This Is Amazing - Shadow Colours Aren't What You Think

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2020
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    I'm so excited about this series on colour and light. Here we start by exploring the colours in the shadows. Even though I have heard of some of these ideas before, it was while making this video that I really started to be able to see these colours more clearly.
    You may have thought that shadows just make things darker, but in fact they open things up for totally different light sources to have a stronger influence. This information about shadow colours makes a huge impact on your ability to paint.
    We'll study some master paintings and explore the colours we see in the real world around us. Hope you enjoy it!
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  • @lovelifedrawing
    @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +11

    If you'd like to see my full conversation with Jared about colour and light, you can here: www.lovelifedrawing.com/colourconversation/
    and don't forget to check out his channel, linked in description

  • @laniakeas92
    @laniakeas92 10 місяців тому +3

    This kind of videos are ones of the moat important a person can ever see in one's life.
    Thank yoy so much for this!

  • @alexnewberry2728
    @alexnewberry2728 4 роки тому +42

    Valuable lessons imparted in an easy to understand manner. Loved seeing Maggie again! Thanks

  • @BigDomski
    @BigDomski 4 роки тому +16

    This is amazing to me. I've heard that shadows have their colours too, but when I first heard it I had no idea how to look for them. Thank you and Jared so much for this 😆

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +2

      yeah it's so cool to start seeing it. jared's helped me tons!

    • @JaredCullum
      @JaredCullum 4 роки тому +1

      Domo thank YOU for watching! :)

  • @linewise215
    @linewise215 4 роки тому +13

    So good and well explained! I love how excited you are about painting and drawing. I thought I was kind of a maniac because no one around would understand me. Now I know it's just passion ;-)

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +2

      hehe yeah i'm a bit nuts on it. don't worry it's everyone else that's weird ;)

  • @karou3205
    @karou3205 4 роки тому +8

    Wow, that reeeeeeally helped, thanks a lot! I've been struggling to understand light & shadow for years! ^^'

  • @JM51CASTILLO
    @JM51CASTILLO 2 роки тому

    Indeed, the videos popping and the end are really cool and yes! It is because of they being from this channel!

  • @staceypeak199
    @staceypeak199 4 роки тому +1

    I just want to point out that we see color in relation to its surrounding colors. A simple device to help see color more clearly can be created by anyone. For example; with the shadow issue discussed in the video, we know it's going to be a low saturation, then by looking at the shadow we can decide roughly the value but we are having a problem finding the hue. So, if we have a piece of cardboard or stiff cardstock or the like, we can cut a small hole in it, (maybe 1x1 cm, small but large enough to view through). Then paint or color a range of hues staying within the low saturation of the shadow and the value range of the shadow, making sure that each color's edge is against the hole. Then we hold the viewer up to see the shadow through it and compare the hues surrounding it to help make more apparent which one matches. Of course this is a lot to do for each scene but its a great tool when we are first learning to see subtleties in color shifts.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому

      good comment Stacey! i am planning a video about colour constancy which i think will be really fun because of the cool illusions we can look at

  • @kanachiaki
    @kanachiaki 4 роки тому +7

    oh wow!! that was really interesting, I've never noticed how colorful shadows can truly be (I'm also guilty of making shadows blue ahah) but after this videos I started doing little experiments with objects I had around me and it opened a new world to me 0.0 Thank you for sharing =)

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +2

      that's awesome! making this was an eye opener for me too. the world gets cooler and cooler (or warmer and warmer depending of course)

  • @EXHellfire
    @EXHellfire 3 роки тому

    another way to quickly evaluate shadow and light hues is to just knock all the way up the saturation for the whole picture and see what was really going on under the hood with it.
    In sunny outdoor scenes it'll make the lit areas all warm and the shaded areas all cool, but it's easier to see that it affects the whole picture that way

  • @fratzolaki19
    @fratzolaki19 3 роки тому

    omg!! how interesting to think about that shadow is a reflected by other things area! While i realised that, i instantly understood how difficult is Sorolla's art. shadows are sooo tricky!

