I don’t know if you read the books but she’s one of my favorite characters. she never gets sent back to the north. She is still in the Vail with Peter and you are watching her become more and more politically adept with each chapter. She was a student of Cersei and Peter and she learned well. The Sansa rword storyline with Ramsey but it’s “Arya Stark” (Jayne Poole) She has learned how to play the game of thrones the hard way and I believe it is her not Brans plot magic that will defeat Baelish.
@@keanancupido as a book reader I hate like 90% of the events that happen after season 4, including Sansa. But I liked her before hand, Sansa was always way overrated du to some people lacking critical thinking skills. She failed her family early on but her family specifically parents failed to prepare her for politics and it costed them.
This is why i dont take a lot of game of thrones fans seriously. How do they not realize Sansa saying "the imp" in that tone was on purpose. She doesn't actually dislike him. She's playing a part.
This is like how people were shocked at how it ended… like dont get me wrong i wish a different ending but i just rewatched the show recently and verified: they were planning in it to end the way it did from like two seasons prior because thats when danis character begins to show tells of paranoia and loneliness, like so many people complain about “the unexpected” when its really all well written into the show lol
@thunderdragon3964 Well, that was Robert's misguided decision - to not see his friend's shortcomings. Though, there weren't any really good options, as Rob also needed a loyal Hand.
@@johanna6924I agree their stories were the best with the regression then progression but Theon got the ending he deserved. I would have loved to see something on the hound afterwards though I hate the way his story ended
@@elisaa9981It’s clear from their later interactions that she respects him. She states he was the best of her husbands. She’s trying to make a point here though, and it plays in her favor to refer to him in this tone.
I believe that while they were opportunistic about advancing their family, they did care about Sansa enough to offer her a safer and happier option. Sansa marrying Loras would be two birds with one stone.
That would be their primary purpose, yes. All houses must prioritize their own interests above others. But the Tyrells also weren’t inconsiderate people. Sansa would’ve been treated with alot more respect and dignity had she been legally married to Loras.
Exactly. The concern for her was feigned. In the book they wanted to marry her off to the other brother Willas who was crippled. Not Loras - as he was a much bigger prize, for other potential alliances.
Margeary (and her grandmother) wanted something from her - firsthand information about Joffrey to start with. That meant Sansa had to trust them. And the Winterfell, of course. Which others wanted, too, and Sansa would have to marry someone anyway - Loras wasn't the worst option at the time by any means. Margeary had no reason to be mean to her, and she mostly used positive influence whenever possible. But a friend? No, just a player who wanted something and tried to expand her influence and gain allies.
I wish they'd kept this arc for her instead of adapting the Jeyne Poole storyline. Because here is the culmination of all she's learned. From her mother Catelyn, genteel nobility and reminding old allies of who they should fight for. From Cersei, spinning half-truths and keeping enemies closer than friends. From Margaery, acting the helpless girl while subtly controlling everyone in the room. I wish we'd had the story of Sansa playing the game of Thrones in the Vale. Working out what Baelish intended for her, trying to outmanoeuvre him and ultimately taking power for herself in her own way. Instead we got season 5 and the beginning of the end.
I never liked Sansa. She came in weak and bowed to everything they did. I get why. But bringing in Margery then as a well fleshed out character who has her own personality. Of course then they would see all of Sansa's flaws. She bowed and scraped while Margery stood tall and even thought she could control Joffrey lol. Both characters were well acted out bc I hated them both lmao
@@kristine3356 I feel it is not fair to compare Margery with Sansa. The first one has a few more years behind her, was already named a queen for Renly, had a very powerful and cunning ally with her grand mother (who taught her exactly how to manipulate and charm), she had her brother : eligible bachelor, powerful heir and beautiful. She went to Kings Landing as a victim from Renly with all the helps she could have and get, and all the teaching of how a noble woman must act to survive in the game of thrones. Sansa was a educated through good manners, how to speak and how to act demurely to be a good little lady to an ally of the North. Catelyn was never part of the Game of Thrones. Ned was only a warrior, a knight, valuing honor and truth above all else « you think my life so precious to me ». Everyone in King’s Landing saw their life as more precious than honor and loyalty. And they taught that to their children. It is what made Ned and Catelyn such a good couple : the same vision of what is important. And that made them very fool and bad parents when it came to politics and preparing their children for their role in it. Sansa had to learn how to be fierce, and proud and assured, because every person who hurt her, and traumatized her was still alive and well when she finally came back to Winterfell free. And those 3 features were the common ground for those who took pleasure in hurting her. She had to protect herself, unlike her parents and siblings. So she had to gave up what was their core value, to adopt those of the ones who played her and survived it all. And when she finally start to be as fearsome as them, she see immediate results : she helped in conquering back Winterfell. She avenged herself by killing Ramsey. She protected herself from the scheme of Littlefinger. When still attached to her parents values of honor and truth, she was a pawn. When she finally adapt the ruthlessness of those who played her, she become a player in the game. Margeory was a pawn but loved by one of the most powerful player in game, and she knew she would one day have to become a player on her own. She had a loving and careful mentorship while Sansa learned by being sacrificed at every turn. And one final lesson is : Margeory lost despite being scheming and loved, while Cersei won by being a very powerful b*tch. So she had to become more like Cersei, because at the end of the day : she survived far longer than anyone else in the arene, and Sansa knew it.
