Danger of Meditation You Don't Know - Taoist Magic Talk
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2016
- There are risks and danger ahead, if you are into those so called meditation that people are "teaching" for free, and they are all over the yoga and other website online. Most common method is mostly to sit in a certain position, then close your eyes and relax, then let yourself go into a deep-whatever-state, and some people might sense some crazy shit happening to them and they will explode. Whatever it is, there is danger and issues to come, because you are not learning it properly under someone who is trained and skilled in such things, who can protect you and guide you on your journey. Without proper guidance, you are like trying to be Tarzen in 2016, no, a blind Tarzen, and trying to explore Mount-Everest yourself, discovering all kinds of craziness beyond what your body can take. Imagine that, and that is exactly what you are doing with those so called meditation. You might be doing fine now, because you have not yet got into the danger zone, or maybe you already did and you don't realize you did. From a expert in this field of magic, I strongly suggest you either find a real master to guide you and teach you, and most importantly, protect you when you are doing this stuff. You can learn from me, or you can go for whatever or whoever you like, but it got to be a real master who really knows their stuff, not like those forum-teachers who just DIY their own pot of salad-yoga-taichi-whatever and expect people to get "enlightnment" from doing their stuff. It's a serious topic, and it is very dangerous if you don't have a proper master to guide you, and walk you through the obstacles that you will encounter during the journey.
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Meditation - this word is actually originated from Latin, and it mostly means to think, ponder, deep thinking, etc. It has nothing to do with those spiritual stuff out there too. Well, I know that most people are referring meditation to those "sit and relax yourself" stuff these days, and that si why I have to use this word for the video to make it more searchable and understandable for others.
We also have a lot of sit-and-relax kind of cultivation in our lineage, with our Taoist magic. But then, all our magic cultivation is done with all the precaution and protection work to make sure the practitioner is safe, and 100% not going to be polluted or harmed by anything when they are cultivating. It's a very structured, systematic, and serious practice, and definitely no one will be a blind birdy or Tarzen in our lineage!
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I am so glad that you published this. Your explanations are so simple and yet needed. Here in the west, we have been given only the barest of directions and incorrect info. Thank you!
thanks for liking the video! :) Watched my other talk shows yet? The new ones?
This helped me so much! Thank you!! This actually stopped me before I got any further without a master or Guru
Just found this channel for the first time cause I was looking for information on tao te ching. I recently re read the ☯ and personally find your channel a lot more interesting and useful. I appreciate you meditation criticism and admire your honest and clear thinking.
This has cleared up so much...logic prevails again...thank you Master
I channeled my energy on your wisdom on this video for over a hour thank you!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I wished I would of found you before I tried this as you are so absolutely right about everything you are saying! You have no idea of what you can encounter out there!!! I have just learned a year ago about balance. There has to be light and dark to balance the universe. The other thing I learned is the ripple effect. I can only wish other people find this video to protect them before they get into danger.
You¨re great, man! I'm getting hooked.
sub to tin yat dragon youtube channel, my dedicated channel for these! many more shit there!
Finally someone is doing Taoism materials in English! I have to THANK YOU for doing these awesome channels. I discovered your videos from your Exorcism video in search of effective rituals materials. Growing up in western culture I must agree that meditation and yoga culture here has becoming more and more dangerous and bizarre. I am a practicing ordinated minister myself and in the interfaith studies (not the kind you can pay and ordinate online with just one click!). I know Chinese (fluent) and familiar with the culture and some rituals, what surprises me was that the there are a lot synergy I found between Tao magic and other ancient magics and practices, which lead me back to Tao. I would be interested in knowing what are the roles of female in terms of practices in Tao. While I understand the Yin energy, but I also know that like any mainstream religious practices, women are still not allow to be involved in a major way.
First off, thanks for like-ing my videos and don't forget to sub to the Tin Yat Dragon channel which is my main channel on these things. Tons of cool video there and lots of talk shows too.
