I like the new one. However the display of the old one is better abd easier to play for me. I plan on getting the new one and display it as the old one.
@@newtnewt1561 Gungans are cool , so are droids , just the grandpa's who were kids during first star war movies can't imagine anything besides the original trilogy
@@Cortesevasive yeha droids are cool but besides the ships gungans arent. Also the old trilogy are just better films and aged waaaaay better then the new trilogy. I'm born 99 so I grew up with the new trilogy too. I dont hate the new trilogy but if I watch them beside the old trilogy they are just bad written, directed and paced movies.
Surprised you didn't mention that Lando in the 2003 set is the first non-yellow skintoned Star Wars minifigure. It was historic. At the same time, NBA Champions was releasing and had skin tones as well, but Lando was the first minifigures to not have yellow skin.
In the old one, you had to remove the landing page to put on a shelf. At least you don't have to remove anything on the new one to put on shelf, you just need a bigger shelf.
Hey everybody, Great News! I sent an email to Lego about a 501st Battle Pack and got a response back saying that they were *HANDING THE IDEA OFF TO THE DESIGN TEAM!!!!!!!!!* Merry Christmas...
@@txmqalfpdiq No joke! I sent them an email about the 501st battle pack and I got a response saying I should make it an ideas project. So then I reminded them that star wars sets cannot be ideas projects, and then I got the response that he was going to hand the idea for a 501st pack to the design team!
Don't mean to be a buzzkill, but "handing it off to the design team" is just customer service bs. But in all honesty, I'm keeping hopes up for it nonetheless...
The 2003 is a right classic, but the 2018 is pretty much superior. One of my favourite ideas for this set, albeit looking a bit strange, is that it is made to look like the actual cloud City building.
For those who are saying "the old one is better for nostalgia! The new ones will never amount to anything compared to the originals", I feel bad for you. I understand that the originals give you nostalgia, but that doesn't make it better. This is a perfect example of that. Just because something is "old but gold" doesnt mean it's better than what it has become. The new one is bigger, looks better, comes with the ships that the original SHOULDVE had, has more figures, has more playability, etc. In other words, stop hating on newer and better remakes of sets that give you nostalgia.
I know I'm a year late however you're forgetting the old one wasn't as expensive as the new. Nowhere near as expensive actually. The new one should have ships, hell, it should have everything. Which is does. The older was a 100 dollar price point, which can be upgraded with 30-35 dollars with the ships. The ships honestly shouldn't have been included unless it's price was higher for the old.
I agree. You can have nostalgia if you compare the crappy 2020 AAT to the excellent 2009 edition, but sometimes you just have to look past the nostalgia and see the beauty in newer sets. Most newer sets have more sleek designs, better colors, more structural integrity, more accuracy, and more functions. I've had to deal with my own nostalgia from the first star wars set I got: the 2000 edition Trade Federation MTT. I've come to accept that some of the newer ones are much better.
one thing about the new carbonite is that the actual scene isnt just han just being encased in carbonite immediately, but hes gradually lowered into the pit where he is encased then comes back up gradually. in a way the older set does that dramatic but better. the flip is a bit anticlimactic. though the new one seems smoother
Your way of comparing them is absolutely awesome! I think your 5 points tackle everything in the comparison of different sets. I think that it's be cool if you rated them on a five or ten point system, but either way great comparison videos!!
I feel like this works better as less of a comparison, but more as a showcase of just how far Lego has come. Still a great video, and both sets are still stellar.
I think the newer set could have been a bunch of different, smaller sets that could all connect nicely, while having hinges to open up for easier play.
Growing up with the original cloud city, I have had so many memories just playing with it. But with the new one, it was just really fun building it and remembering all the fun that I had with the old one. I realize that I will never have the memories that I had with the old one, but I would have to say its my favorite. The new one has so many fun builds but I know I will never use it like i did with the old one. I wish I had the new one when I was younger
RYAN MISSED SUCH A GOOD OPPORTUNITY! Instead of "we'll figure out which set has better minifigures" it should be " we'll minifigure out which set has better minifigures"
Those 5 ways to review is smart. Also it was smart to. upload this near now because you made the speed build of the older one. Also great video I really want them! I have the Luke and Lando from the ld one :)
The 2003 version not having Chewie, R2, and 3PO always bothered me. It was like back then they wanted Chewie and 3PO to be rare. Even in a $100 set that should have 10 minifigs, no, they had 7. Should've at least had 2 more stormtroopers.