The Hound Tried to Protect Sansa and Aryna Always 🤺🗡 Sansa Suffered the Most from Evil Men, Like that Evil, User, Narcissistic Prick, Little Worm 🥹 Along with the Worst, Her Husbands Geoffrey & the Mental Evil Bastard Ramsey, Whom I Hated the Most 😡 Grrrrr, I was Soo Happy, When Sansa Fed Him to His Hounds 👏👏👏 but Finally, She Learned How to Play the Game ✅️ Loved the Hound & Tyrion was also Kind Hearted ❤ Tyrion was also the Most Intelligent, Out of the Entire Lanister Lot ⭐️ Shocked but Loved When He Cross-Bowed His Father on the Throne 😂 💩 😂 I Couldn't Stop Laughing during that episode 😂 My Thoughts were ( A LANISTER ALWAYS PAYS THEIR DEBTS ) LOL 😂
Look at it from her perspective, she was still a child remember. Either stay in KL and be in the custody of the Lannister's (not ideal but she was housed, fed and relatively safe) or Stannis if he had won who wouldn't have harmed her and would be similar but treated far better. Or go on the road with the hound and no one else with a huge price on her head to return her to KL alive. Really not a hard choice, especially since at the time she thought Stannis was gonna win 'the king can die just fine on his own' The hound to Sansa' just before he left.
@@derianvandalsenAgreed also in the books Tyrion is not nearly as innocent as they make him in the show. He genuinely is upset that the 12 year old doesn’t want to fck him and he genuinely desires her. The 12 year old girl 😅
When she says "they married me to the imp" look the show made Tyrion into a great guy but to a 13 year old girl he's a much older man whose family chopped the head off her father and brother. Like chill.
Yes, but that wasn't Tyrion's fault and doesn't change the fact thathe treated her with the utmost respect and dignity, never forced her to consummate the marriage, regardless of Tywin's wishes
See, this Sansa is actually smart. I wish they would have kept her on this arc instead of girl bossing her and making her “the smartest person” that Arya knows. If they would have kept her like this, actually playing the game, I could have believed it. Her actions were actually idiotic in the last season, but to be fair, everyone’s were.
yeah they kinda made everyone act like a marvel superheroes instead of GOT characters it absolutely sucked I was glad Sansa was queen of the north though she deserved it
@@Mizmoon2020ummm since being raised by three of the most political savvy people in the show. Little finger, Cersei, and Tyrion. They all mentored her.
The only good thing about the last 3 seasons is the conversation between Sansa and Arya. Where they acknowledged that they wouldn't have survived what the other did. Cause it cements that one's trauma doesn't invalidate the other and vice versa.
¡Exactamente! Sansa es una de mis favoritas en los libros, se notaba desde un inicio que tenía mucho campo para mejorar, así que no me molestaría que quedara como Reina en el Norte... ¡Como una consecuencia lógica de buenas decisiones! No sólo por el poder del guión 🙄 Pero como dices, todo al final fue tan estúpido.
Still thinking Sansa would have made a great „villain.“ Based on her story to the beginning, it would be so great to see how she turned from an naive little girl to a strong woman seeking for revenge and the blood of anyone who has treated her wrong. (i mean her revenge in battle of bastards was so satisfying and by far her greatest and strongest moment.) But while Arya is just killing the ones who hurt her family, Sansa wouldn’t stop there and instead develops an insatiable bloodlust that ends in a megalomania and hunger for power. And based on what her happene in the past, you would understand her motives and for me the best villians are those with comprehensible motives. So just imagine her fighting and hurting cersei and the tragic when her own family has to stop Sansa, because they begin to fear her bloodlust under what she’s capable of because of that.
I disagree. I like that no matter the hardship Sansa remains strong, feminine and essentially good, but she gets smarter. It shows a different type of feminine strength that isn't popular in stories but should be, in my opinion. What you described is Daenerys' ways, a conquerer's ways. Which makes Sansa and Dany so different.