Secondly, you have got the theory and concept wrong, female is not equal yin, and basically there are many things that you are not understanding properly at this moment because you are in the "search and research" stage with lots of broken bits and pieces of junks around the place. You need to be guided by a master who knows what he is doing FULLY and not just provide you more bullshit pieces of info. For exmaple, what does Yin and Yang really means, you basically don't know at this moment, but I am happy to guide if you want to learn. Email me to talk if you are really interested, tinjee@chiinnature.com
Thanks for reading my comment and your reply! I watched your other videos, knowing that I will be schooled! Lol! What I meant yin energy, I was equating it to the "mother earth", "moon" and "shadow" energy. E.g, a plant is created by seed (male energy) but also require soil (female energy) in order to sprout and grow, so both are equally important (like the chicken and egg paradox), one cannot happen without the other. And because most religions and human societies are patriarchal, some perceived female as the "darkness" or "evil" or rank as sub-human, and therefore ordination and practices are simply not allowed. Anyhow, yes I am interested in learning more, just send you an email :)
email replied! lets talk there! :)
So beautiful music, thank you.
you saved my brother from the stupid meditation that got him into possession!!!!! thank you so much!!
Wow! Thanks to straighten things up! Was really confused before about meditations. You right, people like to use it (like many other activities) to escape from reality for awhile . But compared to some physical activities the meditation is like going into something unknown inside yourself with the hope to get a shortcut to your internal wisdom. I never got a deep plunge and was angry at my inability to connect to my "inner source of wisdom" - just got to sleep and have no significant dreams. Now I think it was good for myself, because I stayed in my natural comfort zone and was protected from possible harm. So, will stick with natural physical activities and maybe during doing them will get some insights in how to deal with my problems without trying to plunge in some "metaphysical stuff".
Thank you for the video`s that you put up, a lot of people appreciate them and the work you put into them.
If one was interested in finding out and exploring Taoism where would be a good place to start.
Easy, start by contacting me, get started in REAL learning instead of goofing around all the crap placed out there, wasting your time swimming in garbage pool, why not get a real master to guide you and start for real? Start serious, then you get serious results.
I'm glad I found this video, a quick question what if I have been meditating, and now have stopped, is there something I should do to reverse any potential harmful effects outside of just stopping?
so true. Thank you.
I remember meditating and then being dragged through a tunnel full of all the colors of the spectrum then the tunnel leading me to a bright light that I couldn’t even look at...this all happened in my mind....I felt a weird sensation through my spine...I’m still trynna figure out what I did 😭😭😭
This put words to something that happened to me that I could not understand. Thanks for making this video. The visualization I was using was opening an eye in my forehead that does not exist in the physical world. Do you think this is equivalent to opening yourself up so that spiritual crap to enter?
do that is not going to help but harm. because the problem is you really do not know what you are doing, and you are not protected at all while doing it.
Hi Sir may i know how to the reverse if im screw up with meditation....thans for sharing your Great teaching..... i find it my heart calm alot when im chanting 金光咒
I have had years meditating and i have been in another level of consciousness or frequency. Many “paranormal” things have happened to me.The craziest and most scary thing that has happened to me is when i was in such frequency in a strong positive spiral and then one day i got really really confused and i go into the mind and i lost the perception of reality and then i “lost” the frequency and i was so afraid. My mind started questioning things to the point it got scary. It is fucked up. since then i am scary to do it again. Like it seems like you have a distortion of reality. Seems like your brain suffers a collapse or shock. Thanks for sharing. Please tell me what should i do to clean myself from this shit???
Thank you! Is there any online courses?
Idk if you'll see this, I have mediated before and for some reason had a very weird battle with something. I ended up warding it off with my own energies, but I noticed I made my home a bit calmer.
In these meditations, I create a "threat ring" in doing this, I then create a shield around me. From there I just travel. I've had a few battles where I did feel weaker but I kept the energies high. There's more to this story, but should I send you an email?
Thank you sifu for your lesson! May I know when people move for another house, should they build up a brand new altar or re-use all stuff from the existing altar from their old house?
First of all, no one should be DIY-ing their own altar. That's super dangerous and 99% open for being hacked by spirits who want to "Become your god" or whatever you worship. Altars are ok to open at first, but if you don't know how to protect it then you are just asking for trouble.
If it is a proper altar, for example, like my disciples are moving their house, they can just take the old altar and transfer it to the next house and setup again. There is no point of "rebuilding" a new altar from nothing.
