This is genuinely insane. Imagine in a world where grocery stores have no prices on the shelves but you're told you can find out after you get home and look at your credit card statement.
some delivary have miner to major complications .. so they use this as an excuse not to disclose information... its like " i know there might be some complications.. but can u give me a quote how much i need to prepare if everything ends up ok without complication" "sorry sir. we cant."
This looks like torture, i cant even watch him make all these calls, being transferred, no one picking up, being hung up on. NIGHTMARE i hate calling ANYWHERE.
As a German everything about this astounds me. I‘ve never even seen a hospital bill in my life. My hospital delivery and 3 day hospital stay cost us 30 bucks, including parking.
If they are treating healthcare as a commodity then they should be subject to consumer rights such as the right to be informed or the right to be heard.
Dialysis is actually the only part of US healthcare that is 100% covered. This actually causes more issues with companies profiting off of keeping people on Dialysis instead of transplants as well as rushed and poor quality visits all because its handled privately then paid by the government.
How many snacks because a packet of crisps is like maximum £1 and chocolate is pretty cheap and fizzy drinks aren't usually up to a quid but sometimes it's over a pound depending on if the size.
I went to an emergency room for swollen lower legs, worried it may be bacteremia. I was seen by an ER doctor who said it was not bacteremia, just edema. I was not given any medication, no tests, no blood drawn, no IV, etc etc, literally just a bed for about 15 minutes while I waited for the doctor. So, for 3 minutes of his time and me taking up a bed for about 15 minutes: $1,800+. Criminal.
go to urgent care instead if you are not dying or it is not an emergency but an urgency. Of course USA's medical system is crazy af, but occupying a bed in emergency care makes you pay ten fold
Well, yeah, it's criminal, but it is business, you see. Medicine is about maintaining the patient & no longer involves healing methods. It's about money, control, and power & bowing down to their little god-like status. I'm sorry if I sound bitter & cynical, but I am bitter & cynical. I have had too many negative dealings with these so called doctors. The last doctor who acted like my doctors when I was very young was in 1985. They were good, caring doctors, but they're dead now. Now we have this money mad trash acting like they are doctors, attend the Rockefeller medical schools, & attempt to force you to have procedures you really do not need, procedures that quite often cost a chunk of change. I have learned not to take them at face value & to question everything they say, and they often lie, too. The endocrinologist I see talked about "products & services." He sounded like a damn used car salesman. The most people can do is research in depth. And you might be shocked at what you discover as the result.
Jessica Insua where I am, I can’t go to urgent care without a referral from my primary care (which takes time for insurance to process) so when I need to be seen quickly ER is my only choice. It’s nonsense
In Russia you have general health insurance which cover costs of birth in hospital. You can pay a bit more if you want services above standard like own room in hospital etc. But mainly, here is so called mothernity capital, which means that state pay mother for giving a birth. For first child its 466 000 rubles (about 7990 usd) and for each another child its 616 000 rubles (about 10 550 usd).
Gabriel Cotto going directly to the hospital and not your insurance agency is genuinely retarded and a waste of hospital staffs time. Get frustrated due to incompetence. 😁
indusrtial nurses and doctors have no clue what you'll pay even for somthing as simple as an xray or stitches, let alone a birth that can range from one to twenty-four hours easy.
My favorite part about hospital visit is when they tell you “don’t worry about the cost now we’ll deal with that later, let’s take care of this first.” Proceeds to charge you a third of a average mortgage or most times more and expects you to just deal with it.
I feel like this is probably illegal. It seems like it would be illegal to have someone be able to sell something without disclosing the price until after the purchase.
I haven't watched the video yet, but their OB-GYN should have given them an estimated cost spreadsheet to look over and sign. Did they not have a preganacy doctor?
For everyone else besides the healthcare industry, yes it would be illegal. But the US healthcare industry are the only ones, who’s doesn’t have to disclose prices. It’s even legal for them to actively hide them, or force you to not disclose any knowledge you have of the cost.
Expensive. Down here in New Zealand, many public hospitals sold off their parking buildings to the private sector, because it was 'more efficient'. Daily parking costs in most areas immediately doubled. Up to $20/day now.
Maybe not true for the rest of Canada, but in my city, the hospitals have stopped charging for parking during the pandemic! So our last child was free! (Yes yes, I know it's not free, but covered by our taxes)
Here in Greece we don't pay for parking at the hospital. But we pay a little fee. If I remember right I payed something like 15€. Edit: the fee is for some hospital bureaucracy.
Yeah in Portugal idk if its 24euros or 12. But emergencies are free. The parking depends on where. But if you pay you might get the money back. But the Taxi and/or Ambulance are quite expensive
Come to Canada Folks! It's like an America, but colder and free health care! Wooo! My sister had a complicated birth with her twins, was in hospital for 4 days, and didn't have to pay a dime !
In the land called Australia, this is illegal. The Australian Consumer Law (Schedule 2) requires all services to disclose all fees before any service is being carried out, if not, the fees may generally not be enforceable. But it doesn't really matter, as Australians have Medicare, the nation-wide all covered medical expenses' system for all permanent residents and citizens.
I am sorry to hear that, but in the US, it is highly unlikely that a nation-wide medical system can be established. Here in Australia, while doctors do earn a bit higher, it is nothing like the US count-parts, hospitals have a set of regulated fees, all covered, while external specialists and GPs can charge higher, but not too much, as otherwise, they will lose out on no customers.
Tony Ka I should have know better but when I started doing things on my own I went and got a check up at the doctors office. From times I’d been before you just show the insurance card and I can go on with my day. Well the women “offered” me a flu shot and I took it thinking why not and it cost me like 200 bucks outside of the insurance. That’s when I had to realize that I need to pay attention to what’s going on during a visit. Practically like I’m going shopping.
@Life or death Haste or ras mostly Europe is astounded because they pay bigger taxes but have real rights to (good and free) education and healthcare. Unless you have a bussiness or are rich, I would not live in the US as a regular, minimum-medium (less than 20 per hour) wage worker...
*What I've learned from this video* #1. Try not to use anything that you do not NEED from the hospital. #2. Bring your own drinks and small snacks so you aren't forced to use theirs. #3. Try to get in and out!!. #4. They want your money and will try to take as much of it as possible.
$16.848 of which you are charged $841 for an uncomplicated child birth ? My daughter just gave birth in a hospital here in Denmark, and the total cost for that was $0. Lots can be said about huge taxes and what not, but if you take everything into account, we might be taxed alot, but the fact that we do not pay anything out of pocket for social services and/or health care, is more than worth it all.
You pay almost $6400 in taxs per year for your healthcare. However you want to look at it, you still pay. Maybe no fee out of pocket beings they allready took it from your pocket. Now you still pay every year till death regaurdless if you use it or not. Id rather only pay when i use it then to be forced to pay when i dont use it.
I don't know from where you get that amount. Could you supply a link ? None the less, if i should end up hospitalized, i'll have NO co-pay charges, not like in the US where an open heart surgery to save my life, would bankrupt me and my family in literally a heartbeat, regardless of insurance. Don't talk to me about "sub par" health care.
Hi, I'm from Canada. :) We also pay higher taxes in order to receive free healthcare. I see often that Americans like to use the argument 'but you pay for it in taxes!'. Yes that's true, but on average Americans pay more for healthcare than us Canadians do in our taxes. Google it! So next time you want to use the argument that we are paying more, just remember that you are wrong :)
Well, this film pretty much explains the problem of the US healthcare system... The only country in the developed world that doesn't have national health system. I do feel sorry for US Americans having to deal with this poor system....
thankfully I’ve never been to the hospital but I probably will sooner or later and I’m like scared like Vdkeosososis I shouldn’t be worrying about this!
@ And why would the price be clearly marked for each procedure if it was a true free market system and what prevents hospitals from doing it now? And while it's true that we don't necessarily know how much the state pays for each individual procedure in a national healthcare system what we can see is that the US spends twice as much per capita and 50% more as percentage of GDP than the average developed country on healthcare which means it costs more. While many factors contribute to this the biggest by far is estimated to be the difference in negotiating power between a single national healthcare system and several independent private insurance companies. Which I find quite ironic because one of the main arguments for free market capitalism is that it makes things cheaper due to competition.
Alien Titty - Dude's wife didn't have any problems during childbirth and was charged $16, 000. Maybe you didn't get the point or you're just dumb, but thanks for your 2 cents.
