides would be doing that to Little Simz. Big yourself up tho Math, really enjoying these interviews, very enjoyable.
People forget Qtip consigned Saigon, he put him in his current top 5 in the early 2000's
cosigned him hard. Conveniently didn't mention that LOL. Saigon was straight wack
Ppl?! Shoot Qtip forgot lol but yeah I def remember. Record companies and radio effed him up as well as some of his ego. Dope till this day tho.
@@tochiRTA your opinions are trash af lmao
So happy he said J dilla . The producer that is better than your favorite producer and responsible for a entire sound and careers
@Critique Everything ignore the troll under the bridge .
Hoffa! I fucks with you, but if you ain't fucking BUGGING on that last 2 generations blah, blah blah. 50 birthin-unit, cam birthed dopest, big birthed junior mafia, qtip birthed con n Dillard, n etc. You cant make a nigga talented to produce hit records. That's what battlerappers will never get until you get it! Salute!!!
Skills is lacking in the game its a shame
This is why Gucci mane is the goat 🐐…..cause he put mad niggaz on. He took young niggaz and gave them a chance. Still to this day 1017 running shit. How can you tell a up and coming artist he ain’t the next drake. As a artist your supposed to have that confidence in yourself. Somebody took a chance on y’all smh
Goes to show you how theses goofy’s put everything into social media views 🤦🏽😒
Q Tips story at the end proves how these mega distribution companies still want to take advantage of rappers.
Dre is unbeatable in a verzuz 💯🐐
cap
@C A Examples?
@@nastynate838 yeah Dre ain’t getting beat he has Kendrick snoop nwa Eminem and a lot of other record
The topic of emcees co-signing other artists had me thinking. Not gonna lie, Lox/J-Hood came to mind, but also a couple other examples (Sad b/c I shouldn't have to think so hard. Also, all of these are arguable) Dipet/Vado, Prodigy/Flee Lord, Busta Rhymes/Roc Marciano...
Q-TIP aka "The Abstract"
11:58 meghan thee stallion talk starts here👍🏾
Dope description of: the perpetual nature of the creative spirit!!!
Imagine how crazy Megs records would be if it had that tip/ummah influence! SMH industry stay fking up
Megan Thee Stallion is a star now. Funny how things come in full circle.
some stuff isn’t for everybody and it might be best for a lot of us to remain independent because nobody is going to believe in you like you believe in yourself.
no matter if you’re arrogant,
taking the right or wrong approach or whatever,
The facts are you have to believe in you and it’s hard to do when nobody else does but it’s worth it when your efforts catch fire.
The marketplace and your audience dictates your career..
.if they aint feeling your shit get back to the drawing board....
@@jman1562001 no doubt
Love this Convo!!
That's what Mc's are. That ego is what makes rappers! It isn't necessary to take artist thru shit because you've been thru shit aka gate keepers
Get mos def up their 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Think he still banned from the country
@@jonathanevans4422 he’s been back for a few years now.
@@ACE330 oh ok??? Then yes bring the God MC to MEO!!!
@@jonathanevans4422 dam joe why mos def get banned from the country?🤔
@@ACE330 do you know this answer 👆🏿? Don’t know why, I just know that he was 🤷🏿♂️
The music industry is ran by the privileged, so its better for artist to go independent like Master P did.
To be a little fair to the labels, artists are the main reason why the cosign is dead. How often have we seen prominent rappers put on their friends or associates instead of other dope artist. So many artist had rap crews filled with dudes that the labels never made a single dime from. Of course Q-tip is on a different level than most but I guarantee they thought he was fucking her. And the reason why labels trust the numbers is that they are by far the best predictors of success. No system has a 100% success rate so they will be some that they will miss on.
Wow 😳 Great story,, The morrow of the story is,, record labels we need to get back to looking at talent and not numbers 💯
J dilla is in a lane of his own... rest in paradise to the GOD
He was fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
He was fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yeah Ron Perry took a huge L on the Meg the Stallion deal smh literal bank vault.
same sneakers Q tip is wearing..i have two pairs! this is the most irrelevant comment i have made on this channel but i feel good.
Every time I’ve heard that dude with the white tee speak…. It’s like- he’s letting ppl that want to get into the industry know. And letting fans, know how the sht work.. appreciate that dude.
_If you guys could get all five members of Bone Thugs-N-Harmony up here, it would be lit_
I really hate maths watch 😫😫
Love Qtip he's the man 👞👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🌎
Almost certain, I heard Q-Tip had a role in Mobb Deeps ascension...
*Math Hoffa are you ready for this…*
*Native Tongues VERZUS Dungeon Family*
😮 not a bad idea
I think people co sign j Cole and Kendrick
Good thanks to the people behind scenes that's getting these interviews on here
Then correct the kid on that; if the approach is off and they're coming at ppl all wrong, let them know. Otherwise they're probably gonna think it's a locked door get resentful rather than it's the right door and they're using the wrong key (i.e. having the wrong attitude, wrong approach, marketing is off, grandiose swagger, etc.)
I know that this is a New York show, and some of y'all aren't fans of current artist . But Gucci Mane has put ALOT of rappers , or if did not put them on he did a tape with them before they blew (Migos, Young Thug, Pooh Shiesty, Scooter , Future, Young Dolph). But the Q-tip story is dope as hell . He seems that he is in tune with some of the current artist, remember him saying that he fuck with the Migos a while back.
I think what Math was trying to say is the South, West, North and even the Midwest has big artists that put on others. New Yorkers has stopped cosigning but manage to sometimes complain about the direction of music these days. Well if you put on ppl from your East coast cities then it’ll be a balance.
@@sknatheartist Yeah I think your right, I'm pretty sure he was saying that. It just Q-Tip went on to talk about Megan, so I was thinking maybe there talking about everywhere.
As for putting people on, New York doesn't do it as much as you stated, but Raekwon did it went Griselda. Me just being a fan of different regions and sounds, I listen to Griselda and much more underground artist. Objectively speaking I really feel the game is as balanced as ever. Griselda is making so much mainstream noise without trying to be.
@@razorsharp4ever yes griselda is holding it down for that sound, I appreciate them. The balance is definitely coming back, especially with ppl not needing labels anymore.
*look related to HOLLOW DA DON*
_My cousin got out of the rap industry because he became informed what’s really going on and this is back in the early 2000s rappers were joining the Boule or the Boule was coming after rappers_
Hip hop rule number 4,080, record label ppl r shady
Love this show man. Wish smart was on this one