How to Install Stair Treads & Risers: Pro Techniques

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  • @MrNaliux
    @MrNaliux Рік тому +9

    I got my Collins tread gauges just last November like you recommended, I waited for it to redo the stair for a client. My helper said we didn't need to wait cuz he new a guy he help got some at HD. When we where done with the job I asked him if they did the stairs like I did, he said "no way, this is way too nicer and tighter lines." I told him I kinda knew that, (me all proud), cuz he didn't have the teacher that I have. 🤣

  • @davidalonzo3896
    @davidalonzo3896 Рік тому +4

    Very nice....Detail carpenters are a dying breed , it's comforting to watch trim carpenter at his craft. Been doing this for over 40 years and it never gets old to watch craftsmanship at it's best !.. thumbs up brother

  • @mikeboschman8347
    @mikeboschman8347 10 місяців тому +3

    you’re a life save dude! thanks, now have the confidence to tackle this myself

  • @tc9148
    @tc9148 Рік тому +4

    Attention to detail is so impressive.

  • @feend0g
    @feend0g 7 місяців тому +1

    I am no master carpenter but we are remodeling our stairs and following your advice to the letter. The tread gauge trick alone was a life saver figuring out measurements with 20 year old walls. Thank you for this great tutorial and we love all of your videos! 😁

  • @phooesnax
    @phooesnax Рік тому +4

    You are so good at explaining snd doing what you do.

  • @albertchotchaev1532
    @albertchotchaev1532 Рік тому +3

    after watching your video I've installed a set of stair today and man I would really like to say how much I appreciate your help! thank you! love your videos

  • @oneslowworker
    @oneslowworker Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much for this video. I have a background as a general carpenter. A few houses, decks, additions but never finish stairs.I built the house I live in now. With our help I felt comfortable enough to accept this challenge. 3 full days to remove the old stairs, build the stringers, and install the risers and treads. I never used the stair gauges before but they were so easy to use, making both risers and treads fit perfectly. I will always give you credit and my stair partner. Thanks SO much

  • @kevinoneill41
    @kevinoneill41 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, you make it look easy glad you showed that trick screwing in from the backside with those special type of screw that helps to not split the wood great tip

  • @georgeelliott3782
    @georgeelliott3782 Рік тому +2

    Man. I've been waiting for a video like this about the stairs and skirt board. I'm about to redo mine. Thank you for such a perfect explanation on how to do this.

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 5 місяців тому +2

    At my age and knee situation I doubt I’ll become a master stair builder in my future but I would have loved to have learned this 30 years ago. I could have retired by now but wouldn’t have.

  • @John-cb6wn
    @John-cb6wn Рік тому +3

    This guy amazes me best on the internet

  • @jefferyholland
    @jefferyholland Рік тому +2

    I have always been a big fan of screwing in from the back side. It is very satisfying to be able to look down and see a nice tight fit and no squeaking.

    • @gingerlox1050
      @gingerlox1050 8 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂 sorry… I just can’t!

    • @cjsawinski
      @cjsawinski 5 місяців тому +1

      I’ve always screws the risers to the treads from the back. I do basically the same with the skirts… just square cut (sometimes some minor adjustment) the risers/treads, leave the skirt board only tacked to the wall… then as your working your way up put some 3” screws through the stringer into the skirt, it will suck the skirt up nice and tight to your treads/risers… this way will always work if you have a cap on the skirt board anyways, if you don’t you might have some minor gaps between skirt and wall but painters can caulk that and then your skirt is nice and straight even if the wall isn’t perfect. Only time this doesn’t really work is if the wall is just in really bad shape…

  • @ormonde96
    @ormonde96 3 місяці тому

    Hi Spencer,you’re a top,top carpenter and I have learned a lot ,and that’s just the way you explain things.much appreciated 👍

  • @dtna
    @dtna Рік тому +3

    A true craftsman...