Wow 20 minifigs is rediculous... but back in the day 7 was a *lot* for a set. The 2003 cloud city is the only Star Wars set I ever took apart. I remember finding out that it (and especially Boba Fett) was worth something. I used it's empty box to store all my spare legos for years as a kid. Some day I'll put it back together. For the price too, even with inflation, you could have bought a lot of other star wars sets and beat out the new cloud city. I usually parked the 2002(?) millenium falcon on the landing pad when I still had it put together.
For the most part lego had gotten better with each remake other then price (mtt and others are exceptions of course) but it's most just taking what works and improving it
I hope at some point they do another version that has an even different and improved layout, or maybe even just like separate sets that are modular and can connect together or something. I have the new one and love it but it really does looks so weird on display, whereas the older one just has a certain simplicity to it.
Hey Ryan, could you do a comparison of all the Lego X-wings? I think that might give a better comparison type video, since they all have different, positive additions.
as much as i LOVE the old set, there arent any categories that the old one would have won so id say ur final verdict is pretty fair as much as i hate to say it 😅 i would suggest a nostalgia section for the ratings tho
I just can't vote! The 2003 set was one of the set which impressed me the most, and the new one is absolutly perfect!!! A great bravo to Lego, wich is always as good since 15 years
I was able to get mine a few years back mint, sealed in box for only 1,500 which I felt was pretty pricy but as I notice now was a steal seeing as it's being sold for over 7k!!!
Drop a LIKE! Has LEGO made Cloud City better or worse in 2018? Watch the video to see what i think and let me know what y'all think!
The new one is better
The new one is better.
New one is better but the old one has that wonderful Boba Fett!
The carbonite freezing happens too *fast* on the new one. It's a good design, just too fast.
I like the new one. However the display of the old one is better abd easier to play for me. I plan on getting the new one and display it as the old one.
I don’t love the linear design of the 2003 one cuz like imagine eating dinner and then some dude is just being frozen right next to you
dessert?
@@digitaldrew2210 cursed
Digital Drew 22 someone put this on cursed commments
@@jakobyarns4369 i will lol
@@jakobyarns4369 do i have to black out ur name?
You vs. the guy she told you not to worry about
Luke Holly me being that twin cloud car in the back, and the guy I’m not supposed to worry about being everything else
@obi Kenobi if that’s how you like it then more power to ya but rn I’m feeling like cloud city boba Fett and I’m enjoying it
@lumbagoman: what's wrong with the cloud car???
True
very nice to see my fellow guards.
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Lego after hearing everyone wanting a 501st battlepack: *releases gungan battlepack to spite us*
I’d sadly buy that well if it comes with the creature from the gungan patrol
@@newtnewt1561 Gungans are cool , so are droids , just the grandpa's who were kids during first star war movies can't imagine anything besides the original trilogy
I would like a gungan battle pack but with all dem jar jars
@@Cortesevasive yeha droids are cool but besides the ships gungans arent. Also the old trilogy are just better films and aged waaaaay better then the new trilogy. I'm born 99 so I grew up with the new trilogy too. I dont hate the new trilogy but if I watch them beside the old trilogy they are just bad written, directed and paced movies.
@@VisualEffectsEngineering issa gungan cool
New cloud city is a huge improvement but the old one was good for its day.
Tayt2012 Gaming the old one is worth A LOT more
100,000,000 subscribers without any videos exactly, because it’s old
Katie Hammel and that boba fett
Extremely good for its day, u rlly had to have it at the time it came out to understand how crazy it was
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Surprised you didn't mention that Lando in the 2003 set is the first non-yellow skintoned Star Wars minifigure. It was historic. At the same time, NBA Champions was releasing and had skin tones as well, but Lando was the first minifigures to not have yellow skin.
I think NBA champions released in Feb, and this released in October. So Lando was one of the first, but not the first
“Han solo must have been taking some death sticks last night” lol
I like the 2018 one more but you can’t hate on the 2003 one because it was the early days of LEGO Star Wars
Doesn't entirely excuse them
However you can hate on its resale prices
You CAN hate the 2003 set because it does have some flaws and just because it’s old doesn’t protect it from criticism
Agreed
@@johnmarston4315 fr the cost of it now is like a used car 💀💀💀
I find it interesting that they didn’t update the carbonite piece to feature Han’s newer hairstyle.
Was thinking the exact same thing!
In the old one, you had to remove the landing page to put on a shelf. At least you don't have to remove anything on the new one to put on shelf, you just need a bigger shelf.
