The Truth About Tesla Model 3 Batteries: Part 2
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2018
- This is part 2 of our Series on the Truth About Tesla Model 3 Batteries. Today we’re going to discuss how Tesla takes these 2170 cells, and create their world class battery pack modules.
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Serisouly though who wouldn't support you on Patreon after enjoying such a well made content. Thank you ;)
Thank you so much for saying that... it really is motivating :) We have a lot of great stuff in the works!
Two Bit da Vinci, very impressed. Thanks for the insight!
First visit to your channel and you can't convert units, not a very good reason to follow you.
Inaccuracy kills a source.
Two Bit da Vinci Pretty much spot on. But did you mention that the rear motor can be used in waste heat mode to heat up the car really well, especially start ups for the days beside software preconditioning/predictions.
One tiny little quibble: You mentioned that you should cut back on the seat heaters to extend range. Using the seat heaters on an EV uses very little electricity. For that reason, it is suggested that you USE the seat heater and cut back on the cabin temperature. Seat heaters are your friend.
sure this is a bit subjective. The same resistive heating elements are at play in both, so based on number of passengers, and personal preference, do what works for you! I like warm air on my feet
I get it. In the low range days of 75 to 85 miles, people would go to extremes in order to keep warm; blankets and boots were the norm. And thank you for all your hard work. I've owned five EVs since 2013, and around ten fossil cars. My Model 3 is by far the best car I've ever owned.
The dash heater can draw thousands of watts. The seat heaters are in the low hundreds.
Yeah, you can set the heat to a lower setting, you should factor comfort, preference, and number of occupants. But do what makes the most sense for you, and do some experimenting! We'd love to see the data from anyone who does it!
Not really - most electric seat heaters use 90-120 watts of electricity. The electric-resistive heaters inside EV's range from 2500 - 6000 watts or more.
This side of UA-cam is called: knowledge!
This is great set of videos excellent info with high production value
thank you for such informative video. really appreciate it.
Great video!
love the video and explanation...thank you for making this.
Great videos. Very informative. Thank you
Great vid.....clear and precise. Thanks.
Great video man, Looking forward to the following videos. Keep it going my dude.
Thanks Ali, if you have ideas or questions for future videos, don't be shy!
This is great. I was really curious about what the Tesla packs looked like. Thanks boissss
This is a really excellent video. Great, detailed information. Very, very nice!
Great job! Excellent!! Thanks you answered most my questions!! Have a great day.... liked and subbed!!!
Amazing work put into this video
Great video, extremely informative, thank you.
A great pair of videos... thank you!
Thank you! well produced, a wealth of information, and no dumming down. Wish there where more show on UA-cam like yours.
I appreciate the knowledge!!! TY
You recommend not running seat heaters, but it's much more energy efficient to run those with reduced cabin temps since the heat is direct to your body, and not dispersed through air in the cabin.
Yeah that is purely up to the user. Seat heaters usually aren’t enough for me. I prefer heat on my feet. But you’re totally right the heater in the seats use less energy than the cabin heater!
Seat heaters are fine up to -5/-10°c but colder then that you need the air too. At least my opinion. Maybe you live in a warmer area then myself, maybe not though
If you spent that kinda money on a car... your gona sit in it and be cold? LOL. I'm toasty warm in my POS 80's diesel...
@Matt Lane you might be focusing on the wrong thing here...
Living where I do, I literally never turn on my car's heater. A/C runs for 9 months a year though.
Impressive series! Thanks!
Brilliant video series. I look forward watching to Part 3.
Outstanding video! Thanks for posting. Just subscribed.
Thanks! Let us know if you have future ideas for videos!
Thank you for correcting the materials cost error in part 1.
Very informative information, i have watched it twice and really appreciate the content. Good job!
I really appreciate all of the research you did for our benefit! You rock!
The thing that bothers me a bit is how he calls it "Tesla's battery" all the time, as if Panasonic isn't doing anything. Panasonic makes these batteries in the Gigafactory. They share the Gigafactory, with most of the space being for Panasonic. It's Tesla owned of course, and Tesla is a client for Panasonic, but it doesn't mean that Panasonic can't just get other clients, as well.
Excellent overview in part 1 and part 2.
