kieth, i find your videos very intresting. i dont do am model engineering but like steam engines. i find myself addicted to watching hours of your videos and I have started dreaming of barco spanners and trips to blackgate engineering. I am into O Gauge model trains.
I have to say that watching your last video I was impressed with the copper tube thread cutting tip on the die. However the idea of a mandrel to support the inside of the tube.....im surprised after watching your vids you hadn't thought of that one, but I guess it goes to show to us newbys that an 'ol dog can still learn new tricks lol, learning a lot from your vids so please keep them coming :) my old ML4 will soon be producing masterpieces after watching your tips ;)
That is a very nice looking engine. I wonder if you might be able to fit some oilers along some of the places that need more frequent oiling. I have seen that on some of the larger engines. Anyway, it has been a joy to watch as you make this machine better and better. Thank you again for the wonderful videos and forgive my ignorance on these engines.
I think adding so many bends to the exhaust outlet would increase the exhaust back pressure. On full size engines a condensor was used to reclaim water and also to decrease the back pressure of exhaust so as to get maximum work out of the engine.
But this solution was merely to solve the problem of the condensed water from coming out of the exhaust and making a mess of the bench. It being merely for show, you needn't worry about the amount of back pressure so long as it runs.
Have you tried chain saw bar oil it has very good anty fling properties and very high lubricant properties between chain and bar at the cutting section in the wood it has a very long stretch /stringing effect between thump and finger so it is not thrown off easily at speed and temperature cheap as chips from gardening store
On full size engines they have a pressure/vacuum gauge on the condenser. Have you considered adding one to this engine as the condenser is actually large enough to function as one?
Yes, it does actually work but I have set the linkage so that it doesn't close of the steam inlet so I can run the engine at speed as I did in the recent video.
Hi Keith, love your videos! What size boiler would one need for a Stuart 10H, 10V or S50?? Would one of the Wilesco boilers be sufficient to run these engines?
A 500 or 501 Stuart Boiler would be the smallest one for the job. Forget little toy Wilesco boilers, they run at too low a pressure. A Wilesco boiler will provide just enough steam to turn these engines, but not for long.
To my untrained eye it's a very nice looking unit, Mr. Appleton. About the gas burner, would you guess that it is the same CO emission or more as a burner on a gas cook top or oven?
co should be close to zero with an efficient burner, people use gas cookers with no ventilation, so they tended to be very good burners, you could tell some of keiths burners werent quite so good at the job, hence the co
Yes, it does actually work but I have set the linkage so that it doesn't close of the steam inlet so I can run the engine at speed as I did in the recent video.
Why is the cylinder exhaust to the top of the condenser and the cylinder exhaust to the middle? having no knowledge of such things I would have thought if the cylinder exhaust went in the middle and the condenser exhaust at the top would give greater capacity and give cleaner steam to the chimney? is it do with esthetics?
Hi keith. I am making a steam plant which has a model water tower to feed the boiler and whilst i was making the tower for the water tank i knocked up another for my condenser. This would put the condensor 300mm above the engine. Do you think this will give me grief? Love your content and im an avid viewer and fabricator
It should be fine in an elevated position. The only problem I have is if (like on the Victoria" Steam Plant) the pipe run after the condenser is a bit too long and some condensation is occurring.
I got a toy steam engine when I was a child. The platform was about 25x25 cm and you could attach different small machines to it but I couldn't afford them. It was very fun to see it run but I got tired of it pretty quick. As you now know, my experience of steam engines is really limited. With that said. Why does the engine do this? 6:53 Is it designed to only provide power on the push stroke?
I have now answered this question too many times .... it is is the comments box at the foot of a few videos in this series. The engine is set to be able to go fast because I have adjusted the control arm to not close the valve on the steam chest.....
That is the governor to regulate the speed of the engine, the fatser it goes the faster the governor spins and as the balls move outward due to centrifugal force, they operate a lever which reduces the amount of steam admitted to the engine - and slows it down.
Mr. Appleton, truly a beautiful plant. Very impressive . Thank for your time and sharing. Joel
An excellent series resulting in an outstanding steam plant. I counted at least 6 appearances of the Bahco spanner in the last two episodes.
What a beautiful model thank you for sharing your talents nice music too
I wished, I could buy a machine from you. Perfectly build and adjusted. It calms me down seeing them running at low speed.
I sell most of my models to my Patreon supporters as they get to see the advert videos first. www.patreon.com/keithappleton
Very nice . your videos are quite informative . thank you
you build just wounderful machines. They are lovely
Beautiful! functional art. I always look forward to your videos (even the ones without paint ;) ). Thank you for making them!
I enjoyed this series and the unit look great. Thanks.
The last scenes are very satisfying indeed.
I guess that's the polite way I saying I like the bit where you shut up and we can hear the engine :--)
Keith's unique commentary is definitely a big part of the appeal of these videos.
But hearing the engine go is its own reward in itself.
kieth, i find your videos very intresting. i dont do am model engineering but like steam engines. i find myself addicted to watching hours of your videos and I have started dreaming of barco spanners and trips to blackgate engineering. I am into O Gauge model trains.
