I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but Darren Korb did an insane amount of technical work for Hades' soundtrack between fading the levels of intensity and dynamic measure choices for certain moments. There's a bass only version of every action song for when the battle is over and you're leisurely exploring a room, for example. And the endings of each boss fight are programmed to lead into the heavy finale of their respective songs, even if you end the fight at a weird part of the song. Darren Korb is simply a madman.
It is unreal how talented Derran Korb is. Not only has he consistently written and performed probably my favorite video game OST's but in Hades he also did an amazing job voicing the main character, recording over 8,000 lines of dialog for him alone (with additional lines for other characters).
So the whole "Calm" vs "Combat" songs happens a LOT in video games, it's actually my fav kind of musical transition ever. Games that come to mind that do this besides Hades: FF XIII-2, Fire Emblem: Three Houses and FE: Awakening, there's a lot more but I can't think of any atm.
Hollow Knight does a lot with dynamic music. An area's music will fade into a more intense version for arena fights, and there's the Grimm theme which fades into full-on metal for brief periods during the fight.
I love the way Nier Automata and FF7R do dynamic music. Route 2 of Nier where you hack enemies and it seamlessly transitions to the 8bit version is chef's kiss.
Funny that you specifically mention Godsmack because I always thought this particular song reminded me of Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. Which, as it so happens, had a song by Godsmack featured very prominently in trailers and some gameplay sequences, and took heavy inspiration from their sound for the overall soundtrack.
This is related to Scourge of the Furies in that this is a boss theme. The names of these two songs is directly relevant to the boss fight itself. I don't believe the theme of the first boss fight follows this trend, but fight 2 (Scourge of the Furies), fight 3 (The King and The Bull), and fight 4 (not gonna name it here) all follow this theme. Also, each fight take place in a completely different area of the Greek afterlife, so they don't take place anywhere really near each other, so their relation is ONLY that they're boss themes.
The first boss theme is "The Painful Way," which does reference the dialogue between the first boss and Zagreus during their first in-game encounter, fyi, it just doesn't directly (or clearly) reference the underlying mythology. Hades is my favorite game OST from the past decade, bar none.
Godsmack is actually pretty known among action game players of 2000s because second game of Prince of Persia Sands of Time Trilogy - PoP: Warrior Within - featured songs "Straight out of line" (Credits song no less!) and especially "I stand alone" (instrumental version was used in every chase section where basically local variant of Death Reaper itself chases after Prince). And obviously because these two songs were so prominent and important for the game the whole music direction of that chapter in the Sands of Time Trilogy was based around them.
The reason this and Scourge of the Furies sound so similar is because they are 2 of 5 (technically 6 but the sixth is "secret" and way different sonically than the other 5) boss tracks in this game, and pretty much all of them are structurally similar for Reasons™️, except the very very last one doesn't have the calm opening (nor does it need it).
youtube rec'd scourge of the furies and i immediately had to scroll through your videos to see if one of your lovely viewers also recommended the king and the bull i'd recommend the entire soundtrack (same with hades 2), but if i had to pick one, other than the usual hades boss fight music lol, it'd be this one but also wanted to say, idk if all your videos are viewer suggestions or what, but goddang they've hit all my faves on here (like any/all of final fantasy, undertale, crypt of the necrodancer, etcetc)
I forget if this was pointed out in the Scourge of the Furies video, but though the CD version of the track you listened to organizes the track from calmer to punchier sections in a gradual progression, the songs are dynamically mixed in a very interesting way. The calm section plays when in combat with normal enemies and has two versions: the full mix of the section, and one lacking a lot of instruments (keeping mostly the rhythm section with maybe the theremin being retained). The heavy sections play for the miniboss fights and the boss fight. There are a veritable ton of ways in which the game will transition between the two when you enter the room containing the boss, depending on what section of the track you are in when your start the transition. There are many transitional phrases written for these pieces that segue between the sections As a Greek folk dancer, I love hearing the Greek instruments that Darren got for the OST, and I'm very curious how much he delved up into Greek folk music in researching for this soundtrack!
Man, I’ve been waiting to see you hear this one, glad to see you’re coming back down this rabbit hole! You should consider Rage of the Myrmidons for the next, it’s from the same stage of the game and brings the same heaviness but a different style thereof. And remember- There is no escape.
No lie, this is my favorite track, especially when that metal kicks in like a bull. My absolute favorite theme to kick Theseus’s ass to. Also, you should totally play it!
I still listen to Godsmack from time to time, I was a 90s kid, was in my early teens listening to Moonbaby and Bad Magick back in early 2000s. Hades is a really fun time.
Hades is one of two VGM albums I've bought and listened to outside of the games, every song just fucks so hard. it's 30 tracks, most of them are the length of a Tool song, and every one grabs me every single time no matter how many times I've heard them and how many runs I've done in the game.