Please, energy density in Wh/kg, not W/kg (power density). How can neophytes understand if everyone makes the mistake? I'm sorry to be aggressive but I'm annoyed everyone makes this mistake, even this pretty good channel! You cannot confuse these units talking about batteries, it's soo disappointing and it's not a small mistake, especially if this video is designed for engineers. *Great video anyway* :)
Hahaha. So true, and such a frequent mistake
Being a UA-camr is very hard,
much respect to this high quality Engineering video.
He(and so many others) makes this mistake in almost every video. Even in the newer ones still.
This is the best detailed information about Tesla batteries I’ve seen to date. Great work!
I believe you spent time on this. Excellent content. Subscribed
really appreciate the last mentioning of your effort in the making of this video
Pleasing to listen to and watch. Thank you !
Thanks Victor!
Nicely done many thanks
Seriously wonderful video.
Thank you!
This was incredibly well done.. easy to recommend this as one of the best layman's breakdowns of this technology I have seen. Each of the 160K of us that have seen this so far.. have come away smarter from this well though-out presentation. Kudos to you for this.
Wow ... that's a great compliment, thank you so much!
This is some real high quality video. Both in terms of production and content. Very brilliant research done ! Thank you
You tell truths that I agree with. Must caveat that by stating I've not seen the entire video and may or may not agree with some of your assertions. That aside what I have heard resonates. I was immediately on the heat problem, which you immediately explained in a clear and concise manner.
Cuddos Dude! :)
Great presentation, excellent info, thanks so much!!
Fascinating videos on Tesla battery technology. Extremely engaging content.
nice work on correcting the mistakes in the previous video. Between these last two episodes I've checked in on, you definitely deserve a sub. Thanks for the hard work dude :)
You deserve my subscription and likes. Keep going. Thank you!
Excellent video. Thanks.
This is the channel to be. The depth of these videos is simply mind boggling 😊
You deserve much more subs! Nice Vid.
Thank so much! We have a lot more planned in the coming weeks!
Very nice! Thanksomuch!
nice video! Thanks!
Good job, the detailed info and the quality of the video is impressive to say the least! Looking forward to the next video going over the full impact of EV on the environment.
Yes we hope to cover that within the next few months
Wow your work ethic and execution is amazing! Such great content! I’m a Tesla owner and it’s great to learn about the tech that’s in my car. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! That really means a lot to us ;)
What a great series!!
Impressive video ☺ Thanks for enlighting us on these subjects. All the best, Per (Denmark)
this video is so complete u wont ask any more
best compliments, very interesting and clear!!!
Thank you for the video. Great explanations.
This is brilliant. Thank you
Outstanding video-you are the best! 👍👍Very easy to follow and a very comprehensive technical breakdown of the model 3 battery. I look forward to the next video. Thank you.
[Ricky] Thank you! If you have ideas or questions about any of these topics, please don't be shy, we love bringing content our viewers actually want to see
I’m trying to keep my charging at no greater than 80% on a somewhat daily basis. Not necessary to charge every day, but keep plug in when at home. It will be interesting to see over time what effect this method will have on the battery life, as far as degradation. Had model 3 for less than a month about 770 miles so far. I’m using the app TezLab so my car data is being collected.
12:41 That's the FIRST time that guy has ever removed an oil cap!!! :D
So he buys one that has no oil cap.These cars are techy cars for techy people.
So the Iphone generation should love them, if they can afford one.
And then there is the minimalist movement, so let's all live in tiny houses, drive bikes, and grow your own food, yes?
Yep, you can tell! Good spot.
Very informative. Thanks so much.
Wow, thanks for all the info!
Thanks!!!
How do you make the 3d walk throughs? I am thoroughly impressed with the professional quality
Great content!!
Great presentation, right questions and answers. Thanks.
LEAF's use a HVAC system for heating and cooling generally. The lower trim level uses resistive heating. Also, heated seats are dramatically more efficient than heating the entire cabin.
One of the best vids I've ever seen
Thanks so much! Hope you’ll subscribe and please let us know if you have ideas for future videos!
Great videos! Thank you!
thanks for the info man. great vid.
Subscribed, thumb up, Thanks, fascinating, I can't wait to get my 3, with AWD, and High Performance model.
Wow nice! do you have an estimate on delivery?
Superb video - I've never seen you before. But very well done.
Might have been worth mentioning that the Model 3 has the batteries pre-attached to the cooling ribbon to aid in assembly - it's like a machine gun's ammunition belt.
Yeah not sure if we were clean on that, but thanks for the info!