You could display the old one on a bigger shelf
@@jdvdje752 nobody has a five foot shelf man, also why the hell are you replying to a 3 year old comment I forgot even existed
@@jdvdje752 That would be huge shelf!
Can we all just take the time to appreciate the fact that he buys every single LEGO set that he reviews and compares
Yeah, it's really amazing
The storage nightmare he has
Deffo got some funds from family
He just steals them from Walmart
2003 cloud city ain’t cheap it’s very expensive
I can't believe that some Lego SW fans wanted a big grey saucer for UCS Bespin, we got so much better than that
Hey everybody, Great News! I sent an email to Lego about a 501st Battle Pack and got a response back saying that they were
*HANDING THE IDEA OFF TO THE DESIGN TEAM!!!!!!!!!* Merry Christmas...
@@txmqalfpdiq No joke! I sent them an email about the 501st battle pack and I got a response saying I should make it an ideas project. So then I reminded them that star wars sets cannot be ideas projects, and then I got the response that he was going to hand the idea for a 501st pack to the design team!
Don't mean to be a buzzkill, but "handing it off to the design team" is just customer service bs.
But in all honesty, I'm keeping hopes up for it nonetheless...
Thank you for beign proactive and sending the email. I hope they mean it and actually do something about it.
@@JasonSmith-ee7zqMaybe if we all emailed them somebody would actually let the design team know...
I hope we get an AT-RT for the mini set
The 2003 is a right classic, but the 2018 is pretty much superior. One of my favourite ideas for this set, albeit looking a bit strange, is that it is made to look like the actual cloud City building.
One bespin pilot actually came in the advent calendar for that year
Did everyone notice that Han in carbonite has a smoother/different hair style than the mini figure?
Yes and this really bugs me
Yah
Let's just imagine that the carbonite made his hair look smoother 🤔😂
@@dailydoseofboredom3925 10
I did my twin
I think the biggest improvement is the shape of the new set. The newer one has a much more stable structure, plus it's more space efficient
add a catagory for how good the building experience is, because some sets look great, but are just a chore to build!!!
love these videos btw
Milo Fett Pants Yes I have a set like that
It’s my Big Ben it looks BEAUTIFUL but it was a chore to build
love the fact that Solo is smiling while being interrogated…
For those who are saying "the old one is better for nostalgia! The new ones will never amount to anything compared to the originals", I feel bad for you. I understand that the originals give you nostalgia, but that doesn't make it better. This is a perfect example of that. Just because something is "old but gold" doesnt mean it's better than what it has become. The new one is bigger, looks better, comes with the ships that the original SHOULDVE had, has more figures, has more playability, etc. In other words, stop hating on newer and better remakes of sets that give you nostalgia.
you are wise, i agree with you.
Eh would say both are overpriced but I just hate the form factor of the new one. Plus nostalgia makes the old one lool better imo
I know I'm a year late however you're forgetting the old one wasn't as expensive as the new. Nowhere near as expensive actually.
The new one should have ships, hell, it should have everything. Which is does.
The older was a 100 dollar price point, which can be upgraded with 30-35 dollars with the ships. The ships honestly shouldn't have been included unless it's price was higher for the old.
I agree. You can have nostalgia if you compare the crappy 2020 AAT to the excellent 2009 edition, but sometimes you just have to look past the nostalgia and see the beauty in newer sets. Most newer sets have more sleek designs, better colors, more structural integrity, more accuracy, and more functions. I've had to deal with my own nostalgia from the first star wars set I got: the 2000 edition Trade Federation MTT. I've come to accept that some of the newer ones are much better.
I love both, both are great for different reasons
"no, I am your father"
"no that's not true or whatever"
I really like the "category" system for comparisons! Great video!
I just watched one of your vids
Thanks!
Me too
SORRY TO FLEX BUT I JUST GOT UCS DARTH VADERS TIE FIGHTER AND GENERAL GRIEVOUS FOR ONLY $190
Carson CarCar that’s a lot of money you could spend on more life useful things and not a toy ...
The Beast why are you even here
The Beast except that it’s more of an investment...
#jealousy lol
Where'd you find taht deal
Lego Gamer5502 eBay sort by newly listed
And pray
"No its not true, or whatever" yep thats the line
one thing about the new carbonite is that the actual scene isnt just han just being encased in carbonite immediately, but hes gradually lowered into the pit where he is encased then comes back up gradually. in a way the older set does that dramatic but better. the flip is a bit anticlimactic. though the new one seems smoother
22:20 if you want the straight forward answer
There's no audio
@@CandS_Studios yea wtf
@@CandS_Studios I don't know why that is. Maybe there's stuff UA-cam cut out of the video.