I'm a bit late to these due to a trip so I'll have some catching up here. I've listened to the Hades ost before this channel and it didn't completely blow me away but it's been a few years and I don't remember this song (because I listen to a lot of music like Jesse). I just noticed the acoustic guitar sounds like the one used for the Breaking Bad theme lol; this song has quite the vibe, like walking through an area. I like the ghostly instrument used in the high end, cool riffs all around. I think I just zoned out too much when I listened to the ost because this is better than I remember. The transition to the heavy more battle oriented version is dope and it's more more style for sure. I really need to give this ost another chance it seems pretty great, I liked this song. Great feel and vibe, I need to give Hades another chance for sure.
I just this second realized that the common videogame technique of using the same melodies but with different instrumentations, particularly to create a feeling movement and progression without actual melodic progression, is effectively one of the two things that makes Hans Zimmer so special. The other thing he's known for is using textures and sound effects in music, which is ANOTHER thing that's very common in videogames. Wild.
make me remember when in this fight i was full on hermes power facing thésée and i was so fast that the time that he was trying to hit me i could run around all the arena and punch him in the back
It would be a nice mixup to get one of the non-battle themes from Hades, like Good Riddance or In The Blood. Also, I'm joining the chorus of people saying that you should play the game.
Just make the whole ost already. Its too good to not do. You'll enjoy it immensely as well. Win win. Its also worth to play btw no matter your taste. Its just a whole insanely good package. In absolutely everything.
(slight spoilers for the game, not that big of a deal its just the name of the areas) So we showed him a theme for Tartarus, Elysium and Styx, someone show him an Asphodel theme
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I just LOVE when Hades soundtrack turns heavy. It sounds so crisp and awesome.
I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but Darren Korb did an insane amount of technical work for Hades' soundtrack between fading the levels of intensity and dynamic measure choices for certain moments.
There's a bass only version of every action song for when the battle is over and you're leisurely exploring a room, for example. And the endings of each boss fight are programmed to lead into the heavy finale of their respective songs, even if you end the fight at a weird part of the song. Darren Korb is simply a madman.
It is unreal how talented Derran Korb is. Not only has he consistently written and performed probably my favorite video game OST's but in Hades he also did an amazing job voicing the main character, recording over 8,000 lines of dialog for him alone (with additional lines for other characters).
I think the Theremin does a lot to make Hades stand out both from a point of atmosphere in the game and also for the Music itself
Darren Korb all be like: hold my beer while I work this theremin
So the whole "Calm" vs "Combat" songs happens a LOT in video games, it's actually my fav kind of musical transition ever. Games that come to mind that do this besides Hades: FF XIII-2, Fire Emblem: Three Houses and FE: Awakening, there's a lot more but I can't think of any atm.
Hollow Knight does a lot with dynamic music. An area's music will fade into a more intense version for arena fights, and there's the Grimm theme which fades into full-on metal for brief periods during the fight.
DMC
FFXIV's Bozja area too
I love the way Nier Automata and FF7R do dynamic music. Route 2 of Nier where you hack enemies and it seamlessly transitions to the 8bit version is chef's kiss.
Ultrakill also has pretty cool Calm to Combat transitions
Funny that you specifically mention Godsmack because I always thought this particular song reminded me of Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. Which, as it so happens, had a song by Godsmack featured very prominently in trailers and some gameplay sequences, and took heavy inspiration from their sound for the overall soundtrack.
This is related to Scourge of the Furies in that this is a boss theme. The names of these two songs is directly relevant to the boss fight itself. I don't believe the theme of the first boss fight follows this trend, but fight 2 (Scourge of the Furies), fight 3 (The King and The Bull), and fight 4 (not gonna name it here) all follow this theme. Also, each fight take place in a completely different area of the Greek afterlife, so they don't take place anywhere really near each other, so their relation is ONLY that they're boss themes.
He already reacted to The Unseen Ones, it was his first encounter with Hades music. Of course, that particular track has no chill.
The first boss theme is "The Painful Way," which does reference the dialogue between the first boss and Zagreus during their first in-game encounter, fyi, it just doesn't directly (or clearly) reference the underlying mythology. Hades is my favorite game OST from the past decade, bar none.
Godsmack is actually pretty known among action game players of 2000s because second game of Prince of Persia Sands of Time Trilogy - PoP: Warrior Within - featured songs "Straight out of line" (Credits song no less!) and especially "I stand alone" (instrumental version was used in every chase section where basically local variant of Death Reaper itself chases after Prince).
And obviously because these two songs were so prominent and important for the game the whole music direction of that chapter in the Sands of Time Trilogy was based around them.
The reason this and Scourge of the Furies sound so similar is because they are 2 of 5 (technically 6 but the sixth is "secret" and way different sonically than the other 5) boss tracks in this game, and pretty much all of them are structurally similar for Reasons™️, except the very very last one doesn't have the calm opening (nor does it need it).
More Hades 🙏 Can't wait for Hades 2 and to hear what you think of those tracks! They're gonna slap, I know it
youtube rec'd scourge of the furies
and i immediately had to scroll through your videos to see if one of your lovely viewers also recommended the king and the bull
i'd recommend the entire soundtrack (same with hades 2), but if i had to pick one, other than the usual hades boss fight music lol, it'd be this one
but also wanted to say, idk if all your videos are viewer suggestions or what, but goddang they've hit all my faves on here (like any/all of final fantasy, undertale, crypt of the necrodancer, etcetc)
No matter how many times I hear it that change up gets me every time.