  • @michael.schuler
    @michael.schuler Рік тому +9

    I bought Collins gauges and would emphasize Spencer's caution to be very careful with them when moving from stairs to cutting station. The Collins design is very elegant, and the crisp steel marking edges are much sharper and more durable than wooden ones. However, I find that the very close proximity of the two clamping knobs gripping the 1x2 does not resist movement very well if the edge is bumped even a little bit. I've addressed this by mounting the Collins edges to a shop-made cross piece setup I built years ago, in which the clamping knobs are spaced about 6" apart on rip of 1/2" plywood provided with a pair of slots ar each end to allow adjustable width. It takes a few more minutes if you need to make a custom length crosspiece, but the grip of the knobs makes this setup far more secure against an accidental bump. (Maybe I'm too rough for the finish work I do...:-)

    • @syringconstruction9825
      @syringconstruction9825 Рік тому +1

      Brilliant! I’ve encountered the same issue and this sounds like the best solution I’ve found yet.

    • @michael.schuler
      @michael.schuler Рік тому +2

      @@syringconstruction9825 "Stair Wizard" looks like a well-designed and very robust tool. But I've never tried it, a little bulky-looking for my taste.

  • @PamSterling
    @PamSterling 7 місяців тому +2

    This is awesome! Your precision and attention to detail are much appreciated :)

  • @aarongreenlee7867
    @aarongreenlee7867 Рік тому +2

    I agree about Pintrest projects. In the middle of doing a pintrest Azak deck with a built in bar remodel install right now.. I think we are on version 3.8 or something now....

  • @richarddenton8928
    @richarddenton8928 Рік тому +1

    Nice video I'm geeking out on your channel . I been looking for a stair builder for 2 yrs , really have asked 5 contractors a cabinet maker, and 3 home renovation companies, so I'm taking over.

  • @JackKirbyFan
    @JackKirbyFan Рік тому +1

    Great video. I learned so much. I have zero desire to put in stairs but I understand now how to do them.

  • @kennethlerman9664
    @kennethlerman9664 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for your very detailed video. Some suggestions on prepping your risers:
    1 -- You could drill the pilot holes to attach the treads before you install the risers.
    2 -- You could also start the screws in the risers before you install them.
    That would save you some time and also avoid the awkward position when you start the screws after the risers have been installed.
    Thanks, again.
    Ken

  • @lennyadamowicz7642
    @lennyadamowicz7642 Рік тому +3

    Perfect! Great job! Thanks for the Video! 👌👍👌🫡🤩

  • @RKSingh-pi4dq
    @RKSingh-pi4dq 2 місяці тому

    I Can't thank you enough for posting this. Great video

  • @zephyr1408
    @zephyr1408 3 місяці тому

    Here I am a yr later watching this again just trying to stay updated! U know in my area I just don’t do enough of them ? Everyone ( all the GC’s) use a big stair outfit and they R good and hard to beat! Therefore I do some repairs and updates that’s about it!
    Hope your well Spence!

  • @cedarburgbassin8320
    @cedarburgbassin8320 Рік тому +4

    If you want a wider knee pad, take two and glue to a scrap piece of carpet, so they’re always together and they’re twice as wide for stairs

  • @petem9063
    @petem9063 Рік тому +5

    Nice work! Unfortunately I have found that cordless 15ga and 18ga nailers just aren’t consistent enough with oak. I’m all about cordless but this is definitely a situation where air tools are still king.

  • @TCM1966
    @TCM1966 Рік тому +3

    Great video! Very informative! The point you mane about protecting you knees is very true. I’m in my late 50s and if I don’t wear knee pads I’m hurting for many days. I’ve started buying Duluth pants with the knee pads and really like them.

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 5 місяців тому +1

    Such perfection! I really love it

  • @dudarenkochannel
    @dudarenkochannel 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you man! Saved me a tonnes of time! Great job!!🎉

  • @cjsawinski
    @cjsawinski 5 місяців тому +1

    I leave the wall skirt board only tacked to the wall. Then with just square cuts on my risers and treads I run a (or a few) screws through the stringer into the skirt to suck the skirt tight to treads and risers. I also screw my risers into the treads from the back side. And use LOTS of glue lol.