You can’t have a baby in your house unless you hire professionals to help you. Even if you accidental have it in a place that wasn’t ideal you’d have to call the hospital because you need a birth certificate and social security. The government controls everything. There’s no way to have a baby without paying in America
Somebody is paying for it. The US is huge and extremely inefficient. Maybe each state could have their own health care plan, but it wouldn't be perfect.
Yeah exactly! The fact that stuff like this, or normalized hospital care in general isn't covered from something like a government tax fund so that you don't have to pour out of your own wallet is just another disturbing brick in the horror house that is the United States of America.
Actually in many European countries we do have to pay “to give birth”. It can be surprising, but in Belgium a single room in a maternity ward, for a couple of days, can be even more expensive than the final price that this family of the video has paid (counting already with the insurance discounts).
Samuel Grahame you definitely have a choice. I gave birth where I wanted because with my first 2 the doctors weren’t in so I had to use who was available so going to “your doctor” may not even me an option and with my 4th he was delivered so fast that the nurse basically caught him lol Not one doctor even in the room. Research the hospital as a whole and the prices. You’ll be set from there. If you’re in active labor no one on their right mind will turn you away...
@@Vasselco in Australia public hospitals are free. My wife had her own room. We do not have doctors in the room unless needed. Only a nurse. I was in the room while my wife was giving birth. Hospital was very good. My son had to have a suction to help him come out at the end. She stayed in hospital for 3 days. They gave her meals and our baby stayed in the same room as my wife. They allowed me to visit 24-7. Even giving me food while I was there. We had all our scans all free and our doctor booked us all appointments for the hospital and checkups. We were only 10 minutes drive from the hospital so we were very lucky
As a sick British teenager I am glad I am British and not American and feel sorry for you because you are so happy about that. You are happy you are getting freedom of information.
Yes they have to give you their prices. But assuming you have insurance what they're giving you is not what you will pay. And that's probably why it took so long for him to get a straight answer. Because it depends on which insurance company you have and what kind of policy you have how much you are paying out of pocket. It's not even what insurance company. It is also what policy you've picked and who your employer is. For example my husband is a nurse at a hospital. If I go to the hospital where he works or one of their sister hospitals I'm going to pay a lot less after insurance then somebody with the same insurance company because I have a different policy. However if I want to go to a different hospital I'm going to pay a lot more out-of-pocket then somebody with the same Insurance Company who does not work for the hospital
Imagine negotiating health care costs on a case by case basis instead of having a centralized system that negotiates for everyone across the board, which lowers costs dramatically. It's almost like the health insurance companies are mob-like middle men standing between patients and Doctors. They provide nothing, add cost, and add bureaucracy...
+Half_Centaur Heck, you could get a pound of veal chops from D'Artagnan for $24.99. Even if the baby weighs 10-pounds, that's only $250. Not a good return on your investment.
You guys must have some damn good insurance if you only have to pay $800 off a $I6,000 bill! I recently had a tumor removed from my spinal cord and had to stay in the hospital for 3 nights. NOT including the surgeon fee, the hospital has already charged me close to $65,000 in fees. UPDATE: The bills are up to $100K now.
@dinar andfriends If they don't have money to pay a hospital bill, what makes you think they had the money for moving, passports, etc?? That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say. Most of us would love to leave.
@@bellejolie2506 and the taxpayers dont even have to pay that much as things are REGULATED (the things that governments are SUPPOSED to do with the money and power the citizens provide it with)
I live in the US. Had a routine childbirth, stayed in the hospital just under 2 full days: Hospital services price: $30,000. I paid $270 after insurance coverage. This does not include the $340 I paid for my obstetrician to come last minute and deliver baby. Obstetrician cost before insurance coverage: $5,000.
My 2nd baby was 3w early, I stayed 6 days mostly just to monitor her because of low birth weight. I had medicaid luckily because even if it was only a day long stay i could never have paid what it would have cost. For people who give birth well before their due date like 30w give or take with lots of complications I can't imagine their costs. Can't imagine what twins, triplets(etc) cost either, do they charge per baby? Wouldn't be surprised. First baby was kicked out right at 24hrs after admitting me, guess they needed the bed free for the next baby.
You are still free to declare bankruptcy and go die on the curb......Unless they then mistake you for a homeless person and treat you like the trash next to the bin!
When I got the breakdown of my bill after delivery they had a lot of prices on there that were not self explanatory when I called for explanation she told me those miscellaneous items were things that I had requested like a box of tissue ($16) and 8 of those small hospital juices that I drank over a period of 2 days which added up to ($27) this is when I discovered the US healthcare system was a scam. It was disappointing that those petty items cost me a tank of gas or 2 meals for that matter. As well as they gave me (did not request) a bottle of perineal wash which I thought was some great stuff the scent was amazing, that bottle (I thought it was free) which was less than 16oz of product cost me $19. It took me almost an hour to get her to tell me this information she was less than willing to reveal the outrageous prices for those insignificant items. My son was 2 before I paid that bill off.
Extraordinary One it's outrageous. My husband cut his eyebrow open and it wouldn't stop bleeding, it was a Sunday, so we had to go to an urgent care. We were in there for 30 minutes, saw a nurse practitioner and he ultimately only needed eye glue, not even stitches. We got the bill-$900.00. Yes, he was insured. They charged us for time with a doctor that we didn't even see. $300.00 for gauze and eye glue. I'm an attorney, so I threw a fit, threatened to sue. They only came down $400, still had to pay $500 for some eye glue. The American healthcare system makes me so angry!
+Lauren Kahre that's disgusting....at least I delivered a kid. I would have spit bullets to be charged that kind of money for eye glue. Give me a break. Don't get me started on seeing a doctor, just for him to hold a VERY brief conversation and not even touch you it cost $300. In your case he was nowhere to be found so I would have definitely disputed that!
Lauren Kahre My dad went to the ER because he hit his head and wouldn't stop bleeding. He's diabetic so we were worried. We waited like an hour and the doctor said it looked worst than it was. cleaning his cut with water and a cotton ball and sent us home. We got a $580 bill.
Extraordinary One aaaaaaaaah sooooo lucky for not in living US or become an American citizen 😱😱imagine wth.... that's really crap really really crap system
Why does it cost $16,848 in the first place? Why was it possible to negotiate down to $8,348? Was the extra $8,500 just for fun? To anyone involved in healthcare pricing: You're a villain.
Rob Landauer yeah the cost of subsidized healthcare is expensive. The two things that are exorbitantly expensive? School and healthcare. They are also the biggest payouts by the federal government. Get the government out of out pricing the market and the market will manage. This is why HSA programs are working so well these days. Hospitals will five you a massive “discount” for you to pay from a cash pile that your company matches, but in all reality it costs them so much more time and effort to get their money from an insurance company and the other government programs (Medicare/aid) that its worth it to just take the money and run. “To anyone involved in healthcare pricing: You’re the villain” Welcome to the Libertarian party. We accept you with open arms.
Well once I went to market to buy a T-Shirt for me with my mother. I choose one. Shopkeeper:- Rs.1,000 Me:- 'Shocked'(as it wasn't looking that expensive) Mom:- Rs.200 and not even a single rupee more. Me:- 'Double shocked' Shopkeeper:- Ook take it. I almost fainted there 😲😜😜
@@mrs_radrod "Get the government out of out pricing the market and the market will manage." what is this wild claim based on? Literally every country that has government-provided healthcare has cheaper healthcare costs than the US. Seems that your logic is lacking empirical evidence.
AztecMaiden yeah, cos we are This is just so foreign to me. I mean literally our healthcare bill is $20billion a year for the universal health. We have 24 million. Argue the same for America shouldn’t be anymore than 500-600 billion. If 100 million people paid $3500 a year into it that’s about half that cost. Deduct the rest from your increase in military spending and hey presto America has universal health 😂
We spend 99% of our time arguing over stupid crap and 1% of our time getting things done. Most people here are selfish and stubborn and would rather things go their way than improve the country.
It gets better. Sometimes you are told what the cost will be and pay upfront, then you STILL get sent a bill for MORE, because "the final calculation by the insurance was higher". It's criminal and disgusting.
+Vox Noticed you guys have a camera in your Baby room. In case you haven't already, make sure to change the default password on the camera and look up the model online to see if it's one that's easy to hack... I work with security cameras and there have been some horror stories involving baby monitor cameras. :/
+Алисон Бурней I found this documentary some kind of BS trying to scary people. Women should be able to chose their delivery options and the option of NOT to have a natural delivery if she doesnt want to. We live in a world where health care is a business too, not charity. But again, is ridiculous not to know in advance the total cost of every procedure (or a close estimate) like this video shows.