  • @WiWillemijn
    @WiWillemijn 4 роки тому +2

    Love that trick to see what color it is
    I guess it also works with finding out what colors you need when painting portraits?
    (I often see green and all that in other people's portraits but I never know what to use because I didn't train my eyes to see that yet)

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +1

      that's an interesting question. I think it's really useful to help train your eyes up to see more colours and see the variety. however, when it comes time for you to do a painting, i suspect it would be best that you then use your eyes, understanding of the light in the room and intuition to build your colours. the reason I say that is 1) the camera crunches down colours to some extent and when you look at a person in real life, your eyes can eventually pick up more than the photo can, and 2) as the viewer I'd like to see what you saw and felt in those colours, exaggerating some elements of it etc. thanks for watching!

    • @WiWillemijn
      @WiWillemijn 4 роки тому

      @@lovelifedrawing okay thank you!

    • @goudvisbloem
      @goudvisbloem 4 роки тому

      Hey Wimsem! I'm exploring this myself too! Here's too much info to handle but you can dip a toe in this :) Green is often used in the Verdaccio technique, because it's the opposite colour of a pale peachy skin tone. It would make the colour deeper and the shadow tone more convincing ... Then there are also 'colour zones', for example the cheeks are more red, under the eyes is rather blue, ... If you google "colour zones" you'll find a few images, it would make a portrait look more life-like. On top of that I've heard that someone with a dark skintone has rather blue hues in the light because of the light reflecting and red shadows, whereas in fair skintones it would be the opposite as light would reflect more on underlying blood and blues in the shadow ... I'm nowhere near mastering this myself yet but I find it very interesting stuff!!

  • @ramonitavega354
    @ramonitavega354 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this great lesson I never thought of shadows in this way. Now I’ll be looking for these colors in shadows when I paint.

  • @SpaceMango
    @SpaceMango 4 роки тому +4

    This video made me excited about art again. Thank you! Makes me want to go back to art school again. I have to try out some still life painting.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +1

      Mango Fruit that is so awesome!

    • @JaredCullum
      @JaredCullum 4 роки тому

      Mango Fruit wonderful to read. :) thanks for watching!

  • @DavyGoestoHollywood
    @DavyGoestoHollywood 4 роки тому +1

    This was so timely. Exactly what I am struggling with! Thanks for posting this.

  • @cleof1503
    @cleof1503 4 роки тому +1

    I love the way you explain concepts... thank you for these wonderful tutorials. Keep well.

  • @crisalidathomassie1811
    @crisalidathomassie1811 4 роки тому

    Thanks so much for the info and the connection with Jared. You are awesome!

  • @nancyjohnson5483
    @nancyjohnson5483 2 роки тому

    I also am a beginner in this journey and your enthusiasm is so motivating. Glad I found you at this time. Thanks so much! And luv the dog breaks.

  • @Poppycockify
    @Poppycockify 4 роки тому

    Great video; it helped me understand a lot stuff (I was at the shadows are cooler stage before watching this). A colour tutorial series is just what I need.
    That Sorolla painting is something else. Masterful!

  • @suchetabandyopadhyaya6120
    @suchetabandyopadhyaya6120 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for opening my eyes to see the shadows in the right way. Always wondered how the artists find so many colours in the shadows.

  • @Emiliapocalypse
    @Emiliapocalypse 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for all this info, so well explained. I didn’t even realize shadows had certain colors until a friend pointed it out. Completely blew my mind.
    I’m one of those people who need things clearly explained for it to penetrate my thick skull, and you do that well.
    Especially appreciate the pep talk because I was about to chalk this up to “well there goes another thing I just don’t have the gift for”. But learning that it can be learned gives me heaps of hope. Thanks for your channel, it makes me not want to give up. ✌️

    • @JaredCullum
      @JaredCullum 4 роки тому +1

      Emiliapocalypse hope it was encouraging- thanks for watching

  • @limonsabroso
    @limonsabroso 4 роки тому +1

    I have so many problems with colours and shadowing in general, so this video really helped me. Thanks again for the hard work :)

  • @rakhilrubanik
    @rakhilrubanik 4 роки тому

    thank you so much! I'm learning to paint with you. Your videos are really helpful

  • @SylvesterMassey
    @SylvesterMassey 4 роки тому +2

    Nice !!! Love this ! Thanks for sharing the knowledge 👍 adding this to my playlist!