  • @michaelplays2449
    @michaelplays2449 Рік тому +2

    Great video !!!! Thank you

  • @mikeboschman8347
    @mikeboschman8347 10 місяців тому +1

    thank you so much! these videos are so helpful

  • @BigJohnson1566
    @BigJohnson1566 Рік тому +3

    I notice you use the term “We” a lot, best I can tell is we is by himself an awful lot. Great content, much appreciated👍

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +5

      There is something about saying "I, I, I, ME, ME, My, My," all the time that doesn't sound right.

  • @alrightythen1533
    @alrightythen1533 Рік тому +3

    I've been a dedicated PL Premium user for 30 years. However, for stairs, I recently switched to Bona R880. You have to get it from a flooring supplier or order it online. But I've found in stair tread/riser installation it beats out using PL. Here are the reasons why:
    1. It is very grabby. Boards are less likely to slide around
    2. It doesn't ooze out of the gun the way PL has a tendency to do, leaving less chance for mess. It is also less messy during application.
    3. Sets up way faster than PL. It starts setting in about 10 minutes and can be speeded up to set in 5 minutes if you mist it with water.
    4. Allows for movement. PL locks everything in place. However, it doesn't move. In removing old existing treads, I've actually come across the rare tread where the joint bewteen the tread an riser has broken. The flexibility in Bona R880 is designed to prevent this because it allows for movement.
    I still use PL Premium for pretty much everything else, but I highly recommend trying out the Bona R880 for stairs.
    Keep up the great work, Spencer! Love your content!

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +2

      Thanks! I'm always on the lookout for better products.

    • @alrightythen1533
      @alrightythen1533 Рік тому +1

      @@InsiderCarpentry same here. You've definitely turned me on to a few items that I've purchased through your links! PS I fixed all the typos - including I spelled your name wrong. Downfall of typing on my phone😬

    • @richardcloud9265
      @richardcloud9265 9 місяців тому

      @alrightythen1533
      I really like the detail in your post. I’m a homeowner about to convert a carpeted stair case to white oak treads and painted risers. Choosing the best adhesive possible is key to my situation.
      I’m bent on avoiding squeaks and, if possible to either have either…
      1. no face-nails nails in the treads, or
      2. really small ones (18g) or
      3. almost invisible ones (23g pins). I spoke with Grex about use on treads
      It’s because I’m using only hard-wax oil (NO STAIN). There is much color variation compared to an evenly stained medium-to-dark stained tread and I’ve not found an easy way to color-match them easily. Putty comes in plenty of colors, but is something I’m not sold on yet. I hear many complaints about it…but maybe that is not definitive. Don’t know.
      Choosing the right adhesive has the potential to address a lot of my concerns so any add’l insights you could offer will be appreciated. Had you used F26 by Leech in the past before settling on PL over it? I know you are onto Bona 880 now and have heard promising things about their quantum product for use on treads without face nails. The one that comes in a “sausage tube”, not the thinner Quantum Flow for floors.
      I was going to use PL Premium based on how many folks on youtube recommend it. Then I kept running into a lot of local carpenters and builders highly recommended F26 adhesive by Leeech. Swearing by it, actually. The company has an outstanding tech support person who absolutely says F26 does not expand or swell and stays flexible indefinitely and that it is what doing the holding over time (decades) which prevents squeaks, not the nails.
      Will leave it there for now. Can add a little for if anyone is kind enough to reply to my post.

  • @jpdthe3rd
    @jpdthe3rd Місяць тому

    good job with the overlay! so i do them a little different ill cuts and scribe all my risers first and let them to fit well then ill co back and do my treads one at a time. cut 2 blocks the same length and width to scribe my tread to the skirt they need to be slightly over the extra length of my tread. ill put one block between the the return nosing and the outside skit and the other against the wall skirt. ill use this to transfer the skirt to the tread then ill cut on my line. ill go back with a grinder and a sanding dist to back cut along the tread but will avoid grinding any of the nosing. after i get my tread to fit well ill use titebond 2 or 3 to glue the riser to the back of the trad and nail it off and set my nails with the hammer. generally i dont use pl but liquid nails for my adhesive, it cures to a softer final hardness and i find that helps to keep stair noise down when walking up them. ill install the tread and riser for each step as a single unit. ill do 3 nails trough the face of the riser and 2 through the side of the skit. ill add a dab of glue or adhesive to where the riser meets the outside skirt. generally no glue on the skirt.