“the imp saved you” i love tyrion but it wasn’t a complete selfless act. that’s why tywin named tyrion to act as hand and sent him to kingslanding, so he can keep joffrey in line. tyrion knows that joffrey publicly abusing and tormenting his future wife and queen only makes the lannisters look worse. not to mention she was 14 years old when forced to marry tyrion, a grown man who is infamously known for being somewhat perverted and whose family murdered her own. same with margaery, she was nice to sansa because sansa’s the key to the north and if she marries loras, the tyrell’s would have that key in their pocket and in return, power in the largest of the seven kingdoms. i’m sure she appreciates both of them but why would she admit to be friendly with tyrion especially when he’s unanimously hated in the eyrie. sansa is trying to get the lords of the vale to trust her, she’s lying to stay alive and yet you dense fools are taking everything she says in this scene at face value.
Thank you for saving my life Sansa, now let me marry you, a girl im obsessed with and possessive over, to this sadistic monster whom im definetly aware is a sadistic monster. Makes sense.
I think Sansa was too young and too broken already to realise "the imp" was her only friend there. The one who didn't have any other agenda than to protect her
She became one because many of characters who were smarter and braver than her who saved her from dying over and over again. Arya was the actual smart one. The "girl boss" moments from the last two seasons are not in the books, they've yet to even reach that point because GRRM will likely never finish them books. They made her insufferable in that last season and she did stupid mistakes that did not fit what the showrunners wanted her to be.
He said we are all liars here and pretending to be loyal to Joffrey in the midst of her torture was the ultimate lie. It made Tyrion realize she will survive them. She was playing even then: you win or you die.
Poor Ned …common sense was chasing him …but alas he was faster . If only it had caught up to him he might have rethought his actions in kings landing and would still be with us today 😎😎😎
Yohn Royce was the right one. He’s Loyal to Ned Stark and even sided with Sansa when she took down Littlefinger in season 7. He was probably the only likable (even if he can be a bit prideful and a bit judgmental) character in the Vale along with Anya Waynewood. They were willing to protect Sansa.
If she didn't do this ramsay would of never happened. She was too blind to see what a monster littlefinger was . Idk why everyone is calling her smart for this
Loved her in the books, but disliked her in the show. The moment she becomes the queen in the north while her brother sits on the iron throne is one of the dumbest moments in TV history. XD
Waymar royce is a g in the books, even tho lysa is refusing to help robb stark in the war lord royce and pretty much every other vale lord is desperate to join robb and even considered doing so without the arryns permission
They merged two book characters in the show. There two lord eoyce nestor royce from a cadet branch of house royce, who is i believe constellation of moon gate castle and that position is not hereditary. And lord ronze yohn royce who the lord of runestone castle. Whose son waymar joined the night watch and he was in prologue chapter of book.
And he thanked her by having her marry the biggest rapist of them all and be tortured EVEN MORE than she was at Kings Landing? That never happened in the books, so wtf were the writers thinking?
Sansa saved Baelish's ass here. This was her moment of glory. She finally learned how to play the game of thrones. Put all she learned while being a hostage to work.
She said "imp" with disdain, yet Tyrion did the most kindness, The Hound and The Old Lady who did the poison. All of these people did her more justice than Little Finger. He just wanted her to hisself😂
Yeaaaaa… He certainly saved her, didn’t he? *Ahem cough* RAMSEY who? Tyrion was the BEST fkin hubby she could’ve ever had. Not to mention her best ally and friend. Had Joffrey not been killed, imagine how he could’ve saved her and protected her and ultimately helped her regain freedom.
She's a bit of jerk to call Tyrion "The Imp", he treated Sansa with respect, protected her on numerous occasions from the evil Boy king who would attempt to hurt her, humiliated, etc. Tyrion again saves her whenever he's present, marries her, tells her that he won't Force her to have a kid, and let's her lock her own bedroom, if I do recall correctly. Point being, she had a better, honest rescuer with Tyrion than lord Baleish who sold her to Bolton to be graped and hurt. /ungrateful
It's ironic that Tyrion is the only one who actually tried to help her in King's Landing. However, she spitefully cals him the imp and praises the actual guy who conspired to have her father killed. Clueless, naiv, superficial. That's what Sansa was in the first seasons. Or as Arya would later put it, she's "the smartest person I know"
She's obviously lying throughout her story, twisting the story to put Littlefinger in a better light, because his protection is the only one she has at the moment, and she needs the lords of the Vale to like both him and herself
I have a lot of problems with Sansa somehow... Haven't read the books tho, but thw show Sansa isn't my piece of bread and sometimes I would just make her dissapear. 😅
@@Laruto722 of course not but she knew the difference between life and death and as we are aware every action has a consequence, I would have preferred she died instead of Ned at lest his life ment something of value
The Imp was the only one who treated you with dignity and respect, protected you, and stood up for you. The imp was truly your only friend. But obviously, you can't tell that bit of truth.
Oh ya Little Finger had plans on tagging that ass along the way but fell short on that but only that one of slickest on GOT ....but he paid for his B.S . in the end
I never like her character but I had a lot of sympathy for her character when she was in kings landing but her she turned into a slimy politician and lost all the respect I had for her immediately. Danny went through so much more and never compromise on her values and character.