Awesome
I learned Something here.
Hi, this is a great video!!! Glad I saw this. I have a question. Is chanting a mantra daily can also be dangerous?
Yes it can,. doing anything yourself without knowing WTF you are ACTUALLY doing is dangerous - and if you already know what you are doing, you would not have this question now LOL
@@Chiinnature LOL. Thank you. I go to Buddhist temple and learnt chanting mantras. But after few years I have developed senses. Some says it is normal but for others they feel nothing.
its obvious that you are a blind duck wandering around the junk pool. Just a "few years" to have some "senses? You must be scammed SUPER BAD. Its not too late to stop and quit, stop wasting your time on non-sense shit that just waste your time for nothing in return. You are on a dead path
Thanks a lot for your advice. Keep making great educational and fun videos :)
Thanks ;-)
Master Jee - is mindfulness a dangerous practise?
Hillarious, I loved this video! Ironically funny, because I recognize myself and many other people that crossed my path in the criticisms you made.
QUESTION: considering the philosophies you explained so well, why would a person embark on learning meditation? I was recommended by a Wudang graduate to seek traditional Chinese medicine and learn Taoist meditation: but not sure why the meditation.
Well, I can only tell you not all TAOISM are the same, and many are bullshit today, especially those in China today who are nothing buy government-sided promoter. One of my disciple now is actually a victim, he even build a whole temple for those WD taoist and after 20 yrs of fucking bullshit, he came to my lineage and relaized he got fucked for 20 yrs of his life, wasting his time for some BS that doesn't translate to real results. Go figure.
Your approach (comical and plain-spoken as it is) is very similar to the philosophies of Manley P. Hall (brilliant mystic) .... discipline first: exploration requires a solid foundation. Cheers to you!
Well I have been through the crap in China, and I know what shit smells like, taste like, and look like, so I know how to rescue people who came from shitland LOL
Where can I find out more on this lineage training you talk about? Also, are you in Toronto or near it? Do you have a shop there, if so, where I can go to have a look at the goods you offer? Thank you.
www.tinyatdragon.com - I do not teach locally now, only online, but you can visit our website and we also just released a bunch of ebooks on amazon, you can check out the "my First Taoism Book" on amazon.com too
I love this 😂, thanks a million!!!
I think when too involved in anything and not being aware leads to misadventure no matter what you are engaged in. Head in the clouds no feet on the ground. Good info though. Words are exactly the problem. =)
that is why knowledge is the king, even people learning from my lineage, i must tell them to learn the knowledge behind things they are doing, the theory behind, and so that they are not a blind bird flying in the sky. You cannot just keep doing something and expect things to work or happen, you need to understand it, even cooking, computer, etc.. is the same
how can I contact you I need your help as I used to practice standing meditations for a long time from books and online, how can I cure the damages I have done!!? I didn't benifit from those exercises at all only got a shortage of memory and concentration, always drained and laziness, headaches most of the time..etc
Learning these things on your own is a disastrous route, you will have a long journey to go through to get yourself back on track. You can email me at learning@chiinnature.com
I should have watch this video long time ago
I relax by watching massage videos. And strangely it works.
Hi
I've been studying taoist meditation online with Bruce Frantzis. I'd like to find a real master but that doesn't seem possible at the moment.
You can get ordained into the lineage here and start learning for real if you want. email us to start. - learning@chiinnature.com
Are there any books you would recommend for proper Tao cultivation and meditation?
nope, too much crap out there. The only way is to get yourself guided by a proper master. No one, not even me, will be able to put the real teachings into books, because it's too massive.
yes it can be dangerous I started to use this OM KLEEM mantra and it's really powerful but I started to get really bad headaches
I have heard, Si-Fu, that those who meditate without proper guidance make their mental conditions a lot worse than what they already have.....
yup, anything without proper guidance fucks you up - just like exercise, computer, anything without proper wisdom that guide you to do it properly is going to mess you up badly. It's not only meditation, even eating with a shitty habit can kill ya, that's why we are born to learn!
My mom always said don't meditate because evil spirits will take over your brain when you leave things vacant.
you dont need to meditate to be screwed, I just went through a case , the family got screwed by evil crap even they aren't meditating.