All What I Love I watched the business of being born and it was a very unbiased film in my opinion. They didn't diss getting a C-section and actively encouraged having a doctor on call in case anything happens. Their point is that in a normal birth, a natural vaginal birth with just a nurse/midwife on hand is statistically the safest option, and often the most fulfilling one too.
RainAngel111 Depends what 'fulfilling' means to you. Also depends what 'safest' means to you too. There is plenty of cases of women dyeing at giving birth home, even some very engaged 'natural delivery at home' activists like that australian woman Caroline Lovell. In other hand I am from a country where 95% of the middle class (and classes above) chose to have c-sections and we never heard ONE single case of mother dyeing on an elective c-section. We probably had about 100 million c-sections so far and all the death we can account has happened in normal deliveries or in a c-section performed too late after trying a normal for too long. Statistically 1 in 7 women would possibly die in normal delivery (as it was common numbers before modern medicine). Its not as safe and simple as people think. In the end, I am pro women having the chance to chose what is better and more satisfactory to themselves. And their choice should be respected.
The flight my parents took to South Korea (where my mom immigrated from) for my birth is cheaper than regular birth in the same country we live in (the US). The fact that a flight to the other side of the world for two adults is cheaper than giving birth in America is ridiculous!
In the US, we have the free market and hospitals are able to charge whatever they please for whatever procedure. We can't even call this competitive, because we'd have to know the prices to compare different providers, right?
capitalism, america just took capitalism way too far and let the big people charge freely. we were so paranoid of socialism and communism that any element of it was feared when in fact, certain elements of it work just fine in a capitalist-centered society.
Wow, this was eye opening from my point of view having used the NHS and similar services all my life. Fair enough they want people to pay and hospitals are allowed to charge what they want, but you think they would be required to have open pricing so people know what they're expected to pay.
The actual total cost (for the hospital) of a delivery is generally the same across the board. It's somewhere in the vicinity of 5k-8k give or take. What your health plan will cover for you on the other hand is what causes the big variance.
they don't it's usually what the insurance will cover at the end is why there is an influx in pricing period Plus different hospitals charge different prices because their rooms or better service is better birthing rooms are bigger and more comfortable and since no hospital is going to turn down somebody regardless of their ability to pay they have to make up the prices the stuff they do that people don't pay for.
How is this even legal? Imagine you went to a restaurant, not a particularly fancy one, and you look at the menu. There are no prices attached to any of the menu items, and when you ask the waiter about it, he says that the prices will only be tallied after you've eaten your food. You think to yourself, "Whatever, this isn't a very upscale restaurant, it probably won't be too much" Once you're done with the food and you get your bill, you realize that you just spent $8,000 on a BBQ chicken salad and if you don't pay, you'll be arrested.
not necessarily, many people borrow from friends or family, or even remortgage their home and go into debt for a long long time. When you're faced with the choice of life or death of your baby, you'd sell your own kidney to find ways to fund it.
You know how much this would cost in Sweden? $21 per night in an administrative fee. That’s everything included no matter if it’s an easy birth or with major complications that require surgery.
I would HATE to have nation wide health care. It would mean getting an ungodly amount of taxes on our income. America is not set up for it, to many things would have to change.
Leonard Wolf the NHS is some of the beat healthcare in the world, and looking at the life expectancy in the UK being higher in the UK, I’d believe it. More companies means they can all compete for one drug, so prices can rise, if an entire country is one unit when it comes to buying drugs, that buying power meaning we get lower costs. For example, if I buy pain killers in France they’ll cost me 10€, in the uk they’ll cost me 30 pence, same ingredients but one is bought by the NHS and one lots of private companies
I used to think that the NHS was great until they gave me some unnecessary paralysis and numbness in my leg as a result of being discharged when I wasn't meant to be. It took my GP shouting down the phone at the A&E and neurosurgery departments for me to get the emergency surgery that I needed.
I have no idea ho much my mother has gotten for my brother and me. My brother has gotten 18 years of child support, a 200€ a month and I have gotten it for 23 years since I went to school longer and then to university for a while. Also 200€ a month. So... Yeah... Being European is great. Being German is low key the best.
I am from Germany and, what shall I say: if I am sick or if my wife is giving birth or if I break my leg....I just go to the hospital and it is covered. Which costs me a monthly insurance fee of less than half of your 10%-birth-payment did...for my whole family. Which works because everyone does it, basically. What I do not like: you never see the bill here. I would really prefer to do so, maybe just receive it and send it to the insurance. That would make people more aware and maybe prevent them from going to the ER on a Sunday because they got the flu (which some do).
@@54pencils7 yes, that happens. Not that they could not wait until Monday or so. But it is not the norm either, most people behave "correctly" of course.
You are paying to give birth. Your response begs the question, do you work for the American medical industry or the insurance industry? The American medical industry is a scam on the American people. We are the laughing stock of the world. Medical care is the number one cause of personal and bankruptcy in the nation.
Where I live paying to give birth is optional. If you want to go to a public hospital it costs money, nothing compared to america though. If you go to a public hospital it's free.
#newdadwhodoesnthaveaparentalinstinctinhisbodyyet. Its ok. Give him a few months/years and after the first few big bills he'll be screaming tears of fear and carefulness. Lol
Thank god I live in Finland, where most hospital services and medical costs are covered just because you are a citizen here. That would be nerve cracking. USA is no where near being number one on this matter.
Kevin Kirkham I feel that is still completely misrepresented. I have read the statistics and it’s about 11% supposedly which is like 38 million but well over 70 million if you factor in the fact that the insurance is basically non existent. And that they count those who only have things like dental and vision as being insured............... and the majority are covered with govt subsidized programs like Medicaid and Medicare because they cannot afford private insurance. it’s very broken here.
thruErinseyes Why is insurance allowed to be so astronomically high?? If we can all get together and refuse to patronize these insurance giants, they would be forced to change their greed ways. They charge more and more: who will be their customers when no one has a job that covers their ridiculous premiums anymore?!?!?
Angie Adwoa but they cant, its not like they can see the future, and they dont know what they will have to do since doing anything can change the price, and so telling a specific price over the phone is not the same as asking for the price of a car
That's only the 5% of the original price. If this guy didn't pay thousands of dollar per year for an insurance he would have sucked up for a cool 16k dollars
Carlos Sanchez They can, they have a list of codes and know what a regular birth with no abnormal procedures needed they just refuse to share it. They won't know if the birth will go as planned and what additional costs that will add, but they do know for a regular case. Just plain bullshit, everything medical in the US is a circus joke.
One time when I was accompanying a family member to the hospital, I got a pretty wicked papercut on some of their paperwork, and I asked a nurse for a bandaid. While she was getting me one, I had a sudden realization, and was like "wait, this isn't going to be, like, $47 added onto his hospital bill, is it?!" She assured me it wouldn't, and it wasn't. But these are the things we have to consider, and it's ridiculous! (Also I now keep bandaids in my purse, just in case, lol)
This is genuinely insane. Imagine in a world where grocery stores have no prices on the shelves but you're told you can find out after you get home and look at your credit card statement.
lol!! this the perfect analogy
Amazon Go?
no amazon go displays the price of each item
True, but at the end of the day their baby was brought into the world safely without any problems.
AF TER
How is it legal to charge for a service without first providing transparent pricing?
It's a hustle, like that Apple computer.
// nostromov but instead we don’t go to MacBooks or apple stores for healthcare
Welcome to America.
some delivary have miner to major complications .. so they use this as an excuse not to disclose information... its like
" i know there might be some complications.. but can u give me a quote how much i need to prepare if everything ends up ok without complication"
"sorry sir. we cant."
Because when it comes to saving lives, prices are an afterthought. The whole idea when you are in a hospital is to keep you healthy and alive.
me: accidently touch a chair
hospital: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!
Charles the french
😂😂😂
Me: trips on the floor
Hospital staff: **aggressive scribbling**
Oh man i’m laughing so hard at this🤣🤣
Haha bestttt
This looks like torture, i cant even watch him make all these calls, being transferred, no one picking up, being hung up on. NIGHTMARE i hate calling ANYWHERE.
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me too! such a nightmare isn't it!!! I absolutely hate it!
Welcome to the American Nightmare
Now imagine having to do this every few months or more, not just when you have a baby, and you know what it's like to have health issues in the U.S.