  • @treygriffin1176
    @treygriffin1176 Рік тому +1

    If those are young mill treads you can knock that return off to shorten up the tread up on table saw. I do it to bevel the back of the tread, I rip a strip of wood to put in the back side of he return. It’s a pain I have to do it at least once a week on remodel work dang 9” runs.

  • @leoonardotaormina5676
    @leoonardotaormina5676 Рік тому +2

    You also can set a dado on the underside of the tread, whats nice with that is your dimension is set, just need to plumb your risers and nail it place. Little bit more work but you have a nice shop, easy set up for you. Keep up the good work, enjoy your workmanship and videos.

    • @als1023
      @als1023 Рік тому +1

      Then leave the riser high the depth of the dado? Slightly less, actaully.
      Thanks.

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 Рік тому +2

      @@als1023 yes, that is the idea.
      In this case you would probably have to stop dado these, so you can't see the dado from the side.

  • @Cousin.Justin
    @Cousin.Justin Рік тому +3

    *Welcome Back*

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Cousin Justin! Welcome back to you as well! I fee like it's been a while since I've see you chime in...

  • @fernandosanfranciscoca9278
    @fernandosanfranciscoca9278 8 днів тому +1

    You do great work!!
    Can you put skirts on the open side ?

  • @ConstantMaintenance
    @ConstantMaintenance 2 місяці тому

    Great Tips

  • @21stCenturyFlooring
    @21stCenturyFlooring Рік тому +4

    The craftsmanship and attention to detail is really great to watch. I always enjoy your content.
    Watching this as a flooring guy, having never done hardwood steps I do have one question (for now lol).
    If the backside drywall wasn't on, or you still had access to the backside of the stringers (say as in an under stair closet), would you take the time to pocket hole screw the tops of the backside of the risers to the nosing of the tread?
    Would this be severe overkill or would it be a step you would take if given the opportunity?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +4

      I definitely would if I had access to it. As a matter of fact, I can remember a job years ago where I did have access and was able to do that.

    • @DesertRatFabrication
      @DesertRatFabrication 10 місяців тому

      To bad I can’t rent a fes tool stair saw with guide

  • @daveklassen924
    @daveklassen924 Рік тому +1

    Looks good 👍

  • @danroscigno187
    @danroscigno187 4 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @1975CMS
    @1975CMS Рік тому +2

    Fantastic video, helped me so much. One question for you though....when screwing in those risers from the back have you ever dropped that drill? I can only imagine what you would go through if you did :)

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +1

      Never a drill but I have lost a couple of torpedo levels. LOL :(

  • @jonwillett7351
    @jonwillett7351 Рік тому +1

    On the outside skirt, id really like to see you tackle a mitered corner to see how you do it. I keep two saws, a left bladed one and a right. Whats your method?

  • @ibarskiy
    @ibarskiy Рік тому +4

    Great video as always. How do you handle the last riser where you can't really access to screw into the tread? Just a bunch of glue or PL?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +1

      Yep. Try and make sure the riser is as straight as possible when you nail it on. Then push the tread into it with adhesive on the back of the tread.

    • @francisbuxton5445
      @francisbuxton5445 Рік тому +2

      You could also pre-assemble the riser and tread together on a flat table then install it as one unit

  • @camfarrell7508
    @camfarrell7508 Рік тому +1

    Can you or someone elaborate on why you add plywood pieces to your riser and runs on the stringers? You’ve mentioned they were setup for carpet, not treads on a previous video.

  • @HelenAMyers
    @HelenAMyers 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you. Rehabbing A Townhome To Sell It.

  • @michaelcolyar6319
    @michaelcolyar6319 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I would like to see how you are doing the landing.