I see visuals during meditation
and so what? does it really bring you benefit? no it doesn't. You don't even know what youa re seeing, and you haev no knowledge to understand the stuff there, then all you are doing is opening yourself up to more shit to screw yourself up later on, because it is like a man going into a forest but he don't know how to cook and do survival stuff, it's a great way to fuck up
What if you do meditation not for relaxation or spiritual awakening but for something more practical like increasing your will or your focus could there be dangers in that too?
i am not sure what your method is but "increasing your will or focus" means nothing without knowing the method you are doing and where you learn it from / who teaches you the method
You're probably right since i don't know what i don't know. master may i ask how long did it take you to get real wisdom in meditation and also how can i achieve this since you say it requires a teacher but im not sure how to tell a true master of meditation from a phony.
i just thought it to myself by using alot of introspection.
you never start learning this kind of stuff from just "meditation", you learn from a lineage, get ordained and the master teach you REAL wisdom with theories and things first, and you get yourself learning real practical theories that you can see, touch and use everyday. There is no wisdom from meditating yourself, it's all bullshit, you have to learn the wisdom from a master in real teaching, and then later you will be advanced to witness things in the other dimensions and stuff when you get to those training, then you can see other things beyond this realm. I have been training and on this journey since 4 yrs old and I am now 33, teaching a bunch of disciples now. Anyone who tells you to just go into meditation in the beginning is for sure fucking you up VERY bad. It leads you to nowhere but crap because you have no idea what you are doing and you are opening up yourself for ANYTHING to hijack you any day when that crap feels like.. and that is the exact reason why you should not do meditation just by following someone blindly.
If you want to really learn, you can also ordain into our lineage and learn for real, and real learning means you do have real things to learn, not just sit and fantasize about nothing all day long, it takes brain juice and effort to really learn something, there is no free lunch in the world.
thank you for your answer and i might take you on your offer in the future.Also does the same hold for magical arts or is that more personalized for the practitioner?
I meditate by playing cod WW2
Can you do that into into a long relaxation video
Intro into
you mean just the music?
Chiinnature the flute at the start yes .. like long relaxing asmr videod to fall asleep too
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hahah thanks for liking it, I have a lot of flute videos / tracks, you can go here: ua-cam.com/video/f30KYYXiM_0/v-deo.html
I dnt believe meditation is about Realization. to me , meditation is about raising yur Prana or Chi, by exercising yur Chakras by using breathing methods , and visualization, maybe some chanting, etc. basically it's a tool to exercise yur psychic powers, or supernatural quality.
well you can "believe" in anything you like, however, what people are doing is another thing. People don't even understand what spells is doing, and they blindly just "copy", and that's a disaster to come
I started meditating 20 years ago with nothing but pseudo new age guidance. I've had energy stuck in my head ever since. I've also had problems with confusion and anxiety. Thank you for this video
you can get it sorted out and fix up yourself by doing cultivations in our lineage, your energy body is damaged
Thank you! How do I go about joining?
you can start by emailing us - learning@chiinnature.com
Many ppl that use the teachings of the tao/dao are seeking what some Chinese call wu wei. you might need to explain it to them i think its why they do empty mind meditation. lol like most its lost in translation lol also do a vid on your masters and helpers in the wisdom if you can ppl like to here about where stuff comes from in the west. I mean like with martial arts its whos your master and his master and so on its how they think. great explanation many ppl think its all roses and white rabbits in the spirit realms and they are going to get just love from the beyond.
hahaha funny how you talk about their "wu wei crap" like what I have explained in this video - ua-cam.com/video/HN65zeUGG8k/v-deo.html
People don't get it, that the other world and realms is not all roses and bunny, you are 100% right, and people think you can just go there, naked, and evertything happen to you is good, all the voices is good, all the things you see is NICE, etc... while they are being fucked over and over and over and over again, but still smiling, pretending to be that whatever fat-ass statue, lol...
You can see them do it in everyday relationships and interaction as well. Blindly following what ever has been told to them without calculation so if its cool at the time 2+2 becomes 5. Also the ones that hurt them if they don't want to believe that 2+2 is 5. They will end up feeding some asshole all the energy they need to survive its the same in the beyond. thanks for link will watch
hahahahahah funny observation, and yes, most people are indeed like that when it comes to relationship, everyone say that chick is hot, then they WANT that chick for being the GF, lol! Look at the pop culture and people following trends, they don't even know why they are following, but.... lol! Ice fuckit challenge!