The moment she began playing the game of thrones.
I don’t know if you read the books but she’s one of my favorite characters. she never gets sent back to the north. She is still in the Vail with Peter and you are watching her become more and more politically adept with each chapter. She was a student of Cersei and Peter and she learned well. The Sansa rword storyline with Ramsey but it’s “Arya Stark” (Jayne Poole)
She has learned how to play the game of thrones the hard way and I believe it is her not Brans plot magic that will defeat Baelish.
@@notaseal7864Sameee! I love her in the books. I also liked her on the show!
@@keanancupido as a book reader I hate like 90% of the events that happen after season 4, including Sansa. But I liked her before hand, Sansa was always way overrated du to some people lacking critical thinking skills. She failed her family early on but her family specifically parents failed to prepare her for politics and it costed them.
@@keanancupidowhenever i saw the title Sansa i wanted to stop reading.
@@Keciel wait really?? I always enjoyed her chapters. Especially the ones from a storm of swords
This is why i dont take a lot of game of thrones fans seriously. How do they not realize Sansa saying "the imp" in that tone was on purpose. She doesn't actually dislike him. She's playing a part.
Huh, do viewers seriously not realise that she's fibbing? Nobody in their right mind would also call Littlefinger a friend unless they were lying
Right? She knew she could use the marriage as an angle to gain sympathy.
Bit over dramatic aren’t you.
@@thespear4083 lol wtf? Are you ok?
This is like how people were shocked at how it ended… like dont get me wrong i wish a different ending but i just rewatched the show recently and verified: they were planning in it to end the way it did from like two seasons prior because thats when danis character begins to show tells of paranoia and loneliness, like so many people complain about “the unexpected” when its really all well written into the show lol
She had better survival instincts than her dad.
He was a soldier, not a politician.
@CrazyAim8 shouldn't have become the hand to rule then 🤷
Poor Ned was terrible at the game of thrones
@thunderdragon3964 Well, that was Robert's misguided decision - to not see his friend's shortcomings. Though, there weren't any really good options, as Rob also needed a loyal Hand.
@@MiljaHahto he should have made Stannis his hand, and if Stannis found out the truth about Joffrey he wouldn't have played around like Ned
Tyrion is the only one that treated her with any dignity or kindness. Theon may have helped her, but not before he betrayed their entire family.
Still theons ark is the best in the whole Show Hand in Hand With the hound... Both deserved sooo much better endings
@@johanna6924I agree their stories were the best with the regression then progression but Theon got the ending he deserved. I would have loved to see something on the hound afterwards though I hate the way his story ended
@@AlyseA1689 kinda... I would have liked theon to be Sansas guard for the Rest of His Life to pay back... But also He Kinda payed His due
Yes, she could have referred to him more kindly instead of "...the ymp." That was ungrateful.
@@elisaa9981It’s clear from their later interactions that she respects him. She states he was the best of her husbands. She’s trying to make a point here though, and it plays in her favor to refer to him in this tone.
Remember when plots actually mattered for a hot minute?
yes, the good days!!!
lol Okay!! 🤷🏽♀️🤣
Margery and Olena weren’t trying to marry her to Loras to save her, they wanted to marry her to Loras to secure Winterfell for them.
Yeah and how's that gonna work loras is gay they think it's a secret but even commen soldiers know he fucks renly
I believe that while they were opportunistic about advancing their family, they did care about Sansa enough to offer her a safer and happier option. Sansa marrying Loras would be two birds with one stone.
i mean yeah, but they clearly view her getting away from the abuse as a happy side effect.
That would be their primary purpose, yes. All houses must prioritize their own interests above others. But the Tyrells also weren’t inconsiderate people. Sansa would’ve been treated with alot more respect and dignity had she been legally married to Loras.
Exactly. The concern for her was feigned. In the book they wanted to marry her off to the other brother Willas who was crippled. Not Loras - as he was a much bigger prize, for other potential alliances.
The moment she start learning and playing THE GAME
Margeary was a pretty good friend to her ngl, trying to save her by marrying her to Loras and all
it was only a political move to secure the heir to winterfell
And also making her seem like a normal young girl with their playful banter.
@@aBcEarth1 in the books she isn't even promised to Loras
Margeary (and her grandmother) wanted something from her - firsthand information about Joffrey to start with. That meant Sansa had to trust them.
And the Winterfell, of course. Which others wanted, too, and Sansa would have to marry someone anyway - Loras wasn't the worst option at the time by any means.
Margeary had no reason to be mean to her, and she mostly used positive influence whenever possible. But a friend? No, just a player who wanted something and tried to expand her influence and gain allies.
I love Margery but she has no Sansa's friend, once she was married to the imp and lost her politic value she was coldly ignored.