But what if you dont have 2 hands? 13:53
*guess I’ll die*
Make a droid put a robot hand
Then you’re screwed
use your foot
Sharkcraft but what if you fall on the entire set cause you lose your balance and destroy the entire set
9:31 I thought that was Obi Wan's thing to get Deathsticks.
They did a double sided face in Harry Potter 2001 set
Mahan The more you know...
That was literally the first double sided head.
@@MandRproductions there was two in the set. It was the polyjuice potion one that had a Harry/goyle head and a Ron/Crabbe head
Tubby Duck I totally forgot about that set
Plus there was the set with the quirrel/Voldemort double-sided face.
Your way of comparing them is absolutely awesome! I think your 5 points tackle everything in the comparison of different sets. I think that it's be cool if you rated them on a five or ten point system, but either way great comparison videos!!
At 12:51 I love it how they didn’t update the carbonate piece so Hans hair just changes when he goes in and out of carbonite
4:28 *The* magnificent cloud city boba fett is there, THEN, there's this freaky faced Lando next up.
Tristan R mean
The old jet pack mold for boba fett is so damn awesome
I feel like this works better as less of a comparison, but more as a showcase of just how far Lego has come. Still a great video, and both sets are still stellar.
9:33 Actually, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher were still drunk from a party they were at earlier when filming the arrival on cloud city scene.
That 2018 Minifig selection is massive.
One of my favourite scenes in Star Wars history
eh, video ends at 19:07 instead 23:52 weird
Thank you! I thought YT was holding out on me
Oh that's why there's no sound
You can turn on text and than watch it
I think the newer set could have been a bunch of different, smaller sets that could all connect nicely, while having hinges to open up for easier play.
Who’s here after ask MandR to see the abrupt ending
Yeah, I can't finish the video for some reason
Growing up with the original cloud city, I have had so many memories just playing with it. But with the new one, it was just really fun building it and remembering all the fun that I had with the old one. I realize that I will never have the memories that I had with the old one, but I would have to say its my favorite. The new one has so many fun builds but I know I will never use it like i did with the old one. I wish I had the new one when I was younger
2003 looks like a Jurassic World cargo bay, while 2018 looks like a big, neat house.
The balcony: a star wars story
In threaters 2100!
It do be lookin kinda fresh doe
What happend whit the audio at 19:06?
Loved the ending man!!! 👌😄
Well, double sided faces did exist since 2001, since the Professor Quarrel Minifigure from Harry Potter had a double sided face.
That was the first double sided face? Thats really a weird choice for the first double side face.
@@jaydonboettcher7562 I dont think so.
@@michaelmanta6114 ok then
I love the brand new Han Solo carbonate mold. However, the original process in which you froze solo is my favorite. The new one feels too quick.
i can’t believe i’ve been watching you since 2014, keep it up my boy!
5:46 spoiler *WARNING* ❎❎❎❎❎❎⚠⚠⚠☠☡
😆😅
Just for anyone living in the 1980s 😂
Yeah that was awesome! 😄
Wen you discover your mom's is a anti vacation
Thelower Terrarian *no one in their right mind would*
RYAN MISSED SUCH A GOOD OPPORTUNITY!
Instead of "we'll figure out which set has better minifigures" it should be " we'll minifigure out which set has better minifigures"
My favorite thing is when one day I discover a play feature on an old set I never knew about.
Those 5 ways to review is smart. Also it was smart to. upload this near now because you made the speed build of the older one. Also great video I really want them! I have the Luke and Lando from the ld one :)
I think it would be cool if you combined them. Happy Festivus
I would love to see that 😃. Great idea.
Yeah same
If money and space was not an issue - the earlier one for me ...
Just for being earlier and quirky.
I love the yellow head era.
MandR: thats a lot per piece in that version! People would be mad!
LEGO Mario: am I a joke to you
The 2018 Cloud City would have been sooo much nicer looking if they'd included detachable panels. It's a good play set but not so great for display
Completely agree, definitely doesn’t look too nice on a display
1:44 That was the first minifigure with leg printing, right?
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@@happyjohn1656 what the hell?
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@@MasterBen88 What?
1:41 PM
10/23/2020
@@happyjohn1656 idk.. lol
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Wait, you mean this brand new set is better than a set that's 15 years old, and has a quarter of the pieces? Wow my mind is blown
There both depicting the same scenes that’s why he made the comparison
The 2003 version not having Chewie, R2, and 3PO always bothered me. It was like back then they wanted Chewie and 3PO to be rare. Even in a $100 set that should have 10 minifigs, no, they had 7. Should've at least had 2 more stormtroopers.
