the em c is wayyy better than a saturn pro. the static friction is pretty close to an artisan raiden while the dynamic one is higher/ mroe controlled than a saturn pro makes it a really superier mousepad to the saturn pro. the kurosun ninja speed is pretty much s slightly slower artisan raiden mid but in 50x50
Great review mang. I picked up the Kuroson Ninja and I really like it. Previously my most used pad was probably hayate otsu xsoft, but it just isn't feeling as consistent these days so I had been using a raiden xsoft until this arrived. Only my first day using it but it feels good so far, I was curious about the break in period so thanks for mentioning it!
great review. might take a look at the kurosun. how does the speed of the kurosun compare to the sv base control? i enjoy the performance of the sv base but the abrasiveness gets annoying at times.
much smoother than sv control and still a quick pad. the base isnt as firm as SV control but its firm enough to not get in the way like xsoft pads or traditional soft
Great reviews. Mine is arriving today. I main the vancer ice v2 and i am looking for a pad with a little more control, but still offers some control without hindering my micro aim. I look forward to seeing how this fairs
thanks, was just trying to decide between the saturn pro/emc/infinitymice pads, after 4 videos, this is the only video that address that (haus video has different results to aimadapt)
Great review. What I didn't like about the regular Saturn is that it was wayyyy too easy to initially move the mouse, making it just feel so sloppy to control the mouse. Artisan Zero Soft has been my main for 2 years now, but kinda want to switch things up. I'm fine with something a bit slower than the Zero, but don't want something that has lower initial friction (easier to start moving the mouse). How's this go in that category? I was also looking at the InfinityMice Infinite.
lemon i’ve been using the vancer ice v1 for about 3 months now maybe 2 and i really enjoy it but i feel like my hands are naturally shaky and want just the tiniest bit more of control not on dynamic just on the static i believe, i love freedom of movement and play apex which is tracking based but my hands are pretty shaky and even playing on a lower sense still feels shaky
I keep a Raiden XSoft in rotation for my main cloth speed. The zero in mid is decently quick but still controlled. This Ninja pad is probably replacing my Raiden for now
I don’t know if you’re replying to comments still but I’m a little torn I have like 9 inch hands and hybrid claw with my xm1r I’ve been wanting to upgrade but I can’t choose between the xmw2e, the Lamzu Atlantis mini 4K and the ninjutsu sora 4K watched like 30 review videos already can’t make a choice
hey quick question, do you play some competetive games where footsteps are important? how do you drive your shp9500 or do you use the devils for gaming? and if so do you use an amp/dac? if so , which are you using?
Mainly play OW2 so footsteps are less important than Valo/CS But I drive my SPH and the devil's using my ibasso dc03pro . It's a usb c dac/amp combo about $60-70. Super affordable and is really great performer. Plus it has an android app so you can adjust settings on it beyond volume.
Currently maining the Vaxee PA Black, the EM-C was tempting until I heard there is a large X and Y difference. Another pad that peaked my interest is the ESPTiger Feng Ling, can't seem to find it anywhere though. Anyone know how the Feng Ling compares to the PA Black in terms of speed?
The ninja sounds like a puretrak cl1 in this review. The classic puretrak always felt like a taut cloth surface to me. Would appreciate a comparison if possible, ty. Also hello fellow Florida Man!
mmm its not quite like that, but i see what your saying ! Ya i loved the CL1 classic, such a nice pad. I was hoping the p-51 mustang would be the pro variant but it just doesnt perform the same
can you review the kysonsa m600 wireless gaming mouse please, it has a 3395, viper mini shape but a bit higher, also very light and its 45$!! from aliexpress
@@UpgradeLemonadeuhh am I missing something what timestamp? I don't see one for "stitching" and I just rewatched from the kurosun section and didn't see/hear anything about the stitching
@@UpgradeLemonade just arrived, it gives me the feel like Ninjutsu Sora but in a different shape, maybe because they came from the same factory the 4k hz experience is stable but the stock feet is a a little bit slow
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going to miss your reviews ❤
Very very nice in-depth comparison of the surfaces at 3:50 till 4:00. Hope you implement that in your future videos as well. Nice job!
This video is great Lemonade. Perfectly in line with the experience that I am having with the pads :)
Thanks 👌
the em c is wayyy better than a saturn pro. the static friction is pretty close to an artisan raiden while the dynamic one is higher/ mroe controlled than a saturn pro makes it a really superier mousepad to the saturn pro. the kurosun ninja speed is pretty much s slightly slower artisan raiden mid but in 50x50
Great review mang. I picked up the Kuroson Ninja and I really like it. Previously my most used pad was probably hayate otsu xsoft, but it just isn't feeling as consistent these days so I had been using a raiden xsoft until this arrived. Only my first day using it but it feels good so far, I was curious about the break in period so thanks for mentioning it!
enjoy it and thanks for watching :)
Can u make an update about it? Thanks
Yes, how about now? You still like lit!
always love your reviews lemonade, haven't ordered one but I think it's in my foreseeable future.
thanks luna :) and ya its def worth having in the collection
Bro we miss you we need you your content is amazing plz come back
great review. might take a look at the kurosun.
how does the speed of the kurosun compare to the sv base control? i enjoy the performance of the sv base but the abrasiveness gets annoying at times.
much smoother than sv control and still a quick pad. the base isnt as firm as SV control but its firm enough to not get in the way like xsoft pads or traditional soft
Great reviews. Mine is arriving today. I main the vancer ice v2 and i am looking for a pad with a little more control, but still offers some control without hindering my micro aim. I look forward to seeing how this fairs
Def a solid pick 👌
thanks, was just trying to decide between the saturn pro/emc/infinitymice pads, after 4 videos, this is the only video that address that (haus video has different results to aimadapt)
Great review. What I didn't like about the regular Saturn is that it was wayyyy too easy to initially move the mouse, making it just feel so sloppy to control the mouse. Artisan Zero Soft has been my main for 2 years now, but kinda want to switch things up.