The only downside to Hades is the fact that I never get to appreciate the music because I’m too busy trying to not die lol
that a fair point XD
Too true
Would love to see you stream hades sometime, glad the hades reacts are back :D
I forget if this was pointed out in the Scourge of the Furies video, but though the CD version of the track you listened to organizes the track from calmer to punchier sections in a gradual progression, the songs are dynamically mixed in a very interesting way. The calm section plays when in combat with normal enemies and has two versions: the full mix of the section, and one lacking a lot of instruments (keeping mostly the rhythm section with maybe the theremin being retained). The heavy sections play for the miniboss fights and the boss fight. There are a veritable ton of ways in which the game will transition between the two when you enter the room containing the boss, depending on what section of the track you are in when your start the transition. There are many transitional phrases written for these pieces that segue between the sections
As a Greek folk dancer, I love hearing the Greek instruments that Darren got for the OST, and I'm very curious how much he delved up into Greek folk music in researching for this soundtrack!
As I've said during some marbles streams, you should totally play Hades. It's fantastic haha
I love that there's a little bit of E1M1 from doom in this.
omg that is all i could hear too, in the metal parts!
" Huh, wrong Hell?" 'pumps shotgun, shrugs. "Close enough"
Man, I’ve been waiting to see you hear this one, glad to see you’re coming back down this rabbit hole! You should consider Rage of the Myrmidons for the next, it’s from the same stage of the game and brings the same heaviness but a different style thereof.
And remember- There is no escape.
No lie, this is my favorite track, especially when that metal kicks in like a bull. My absolute favorite theme to kick Theseus’s ass to.
Also, you should totally play it!
Yooo so glad to see Hades featured on the channel again!
Oh man you would love the music from all the other Supergiant games. Especially Badtion and Pyre. They’re all great. Korb is amazing.
I'm so happy right now I've been waiting for so long!
I still listen to Godsmack from time to time, I was a 90s kid, was in my early teens listening to Moonbaby and Bad Magick back in early 2000s. Hades is a really fun time.
Hades is one of two VGM albums I've bought and listened to outside of the games, every song just fucks so hard. it's 30 tracks, most of them are the length of a Tool song, and every one grabs me every single time no matter how many times I've heard them and how many runs I've done in the game.
Time to get pulled into the underworld, Jesse.
I'm a bit late to these due to a trip so I'll have some catching up here.
I've listened to the Hades ost before this channel and it didn't completely blow me away but it's been a few years and I don't remember this song (because I listen to a lot of music like Jesse).
I just noticed the acoustic guitar sounds like the one used for the Breaking Bad theme lol; this song has quite the vibe, like walking through an area. I like the ghostly instrument used in the high end, cool riffs all around. I think I just zoned out too much when I listened to the ost because this is better than I remember. The transition to the heavy more battle oriented version is dope and it's more more style for sure. I really need to give this ost another chance it seems pretty great, I liked this song. Great feel and vibe, I need to give Hades another chance for sure.
I just this second realized that the common videogame technique of using the same melodies but with different instrumentations, particularly to create a feeling movement and progression without actual melodic progression, is effectively one of the two things that makes Hans Zimmer so special. The other thing he's known for is using textures and sound effects in music, which is ANOTHER thing that's very common in videogames.
Wild.
Man, I've gotta get on Patreon so I can get more Hades, Payday 2 and Risk of Rain 2 to this man
Background music from Ape Escape !!! (one of the later levels / mountain peak glacier, can't remember the name)
Snowy mammoth :)
I remember commenting for you to react to this in the unseen ones video lol.
Thank you to Justin & Justin :)
Hey, so when are you going to do a let's play of Hades?
That would be so dope man.
make me remember when in this fight i was full on hermes power facing thésée and i was so fast that the time that he was trying to hit me i could run around all the arena and punch him in the back
Best example of chromatic notes is the Death Star theme
Still would LOVE a Good Riddance reaction from you. Its also a Hades song.
I died so many times to this music
It would be a nice mixup to get one of the non-battle themes from Hades, like Good Riddance or In The Blood.
Also, I'm joining the chorus of people saying that you should play the game.
He's done In The Blood! Good Riddance would be nice to see for sure
Just make the whole ost already. Its too good to not do. You'll enjoy it immensely as well. Win win. Its also worth to play btw no matter your taste. Its just a whole insanely good package. In absolutely everything.
So...was the requester actually someone who put their name down as Justin & Justin, or was this requested by two separate Justins? :V
2 different Justins lol
heh the change to what I assume is combat music Im expecting the Doom Slayer to kick in the doors :P
Would be cool to hera your opinion to any of the Spec Ops the Line soundtracks!
I am begging you to play Hades 😭😭
Not the same area, they are boss themes, and the songs get more intense as you wear the boss down and the boss gets more dangerous.
Please do god of the dead!
You need to do Pizza Tower.
Specifically The Dead I Diservioli, it slaps.
(slight spoilers for the game, not that big of a deal its just the name of the areas)
So we showed him a theme for Tartarus, Elysium and Styx, someone show him an Asphodel theme