Karen Pease
I found the battery cooling to be an interesting solution but wonder about the coolant system only having contact with a small percentage if the cell, it seems to rely heavily on the "thermal paste"
@@paulcalmond Actually it looks like it has almost half of one complete side in contact with the cooling ribbon- more than I thought it would.
very good analysis on the cold weather for tesla, thats all the info i need thanks!
Excellent video Ricky !!!
Rel life numbers: I bought a Model S in 2013. I got about 265 miles on a charge. 6.5 years later, I get about 259 miles on a full charge.
So, the big range degradation story is a myth.
That’s fantastic data, thanks for sharing!
Do you charge your car to 100% and discharge it to say 10% to get maximum range?
Or do you charge to 80% and discharge to 30% as stated in this video?
I'm just wanting to understand how much of the battery pack's power reserve is used to get the range you state.
Thank you.
Try tesla in snow and cold
@@StopTeoriomSpiskowym doesn't the batterys warm up quite fast anyways?
But you are not saving the world either. That is a myth too
15:58
-27C here in Finland last winter.
My 2004 polo, semi faulty ignition, broken lambda, broken catalytic converter, leaking exhaust system.
Starts with first crank albeit sounds a bit rough.
Though that thing sucks money like a leech when you fix the issues it has :P
He meant Diesel not Petrol engines.
Even modern Diesel diesel engines does not require those gadgets. Whats great about those shots of the cars is that maker of this video does not know european car plates since those cars are from Russia where winters generally are way harsher than the -27C. And from what i see those shots the cars are from Tomsk Oblast are if you want to know thats West Syberian Plain which means in those EV probably would not even start during the winter.
your car battery must be brand new then!!
You know you just defeated the whole point of having EV by your sentence, because it just show how much of denial. Great idea brand new battery for every winter. The thing even if manufacturer of battery says it can work -27C you really don't want it work in those conditions(in other words do go with your EV cars anywhere with temp. lower than -22C) since it would damage the battery so much that you will need a brand new one.
I have a car fail to start every winter in finland. And ive owned 5 brand new ones. Joka vitun talvi
Great video, thanks
Great videos both parts, learned quite a lot about Tesla batteries. Thanks for your hard work.
These were excellent videos; thank you.
Great videos but why use a clutch plate graphic as the inverter? And didn't I see a turbo in there too?
lol... Limited Visual assets...hopefully you get the gist :)
Yeah it's fantastic!!!! Great work!!!
What, Tesla inverters don't look like clutch plates? Who knew? Maybe you could get Tesla to change their inverters so they look like clutch plates so the image in your video would be right.
It would be nice to see Tesla offer a manual tranny, as an option! 8)
thank you for making this video
Thanks for correcting the prices. Just watched part one and I couldn’t take my eyes off it
Great video ,well explained
One day I may win the lotto and buy one
Cute that you use a clutch plate as the figure for the DC-AC Inverter (which you called AC-DC inverter, which is backwards, AC-DC is done simply with rectifiers).
Ele Truk and yet there is still some nutjob insisting that Tesla is supplying him with their own graphics. lol.
Awesome video!!!!
great news and super work
The picture of your AC/DC Inverter is a Clutch Plate lol???
Yeah noticed it too
Yeah, also spent a while looking at that! I think a AC/DC converter would have fewer moving parts!
Very educational! Well done production.
Awesome guys thank you
Great video! Very informative.
16:55 - I think that is where Tesla's acquisition of Maxwell Technology comes into play. Tesla can integrate Maxwell's capacitors to capture regen engergy while the Li-Ion batteries heats up to optimal temps.
Skeleton capasitors is future
interesting that in 2020 this topic has only 4 thumbs up. this whole thing is DRIVEN by battery technology - that's why it didn't take off earlier - pitiful batteries. The combination of Li-ion and capacitors opens up a new chapter - humbly IMO. Isn't the final answer, but so much better than anything else right now.
I have a 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV and I'm loving it. Since buying the car (used) I've made about 20 trips, the majority of which were to work and back (23 mi each way) and my gas engine has only turned on once to do a "System Check" (a routine process to make sure it's working well) in the past 2.5 weeks. I have 283 miles of range in the nearly-full 7 gallon gas tank. I'll post back when I have to actually visit a gas station and fill up. :D I feel like Tesla is largely responsible for pushing manufacturers like Honda to make EVs and PHEVs.
Excellent technical presentation !