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I have to say that watching your last video I was impressed with the copper tube thread cutting tip on the die. However the idea of a mandrel to support the inside of the tube.....im surprised after watching your vids you hadn't thought of that one, but I guess it goes to show to us newbys that an 'ol dog can still learn new tricks lol, learning a lot from your vids so please keep them coming :) my old ML4 will soon be producing masterpieces after watching your tips ;)
Beautiful engine
That is a very nice looking engine. I wonder if you might be able to fit some oilers along some of the places that need more frequent oiling. I have seen that on some of the larger engines. Anyway, it has been a joy to watch as you make this machine better and better. Thank you again for the wonderful videos and forgive my ignorance on these engines.
I think adding so many bends to the exhaust outlet would increase the exhaust back pressure. On full size engines a condensor was used to reclaim water and also to decrease the back pressure of exhaust so as to get maximum work out of the engine.
But this solution was merely to solve the problem of the condensed water from coming out of the exhaust and making a mess of the bench. It being merely for show, you needn't worry about the amount of back pressure so long as it runs.
What a wonderful work! I wonder if you have any practical application for this steam engine. Maybe a sewing machine or something in a workshop?
Fantastic job!!
Have you tried chain saw bar oil it has very good anty fling properties and very high lubricant properties between chain and bar at the cutting section in the wood it has a very long stretch /stringing effect between thump and finger so it is not thrown off easily at speed and temperature cheap as chips from gardening store
Well done
I like it a lot but I'm always sad when a project comes to an end as we don't usually get to see it again for quite a while.
There are currently 880 videos on my channel, maybe you could watch some of them :-)) - and maybe even click on the adverts :-))))))))
On full size engines they have a pressure/vacuum gauge on the condenser. Have you considered adding one to this engine as the condenser is actually large enough to function as one?
I don''t think I could get a vacuum gauge that small to be in scale with the plant ....
Very nice. Did the speed governor work as expected? You mentioned it earlier but have never explained it.
Yes, it does actually work but I have set the linkage so that it doesn't close of the steam inlet so I can run the engine at speed as I did in the recent video.
Hi Keith, love your videos! What size boiler would one need for a Stuart 10H, 10V or S50?? Would one of the Wilesco boilers be sufficient to run these engines?
A 500 or 501 Stuart Boiler would be the smallest one for the job. Forget little toy Wilesco boilers, they run at too low a pressure. A Wilesco boiler will provide just enough steam to turn these engines, but not for long.
Wow, that thing really "moves"! :) Awesome video, thanks so much. Do you plan to sell this complete model?
It's not for sale at the moment, I want to play with it for a while :-))) It really is one of the best steam plants that I have ever had.
To my untrained eye it's a very nice looking unit, Mr. Appleton. About the gas burner, would you guess that it is the same CO emission or more as a burner on a gas cook top or oven?
This burner doesn't set of my CO alarm so I guess it's OK
co should be close to zero with an efficient burner, people use gas cookers with no ventilation, so they tended to be very good burners, you could tell some of keiths burners werent quite so good at the job, hence the co
Look at it go...wow
What would it take to recycle the water from the condenser as is done on full sized engines? I know it's probably not practical in a model engine.
I think that is is not practical or necessary really with a small model engine.
Does that Scotch boiler need a draft to run? Or is the burner enough. Great job, all around
It works just fine as it is .......
Does the governor work, or is it more for show? Or does it just need proper adjustment?
Yes, it does actually work but I have set the linkage so that it doesn't close of the steam inlet so I can run the engine at speed as I did in the recent video.
Why is the cylinder exhaust to the top of the condenser and the cylinder exhaust to the middle? having no knowledge of such things I would have thought if the cylinder exhaust went in the middle and the condenser exhaust at the top would give greater capacity and give cleaner steam to the chimney? is it do with esthetics?
Yes, purely to do with aesthetics - to keep the exhaust pipe from the engine level .... :-))))
Hi keith. I am making a steam plant which has a model water tower to feed the boiler and whilst i was making the tower for the water tank i knocked up another for my condenser. This would put the condensor 300mm above the engine. Do you think this will give me grief? Love your content and im an avid viewer and fabricator
It should be fine in an elevated position. The only problem I have is if (like on the Victoria" Steam Plant) the pipe run after the condenser is a bit too long and some condensation is occurring.
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I got a toy steam engine when I was a child. The platform was about 25x25 cm and you could attach different small machines to it but I couldn't afford them. It was very fun to see it run but I got tired of it pretty quick. As you now know, my experience of steam engines is really limited. With that said. Why does the engine do this? 6:53 Is it designed to only provide power on the push stroke?
Given that this engine has a centrifugal governor, why is it able to run at such speed?
I have now answered this question too many times .... it is is the comments box at the foot of a few videos in this series. The engine is set to be able to go fast because I have adjusted the control arm to not close the valve on the steam chest.....
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the feedback!
What do the spinning balls do
apart from making your eyes water, they are called a "Governor" to stop the engine from over speeding.
Keith Appleton ok thanks 😀😀😀
2nd :)
so what's the deal with the spinning ball thing on top? that just there to look nice? cause it does.
That is the governor to regulate the speed of the engine, the fatser it goes the faster the governor spins and as the balls move outward due to centrifugal force, they operate a lever which reduces the amount of steam admitted to the engine - and slows it down.
oh, that's neat. thanks.