I just called trying to get a price estimate today and I felt his pain :(
It’s expensive to come into this world and going out. It’s expensive to exist
yes, in a country that is ruled by ZIONISTS !! WATCH PETER . M "BLACK STONE INTELLIGENCE NETWORK"
Yet all we need to feed and home us is provided for free by the planet...
🤣🤣
Not in the UK.
well yah it will cost you a life
As a German everything about this astounds me. I‘ve never even seen a hospital bill in my life. My hospital delivery and 3 day hospital stay cost us 30 bucks, including parking.
Antonia B. Canadian here!
Cool beans
Hard to believe, because parking (and public transportation) costs an arm and a leg. ;)
How do German doctors earn their big 💰?
@@ankitsaikumar6866 Through the tax payer like every other country
America: $16k to have a child
Japan: We'll pay you to have a child
Pier Bermudez ^
It’s what the hospital charges you, and the guy paid $850.
Hunnnnn?????
@@luke_5187 because he had insurance
just invite immigrants
USA : *PAY UP*
Canada: *F R E E*
Japan: *TAKE DA MONEY*
AHHHHHHHHHHH
They pay us to have kids in Canada as well. We get a monthly payment.
*M O N E Y*
FINLAND : yeah heres a baby starter pack
I think because japan doesn’t have this much of births
If they are treating healthcare as a commodity then they should be subject to consumer rights such as the right to be informed or the right to be heard.
There is one state that has a Surprise Bill Law when receiving out-of-network care.
Welcome to capitalist 'murica. Your only right is the right to hand over all your money.
Your only right? Right this way.
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*Accidentally bumps into Dialysis machine*
That'll be $4,510.00
Dialysis is actually the only part of US healthcare that is 100% covered. This actually causes more issues with companies profiting off of keeping people on Dialysis instead of transplants as well as rushed and poor quality visits all because its handled privately then paid by the government.
chauncy primm lol
*accidentally looks at the mri machine*
that’ll be 10,470$ thank you
Accidentally Activated A Bomb
So The Hospital Has Been Destroyed
That'll be $100,000,000 Please.
*Breathes* that’ll be $116.93
When I was born it cost around £15
£5 for parking
£10 for snacks
What is that in today’s money
£1 in 1950 = £33 in today’s money
Mommy brought chocolate or it was in the UK
With free healthcare
That should be switched around parking is really expensive now and the snacks is McDonald’s now since there a McDonald’s nears lots of hospitals.
How many snacks because a packet of crisps is like maximum £1 and chocolate is pretty cheap and fizzy drinks aren't usually up to a quid but sometimes it's over a pound depending on if the size.
Medical team: Congratulations on your childbirth, that'll be $16K
Mother: $16K!? I can't afford that!
Medical team: Alright boys, put it back in.
haha hahah
💀
lol
bruhhhhhhh
Hold on
I went to an emergency room for swollen lower legs, worried it may be bacteremia. I was seen by an ER doctor who said it was not bacteremia, just edema. I was not given any medication, no tests, no blood drawn, no IV, etc etc, literally just a bed for about 15 minutes while I waited for the doctor.
So, for 3 minutes of his time and me taking up a bed for about 15 minutes: $1,800+.
Criminal.
go to urgent care instead if you are not dying or it is not an emergency but an urgency. Of course USA's medical system is crazy af, but occupying a bed in emergency care makes you pay ten fold
@@AA123TD That is just crazy
Well, yeah, it's criminal, but it is business, you see. Medicine is about maintaining the patient & no longer involves healing methods. It's about money, control, and power & bowing down to their little god-like status. I'm sorry if I sound bitter & cynical, but I am bitter & cynical. I have had too many negative dealings with these so called doctors. The last doctor who acted like my doctors when I was very young was in 1985. They were good, caring doctors, but they're dead now. Now we have this money mad trash acting like they are doctors, attend the Rockefeller medical schools, & attempt to force you to have procedures you really do not need, procedures that quite often cost a chunk of change. I have learned not to take them at face value & to question everything they say, and they often lie, too. The endocrinologist I see talked about "products & services." He sounded like a damn used car salesman. The most people can do is research in depth. And you might be shocked at what you discover as the result.
Jessica Insua where I am, I can’t go to urgent care without a referral from my primary care (which takes time for insurance to process) so when I need to be seen quickly ER is my only choice. It’s nonsense
Julie Witt so true
Omg the guy on the phone saying 'AF-TER' really annoyed me 😒
Emily i know right?!?
Just like a programmed robot. Programmed to say one thing over and over again until you hang up.
It sounded pretty condescending.
Emily I am
Emily didn't you just want to punch him in the face?
I cost about £5 to be delivered thanks to the NHS
£0 for the healthcare and birth
£5 for the coffee
Yea, sometimes you need to pay for parking as well.. bummer lol
Same as Canada !
😂😂
others paid for your birth, and you are likewise paying for others, if you pay taxes.
@@TheCrazyCartModChannel still nowehere as expensive as the US, we dont have to take a loan to afford hospital
Americans: it cost 16k to have a child
Europe, Canada; Japan and other developed countries: you have to pay to give birth!?
The most disturbing thing to me as a European is that Americans aren't surprised by this.
In Russia you have general health insurance which cover costs of birth in hospital. You can pay a bit more if you want services above standard like own room in hospital etc. But mainly, here is so called mothernity capital, which means that state pay mother for giving a birth. For first child its 466 000 rubles (about 7990 usd) and for each another child its 616 000 rubles (about 10 550 usd).
It's free even in a lot of developing countries
@@imperatormaximus8952 we're very desensitized
Europe isn't a country
A life was casually created during the video
d'awww! :')
Baby is a property of Vox now.
+Ragnarok Hahahaha
Amit Nahari your comment was 9 months ago. its probably being born as I watch this video now
sinnedciti top quality bait
Well this frustrated me.
Gabriel Cotto going directly to the hospital and not your insurance agency is genuinely retarded and a waste of hospital staffs time. Get frustrated due to incompetence. 😁
Primal Machine what are they going to do at the insurance agency? Are they doctors and nurses? No, they're not.
Ricegum?
indusrtial nurses and doctors have no clue what you'll pay even for somthing as simple as an xray or stitches, let alone a birth that can range from one to twenty-four hours easy.
I agree with you, neither does anyone else, and that's the whole point of this video.
*Everyone:* You can’t put a price tag on life
*Americans:* Hold my beer
More like: Hold my student debt
ambossツ 😆
literally anyone with common sense: nooo you cant just make money off of everything! thats greed!!
america: haha child birth go money money
@@aliveandunwell430 Don’t want a child?
Sorry, abortion is illegal now and contraception prices are though the roof!
Hahaha, now give us money. 💴 💵 💰
Hahahahaha
My favorite part about hospital visit is when they tell you “don’t worry about the cost now we’ll deal with that later, let’s take care of this first.” Proceeds to charge you a third of a average mortgage or most times more and expects you to just deal with it.
this is extortion.. pure and simple.
Endo C it kind of is!!! Holding you hostage because they know you need the service!
Endo C
Water and electronics are just as bad too...they are flat monopolies...
I feel like this is probably illegal.
It seems like it would be illegal to have someone be able to sell something without disclosing the price until after the purchase.
I haven't watched the video yet, but their OB-GYN should have given them an estimated cost spreadsheet to look over and sign. Did they not have a preganacy doctor?
Exactly like where else does this happen?
I’m pretty sure it’s a HIPPA violation to not give the cost before the procedure
For everyone else besides the healthcare industry, yes it would be illegal. But the US healthcare industry are the only ones, who’s doesn’t have to disclose prices. It’s even legal for them to actively hide them, or force you to not disclose any knowledge you have of the cost.
It shouldn't even be a purchase to begin with - it should be a free service to any pregnant woman and the hospital of her choice.
"Imagine paying to give birth"
- this comment was made by the European gang
😂😂
*Rest of the world gang.
“Imagine not being payed for birth”. -this comment was made by Japan gang
@@ninjaapple8723 *aging population country gang
I'm Canadian
My birth cost £2:
The price of parking.
Expensive. Down here in New Zealand, many public hospitals sold off their parking buildings to the private sector, because it was 'more efficient'. Daily parking costs in most areas immediately doubled. Up to $20/day now.
Maybe not true for the rest of Canada, but in my city, the hospitals have stopped charging for parking during the pandemic! So our last child was free! (Yes yes, I know it's not free, but covered by our taxes)
Here in Greece we don't pay for parking at the hospital. But we pay a little fee. If I remember right I payed something like 15€.