  • @charlottenee8018
    @charlottenee8018 Рік тому +3

    QUESTION: what size nail are you using in this example?
    Thanks for the video---I'm getting ready to do this process and your instruction has been very helpful!

    • @bumish
      @bumish Рік тому +1

      a brad nail. it's 18 gauge.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +3

      18 Ga on the risers. 15 ga on the treads.

  • @KenBissell-oq2ns
    @KenBissell-oq2ns 6 місяців тому +1

    Spencer, love the content.
    We used to rabbet the underside of tread and allow a wider riser to recess up into rabbet. What’s your thoughts on that?

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 5 місяців тому +1

    I always wanted to master stair building because that was where the money was. Just never really got to it.

  • @JL-fly7
    @JL-fly7 2 місяці тому

    I noticed one thing. There is a small gap maybe 1/8 in between your riser and stringer. I am wondering you are doing that on purpose. Can you set bottom of riser flush against the stringer? Thanks a lot

  • @bryansimon3206
    @bryansimon3206 Рік тому +2

    Just scribed them back in age of the dinosaurs 😅

  • @user-hh4oc2ch1q
    @user-hh4oc2ch1q 5 місяців тому

    I've been studying your stair techniques in preparation to replace my 1st set of stairs that had been carpeted. The stringers are not the best and I wonder if you have any tips for dealing with low quality (sloppy cuts) and damaged (way too many nails split the wood) stringers. I also noticed the white oak treads have some checking and small cracks on the end. (probably my fault putting them in the garage for a few days) Hoping it can be dealt with (glue?) to make sure it doesn't spread. I'd rather take the hit and buy more than have problems develop after they're glued in,. I had paid a carpenter but they were wholly incompetent and I had to stop work. The following quotes were ~$1000/step for 36" no return straight run treads, so I feel trapped into finishing it myself. I trust this channel and it's subscribers (amazing % of experienced carpenters) for quality info and appreciate any wisdom.

  • @Paul37Ontario
    @Paul37Ontario 5 місяців тому +1

    What's the finish on that 1/4 stick out of the riser????

  • @t-rocket6381
    @t-rocket6381 Місяць тому

    Beautiful work…..But what are those clear things that sit on the brim of your hat for?

  • @usroyalremodelingllc2064
    @usroyalremodelingllc2064 Рік тому

    good video! only thing i wouldve done different is cut a small return piece out of the offcut of the risers so the grains would match when looking from the side, other than that nice work man!

    • @henrypeisch5289
      @henrypeisch5289 Рік тому

      A mitered return might defeat the purpose of this design. End grain with the same species as the tread is what I think the designer is after here. This will be a one off for the designer or architect…too often, professionals (architects and designers) and clients with no tool time under their belts will want to create a unique look even if it is unsound. No psychoanalysis here but it is often an ego thing. A stair case is not the place to experiment with design. Safety first. I have always believed that a painted rise is the safest stair. Visually, it calls out the tread when ascending the stair. But all that aside, I might have suggested slight chamfers at the end grain. Sort of a thru tenon furniture look. But not a mitered return to lose the end grain.

  • @Gary-mq1hn
    @Gary-mq1hn 10 місяців тому

    Hey Spencer. It’s seems you want the tightest possible joint between the risers, the treads and the skirt board, but what about the wood expansion. How is that accommodated? We leave a gap between flooring and the walls and everything else for floating floors at least. Does proper adhesive stop the expansion? Really confused on this one. Please help. Thanks.

  • @richardcloud9265
    @richardcloud9265 Місяць тому

    Why do you prefer pencil over razor knife to mark White oak (6:35)? Why did you face nail the treads in this video after avoiding it like the plague on previous videos? I will not use them. Did you have a bad outcome relying on PL adhesive only? In another video, I see you alternate between starting your cut from at the nose and back of the tread. It implies tearout is not an issue on the nose regardless of the cut direction.
    Can excellent cuts be made using a sliding miter saw? If the HRK is superior, let me know. I own neither. I’m open to purchasing either, but think the SCMS will be used more often after stairs are finished.