I wish they'd kept this arc for her instead of adapting the Jeyne Poole storyline.
Because here is the culmination of all she's learned. From her mother Catelyn, genteel nobility and reminding old allies of who they should fight for. From Cersei, spinning half-truths and keeping enemies closer than friends. From Margaery, acting the helpless girl while subtly controlling everyone in the room.
I wish we'd had the story of Sansa playing the game of Thrones in the Vale. Working out what Baelish intended for her, trying to outmanoeuvre him and ultimately taking power for herself in her own way. Instead we got season 5 and the beginning of the end.
Yes!!
I never liked Sansa. She came in weak and bowed to everything they did. I get why. But bringing in Margery then as a well fleshed out character who has her own personality. Of course then they would see all of Sansa's flaws. She bowed and scraped while Margery stood tall and even thought she could control Joffrey lol. Both characters were well acted out bc I hated them both lmao
@@kristine3356 I feel it is not fair to compare Margery with Sansa. The first one has a few more years behind her, was already named a queen for Renly, had a very powerful and cunning ally with her grand mother (who taught her exactly how to manipulate and charm), she had her brother : eligible bachelor, powerful heir and beautiful. She went to Kings Landing as a victim from Renly with all the helps she could have and get, and all the teaching of how a noble woman must act to survive in the game of thrones.
Sansa was a educated through good manners, how to speak and how to act demurely to be a good little lady to an ally of the North. Catelyn was never part of the Game of Thrones. Ned was only a warrior, a knight, valuing honor and truth above all else « you think my life so precious to me ». Everyone in King’s Landing saw their life as more precious than honor and loyalty. And they taught that to their children. It is what made Ned and Catelyn such a good couple : the same vision of what is important.
And that made them very fool and bad parents when it came to politics and preparing their children for their role in it.
Sansa had to learn how to be fierce, and proud and assured, because every person who hurt her, and traumatized her was still alive and well when she finally came back to Winterfell free. And those 3 features were the common ground for those who took pleasure in hurting her.
She had to protect herself, unlike her parents and siblings. So she had to gave up what was their core value, to adopt those of the ones who played her and survived it all. And when she finally start to be as fearsome as them, she see immediate results : she helped in conquering back Winterfell. She avenged herself by killing Ramsey. She protected herself from the scheme of Littlefinger.
When still attached to her parents values of honor and truth, she was a pawn. When she finally adapt the ruthlessness of those who played her, she become a player in the game.
Margeory was a pawn but loved by one of the most powerful player in game, and she knew she would one day have to become a player on her own. She had a loving and careful mentorship while Sansa learned by being sacrificed at every turn.
And one final lesson is : Margeory lost despite being scheming and loved, while Cersei won by being a very powerful b*tch. So she had to become more like Cersei, because at the end of the day : she survived far longer than anyone else in the arene, and Sansa knew it.
Margaery never acted helpless though.
I think the hound also tried to help her and protect her but she refused his help.
The Hound Tried to Protect Sansa and Aryna Always 🤺🗡 Sansa Suffered the Most from Evil Men, Like that Evil, User, Narcissistic Prick, Little Worm 🥹 Along with the Worst, Her Husbands Geoffrey & the Mental Evil Bastard Ramsey, Whom I Hated the Most 😡 Grrrrr, I was Soo Happy, When Sansa Fed Him to His Hounds 👏👏👏 but Finally, She Learned How to Play the Game ✅️ Loved the Hound & Tyrion was also Kind Hearted ❤ Tyrion was also the Most Intelligent, Out of the Entire Lanister Lot ⭐️ Shocked but Loved When He Cross-Bowed His Father on the Throne 😂 💩 😂 I Couldn't Stop Laughing during that episode 😂 My Thoughts were ( A LANISTER ALWAYS PAYS THEIR DEBTS ) LOL 😂
Yup
@@freidagreenfield6270speak English
That is because she didn't know who to trust.
Look at it from her perspective, she was still a child remember. Either stay in KL and be in the custody of the Lannister's (not ideal but she was housed, fed and relatively safe) or Stannis if he had won who wouldn't have harmed her and would be similar but treated far better.
Or go on the road with the hound and no one else with a huge price on her head to return her to KL alive. Really not a hard choice, especially since at the time she thought Stannis was gonna win 'the king can die just fine on his own' The hound to Sansa' just before he left.
The imp saved you.
He did
But, given Tyrion's less than stellar reputation in the Vale... distancing helps here.
@@derianvandalsenAgreed also in the books Tyrion is not nearly as innocent as they make him in the show. He genuinely is upset that the 12 year old doesn’t want to fck him and he genuinely desires her. The 12 year old girl 😅
She’s playing the game
She has to play a part
When she says "they married me to the imp" look the show made Tyrion into a great guy but to a 13 year old girl he's a much older man whose family chopped the head off her father and brother. Like chill.