Edit: the fee is for some hospital bureaucracy.
Mine was cheeper, the hospital had free parking
Edit: I'm from Spain
Yeah in Portugal idk if its 24euros or 12. But emergencies are free. The parking depends on where. But if you pay you might get the money back. But the Taxi and/or Ambulance are quite expensive
America is not a country it's just a business
Yes, I wanna leave America.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Come to Canada Folks! It's like an America, but colder and free health care! Wooo! My sister had a complicated birth with her twins, was in hospital for 4 days, and didn't have to pay a dime !
You're half right. It's not a "county", it's a "country".
El Buhdai 🤣😂
In the land called Australia, this is illegal. The Australian Consumer Law (Schedule 2) requires all services to disclose all fees before any service is being carried out, if not, the fees may generally not be enforceable. But it doesn't really matter, as Australians have Medicare, the nation-wide all covered medical expenses' system for all permanent residents and citizens.
Yeah, only to know that your roos require high speed internet access, and NBN sucks....
Hahahaha, better not to drive for the next 3 days in case if there is a DUI waiting for you.
Well, here in America we have an idiot as president and republicans don't want nation wide health care because they're greedy and want money.
I am sorry to hear that, but in the US, it is highly unlikely that a nation-wide medical system can be established. Here in Australia, while doctors do earn a bit higher, it is nothing like the US count-parts, hospitals have a set of regulated fees, all covered, while external specialists and GPs can charge higher, but not too much, as otherwise, they will lose out on no customers.
Tony Ka I should have know better but when I started doing things on my own I went and got a check up at the doctors office. From times I’d been before you just show the insurance card and I can go on with my day. Well the women “offered” me a flu shot and I took it thinking why not and it cost me like 200 bucks outside of the insurance. That’s when I had to realize that I need to pay attention to what’s going on during a visit. Practically like I’m going shopping.
All of the foreign people in the comments who are astounded by this: trust us, we are too. We are not happy with the way our healthcare is in the US
Emily Hibberd Specially considering it doesn't have to be like this.
Our last names are almost the same
Emily Hibberd im having my freedom ! And the government cant take it ! Only corps! And that’s my freedom !
There's alot of stuff we're not happy with in the U.S.
@Life or death Haste or ras mostly Europe is astounded because they pay bigger taxes but have real rights to (good and free) education and healthcare. Unless you have a bussiness or are rich, I would not live in the US as a regular, minimum-medium (less than 20 per hour) wage worker...
Nobody said it here, CONGRATZ WITH YOUR BABY AND WISH YOU ALL THE LUCK AND THE BEST
😂
*What I've learned from this video* #1. Try not to use anything that you do not NEED from the hospital. #2. Bring your own drinks and small snacks so you aren't forced to use theirs. #3. Try to get in and out!!. #4. They want your money and will try to take as much of it as possible.
Jada Garrett most hospitals don’t allow outside food. They’ll do anything to justify taking more cash
you could probably get past that and lessen costs in general by choosing a birthing center.
Or move to Europe and pay 0$ for everyting
#5 don't have a baby
Jesus christ, the US is terrifing! In Italy if you have to deliver a baby the hospital itself is completely free.
"Humans have no price!"
"The cost to give birth to your child is 18,000 dollars."
"Apparently my baby costs 18,000 dollars."
acegirlinastraightworld My wife has had two kids (both C-section deliveries) and we paid nothing. Totally Free in my country. As it should be.
acegirlinastraightworld prostitutes have a price :)
Javier Ramirez LOL YES
acegirlinastraightworld lol welcome to america where everything is a business
That's why you steal other people's babies instead
4:49 made me wanna punch the guy on the phone so bad
Nyree af ter
The dude sounded so freaking sure at that moment. I was pissed too!
it's not his fault. he didn't make the law. and he's the only one who picked up and actually answered.
But that was rude and unprofessional. He was being condescending.
AF-TER
I just ruined the like number from 666 to 667😏
Typical US hospital :
Doctor say hi to you = $20
Nurse tells you "don't forget to eat our pill" = $15 (pills billed seperately)
$20? are you kidding? more like $200!
Well, 20 mins with a doctor is 100$
individually*
What’s wild is that they actually are billed per pill :,,,)
Air = $10 per second
$16.848 of which you are charged $841 for an uncomplicated child birth ? My daughter just gave birth in a hospital here in Denmark, and the total cost for that was $0. Lots can be said about huge taxes and what not, but if you take everything into account, we might be taxed alot, but the fact that we do not pay anything out of pocket for social services and/or health care, is more than worth it all.
You pay almost $6400 in taxs per year for your healthcare. However you want to look at it, you still pay. Maybe no fee out of pocket beings they allready took it from your pocket. Now you still pay every year till death regaurdless if you use it or not. Id rather only pay when i use it then to be forced to pay when i dont use it.
I don't know from where you get that amount. Could you supply a link ? None the less, if i should end up hospitalized, i'll have NO co-pay charges, not like in the US where an open heart surgery to save my life, would bankrupt me and my family in literally a heartbeat, regardless of insurance. Don't talk to me about "sub par" health care.
Hi, I'm from Canada. :) We also pay higher taxes in order to receive free healthcare. I see often that Americans like to use the argument 'but you pay for it in taxes!'. Yes that's true, but on average Americans pay more for healthcare than us Canadians do in our taxes. Google it! So next time you want to use the argument that we are paying more, just remember that you are wrong :)
Miranda Our healthcare will also tend to be better and wait times shorter as not every single person has free healthcare.
Ebrithil1
Assuming that you are from the US, That is an INSANELY uneducated statement.
*Laughs in European*
Joana Bogdan *the world laughs at America
*Cries in American*
Joana Bogdan wait, i thought y’all tea sipping ugly teeth having folks couldn’t watch youtube because of article 16?
Eddy Bolanos *Laughs in Dutch* that just proves how dumb you are.
@@ronir77r26 You never do that
Why did it cost over $16k just to give birth? Did you buy a car during the hospital stay?
@Udah Vektorin Aja sarcasm dingus
Because Americans care more about the money instead of the people
apparently so
cloud ix 16k for a car is not that much
@@dylanpower1438 I mean, you can get a second-hand one. I guess it depends on where you live and stuff.
Props for this guy, for having a baby just for this video🙌
lol
Well, this film pretty much explains the problem of the US healthcare system... The only country in the developed world that doesn't have national health system. I do feel sorry for US Americans having to deal with this poor system....
Pimple pampers
official Japan is cool but its expensive to live there
dude it sucks
thankfully I’ve never been to the hospital but I probably will sooner or later and I’m like scared like Vdkeosososis I shouldn’t be worrying about this!
@ And why would the price be clearly marked for each procedure if it was a true free market system and what prevents hospitals from doing it now?
And while it's true that we don't necessarily know how much the state pays for each individual procedure in a national healthcare system what we can see is that the US spends twice as much per capita and 50% more as percentage of GDP than the average developed country on healthcare which means it costs more. While many factors contribute to this the biggest by far is estimated to be the difference in negotiating power between a single national healthcare system and several independent private insurance companies. Which I find quite ironic because one of the main arguments for free market capitalism is that it makes things cheaper due to competition.
Isn't it... illegal to charge someone for something they don't know the price of in many places?
Welcome to America
Mikah Soul THIS.
It cost $16,000 to have a baby? Pretty sure it was free 100 years ago.
Alien Titty - Dude's wife didn't have any problems during childbirth and was charged $16, 000.
Maybe you didn't get the point or you're just dumb, but thanks for your 2 cents.
It's still free if you don't want to go to a hospital to have a baby
dying during childbirth was also free 100 years ago.
(and no it wasn't. Midwives have always charged a fee.)
My c section was close to 40,000. Insurance was an effing savior 6yrs ago.
You can’t have a baby in your house unless you hire professionals to help you. Even if you accidental have it in a place that wasn’t ideal you’d have to call the hospital because you need a birth certificate and social security. The government controls everything. There’s no way to have a baby without paying in America
Doctor: The baby will cost 800$
Card: *Declines
Doctor: *ABORT*
Put that thing back where it came from or so help me
Doctor: can't pay?, alright then, garbage bin it goes or have it in an ally then.
You would wish it was just 800 lol go up wayyyyy up
Can't pay, get the shot we gonna sedate the child
@@hectorpacheco5154 BORT
Americans asking: How is it legal to provide a service without being clear about the costs upfront?
Europeans asking: You have to pay to give birth? 😳
Manuel hahaha that’s the truth!!!