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 5 місяців тому

    I know you have compensated for finish floor but I mean if they really screw up. Would you just not take the job? 24:11

  • @thomasdutton6894
    @thomasdutton6894 Рік тому

    Found u recently. I am trying to tackle replacing carpet with hardwood. My stairs are a bit complicated. I'd really like to learn and need to build some confidence. Any book you'd recommend on stair remodel to help me? Main complication is removal of a knee wall and resulting expansion of the length of each stair. Meaning, you can see the edge of the stairs from the side rather than the treads and risers bumping up against the knee wall.

  • @lordpaxman
    @lordpaxman Рік тому

    Awesome video and HGTV should pick you up. When you nail the tread to the riser underneath how do you make sure the nail doesn’t blow out?

  • @brianwright9125
    @brianwright9125 5 місяців тому +1

    When you nailed the tread down to the riser you were using you nailer parallel to the riser but it should be perpendicular because nails are designed to wander left or right of the gun not up and down. You risk blowing out the face of the riser.

  • @tpbeatty
    @tpbeatty Рік тому +10

    How do you find builders that don't push you hard to get in and get out? I was finish carpenter for ten years before the housing crisis of 2008. Mostly worked on custom 4000+ sq ft homes. I can't stand the builders constant pushing to get it done...I was a one-man show. I now strictly work for homeowners accept for one remodeling company. I don't miss the new construction world...

    • @HolyTerminator
      @HolyTerminator Рік тому +3

      He is the best in his field.

    • @toolman101476
      @toolman101476 Рік тому +2

      Timothy I’ve always thought the same thing… I’ve never worked for a contractor that would allow me to spend that much time on a stairway…
      And they definitely wouldn’t want to pay for the level of install Spencer is giving this.

    • @xavytex
      @xavytex Рік тому

      @@HolyTerminator Says who ?
      He doesn’t even say that himself.
      That’s the “as seen on TV” effect in action right there.
      Most clients I had said I was the best. That’s BS. People have no way to compare. They just see what they see. They ignore what they don’t see exists.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +10

      They are hard to find. I'm blessed to have worked mostly for one great builder for several years.

    • @ChristIsLord229
      @ChristIsLord229 Рік тому +1

      @@InsiderCarpentry im a carpenter but i would love to be your apprentice.

  • @cndream1
    @cndream1 Рік тому +2

    How do you screw the riser to the tread at the top/last step ? No access right ?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +1

      In my case, I don't. Adhesive and nails due to not having access.

  • @anatoliyparkhomenko1110
    @anatoliyparkhomenko1110 Рік тому +1

    Is there any way to avoid the gap between the riser and the tread on the 1/4" reveal on the left? At 24:11 you show a close up of the stairs where you can see it in the bottom left, what do you do to fill that?

    • @henrypeisch5289
      @henrypeisch5289 Рік тому +1

      Maybe Pinterest designers don’t believe in cove moldings.

    • @henrypeisch5289
      @henrypeisch5289 Рік тому +1

      Nose and cove, nose n cove. They got the nose. Now have a little cove with your nose, Pinterest peeps. Not many profiles as classical as a nose n cove.

  • @rickteeden8656
    @rickteeden8656 Рік тому

    My stairs were built for carpet in 1993 with 8 inch risers and 9 inch treads. I had new flooring installed and the top and bottom landings and now I need to pad the stringers out for the new oak risers and treads. Any advice on how I should go about doing it so all the risers and treads come out evenly?

  • @jpkanter1
    @jpkanter1 Рік тому +1

    How do you get behind the top riser to screw in the tread if the sub floor is in the way?
    Great video as always!

    • @jamiecurrie2028
      @jamiecurrie2028 Рік тому

      Screw it to tread before setting it in

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +2

      That's one of the reasons that I prefer Sub-tread material not be installed.

  • @aaronburns1929
    @aaronburns1929 Рік тому +4

    What gauge nail are you using on the treads? Great video by the way!