I Wasn't Expecting Ned Stark to Die Soo Soon in the Series 😢😭😢💔 Really Traumatic Scene Especially for Sansa & Arnya 😢 Everyone 😢
At this point she's playing, though. It fits her speach to make marrying "the imp" also very miserable.
That's not it. She's saying what she has to say IN THIS MOMENT
Duh
Yes, but that wasn't Tyrion's fault and doesn't change the fact thathe treated her with the utmost respect and dignity, never forced her to consummate the marriage, regardless of Tywin's wishes
See, this Sansa is actually smart. I wish they would have kept her on this arc instead of girl bossing her and making her “the smartest person” that Arya knows. If they would have kept her like this, actually playing the game, I could have believed it. Her actions were actually idiotic in the last season, but to be fair, everyone’s were.
yeah they kinda made everyone act like a marvel superheroes instead of GOT characters it absolutely sucked I was glad Sansa was queen of the north though she deserved it
I was like “Sansa? The smartest person ever? Since when exactly?” Eff season 8 with a rusty knife.
@@Mizmoon2020ummm since being raised by three of the most political savvy people in the show. Little finger, Cersei, and Tyrion. They all mentored her.
The only good thing about the last 3 seasons is the conversation between Sansa and Arya. Where they acknowledged that they wouldn't have survived what the other did. Cause it cements that one's trauma doesn't invalidate the other and vice versa.
¡Exactamente! Sansa es una de mis favoritas en los libros, se notaba desde un inicio que tenía mucho campo para mejorar, así que no me molestaría que quedara como Reina en el Norte... ¡Como una consecuencia lógica de buenas decisiones! No sólo por el poder del guión 🙄 Pero como dices, todo al final fue tan estúpido.
The imp showed her compassion....
That whole speach is an act. Though some things are 100% true, not all is - she just started playing the Game of Thrones.
Still thinking Sansa would have made a great „villain.“ Based on her story to the beginning, it would be so great to see how she turned from an naive little girl to a strong woman seeking for revenge and the blood of anyone who has treated her wrong. (i mean her revenge in battle of bastards was so satisfying and by far her greatest and strongest moment.) But while Arya is just killing the ones who hurt her family, Sansa wouldn’t stop there and instead develops an insatiable bloodlust that ends in a megalomania and hunger for power. And based on what her happene in the past, you would understand her motives and for me the best villians are those with comprehensible motives. So just imagine her fighting and hurting cersei and the tragic when her own family has to stop Sansa, because they begin to fear her bloodlust under what she’s capable of because of that.
That's why ppl defend Daenerys, but if it was Sansa becoming a villain, ppl would hate her.
I disagree. I like that no matter the hardship Sansa remains strong, feminine and essentially good, but she gets smarter. It shows a different type of feminine strength that isn't popular in stories but should be, in my opinion. What you described is Daenerys' ways, a conquerer's ways. Which makes Sansa and Dany so different.
Yeah but she was never ment to be a villian, she is Cersei's counterpart. She is the anti-Cersei.
Tyrion was her only true friend, but he knew he could not help her because his family hated him more than anyone.
It’s crazy when you realize the ENTIRETY of game of thrones was caused by little finger
And Varys
Exactly
And he said she was too stupid to lie. Lol..she did pretty good for a beginner!
Great acting by Sophie Turner
Littlefinger getting the biggest hard-on of his life when sansa said "he saved me 😍"
He’s a nasty
“the imp saved you” i love tyrion but it wasn’t a complete selfless act. that’s why tywin named tyrion to act as hand and sent him to kingslanding, so he can keep joffrey in line. tyrion knows that joffrey publicly abusing and tormenting his future wife and queen only makes the lannisters look worse. not to mention she was 14 years old when forced to marry tyrion, a grown man who is infamously known for being somewhat perverted and whose family murdered her own. same with margaery, she was nice to sansa because sansa’s the key to the north and if she marries loras, the tyrell’s would have that key in their pocket and in return, power in the largest of the seven kingdoms. i’m sure she appreciates both of them but why would she admit to be friendly with tyrion especially when he’s unanimously hated in the eyrie. sansa is trying to get the lords of the vale to trust her, she’s lying to stay alive and yet you dense fools are taking everything she says in this scene at face value.
LOL yeah ur right
Let's not forget the Hound also helped her.
Thank you for saving my life Sansa, now let me marry you, a girl im obsessed with and possessive over, to this sadistic monster whom im definetly aware is a sadistic monster. Makes sense.
Exacly poor Sansa. But she got her Revenge because it was her who took down Baelish.
I think Sansa was too young and too broken already to realise "the imp" was her only friend there. The one who didn't have any other agenda than to protect her
she knows it, she's just acting. Tyrion has a bad reputation in Vale.