Somebody is paying for it. The US is huge and extremely inefficient. Maybe each state could have their own health care plan, but it wouldn't be perfect.
heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe Im dutch, jokes on america!
Yeah exactly! The fact that stuff like this, or normalized hospital care in general isn't covered from something like a government tax fund so that you don't have to pour out of your own wallet is just another disturbing brick in the horror house that is the United States of America.
Actually in many European countries we do have to pay “to give birth”. It can be surprising, but in Belgium a single room in a maternity ward, for a couple of days, can be even more expensive than the final price that this family of the video has paid (counting already with the insurance discounts).
LAW UPDATE!!!!: Hospitals now have to provide a breakdown of their costs to the public BEFORE you get a procedure/operation/etc :D WOOP!
But not like you really have a choice which hospital you can go to give birth.
Samuel Grahame you definitely have a choice. I gave birth where I wanted because with my first 2 the doctors weren’t in so I had to use who was available so going to “your doctor” may not even me an option and with my 4th he was delivered so fast that the nurse basically caught him lol Not one doctor even in the room. Research the hospital as a whole and the prices. You’ll be set from there. If you’re in active labor no one on their right mind will turn you away...
@@Vasselco in Australia public hospitals are free. My wife had her own room. We do not have doctors in the room unless needed. Only a nurse. I was in the room while my wife was giving birth. Hospital was very good. My son had to have a suction to help him come out at the end. She stayed in hospital for 3 days. They gave her meals and our baby stayed in the same room as my wife. They allowed me to visit 24-7. Even giving me food while I was there. We had all our scans all free and our doctor booked us all appointments for the hospital and checkups. We were only 10 minutes drive from the hospital so we were very lucky
As a sick British teenager I am glad I am British and not American and feel sorry for you because you are so happy about that. You are happy you are getting freedom of information.
Yes they have to give you their prices. But assuming you have insurance what they're giving you is not what you will pay. And that's probably why it took so long for him to get a straight answer. Because it depends on which insurance company you have and what kind of policy you have how much you are paying out of pocket. It's not even what insurance company. It is also what policy you've picked and who your employer is. For example my husband is a nurse at a hospital. If I go to the hospital where he works or one of their sister hospitals I'm going to pay a lot less after insurance then somebody with the same insurance company because I have a different policy. However if I want to go to a different hospital I'm going to pay a lot more out-of-pocket then somebody with the same Insurance Company who does not work for the hospital
Hands down ... The best video showcasing our horrific hospital system on YT.
Imagine negotiating health care costs on a case by case basis instead of having a centralized system that negotiates for everyone across the board, which lowers costs dramatically.
It's almost like the health insurance companies are mob-like middle men standing between patients and Doctors. They provide nothing, add cost, and add bureaucracy...
That's only expensive if you don't consider how much you could sell that baby for.
hahaha wtf
Thank you!
+Half_Centaur Heck, you could get a pound of veal chops from D'Artagnan for $24.99. Even if the baby weighs 10-pounds, that's only $250. Not a good return on your investment.
+Naomi Williams Wow, you're even sicker than me, lol
+Naomi Williams Think long term, black market usually pays high for organs.
You guys must have some damn good insurance if you only have to pay $800 off a $I6,000 bill! I recently had a tumor removed from my spinal cord and had to stay in the hospital for 3 nights. NOT including the surgeon fee, the hospital has already charged me close to $65,000 in fees.
UPDATE: The bills are up to $100K now.
eidodk It's just wonderful!
How do you afford that ?
why chooose a user name ? I can't
GingerKidDiaries Why didn't you go to a country (anywhere) where the costs would be much lower?
@dinar andfriends If they don't have money to pay a hospital bill, what makes you think they had the money for moving, passports, etc?? That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say. Most of us would love to leave.
When American parents argue with their children: "Shut up! You costed me $18,000!"
Christian Jiang 😊😊😊
LOL!!!!!!!
Gonna use that on my future kids😂😂
And that's just the down payment.
in America the Average child will cost the parents about a quarter of a million dollars
USA: Concerns over lower birth rates in decades
Also USA: this baby delivery will cost $12.000 Dollars
I've been living in the U.S. for 7 years and even became a citizen. I'm so glad I've never had to visit a hospital here.
GrayFlare then you're an undocumented immigrant?
GrayFlare never say never
Yeah enjoy your slightly lower taxes, I'm happy with me free health care and better school system.
Same, I’d rather pay more and have a reasonable government.
this is why lowering taxes is stupid
It's not "Free" It's simply funded by taxpayer's money.
@@bellejolie2506 and the taxpayers dont even have to pay that much as things are REGULATED (the things that governments are SUPPOSED to do with the money and power the citizens provide it with)
@@bryceingelsby yeah but university there also costs alot more than it does in Canada
I dont think patients should be called “customers” a 3:56
At that price? They are!
@@milaycastillo5723 facts
That's America bro, even their healthcare is a company
America: are you sure about that?
zmaud
It shows the medical field’s true intent.
I live in the US. Had a routine childbirth, stayed in the hospital just under 2 full days:
Hospital services price: $30,000. I paid $270 after insurance coverage.
This does not include the $340 I paid for my obstetrician to come last minute and deliver baby. Obstetrician cost before insurance coverage: $5,000.
My 2nd baby was 3w early, I stayed 6 days mostly just to monitor her because of low birth weight. I had medicaid luckily because even if it was only a day long stay i could never have paid what it would have cost. For people who give birth well before their due date like 30w give or take with lots of complications I can't imagine their costs. Can't imagine what twins, triplets(etc) cost either, do they charge per baby? Wouldn't be surprised. First baby was kicked out right at 24hrs after admitting me, guess they needed the bed free for the next baby.
America land of the free......until you need a doctor
trevor flanagan You dont have to wait to need a doctor. We pay taxes every pay period.
At least dying is free... oh wait even that costs.
trevor flanagan hahahahahahaha!
I don’t think doctors remove freedom.
You are still free to declare bankruptcy and go die on the curb......Unless they then mistake you for a homeless person and treat you like the trash next to the bin!
When I got the breakdown of my bill after delivery they had a lot of prices on there that were not self explanatory when I called for explanation she told me those miscellaneous items were things that I had requested like a box of tissue ($16) and 8 of those small hospital juices that I drank over a period of 2 days which added up to ($27) this is when I discovered the US healthcare system was a scam. It was disappointing that those petty items cost me a tank of gas or 2 meals for that matter. As well as they gave me (did not request) a bottle of perineal wash which I thought was some great stuff the scent was amazing, that bottle (I thought it was free) which was less than 16oz of product cost me $19. It took me almost an hour to get her to tell me this information she was less than willing to reveal the outrageous prices for those insignificant items. My son was 2 before I paid that bill off.
Extraordinary One it's outrageous. My husband cut his eyebrow open and it wouldn't stop bleeding, it was a Sunday, so we had to go to an urgent care. We were in there for 30 minutes, saw a nurse practitioner and he ultimately only needed eye glue, not even stitches. We got the bill-$900.00. Yes, he was insured. They charged us for time with a doctor that we didn't even see. $300.00 for gauze and eye glue. I'm an attorney, so I threw a fit, threatened to sue. They only came down $400, still had to pay $500 for some eye glue. The American healthcare system makes me so angry!
+Lauren Kahre that's disgusting....at least I delivered a kid. I would have spit bullets to be charged that kind of money for eye glue. Give me a break. Don't get me started on seeing a doctor, just for him to hold a VERY brief conversation and not even touch you it cost $300. In your case he was nowhere to be found so I would have definitely disputed that!
Lauren Kahre My dad went to the ER because he hit his head and wouldn't stop bleeding. He's diabetic so we were worried. We waited like an hour and the doctor said it looked worst than it was. cleaning his cut with water and a cotton ball and sent us home. We got a $580 bill.
Extraordinary One aaaaaaaaah sooooo lucky for not in living US or become an American citizen 😱😱imagine wth.... that's really crap really really crap system
"man why do i have to pay for things that cost money"
Why does it cost $16,848 in the first place?
Why was it possible to negotiate down to $8,348? Was the extra $8,500 just for fun?
To anyone involved in healthcare pricing: You're a villain.
Rob Landauer yeah the cost of subsidized healthcare is expensive. The two things that are exorbitantly expensive? School and healthcare. They are also the biggest payouts by the federal government.