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical Рік тому +1

    Great vid. Please get your tech level replaced as the vials are faded clear. Versus the standard stabila yellow. It is under warranty. Take care.

  • @fastlap2
    @fastlap2 7 місяців тому

    I’m not experienced like you but wouldn’t it be better to put the tread down first and then the riser? Can you explain this? Thank you you’re very talented.

  • @Hilary308
    @Hilary308 Рік тому

    Love your videos! I would love to see how you adjust the stair stringer when going from stairs that have been carpeted to hardwoods. I’m doing that now and there is a huge gap between the stringer and the stair skirting. Not sure if I should just leave it or try to add wood blocks.

    • @kevinoneill41
      @kevinoneill41 11 місяців тому

      ?

    • @kevinoneill41
      @kevinoneill41 11 місяців тому +1

      I think you just measure tread and risers from skirt to skirt. There should be enough hardwood that the overhang shouldn't cause too much of a problem unless you're talking 6" or more. Then you might want to put in extra stringers on the outsides and down your skirting. I call them wings but whatever hardwood doesn't bend easily.

  • @coconutsandmore2576
    @coconutsandmore2576 Рік тому

    Great video, I have a question, doesn't the brad nails ruin the look of the hardwood stairs? Never saw here anyone using nails , we more assemble everything usually from backside , hidden.

  • @patchguy6879
    @patchguy6879 Місяць тому

    Whats the reason to not put the riser on top of the tread?

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 5 місяців тому +1

    Do you always build your stairs according to the framers tread rise cuts or do you try to compensate for their mistakes 🤷‍♂️. Or have them redo their work?

  • @MissPamelaIvette
    @MissPamelaIvette 10 місяців тому

    In the process of doing my own stairs, and your videos have been a great help! However, my one worry now that I’ve reached the tread installation phase, are those finishing nails. I do not plan on staining the treads (finish only) & am worried that filler may not blend in well. Underside/backside of stairs is not accessible. What advice or product suggestions might you give me for this? Thank you so much for sharing your craft!

    • @GoogleAccount-ii9sj
      @GoogleAccount-ii9sj 7 місяців тому

      Try mixing wood glue and sawdust from the same material

  • @DesertRatFabrication
    @DesertRatFabrication 10 місяців тому +1

    It doesn’t look like I can use my skill saw with a track guide because I can’t get the bevel to go in the correct direction, before the track saw did everyone use compound miter with a slide

  • @mariocarreiro6946
    @mariocarreiro6946 Рік тому +1

    Are you beveling the tread where it meets the inside skirtboard along the wall? Great job as usual & explaining things. Spencer you should consider teaching classes online.

  • @StripLV
    @StripLV Рік тому

    Hi Spencer. How you do the nails theay are visible. Do you leave it like this or will you cover them anyway later? Or will there be a carpet added later on top of the wood? Thanks!

  • @DMUSA536
    @DMUSA536 5 місяців тому

    What size nail for the treads?

  • @alextherrien9203
    @alextherrien9203 5 місяців тому

    How much theeth have your blade in the tracksaw

  • @zephyr1408
    @zephyr1408 Рік тому +1

    Isn’t 10 tread the min code everywhere? Or you counting the riser also creeping up on 10”? I am confused 9 “ seems to narrow?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +1

      In my area it is not code, but in my opinion 10" should be code everywhere.

    • @zephyr1408
      @zephyr1408 Рік тому

      @@InsiderCarpentry Thk u Spencer I am looking at some plans that has two sets of stairs for Treads & Risers and I like the 1/4” detail however I seen the extra work that was? Now I am afraid to show the GC the video???
      Ha!! LoL ! Thanks again for all your teaching for pros I am just really appreciative brother!

  • @danpiekarek1488
    @danpiekarek1488 Рік тому

    Bold of you to let the off cut drop.

  • @rays.5687
    @rays.5687 Рік тому

    Can you tell me what earband you are using? Anyone else know?

  • @kevinproefrock4857
    @kevinproefrock4857 Рік тому +1

    Curious why you don’t lay the risers on top of the treads instead of performing the notching operation? You might answer this question later in the video, I’ll delete if that’s the case.