  • @zimmyfinger89
    @zimmyfinger89 3 роки тому

    Just wanted to thank you for all your videos. I appreciate the way you communicate, by showing and explaining techniques/how you are thinking. Seeing you analyze your old work, and your thought process helps a lot. This kind of teaching is rare for me.

  • @AleksVHaecky
    @AleksVHaecky 4 роки тому

    Quite amazing. When I first looked at the street and fabric images, the shadows where just gray, and as Jared points it out, my vision changes and I can see the colors of the shadows. Pretty amazing shift!

  • @johnme5183
    @johnme5183 4 роки тому +1

    great video Kenzo! Thank you very much!

  • @KotoCrash
    @KotoCrash 4 роки тому +2

    This was really helpful, thank you!

  • @rodrigogalliano4609
    @rodrigogalliano4609 2 роки тому

    Bravo.Super good lesson! Thank you

  • @AndyKing1987
    @AndyKing1987 4 роки тому +3

    Great concise explanations as always, really enjoying your colour related content Kenzo. I've just started painting myself and it's weird but great to be back at the start of a journey again. Thanks for the great content sir!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +1

      yeah i agree Andy. i've done colour on and off for ages, but this is the first time to really do it properly. very exciting - i love the steep bit of the learning curve

  • @amarynth100
    @amarynth100 4 роки тому

    every time a frustration cames out just shows where to work on . that's beautiful . one more on yr chanel . very interesting ideas and notions. thank you

  • @apgwilym
    @apgwilym 4 роки тому +4

    Brilliant, so enlightening.

  • @jasonfml1
    @jasonfml1 4 роки тому

    You are such a brilliant teacher, thank you very much.

  • @lynnestockford1683
    @lynnestockford1683 4 роки тому

    Thank you Kenzo.....this has really helped!

  • @SarahBurnsStudio
    @SarahBurnsStudio 4 роки тому +1

    Brilliant, thank you for making this video!

  • @JSebLf
    @JSebLf 2 роки тому

    I totally forgot about the color, because I find it quite frustrating and overwhelming. But this video has created a lot of expectation and desire to catch the colors again.
    Thank you Kenzo

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  2 роки тому

      I was intimidated by colour but now it’s super fun. The values need to work, and you probably practised that from drawing, so the colour part is mostly just fun :)

  • @jahlynreyes
    @jahlynreyes 4 роки тому +1

    I'm so excited to see your color journey!!! I love color, but I have trouble using it to it's fullest potential. This video was very helpful! I'm excited to incorporate this into my practice.

  • @friendfortheartists
    @friendfortheartists 10 місяців тому

    This is the best video for apprentices I've seen on UA-cam. Great job. I've got to make a post for my channel on this.

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 Рік тому

    That was an outstanding explanation. Thanks.

  • @roshnilakhani3961
    @roshnilakhani3961 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing video, very informative. Thank you!

  • @debilita9999
    @debilita9999 4 роки тому +2

    Starting to mess around with the color too! Always was afraid and thought to meself, I'll just stick to pencils and grayscale since I don't see color variations. Thank you for the video, kinda gives me courage knowing I am not alone and even someone like you struggles with it.

  • @maryf.1956
    @maryf.1956 4 роки тому

    Wow! Sooo informative Thank you I will start looking at things differently

  • @nat-iy8np
    @nat-iy8np 3 роки тому

    I loved this so much ,thanks

  • @areedy9493
    @areedy9493 4 роки тому +1

    My goodness! This is right where I am! Thank you so much, this is great!!

  • @vampirethespiderbatgod9740
    @vampirethespiderbatgod9740 3 роки тому

    Agree with you, mate!!. I'm starting to take a very curious interest in this!