Get the government out of out pricing the market and the market will manage. This is why HSA programs are working so well these days. Hospitals will five you a massive “discount” for you to pay from a cash pile that your company matches, but in all reality it costs them so much more time and effort to get their money from an insurance company and the other government programs (Medicare/aid) that its worth it to just take the money and run.
“To anyone involved in healthcare pricing: You’re the villain” Welcome to the Libertarian party. We accept you with open arms.
You dont call them villain, you call them robbers.
Well once I went to market to buy a T-Shirt for me with my mother. I choose one.
Shopkeeper:- Rs.1,000
Me:- 'Shocked'(as it wasn't looking that expensive)
Mom:- Rs.200 and not even a single rupee more.
Me:- 'Double shocked'
Shopkeeper:- Ook take it.
I almost fainted there 😲😜😜
Ambulance rides are surprisingly pricey lol
@@mrs_radrod "Get the government out of out pricing the market and the market will manage." what is this wild claim based on? Literally every country that has government-provided healthcare has cheaper healthcare costs than the US. Seems that your logic is lacking empirical evidence.
Simple answer: have kids at home, go to Canada if there are complications
Unrelated, but my grandmother was a trained midwife
You'll still have to pay in Canada if you are not a resident of a Canadian province.
@@carfreeneoliberalgeorgisty5102 Absolutely, but, probably, still cheaper.
half the comments are non Americans talking about how lucky they are
AztecMaiden yeah, cos we are
This is just so foreign to me. I mean literally our healthcare bill is $20billion a year for the universal health. We have 24 million. Argue the same for America shouldn’t be anymore than 500-600 billion.
If 100 million people paid $3500 a year into it that’s about half that cost. Deduct the rest from your increase in military spending and hey presto America has universal health 😂
We spend 99% of our time arguing over stupid crap and 1% of our time getting things done. Most people here are selfish and stubborn and would rather things go their way than improve the country.
Af-ter
My head blasted
i was having trouble understanding what he meant until he said it slow like that. then it was crystal clear. oh he means after!
Krish Mistry my Head was boiling.
Yea.. rude
Af-ter you've used our services and we've charged you as much as we think reasonable...
It sounded like he himself couldn’t believe what he was saying
This should be illegal, buying a product without being given the price.
It gets better. Sometimes you are told what the cost will be and pay upfront, then you STILL get sent a bill for MORE, because "the final calculation by the insurance was higher". It's criminal and disgusting.
Actually, you are being forced to use a service without being told the price...that is so much worse!
But that should not be, especially in medicine. It's an uncaring, careless field.
Americans confuse me so much, how do you live with this??????
We don't live , we more survive
@@thelast9583 exactly.
They love capitalism
We cry and work ourselves to death. It's how the masses cope with being poor.
We work to death 💀
Start a website for parents to list their costs.
That's what I was thinking.
good idea
wow, this should be done.
But it depends on the hospital, type of birth and type of insurance???
When she said 15k I literally gasped
You should watch the documentary, "The Business of Being Born." It changed my life
+Алисон Бурней Thanks for the recommendation! -Johnny
+Vox Noticed you guys have a camera in your Baby room. In case you haven't already, make sure to change the default password on the camera and look up the model online to see if it's one that's easy to hack...
I work with security cameras and there have been some horror stories involving baby monitor cameras. :/
+Алисон Бурней I found this documentary some kind of BS trying to scary people. Women should be able to chose their delivery options and the option of NOT to have a natural delivery if she doesnt want to. We live in a world where health care is a business too, not charity. But again, is ridiculous not to know in advance the total cost of every procedure (or a close estimate) like this video shows.
All What I Love I watched the business of being born and it was a very unbiased film in my opinion. They didn't diss getting a C-section and actively encouraged having a doctor on call in case anything happens. Their point is that in a normal birth, a natural vaginal birth with just a nurse/midwife on hand is statistically the safest option, and often the most fulfilling one too.
RainAngel111 Depends what 'fulfilling' means to you. Also depends what 'safest' means to you too. There is plenty of cases of women dyeing at giving birth home, even some very engaged 'natural delivery at home' activists like that australian woman Caroline Lovell. In other hand I am from a country where 95% of the middle class (and classes above) chose to have c-sections and we never heard ONE single case of mother dyeing on an elective c-section. We probably had about 100 million c-sections so far and all the death we can account has happened in normal deliveries or in a c-section performed too late after trying a normal for too long. Statistically 1 in 7 women would possibly die in normal delivery (as it was common numbers before modern medicine). Its not as safe and simple as people think. In the end, I am pro women having the chance to chose what is better and more satisfactory to themselves. And their choice should be respected.
The flight my parents took to South Korea (where my mom immigrated from) for my birth is cheaper than regular birth in the same country we live in (the US). The fact that a flight to the other side of the world for two adults is cheaper than giving birth in America is ridiculous!
How can they not be totally transparent with medical bill prices?? That's absurd!
and yet prices are free knowledge in Europe where doctors get paid well too
Simple, there is no law saying they have to be transparent. So they aren't.
The Flagged Dragon 😝😝😝
Why are hospitals able to charge such vastly different amounts anyway?
In the US, we have the free market and hospitals are able to charge whatever they please for whatever procedure. We can't even call this competitive, because we'd have to know the prices to compare different providers, right?
capitalism, america just took capitalism way too far and let the big people charge freely. we were so paranoid of socialism and communism that any element of it was feared when in fact, certain elements of it work just fine in a capitalist-centered society.
Wow, this was eye opening from my point of view having used the NHS and similar services all my life. Fair enough they want people to pay and hospitals are allowed to charge what they want, but you think they would be required to have open pricing so people know what they're expected to pay.
The actual total cost (for the hospital) of a delivery is generally the same across the board. It's somewhere in the vicinity of 5k-8k give or take. What your health plan will cover for you on the other hand is what causes the big variance.
they don't it's usually what the insurance will cover at the end is why there is an influx in pricing period Plus different hospitals charge different prices because their rooms or better service is better birthing rooms are bigger and more comfortable and since no hospital is going to turn down somebody regardless of their ability to pay they have to make up the prices the stuff they do that people don't pay for.
so happy to lived in Canada ... congratz for the new parents
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How is this even legal?
Imagine you went to a restaurant, not a particularly fancy one, and you look at the menu. There are no prices attached to any of the menu items, and when you ask the waiter about it, he says that the prices will only be tallied after you've eaten your food.
You think to yourself, "Whatever, this isn't a very upscale restaurant, it probably won't be too much"
Once you're done with the food and you get your bill, you realize that you just spent $8,000 on a BBQ chicken salad and if you don't pay, you'll be arrested.
0.0€ in Germany. Enjoy your lower taxes, and drown in bills for education and health care. 🙃
exactly why I’m thinking of moving to Germany for uni😂
@@mirellymiranda9591 not a Bad idea. There are also a few Unis where you can study entirely on english.
haha
That's capitalism at its best
@@user-in1gn6fw2eab I want to go, I'm learning german atm too!!! PS I'm already in University, but with financial aid lol.
My grandma went to the hospital for like 4 hours and got a $2000 hospital bill just for an ambulance ride.
alexleanh
That’s gonna be expensive
My moms family was tight on money. Once she accidentally drank bleach and had to be airlifted. Sounds great. We love poverty.
I costed over $1 million dollars after i was born due to having to have life saving surgery right after birth.
Andrew Taylor were you in America?
My little sister’s birth was $49,000 and insurance covered 35%
cost*
not necessarily, many people borrow from friends or family, or even remortgage their home and go into debt for a long long time. When you're faced with the choice of life or death of your baby, you'd sell your own kidney to find ways to fund it.
Well. ... you're a million dollar baby!
Canadians, Japanese and Europeans looking at this like "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
I got a freaking $12,930.95 dollars bill in the mailbox.
I was thinking : umm ok Trump ..you can deport me now .
Wow you’re pretty do you have insta
Bill would've been the same under Obama too, probably even Bush. It's just that hospitals are overpriced af in the United States.
@@snurtole She wasn't blaming Trump for the bill in the joke.
sparksthedaytrader That is another way to look at it too, but my comment still holds true even if she wasn’t blaming Trump
You would have better odds of getting deported under Obama.
You know how much this would cost in Sweden? $21 per night in an administrative fee. That’s everything included no matter if it’s an easy birth or with major complications that require surgery.
Plus tax
Plus possible parking
How is this special? Half of planet earth pays less than that bruh
@mmbleachtasty i ask
@mmbleachtasty I asked
Hes growing up fast. Already crying about bills. Lol
Myles G. 😹
Myles G. Right
I would HATE to have nation wide health care. It would mean getting an ungodly amount of taxes on our income. America is not set up for it, to many things would have to change.