I'm trying to explain the similar thing about meditation to some people I know for many years. Thing is, stress is meant for mobilizing a person's abilities to solve or overcome a certain problem. It is only harmful when you feel too much of it and from mobilizing it turns into something that exhausts you. It's like with fever - when you have it, it helps to fight the infection, because bacteria don't feel good when overheated. But if fever is too strong, it can damage your brain by overheating it and your heart by pushing it too hard - that's when people should take antipyretic pills. Normally, stress shouldn't be suppressed, it should be utilized to gather your power and solve the problem.
if you want you can refer them to this video! LOL! How are you enjoying the shows? You see my other talk shows as well? Yes, stress is good for us, it keeps us pumping and going, like a balloon with pressure of air inside makes it a ball, a sloppy balloon is no good! :)
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I actually already sent a link to this video to a couple of them :) I'm enjoying your other videos both on topic of Taoism, flashlights and calligraphy. And I really like how you dig into the real mechanisms behind the Taoist magic and related concepts - your approach is very practical and systematic, just like if you are a good engineer or a scientist who tries to understand how everything works. Because, you know, the vast majority of people trying to think or explain so-called "spiritual" things have no real theory behind their belief, so it sounds ridiculously random.
LOL, if things don't make sense to my brain, I won't be teaching it myself, it feels like a scammer teaching people "random bullshit"! We are very packed with theories and knowledge in the lineage, that is why people likes it here! :) I would love it if you could tell me if you like any topics to be covered in my future talks, that will greatly help me out too. Also, don't forget to see my other channel, there are already many shows there on TY Dragon channl, it's a huge amount of work there, already enough to be a mini-netflix of its own, lol!! One of my disciple said to me this week -- after I ordained, I have no more time for any movies now, everyday after work I am on YOUR video only and that already took up my whole day lol!!
btw, don't forget to pump a like for the shows and vids when you watch them! That will definitely help me know which kind of videos people like more. So far I am shocked that my talk shows are earning crazy amount of likes, more than the guns and lights, lol! Join us on patreon if you want to give us some help! :)
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I'm trying to watch both your channels and I'm really amazed by the amount of time you spending on making these videos. Regarding of topics I'm interested in, I'd say that I'm really curious about the Taoist views on things we have to deal with every day. I know, that you said many times, that learning Taoism is not something you can do quickly, but currently I'm not going to try becoming a Taoist, however, I'm still interested in thing like how you explain everyday stuff. In these recent talk shows you've mentioned a lot of regular things and how you see them (like, for example, how people in different cultures doing the same things similarly without even thinking why they do it this way). For me personally, this is really interesting. Thank you for sharing your knowledge about that.
Listen man. You mean well, but your suggestion that "pills" are bad no matter what is pseudoscientific. Not all pills "dull your brain" and if some do they do so temporarily. It is a very bad idea to be scared of pills and scientific ("western medicine"). Medication and pills are not a bad thing if used correctly without abuse.
of course, I was referring to people taking pills just ot "Relax" themselves or to escape reality, like estacy and such, and many are on ambiens and sleeping pills as an "addiction" and not a medicine. We are just talking about the "abuse" use and misuse of medicine. Same goes to herbs and such, people can get crazy with herbs when used wrong too
btw, don't get me wrong, I am not 'anti-western medicine' type, I also use pills and such myself when need. It's not like I am those who is against pills / western medicine.
He was indeed referring to drug abuse.
Chiinnature So true. Have you heard of kratom? It's natural and I've been addicted to it for 4 years.
Is it true that cultavating Qi is actually opening doors in your body for metaphysical beings to go inside your body giving you supernatural powers and abilities!!?
practicing anything blindly without a direction is a disaster, and no you do not gain any supernatural powers or abilities, because you don't even know what you are doing. "Qi" or "chi" itself is not like "blood" or "bone", it's not a specific "substance" or "thing". watch -- ua-cam.com/video/pLIe0VcU3eQ/v-deo.html