  • @DanutaONeill
    @DanutaONeill 4 роки тому

    Thanks Kenzo, another really useful and reassuring lesson.

  • @MrJmw3rd
    @MrJmw3rd 3 роки тому

    Very, very helpful to me and my art! Thanks for the wonderful explanation of this complex subject.

  • @kr6302
    @kr6302 2 роки тому

    This video is priceless. I've been struggling with understanding shadows for months now. Especially recognizing the cast shadows and the form shadows and the color shifts in each of them. This video helped me understand the basics so I can explore this subject more. Great work!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  2 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful. This was a fun one to make!

  • @sylvainst-pierre8725
    @sylvainst-pierre8725 4 роки тому

    This is so cool ! tks again

  • @perlaguzman4065
    @perlaguzman4065 4 роки тому

    i've have so many questions about these. Great! thak you very much. hugs from Venezuela!

  • @stacianastasio1499
    @stacianastasio1499 3 роки тому

    ❤️❤️❤️ such good information! 🙏

  • @MsNoracat
    @MsNoracat 4 роки тому

    thank you!🙏

  • @bilbonedabunny241
    @bilbonedabunny241 4 роки тому +1

    I'm having goosebumps when watching the video, oh the feeling of excitement !

  • @WaditaX
    @WaditaX 4 роки тому +1

    I can say i learned something today as an attempt of illustrator.. thank you!

  • @user-og9nl5mt1b
    @user-og9nl5mt1b 4 роки тому +2

    Great video

  • @MonicaJamesFineArt
    @MonicaJamesFineArt 10 місяців тому

    Wow. I learned so much from this. It was particularly reassuring to understand that this is a skill that can be learned as we turn on the “noticing” switch. Would you be willing to share (or even do a video) about what program you used to identify the shadow color? Thank you!

  • @patrickschlieker3770
    @patrickschlieker3770 3 роки тому

    As always this video is very helpfull and full of insights which will promptly frop from my mind the moment i start painting. ;) Funny thing is i didn't really make the connection to who Jared was until i recognized his paintings in the video.

  • @Roman-ey3yi
    @Roman-ey3yi 4 роки тому +1

    I've been missing your short form videos

  • @MissBooksmith
    @MissBooksmith 4 роки тому +1

    Thnk you for this. Interesting and inspiring.

  • @lylewyant3356
    @lylewyant3356 3 роки тому

    I'm a landscape painter and understand warm and cool colors, also colors in the distance are less saturated and more diffused. I'm not sure if I have been doing my foreground shadows and the use of reflected light correctly.

  • @AngryAndrew
    @AngryAndrew 4 роки тому +11

    Excuse me, but what was again the name of the artist you were talking about with Jared on 10:17?
    By the way, great video! As always

  • @alandawson7957
    @alandawson7957 3 роки тому

    Hello Kenzo.A good tip i got about shadows was to think of their edge and interior ,and paint them seperately .maybee paint the initial shape with the opposite temperature of the light source, and then fill the interior with local colour and reflections.Thanks for the great vids .

  • @cropotkin
    @cropotkin 4 роки тому +1

    You are a joy

  • @grayovercast
    @grayovercast 4 роки тому +1

    It is really fun. There is just so much about drawing and painting we can learn and discuss. It's amazing.
    Also, tired bananas make the best banana bread!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому

      yeah it's a big adventure that just gets more fun!

  • @observerfx212
    @observerfx212 4 роки тому +3

    ok mind blown

  • @zachs4204
    @zachs4204 3 роки тому

    13:53 I giggled a bit at this part, knowing he eventually researches how color doesn't actually exist😂

  • @arindommazumdar371
    @arindommazumdar371 3 роки тому

    This channel is so nice!

  • @anzolomyer4584
    @anzolomyer4584 4 роки тому +12

    This guy is saying “tomato” like “tomato” in order to start a raging debate in the comments!
    But excellent video. Thank you.

    • @JaredCullum
      @JaredCullum 4 роки тому +2

      pepper penguin haha thanks for watching!