The cast of Friends did a great job touching just about EVERYTHING in their countless trips to the hospital.
At least my dentist tells me how much BEFORE any procedure😂
We’re not talking about dentists
@@PoochiePookie12 they are still medical professionals
Say Ruiz same but orthodontist
Gosh I’m so lucky to live in the UK, I love the NHS so much I’m training to work in it, the thought of privatisation is terrifying
It's brilliant, Thank you for working in healthcare! I and many others will do everything we can to protect the NHS from privatisation.
Leonard Wolf the NHS is some of the beat healthcare in the world, and looking at the life expectancy in the UK being higher in the UK, I’d believe it. More companies means they can all compete for one drug, so prices can rise, if an entire country is one unit when it comes to buying drugs, that buying power meaning we get lower costs. For example, if I buy pain killers in France they’ll cost me 10€, in the uk they’ll cost me 30 pence, same ingredients but one is bought by the NHS and one lots of private companies
Leonard Wolf every country has debt.....the US has the most in the world but can’t give their people healthcare 🙄
I used to think that the NHS was great until they gave me some unnecessary paralysis and numbness in my leg as a result of being discharged when I wasn't meant to be. It took my GP shouting down the phone at the A&E and neurosurgery departments for me to get the emergency surgery that I needed.
I received 2000$ from having a child. Welcome to Europe
Europe is pretty broad. What country?
Judging from the channel this person is subscribed to, I'd say Sweden or Finland? Definitely northern
@@Orangecatenergy true
I have no idea ho much my mother has gotten for my brother and me.
My brother has gotten 18 years of child support, a 200€ a month and I have gotten it for 23 years since I went to school longer and then to university for a while. Also 200€ a month.
So... Yeah... Being European is great. Being German is low key the best.
@@29records50 so are you from Finland or Sweden? imma go there if I have kids lol
I am from Germany and, what shall I say: if I am sick or if my wife is giving birth or if I break my leg....I just go to the hospital and it is covered. Which costs me a monthly insurance fee of less than half of your 10%-birth-payment did...for my whole family.
Which works because everyone does it, basically.
What I do not like: you never see the bill here. I would really prefer to do so, maybe just receive it and send it to the insurance. That would make people more aware and maybe prevent them from going to the ER on a Sunday because they got the flu (which some do).
Wait, people go to the ER when they have the flu?
@@54pencils7 yes, that happens. Not that they could not wait until Monday or so. But it is not the norm either, most people behave "correctly" of course.
Paying to give Birth good lord . . . glad I'm in the UK
You are paying to give birth. Your response begs the question, do you work for the American medical industry or the insurance industry? The American medical industry is a scam on the American people. We are the laughing stock of the world. Medical care is the number one cause of personal and bankruptcy in the nation.
Where I live paying to give birth is optional. If you want to go to a public hospital it costs money, nothing compared to america though. If you go to a public hospital it's free.
Chloe Jayde if I want to go to a public hospital it costs money, but if I want to go to a public hospital it's free? What do I choose?
Chloe Jayde do you mean private hospital?
Minhyun?
you have to support the child's neck, his head cannot be left rolling forwards or backward. their neck is weak rn
too late notice, he is 3,5 y.o.now)))
I was looking for this comment. The end gave me a little heart attack
I was about to say the same thing!! geez that looked dangerous
@@strawwberryyy actually baby necks are more durable than you think
Exactly
THE BABY’S NECK!!!!!!
I know at 7:46....yikes daddy, support the fetus-like human’s rubber neck.
#newdadwhodoesnthaveaparentalinstinctinhisbodyyet. Its ok. Give him a few months/years and after the first few big bills he'll be screaming tears of fear and carefulness. Lol
OMG THAT BOTHERED ME
@@kellyramirez-garcia4703 ikr
I've seen so many parents do that and it makes me want to go over and give them a lecture every time lol
I’m just upset that this guy only paid $847. With my insurance it was closer to $7000 out of pocket.
Why hospitals don’t give a price though? I was waiting for an answer to this question the whole video
because they know that its so expensive and they don't want people to know and end up not going to that hospital....
It was actually answered but not directly
Here in Canada we are given prices which equals to around 0$
Because depending on your insurance it has to be negotiated first and you don’t know exactly how much medicine the woman will be needing
C sections are always suggested in hospitals, and unnecessarily given....gee I wonder why
Sources?
Well vaginal birth are really painful and dangerous. So there is that
They’re 22000 that’s why
@@myra8912 yes indeed vaginal birth with out epidural 2 months ago it's painful but glad that i'm safe phew
Myra and you dont think a serious surgery like a csection is dangerous or painful
Thank god I live in Finland, where most hospital services and medical costs are covered just because you are a citizen here.
That would be nerve cracking. USA is no where near being number one on this matter.
Jonathan Österlund USA is greedy . I live here.
“i think Izzy might be going into labor”
Izzy: 😎
Rip all the ppl without insurance
Luckily less than 10% of the population are uninsured. Still a sizable majority though.
Kevin Kirkham I feel that is still completely misrepresented. I have read the statistics and it’s about 11% supposedly which is like 38 million but well over 70 million if you factor in the fact that the insurance is basically non existent. And that they count those who only have things like dental and vision as being insured............... and the majority are covered with govt subsidized programs like Medicaid and Medicare because they cannot afford private insurance. it’s very broken here.
thruErinseyes Why is insurance allowed to be so astronomically high?? If we can all get together and refuse to patronize these insurance giants, they would be forced to change their greed ways. They charge more and more: who will be their customers when no one has a job that covers their ridiculous premiums anymore?!?!?
$841 isn't that bad but people should still be able to know beforehand how much they're going to pay.
Angie Adwoa but they cant, its not like they can see the future, and they dont know what they will have to do since doing anything can change the price, and so telling a specific price over the phone is not the same as asking for the price of a car
That's only the 5% of the original price. If this guy didn't pay thousands of dollar per year for an insurance he would have sucked up for a cool 16k dollars
Carlos Sanchez He was asking for the prices of things.
Dumbest comment everrrrrrr
Carlos Sanchez They can, they have a list of codes and know what a regular birth with no abnormal procedures needed they just refuse to share it. They won't know if the birth will go as planned and what additional costs that will add, but they do know for a regular case. Just plain bullshit, everything medical in the US is a circus joke.
The important thing is that the hospital has absolutely no one to hold them accountable. And no one can fight the prices
One time when I was accompanying a family member to the hospital, I got a pretty wicked papercut on some of their paperwork, and I asked a nurse for a bandaid. While she was getting me one, I had a sudden realization, and was like "wait, this isn't going to be, like, $47 added onto his hospital bill, is it?!" She assured me it wouldn't, and it wasn't. But these are the things we have to consider, and it's ridiculous!
(Also I now keep bandaids in my purse, just in case, lol)
5:05 after 3.5 hours of calling and being put on hold, it’s “just starting to get frustrating”?!
OMG I’ve never got this many likes!!!! Thanks so much
this man is a saint
The BILL is BIGGER than the INFANT,
Yeaah.. why u yelling tho
MCPE grejer Iet im yell lol
And my wife wonders why I still use condoms while she's still on the pill 😒 I rather be safe than in debt
find a birthing center, or homebirth. they charge usally under 5,000
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And plus overpopulation is bad lol.
Or be like me and have no relations with women.
Fackts
Man just vlogged his child being born, clearly got his priorities in check.
I was joking
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His job must be hell
Rae
I have his job, it’s living hell, trust me, do one thing wrong and your f fired.
Things like this make me glad of the NHS
+H 246 Ditto
+H 246 "but wait times" - Americans
Meanwhile, we have shorter average waits than the US xD
+H 246 yeah wtf is america! like are you trying to emulate a 3rd world country or something?
+H 246 I'm just finishing up my nursing degree and this one of the reasons why I love the idea of working for the NHS.
+Oli Cansdale wait times dont matter if you cant afford to go!
I'm sorry is this some sort of American joke I'm to European to understand?
almost makes me wish i could live in europe
@@chihabgm7796 i wanna live in anywhere other than usa
@@mcplumpkin6191 no you dont. there are lots of worse countries than U.S.A
@@chihabgm7796 i guess I'll update it. Canada, Denmark, Bulgaria, or Australia. There could be a better country than those 4 though.
or norway
I paid €150 for a 7-day hospital stay after a c-section.
Thank goodness for healthcare in Belgium!