Thanks for the education. Taking delivery on our model 3 in a few days, and the information is very helpful. That was a lot of research for our benefit. Well done, Subscribed.
Congrats! What configuration!
Dual motor, big battery, and enhanced autopilot. I went with the 18 inch aero wheels to soften the ride a bit. I don't care for the looks of the snap-on wheel cover, but the alloy wheel under it isn't bad looking. I'll snap on the covers when doing long distance driving.
Really looking forward to saying goodbye to gasoline, oil/changes, transmission/fluid and around 2,000 other moving parts subject to failure.
I appreciate the tips on charging, your work gave me a better understanding of battery health! Thanks!
You guys are making a professional effort to provide valuable information for everyone interested in Tesla.
I have had a Model S for more than 3 years, and as much as I keep up, reading almost every article and seeing a great number of videos - your information and presentation is the most accurate, dense and complete I have seen.
I have a recommendation: since you appear to be on track to basically create a 'Tesla Encyclopedia', I believe you might enhance the value of your project with an indexing system.
An indexing system could be as simple or as complex as you choose to design.
However, I see a complexly designed indexing system as eventually generating great rewards for both you and your viewers. It would be a big undertaking.
1. Simplicity from the start would only need to categorize your videos by subject matter - a 'table of contents'.
2. More complex would be to create an interactive tree of related material organized to send researchers logically to the level their prior research indicates would be most useful them, i.e., answer their questions before they ask them.
3. Much more complex would be to access timestamps within each video so that keyword searches could provide your viewers with links to related snippets across the breadth of your video library, giving very detailed access to all the material you accumulate. They could in effect build their own video.
lol - maybe I'm making an impossible work project with this last suggestion. I suggest it because I absolutely see your efforts producing the quality and detail that is sure to satisfy Tesla researchers. After all, you are entering a rapidly expanding market.
we're going to digest this awesome quote, and we'll keep in touch with you going forward!
I love this channel already. 3mins in and I can’t even stop thinking about how amazing it is for someone to not only get all this information but to make a 21min video on it. Haven’t watch the full video since I’m super tired from work but definitely will watch the rest later. Amazing work and content keep it.
I want my next car to be wicked fast, totally silent, and run on the sunlight hitting my roof at home. Fun is good, but FREE fun is better.
sorry nothing is free, no idea where you get these ideas
If you only rely on the sunlight hitting your roof, you won’t go very far... and all these things aren’t free...
my model 3 is fast, silent, and charged by 17kw solar system in my backyard. Absolutely fun, but not free. The solar system cost $42000 after government incentive. That’s equivalent to 10years of my FPL bill. So after 10 years, if the system still works, I get my electricity free.
Great analysis, I Love this
Great work dude.
I'm not sure about your advice to not use seat heaters. They draw only a few amps, but can improve comfort greatly. The best advice I've seen is to run the cabin heater until it's comfortable, then turn it down or off and then leave the seat heaters on to stay warm...
Totally I think that’s personal preference and honestly you can try some trial and error read your power consumption meter and see how it plays out! Share what you find
I concur. The seat heaters are nothing in the scheme of things. You'll save more power turning on the seat heaters and lowing the heat temp setting by 1 degree.
When people are talking about lithium reserves they're not talking about lithium stacked in the back of a warehouse somewhere. That refers to all of the resource that is economically feasible to extract. I'm not saying that's an issue to worry about right now, but the way you mentioned it in your narration made it sound like there's lots more to be had somewhere. That's not the case. 18:35
Thank you for your nice video.
So much raw materials! I am totally sold. All questions answered!
I'd like this 10 times if I could this is hands down the best video on the topic made so far.
Thanks so much! We're always open to hearing great ideas/questions for future videos!
Okay sure, Rimac is very interesting.
Ah you read our minds, that is going to be out before years end, we assure you!
After watching part 1 and part 2, this seems more like a Tesla commercial than independent research. This seems especially evident with some of the statements about completing technologies. For instance I've never seen anywhere near a 50% loss in range of my Bolt due to cold. And I grew up in Wisconsin, and started our gas car in -50F temps at least once a year. (With no block heater.). There also is a lot of 'Tesla does it this way, that that's the best', without weighing the advantages or disadvantages of the various approaches. I also doubt the the battery design in other cars is based on 'what room was left over'. I found this interesting, but I feel like I need to watch videos produced by the other manufacturers to get a balanced point of view.
Super report. Thanks!