    • @kitawhitmore5956
      @kitawhitmore5956 4 роки тому +1

      But ‘tomato’ is the English pronunciation 🤷🏽‍♀️🤔

  • @IwaNNa1MaLLh
    @IwaNNa1MaLLh 3 роки тому

    truely eye-opening

  • @majeddraws5104
    @majeddraws5104 4 роки тому +15

    using the color picker, and making swatches from the dark and light areas, does it help?

    • @leinine1834
      @leinine1834 4 роки тому +5

      it sure does help a lot indeed!
      Just observing how the color wheel reacts to where you move the color picker is a really great help for finding out mental shortcuts to understand how light and color work, and how to apply it digitally! I recommand

    • @majeddraws5104
      @majeddraws5104 4 роки тому

      @@leinine1834 thanks a lot! :)

    • @laniakeas92
      @laniakeas92 10 місяців тому

      This is so far one of the quickest ways to learn painting.
      Same applies to anatomy. I often outline silhouettes while study8ng and my brain memorizes the way muscle work.

  • @Mioumi
    @Mioumi 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this eye opening video :0

  • @neleyabubble1152
    @neleyabubble1152 4 роки тому +2

    Love this video, its everything i need understand, your content is so right and revealing, you should teach at my university, my art teachers are not as good as you, you should have many more subscribers😄

  • @grantharper6033
    @grantharper6033 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Kenzo, I love yours and your Mom’s art and I watch all of your videos. I’m thinking your mom is more about what she sees and feels and you’re more about what you see and analyse/think. Either way I love both of your results and whilst I am very much like you, I need to know why/how/when etc but when I m drawing and painting now I try to let go of that and just feel my way through it and see what happens. Awesome videos and thank you for all the work you put in to Lovelifedrawing.

  • @jdoc7627
    @jdoc7627 Рік тому

    awesome! I am also in your Fresh Eyes...doing it all bit by bit. Jacqueline

  • @richarddunn7017
    @richarddunn7017 3 роки тому

    If you look closely at the paintings of Frazetta, his shadows are different colors caused by reflected light.

  • @marceloneves7738
    @marceloneves7738 4 роки тому +1

    Este foi o melhor vídeo que vi sobre este assunto. Obrigado!!

    • @marceloneves7738
      @marceloneves7738 4 роки тому +1

      It was the best video about this subject. Thank you!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +1

      thanks Marcelo, and for providing a translation :)

  • @kitawhitmore5956
    @kitawhitmore5956 4 роки тому +3

    I love this video, you’ve helped me understand my understanding of colour. I thought I was the same as you, only seeing greys.
    Btw you might already know, but James gurney’s book, ‘colour and light’ is a really good tool to have, check it out if you haven’t already :)

  • @Neoproxy_
    @Neoproxy_ 4 роки тому +2

    Could you do a video about grass and vegetation ? I have a problem, I want to put shadows on grass but I don't know where because it's plane...

  • @Finkeldinken
    @Finkeldinken 4 роки тому +2

    This is so well timed for me! I have a cursory understanding of this kind of colour theory but not enough practical time put in to "see" it or "get it" at all. I've been put off by that in the past, but I'll give it a go again alongside you, then!

  • @user-wy2or9tm8z
    @user-wy2or9tm8z 3 роки тому

    ההדרכות שלך מצויינות!
    תודה רבה 😄

  • @BolshephobicBabe
    @BolshephobicBabe 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Feel like I'll be seeing and analyzing the world differently now :p

  • @ryantoogood2209
    @ryantoogood2209 3 роки тому

    This makes me wish I wasn't colour blind! It's so hard for me to see colours that aren't super saturated.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  2 роки тому

      sorry i don't know much about colour blindness but good luck!

  • @Teewriter
    @Teewriter 4 роки тому

    My like is 941. Make it 147,000. It deserves.

  • @art_julio_lancis
    @art_julio_lancis 4 роки тому

    Good content good video friend 👍 👌 💯

  • @aninastar
    @aninastar Рік тому

    Do you have more videos on color?