I'm fine with something a bit slower than the Zero, but don't want something that has lower initial friction (easier to start moving the mouse). How's this go in that category? I was also looking at the InfinityMice Infinite.
the EMC is a bit more controlled and the infinite control even more so, both good choices depending on what you prefer
sounds like u need something like a gsre se rouge (more static than dynamic friction)
Have you used the Freefall pad much since the review? If so ho does it hold up and how do you like it.
that artisan classic actually looks really nice
yeah i play on higher sens so the lack of stitching isnt a bother. and it has a unique look to it
lemon i’ve been using the vancer ice v1 for about 3 months now maybe 2 and i really enjoy it but i feel like my hands are naturally shaky and want just the tiniest bit more of control not on dynamic just on the static i believe, i love freedom of movement and play apex which is tracking based but my hands are pretty shaky and even playing on a lower sense still feels shaky
great vid my king
Thanks homie 😊
do you have a favorite cloth speed pad? been using the raiden xsoft for a while so I'm excited to try this one out but wondering what you prefer
I keep a Raiden XSoft in rotation for my main cloth speed. The zero in mid is decently quick but still controlled.
This Ninja pad is probably replacing my Raiden for now
I don’t know if you’re replying to comments still but I’m a little torn I have like 9 inch hands and hybrid claw with my xm1r I’ve been wanting to upgrade but I can’t choose between the xmw2e, the Lamzu Atlantis mini 4K and the ninjutsu sora 4K watched like 30 review videos already can’t make a choice
Do you plan on reviewing the new Energon pro?
naw I made a review of the Energon already , the Pro just uses Poron base now. Solid pad though if you want a Raiden-style clone
@@UpgradeLemonade fair enough, appreciate the reply!
How does it compare to the infinity mice speed? Thinking about picking one of them up
fairly similar in speed but with a more firm base and more control.
hey quick question, do you play some competetive games where footsteps are important? how do you drive your shp9500 or do you use the devils for gaming? and if so do you use an amp/dac? if so , which are you using?
Mainly play OW2 so footsteps are less important than Valo/CS
But I drive my SPH and the devil's using my ibasso dc03pro . It's a usb c dac/amp combo about $60-70. Super affordable and is really great performer. Plus it has an android app so you can adjust settings on it beyond volume.
@@UpgradeLemonadeDid you quit youtube?
how would you compare the EMC to the Xten Control? Do you think it’s worth getting if I already have the Xten?
Wheres the reviews dude? I miss them
Great review, thank you!
How is the egg emc compare to the ninjutso npc?
@UpgradeLemonade could you help me decide please?
Great review ,btw from what is your table made of it looks really good?
Not really sure lol
you gotta try out alpha ultd and macveth likeup of pads. some of the best budget pads you can buy
Miss 🎉 your reviews also 😢
what arm sleeve is the one you have on in the video?
Currently maining the Vaxee PA Black, the EM-C was tempting until I heard there is a large X and Y difference. Another pad that peaked my interest is the ESPTiger Feng Ling, can't seem to find it anywhere though. Anyone know how the Feng Ling compares to the PA Black in terms of speed?
There's no X Y difference on mine. Not sure where you heard that?
@@straz7888 A few people have mentioned there being a difference.
@@JtwasLuckTheres no difference.
how does the kurosun compare to the Infinitymice speed pad in speed?
its similar in speed with a touch more control, but the base is also firmer .
What brand is that arm sleeve?
The ninja sounds like a puretrak cl1 in this review. The classic puretrak always felt like a taut cloth surface to me. Would appreciate a comparison if possible, ty. Also hello fellow Florida Man!
That puretrak pad is the most balanced I've used
mmm its not quite like that, but i see what your saying ! Ya i loved the CL1 classic, such a nice pad. I was hoping the p-51 mustang would be the pro variant but it just doesnt perform the same
can you review the kysonsa m600 wireless gaming mouse please, it has a 3395, viper mini shape but a bit higher, also very light and its 45$!! from aliexpress
I have no plans on that. I do have the darmoshark m3 Varun and the Phylina s450 coming in a few weeks tho, those are both about $50 with similar specs
Only thing i wish you mentioned was the stitching which is over the surface. Pretty annoying thing to leave out
I did in the timestamped stitching section
@@UpgradeLemonadeuhh am I missing something what timestamp? I don't see one for "stitching" and I just rewatched from the kurosun section and didn't see/hear anything about the stitching
Ah it's in the earlier section... Rip gotcha
@@tinypickle haha all good :)
What do u think about the VGN F1 series ?
Idk never tried it, it's probably worth the $50 from what I've seen. It's cheap
@@UpgradeLemonade just arrived, it gives me the feel like Ninjutsu Sora but in a different shape, maybe because they came from the same factory the 4k hz experience is stable but the stock feet is a a little bit slow
this revision of the alpha cell sounds pretty good. really couldn't get behind the old versions
Yup Poron has a real competitor now, hope to see more pads using it to differentiate
Didn't know you were a Florida man dude
Awesome work 🍋 Really intrigued by this Kurosun Ninja pad 🫡
Both of these sound nice 🫡 I wish we could try before we buy!
EM-C is on Amazon 😉 (at least in US)
@@UpgradeLemonade I might check that out 🫡