Paiste Versus Zildjian Cymbal Comparison 18" 2002 MEDIUM vs. 18" S Series Medium Thin Crash
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
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Love 2002s and s series
18 " Giga bell ride -Great !
Paiste in for the win! Much less "tinny" sounding and has that full-bodied edge of a higher quality cymbal. Just my .02!
true, but in fairness, the s is much cheaper than the 2002
Dang, I'm really impressed with the zildjian! Considering it's a fraction of the 2002 price, I might buy a set
Update: right after this comment I bought the box set. The mastersound hats and this crash were the only good parts in person. replaced them with a full set of 2002 big beats, and all is right with the world
Super helpful comment ty for this
Hey Terry. Thanks for the tips as always man! Just picked up an 18" medium thin S family for $50... was a steal. Sounds like a $300 cymbal. I've purchased many a cymbal now on your advice and have yet to be disapointed.
That's terrific, Jard! I appreciate your fandom!
Dang Terry, they both sound great but I'm with you the old original sounds better.
Wow! I am amazed they are that similar.
Love the little solo at the beginning and the blblblllblllnlllbbblll😂😂😂👍🤟🥁🤟
A couple of questions. #1 - Which is better the 20" Zildjian S series Medium Thin Crash or the 20" S Series Thin Crash? In your honest opinion. I will buy whichever you recommend. #2 - Are you ever going to do a lesson on The Immigrant Song Live (From the BBC Sessions)? LMK.
Hello from Chicago Carlos and Yani! My opinion:though the 20” MEDIUM THIN CRASH is a great powerful original Giant Beaty crash, the 20” is the all purpose Go To.
Was recently gifted i series after my b20 Zildjians were all pretty badly cut and in a car accident. Would love to see a comparison with i and 2002. Learning about alloys and such through your channel. I used to really love a 2002 18” that belonged to a church I played for, so I love learning Bonham held them in high regard. As the i series seems to be Zildjian putting some development into their b8 I would love to see a comparison.
Hi- yes, I'd like to do a Zildjian i vs. Paiste Comparison!!! I just need to score some is!!!
Terry, great comparison between the two vintage 2002 s and your Zildjian S series! listening from the recorded end of it hard to tell a difference with the shimmer factor they both sound really sweet but you can tell the reissue is higher-pitched of course with a hundred extra grams piled on but holy moly the Zildjian S holds its own against both of them and definitely would sound fantastic either live or recorded has a substitute or replacement for the 2002 s hate to admit it but it is what it is...
Hey Terry! I just picked up a pair of brown label 15" medium 404 hi hats for $40. They're amazing and just wanted to thank you for turning me on to this brand! I now have a 20" brown label ride and the hats.
That’s terrific Jard! Congratulations!!!
You should start a podcast and talk all things music. You'd do so well. Do it joe Rogan style. That would be killer.
Why do Paiste charge so much for these things?? Am I missing something here? I like traditional A zildjians. Can’t go wrong with anything medium thin. I have a lot of cymbals but my go to is always my 20” A crash ride and two 18” medium thin crashes. Maybe a sweet ride with a 16” medium thin but I don’t have a lot of cymbals stands at the moment
probably depends where you are in the world. if you live in switzerland you can probably get them for a lot less
I was dissatisfied with an 18 inch S model I bought. I bought a 22 inch ride (which i still have) and was so impressed I went out and bought an 18 and a 20. The 20 inch basically died after two years and the 18 was a dog right from the start.
Absolutely love your black beauty 14"x 712" The ultimate Snare drum. The only thing I would do is ace the triple flange rim, notorious for tension rod @ 7 and 8 O"Clock loosening requiring constantly tightening in between songs
earned a sub. +like! Love it!
Thank you, Armen!!
Hi Terry , only discovered ‘oleum and ‘ology recently so hi to George as well . As far as the P vs Z question goes I’m biased though I will add to your dilemma re: the weight of the 24” Giant Beat ride . 1! I prefer your more modern Paiste, nice as the Zildjian is. It leaves my fillings alone ! 2! I use a 26” Paiste Giant Beat as a ride ( with my “big” kit!) and I can only recommend the hell out of it! I’d like to thank yourself and George for rendering my tv obsolete! And for educating and entertaining in equal measure , so , gleetings from England and all the best. Mr. Magpie ( my new 3- piece band consisting of me , myself and I ! Thanks. A bientot.