  • @antiblabla1208
    @antiblabla1208 4 роки тому +1

    nice! go on... i am right about to start with colors for the first time seriously, but i am scared. i bought watercolor pencils and i am not sure about how to use them, but i like the vividness of their colors. but i dont know how to combine drawing (lines, i can do that) with painting (i cannot do it). can you do some video about watercolor pencil technique? that would be awesome.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому

      there's plenty to come in this series including the transition from drawing to painting. however, i don't think we'll cover watercolour pencils specifically

  • @victoriachanst
    @victoriachanst 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, Kenzo! I have always wanted to capture the illusion of colours and light, this topic interests me very much. Sometimes I play a 'game' on the iPad where I pick a colour from the palette (eg. on Procreate) by eye to match a point in a photo. Surprising how often I get it vastly wrong! I'm still trying to train my eye to do this better, and I try to paint from life (and not photo) when I can, as it seems this is the best way to train the eye.
    And thank you for introducing Jared. I've now followed his UA-cam channel and Instagram, they're very inspiring. I particularly love his art demos.
    I'm wondering if you could clarify the name of that amazing artist that you and Jared were discussing about in this video, who painted that painting featuring people examining a large white fabric. I couldn't quite catch the name and the subtitles are hopeless. Thank you!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  3 роки тому +1

      Victoria Chan hey Victoria! The artist was Sorolla. I have the same experience with testing myself with Procreate’s colour picker! Hope you’re doing well :)

    • @victoriachanst
      @victoriachanst 3 роки тому

      @@lovelifedrawing I'm well. Thank you!

  • @susanb4816
    @susanb4816 2 роки тому

    Check out maggie's song by chris stapleton. Life is beautiful

  • @mamvdberg
    @mamvdberg 3 роки тому

    Could you please put in the name of the painter “Soroyan”? I love to see more work of that artist but can’t find it. Thanks for another great informative video!

  • @mcenroe9332
    @mcenroe9332 4 роки тому

    F L O O R G A N G OOOH

  • @DesertVox
    @DesertVox 3 роки тому

    If computers take so long to process these reflections of light bouncing interminably, how is it that the human mind is supposed to that, or even a fraction of that? It must be either based on obervation only, or at random.

  • @amyvanzi9845
    @amyvanzi9845 4 роки тому

    Floor Gang!

  • @user-yf9gq3vv2r
    @user-yf9gq3vv2r 3 роки тому

    Hello
    Everything are not how we think

  • @DazzlingAction
    @DazzlingAction 3 роки тому

    In short their is a boring use of gray and a good way of using gray.

  • @SooYeonSan
    @SooYeonSan 4 роки тому

    Ah I see, you're floor gang as well

  • @matheworson9669
    @matheworson9669 3 роки тому

    just buy a rtx

  • @TheSCPStudio
    @TheSCPStudio 4 роки тому +1

    I find it surprising that someone as experienced as you believes in such a thing as "gifts" that make you a better artist. After so many hours of practice and skill development, I’d think you’d understand things are achieved by hard work. I personally don’t believe in talent or gifts. Everything we know is learned, we’re an empty slate when we’re born. I think with the proper practice and knowledge, anyone has the chance to learn how to do pretty much anything.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому +1

      the video makes the exact point you made - it's about the work you do, not having special eyes. i do mention moments of self-doubt and why they were wrong because we all have those moments

    • @TheSCPStudio
      @TheSCPStudio 4 роки тому

      @@lovelifedrawing well, I meant initially of course. You do realize it as you go on, but you've put a lot of work into art (and it shows) and that's mainly why I was surprised that you immediately assumed that you need a special gift to see and understand shadows to this extent.
      Thanks for the reply! I'm glad you've gotten the hang of this stuff. It always feels really good when something finally clicks and you're able to understand it.
      I guess I should have worded my initial comment better. It does seem like I missed the point of the video. Thanks for all the work you put into this stuff though. It's helped a ton.

  • @user-zw8gb8mf4w
    @user-zw8gb8mf4w 4 роки тому

    marry me