Read the book, Tyrion molested her on their wedding night and only backed off bc she was shivering and in fear and that turned him off
He saved her and them he finally destroyed her and tried once more, but finally he meet Aria one more time for the last time
He tried but he didn't destroyed her. She ended up destroying him. Sansa had the last word.
Lord Royce looks like hes continuously shitting brix during Sansa's mummery
Sansa Stark is my favorite!! A complete overcomer who became queen! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
She became one because many of characters who were smarter and braver than her who saved her from dying over and over again. Arya was the actual smart one. The "girl boss" moments from the last two seasons are not in the books, they've yet to even reach that point because GRRM will likely never finish them books. They made her insufferable in that last season and she did stupid mistakes that did not fit what the showrunners wanted her to be.
She impressed Littlefinger
Hott! 🔥🔥🔥
Little finger subtly smiling in the background...
@@irawise8315 yep lol
He said we are all liars here and pretending to be loyal to Joffrey in the midst of her torture was the ultimate lie. It made Tyrion realize she will survive them. She was playing even then: you win or you die.
Little finger told many lies to protect and advance HIMSELF!
I'm sure Sansa has figured that out before that scene. Indeed she's even heard the evidence.
Sansa forever! She learned, she did good and she won.
Tyrian was her her only true friend at Kings Landing
The North remembers
Poor Ned …common sense was chasing him …but alas he was faster . If only it had caught up to him he might have rethought his actions in kings landing and would still be with us today 😎😎😎
Sansa kept trusting all the wrong people and not trusting all the right ones.
Yohn Royce was the right one. He’s Loyal to Ned Stark and even sided with Sansa when she took down Littlefinger in season 7. He was probably the only likable (even if he can be a bit prideful and a bit judgmental) character in the Vale along with Anya Waynewood. They were willing to protect Sansa.
Not sure she fully trusted Littlefinger after watching him kill her aunt.
She learnt to play the game. She's a slow learner but she learnt to play a little game.
If she didn't do this ramsay would of never happened. She was too blind to see what a monster littlefinger was . Idk why everyone is calling her smart for this
I actually like sansa chapters. Wasnt expecting that after the show
Loved her in the books, but disliked her in the show. The moment she becomes the queen in the north while her brother sits on the iron throne is one of the dumbest moments in TV history. XD
Too bad Baelish sold her to the Boltons. He might have had a chance
"marriede to an imp" I get it she need to say it for sympathy but I still sad because the imp is the only one who is kind to her
Tyrion would have been fine with her saying it because she needed to do so to survive.
And Scene for the actress!!
Even in a time with CCTV, she probably still could've pulled this off. King's Landing was her Hell, but it taught her how to survive.
Wait does that mean she is still married to a Lanister!
She is, yes.
Technically, they’ve never consummated the marriage, so it can be annulled.
The imp was actually her only friend
Waymar royce is a g in the books, even tho lysa is refusing to help robb stark in the war lord royce and pretty much every other vale lord is desperate to join robb and even considered doing so without the arryns permission
Yonn royce you mean
@@thanos_karagiannhs5320 oh shit ye waymars his son
Not because of Robb. Because loyalty to their liege Jon Arryns that Lannisters murdered
Should have Lysa was fucking nuts
They merged two book characters in the show. There two lord eoyce nestor royce from a cadet branch of house royce, who is i believe constellation of moon gate castle and that position is not hereditary. And lord ronze yohn royce who the lord of runestone castle. Whose son waymar joined the night watch and he was in prologue chapter of book.
She's a young Elizabeth I here.
i didn’t even remember this moment from GOT
SAME
And he thanked her by having her marry the biggest rapist of them all and be tortured EVEN MORE than she was at Kings Landing?
That never happened in the books, so wtf were the writers thinking?
😂😂😂😂 Theresa, that dumpster diving is 🔥 😂😂😂
This was one of her Best scenes, after she cried and looks up at him, she was in it.
She insulted the imp to get on the good side of these people
For a woman of her standing, the disgraced , whoring second son is an insult.
If she had left with the hound she never would have met with her traumas.
that was ARYA"S DESTINY
Charles 😂 Lawton
Sansa ended up winning the game of thrones.
“WHATS THIS THE FUCKIN UN NOW?!”
Petyr and Sansa should have teamed together and taken the throne or died trying
Littlefinger betrays everyone
Only a fool would trust little finger
@@mohammeduzair7796Sansa is a fool. Definitely could go that way in the books.
@@dillonmartin7411 don't know about books but after escaping KingsLanding she started learning how to play the game
@@mohammeduzair7796I don't think Sansa should have ended up with him but the fact she killed him in the show was really lame.
"Then he sold me to Boltons."
"You little worm!"
Sansa saved Baelish's ass here. This was her moment of glory. She finally learned how to play the game of thrones. Put all she learned while being a hostage to work.