Omg I absolutely love the new one everything is perfect
3:33 Wasn’t the first double-sided face produced in 2001 on the Quirrel/Voldemort minifigure?
WoW very cool video man. Keep it Up!!!.
I like how the 2018 version is actually shaped like cloud city, it would’ve been cool to have some outside panels
I say 2003 because it has the best lego figure ever
The ultimate boba fett
Heck yeah
I miss going into a store and seeing the *high quality LEGO figures like that* 😭
no joke tho
Same. If only they would bring it back
@@samuelthecooljedi2705 your comment deserves a like
@@meganbenson1478 ?
*sees another Cloud City set* "UGH, NOT again." (UGH-NAUT)...
NAUT a good joke
Wow 20 minifigs is rediculous... but back in the day 7 was a *lot* for a set.
The 2003 cloud city is the only Star Wars set I ever took apart. I remember finding out that it (and especially Boba Fett) was worth something. I used it's empty box to store all my spare legos for years as a kid. Some day I'll put it back together.
For the price too, even with inflation, you could have bought a lot of other star wars sets and beat out the new cloud city. I usually parked the 2002(?) millenium falcon on the landing pad when I still had it put together.
I do like the new one more, but I love the simplicity of the old play sets
They need to do back printing for the droids.
I am from the future your wish has been granted 😎
For the most part lego had gotten better with each remake other then price (mtt and others are exceptions of course) but it's most just taking what works and improving it
The best thing about the old one is the exclusive minifigs
13:50 "if you have two hands" proceeds to do it one handed. Twice.
What did mace windu say after a random kid said trick or treat?
Mace windu: take a TREAT!.
No
No
*N O*
*_NO_*
No
I prefer the set from 2003 because of amazing rare minifigs, and the set is very cool too.
Is it just me, or is the camera really shaky?
I'd love to see a side by side comparison of the two Slave 1's.
To sum up this video: MandR has a favorite child.
DEATHSTICKS
I hope at some point they do another version that has an even different and improved layout, or maybe even just like separate sets that are modular and can connect together or something. I have the new one and love it but it really does looks so weird on display, whereas the older one just has a certain simplicity to it.
This was such a smart and creative idea for a video! Keep up the great amazing work!
I need to get cloud city
The 2003 set was great at the time and still holds up as a decent set. Just that the new one is much better
I'm about to get the new Cloud city set super excited thanks for the video!
Missed the chance to say 'Lobot and the robot'
How much did the classic one cost for you? I’m guessing you didn’t buy it sealed…
$517.
MandRproductions dang
@@Tony-yn5rr gotta just wait and find a good deal
Yeah the 2018 set is much better. But that original Cloud City Boba Fett is the one ace up the 2003 version's sleeve.
Hey Ryan, could you do a comparison of all the Lego X-wings? I think that might give a better comparison type video, since they all have different, positive additions.
I’m not the only one who has problems with the Cabin freezing chamber
as much as i LOVE the old set, there arent any categories that the old one would have won so id say ur final verdict is pretty fair as much as i hate to say it 😅 i would suggest a nostalgia section for the ratings tho
Spider Jay that would be dumb because the older sets will always win the nostalgia section..
I just can't vote! The 2003 set was one of the set which impressed me the most, and the new one is absolutly perfect!!! A great bravo to Lego, wich is always as good since 15 years
I wish they made a version which is the exact same set as the new one but with the nostalgia of the old one EXCEPT THERE’S NO YELLOW SKIN
No mater what set I'll buy, I still need to sell several kidneys to buy either one.
Change my mind: Old school Lego Boba Fett is the best mini figure of all time
2003 is better for nostalgia and collectors 2018 playability
The Lego cloud city 2003 is almost 20 YEARS OLD!!!! It’s so rare too. Lots of third parties are charging outrageous prices for this.
I was able to get mine a few years back mint, sealed in box for only 1,500 which I felt was pretty pricy but as I notice now was a steal seeing as it's being sold for over 7k!!!
You should check if the figures are in there, you could have gotten scammed
"No double faces in 2003" also Jango Fett from 2002
let's make 501st battle pack a thing, yeah..... No? ok
Why does this video cut off at 19:00?
19:01 “four separate distinct separate sections that are just so separate” lol 🤣
That deathsticks joke was one of the best jokes I have EVER heard on UA-cam!