    • @simonmonty7171
      @simonmonty7171 Рік тому

      Because the line between the riser and tread is much more visible if you do it that way

  • @brucemontgomery8136
    @brucemontgomery8136 Рік тому +2

    surprised that you only have 3 stringers at that width?

  • @EricPotratzM
    @EricPotratzM Рік тому

    Why don't you use your Milwaukee track saw for this work?

  • @charlesdieter425
    @charlesdieter425 Рік тому

    What is the purpose of pushing the tread to the riser vs tread first riser on top

    • @HolyTerminator
      @HolyTerminator Рік тому +1

      He fastens the riser to the tread from behind the riser.

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 5 місяців тому +1

    Spencer you need a good set of chisels

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  5 місяців тому

      I have a handful of sets of the stanley sweetheart chisels. They work well for me.

  • @randyproenza9461
    @randyproenza9461 Рік тому

    What kind of blade do you use on you hkc55?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому

      Oshlun if I want cheap, festool blades probably work best. The saw is under-powered so a thinner kerf is better.

  • @VooDooJueJue
    @VooDooJueJue Рік тому +1

    Why don't you install treads first and then risers on top of them?

    • @kevinoneill41
      @kevinoneill41 11 місяців тому +1

      Can't get as good a support unless you have an open back to the stair when screwing it in from the backside

  • @joeobrien196
    @joeobrien196 Рік тому +1

    2nd

  • @heathereslinger7492
    @heathereslinger7492 4 місяці тому

    Why did you nail these down where in other videos you just used glue only?

  • @hhanger1
    @hhanger1 Рік тому

    wouldn't having a MFT/3 be a bit more helpful than a trashcan for a work surface? 😁

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +1

      Sure would, but then I'd have to buy it, store it, transport it, and make extra steps getting it out and putting it away.

  • @mauricec6025
    @mauricec6025 Рік тому +1

    1st

  • @ProxyFinal
    @ProxyFinal 8 днів тому

    One of the things I hate is when workers apply the same method on every stairs they build. Not all stairs are the same.

  • @vanman3752
    @vanman3752 Рік тому

    Those painted skirts are soooooo ridiculous.

  • @CrapE_DM
    @CrapE_DM Рік тому

    What's the benefit of a riser gauge over a tape measure?
    Why not install the treads first and just have the risers rest on them instead of cutting the notch on the treads?
    What I want when watching these types of videos is not just a how, but a why.

    • @2chipped
      @2chipped Рік тому

      Because "rough" framing is behind it,angle is from 89.5°-90.5 °.
      When you template you don't need to know,and if you do not you have a gap.

    • @aarongreenlee7867
      @aarongreenlee7867 Рік тому

      Jacob, Spencer did a previous video where he talks more in depth about the Collins stair gauge and all of its benefits. He was installing treads and risers in an enclosed stairway in a house.

  • @shawnstone8924
    @shawnstone8924 Рік тому +2

    You see what is going on right? Your telling these guys things it took professionals like me years of experience to learn. These guys watch your videos, then they going out n selling jobs like they are in our levels. Some things are to be sold not told, and they only last a year cuz they really don't know what they're doing.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  Рік тому +7

      Or they could have the confidence to start younger at tackling more challenging jobs because they actually have someone to guide them. And then they could in turn become more skilled than us, do better work for their clients, and create better lives for their families.

    • @CrapE_DM
      @CrapE_DM Рік тому

      Personally, I just want to build my own for my own house.

    • @vidpromjm
      @vidpromjm Рік тому

      That's why they're called disruptive technologies. Times have changed, knowledge cant be protected and siloed like pre internet. I've often reflected on the value of Spencer's vids that in times gone by they'd be sold on DVD (or VHS lol) for thousand's of dollars. Now they're either free or the cost of a youtube subscription but it's UA-cam that's making the most, not the creator but I'm sure Spencer does OK and deservedly so.

    • @octomic
      @octomic 9 місяців тому

      I was never much on people obscurantes Spencer is direct opposite