Oh my god it's Mr. Hurst from the '95 pride and prejudice! "Damn silly way to spend an evening!"
Lord Baelish is sooo good looking!
She said "imp" with disdain, yet Tyrion did the most kindness, The Hound and The Old Lady who did the poison. All of these people did her more justice than Little Finger. He just wanted her to hisself😂
She had it the worst and had to be the most clever.
Yeaaaaa…
He certainly saved her, didn’t he?
*Ahem cough* RAMSEY who?
Tyrion was the BEST fkin hubby she could’ve ever had. Not to mention her best ally and friend. Had Joffrey not been killed, imagine how he could’ve saved her and protected her and ultimately helped her regain freedom.
Watching these clips makes me qant to rewatch the series. 😊😊
Sansa’s betrayal of Littlefinger was one of the better things to come from the later half of GOT
And here we thought sansa has started to cook, little did we know she was about to be served to ramsey cooked roasted and ready by littlefinger
her story arc was incredible, and very underrated, she became so clever and fierce and saved that useless Jon Snow more than once.
When she finally began playing, instead of being a pawn.
His son, Waymer Royce, died in the opening scenes of the show.
She's a bit of jerk to call Tyrion "The Imp", he treated Sansa with respect, protected her on numerous occasions from the evil Boy king who would attempt to hurt her, humiliated, etc. Tyrion again saves her whenever he's present, marries her, tells her that he won't Force her to have a kid, and let's her lock her own bedroom, if I do recall correctly. Point being, she had a better, honest rescuer with Tyrion than lord Baleish who sold her to Bolton to be graped and hurt. /ungrateful
She's well aware that he was decent to her, but right now, in front of these people, she *has* to lie. She's not ungrateful at all.
She had one friend for sure... but it was the Hound.
She learned a valuable lesson….NEVER go against your father…if he says don’t marry Joffrey…her answer should have been Yes Father…
AHH U CUT OUT THE BEST PART
The whole mess Sansa found herself in was kind of her own doing. She thirsted to be queen so bad. She made bad choices from the beginning.
Imp and the hound were the only one!!
She played the game well. ❤
It's ironic that Tyrion is the only one who actually tried to help her in King's Landing. However, she spitefully cals him the imp and praises the actual guy who conspired to have her father killed. Clueless, naiv, superficial. That's what Sansa was in the first seasons.
Or as Arya would later put it, she's "the smartest person I know"
She's obviously lying throughout her story, twisting the story to put Littlefinger in a better light, because his protection is the only one she has at the moment, and she needs the lords of the Vale to like both him and herself
Let it be known that eyrie never forgets ones kin
“They married me to the imp”. The best husband ever.
I have a lot of problems with Sansa somehow... Haven't read the books tho, but thw show Sansa isn't my piece of bread and sometimes I would just make her dissapear. 😅
That imp was the most decent human in the entire king's landing.
Yes of course, but she's lying for a reason
Her own Father Ned asked her to leave with him and the others but she put her wants and needs above that of her families lives i hated her character
You expect a 13 year old to be wise and cunning?
@@Laruto722 of course not but she knew the difference between life and death and as we are aware every action has a consequence, I would have preferred she died instead of Ned at lest his life ment something of value
They literally had to dumb down other characters in the show to make Sansa's character work in the last few seasons... So ridiculous.
The Imp was the only one who treated you with dignity and respect, protected you, and stood up for you. The imp was truly your only friend.
But obviously, you can't tell that bit of truth.
This was purely tactical. As much as I dislike Sansa, she didn’t need to let them know that she had an alliance, however brief, with a Lannister.
This is the moment Alyane became Sansa Stark
The imp was the best husband you ever got lady
But putting Tyrion up would not work in the Vale, he's very unpopular there. Sansa chooses her words for this particular audience.
Littlefinger: I'm gonna go ahead and...
(entire Game of Thrones series happens)
Little finger, the saviour
Yet that Imp was the only one who respected her
The imp was the only one who respected her
Sophie knocked this scene out of the. Pity that after this pretty much all her scripts were naff.
Whenever i saw a scene of her disrespecting Tyrion I watch all the scenes of her hard times
You know that she's lying to these people, right?
I hated her all because of how she treated the so called imp like dude he actually gave you the respect you didn’t deserve bruh
The hound was your only friend in kings landing
She have to say these words.
The Queen of Thorns saved you😅
Movie/series titel ??
FOR HER SAKE ?...YES !!.😮
Oh ya Little Finger had plans on tagging that ass along the way but fell short on that but only that one of slickest on GOT ....but he paid for his B.S . in the end
I never like her character but I had a lot of sympathy for her character when she was in kings landing but her she turned into a slimy politician and lost all the respect I had for her immediately. Danny went through so much more and never compromise on her values and character.
If tyrion and sansa were together , tyrion may have become king of the north 😎or warden of the north