Thank you very much, ‘Porium!! I’ll check you out!
Ive got a 2002 "18" on layby in the shop, will match my 2002 -20 inch ride Ive had for 24yrs, that is a well used cymbal, Jason Mills from New Zealand.
Kerry glad to see you playing Zildjian it’s the best cymbal Company in my opinion and you make great videos about them rock on and get more S series
Sounds like BACK IN THE DAY is the catch phrase of the video.
What is your opinion on cleaning cymbals? Do you clean them or leave them be?
Another great video!
Not much to check right now , sorry ; battling digital dyslexia ! And a dearth of Camco pedals - rare as rocking horse poop ! Using a Carmine A signature ddrum with that big G.Bt otherwise it’s ‘just’ the 24,20, &18s . Interesting using a 22” as a crash , too , unless you need an unremitting tsunami of ‘wash’ . Question: did Tony Williams use that there Camco kick pedal that G and yourself prefer ? ( I bought a used one recently - gorgeous action but it was worn out - got a refund and a FP7210. OK- ish😬.) I know he used to use Gretsch sticks ‘cos his ‘ tech ‘ let me keep those he left on his kick at Ronnie Scott’s - knocked a bit of acorn off playing in a Goth band ! Looking forward to the next musings , old bean . Be of good cheer as a son of this town used to say. Lemmy. Stoke-on-Trent. Later tater
The 70's medium gets my vote but those s models sound sweet. Have a 20" medium from the 70's coming this week...caaaant wait! Come on friday...
Now since this video, they even have Zildjian Dark S series, and Meinl dark cymbals, which not everyone agrees the color makes them dark. I don't know the big difference here, just the end result ..I guess you could say Paiste has dark cymbals, but mostly in the expensive range b20...
Ah yes- I'm not a fan of them (S Dark) generally.
hey man can you please do a tutorial on the rock n roll solo on the song remains the same!!!
That might be a job for......... GEORGE!
The attack on the 70's is a more pleasing to my ears (explosive) compared to the reissue. The sustain (you called shimmer) is also better. That's not a bad sounding Zil, but it isn't a Paiste, and pretty recognizable as so
I like the thin over the medium thin.
Check out the Paiste Rude 22" The Reign Ride. WOW!!!
Not fair to the Zildjian. A is the best series for Zildjian and 2002 is the best Paiste series. You should compare the ‘02 with either the A Medium or A Custom Medium
Animal ✌🏼🎉
we have the same idiosyncrasy when we play, tongue out!
S series sounds much better than the 2002 medium.
I haven't bought any Zildjian S yet, I can usually find uses Zildjian A for less $ than S.
What hi hats?!
Hats here are 15": Giant Beat TOP, 2002 Sound Edge BOTTOM.
S is superrr
Does it really matter what kind of cymbals you have and what kind of drums you have if you can't play teach
Too funny!
2002, 602 and Giant Beat are the best cymbals, btw your snare sounds out of the "Bonham" sound. put a Emperor head on it and tighten it well on a 6.5-14 Supraphonic. And the snare shouldn't be tilted up, that makes rim shots for accenting harder brother
Brlbrlbrl 🤣
Paiste 2002 medium🤘
If those are your facial expressions while playing drums, I'd hate to see what's going on when you are having sex. Do enjoy the videos though. I'm a big Paiste nerd.
Terrific Gregg! I have my gimp mask on usually, so I don't know what faces are made.
Paiste the best period
YES .. man, you have cash .. for cymbals .. but do more practice on drums ..
U NEED HAIRCUT BUDDY.....
Only the professional drummer will choose zildjian
No, not true. You are wrong.
Why are you drumming like that? It’s definitely not helping me compare the cymbals..
and if that’s just how you drum I’m going to encourage you invest in a metronome and hire an instructor👍
I’m not trolling .. no offense intended