Cleopatra and Ptolemies - The Greek Rulers of Egypt
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2021
- I was always wondering how the famous queen of Egypt really looked like, so I did my best to recreate her face as well as the faces of some other Ptolemy kings mixed with some historical facts about that Hellenistic kingdom.
Many thanks to my friend Elias for his song that you may find here: • Beowulf - A Hero Come...
It's weird that some people think Cleopatra was a black woman and some shows even have a black woman playing her. She was Greek, people.
People thought africa means land of black people or black continet well it is not
The word africa was given by the romans to berber and the berber during that time was white not black
Even real ethnic Egyptians weren’t black.
@@scarymonster5541 if you want to see the ancestors of north Africa, look at the amazingh people, they are mostly white passing.
@@newtonia-uo4889 well yes i know that
aFRICA IS natively black! This is a fact, yes rulers, invaders land looters eg romans and currently france, uk can place their rulers there but it was mainly black native.s
And now, in 2023 we have the Wakanda (black) Cleopatra netflix ''documentary''! The producer behind this monstrocity is of course, Jada Pinket Smith. Good job netflix, good job! Next you should consider making another ''documentary'' about a Chinese Napoleon.
And a complete lie - cultural appropriation attempt.
This is very well done. It humanizes these famous historical figures. Also, in your renderings, Cleopatra is indeed beautiful, she just isn't "baby faced" Elizabeth Taylor. She has strong cheekbones, and a large nose, to populations where people have such facial traits, she is a beauty. Well done!
Beware cleopatra vii seductive eyes . Octavian is my fictive brother . Beautiful on coins? she is Not. On busts not very pretty. The dead is more beautiful than the living they say. But I am wiser than Mark Anthony and Julius caesar when it comes to cleo, and women in general. I side with you on this point, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.
well....eeeps no, Elizabeth Taylor is better XDD
@@barbarablue2571 That's your opinion.
Venus de Milo, which was created by Greeks around 100 BC has a similar look, so the standards of beauty especially among southern Europeans in that period favored larger or more aquiline noses.
@@Crunkboy415 Yeah not small ones like in Medieval society.
I am Egyptian, it is in my DNA. I have northern African, Maltese and southern African as well, and I am so honored that you are using the authentic depictions. This is very important to be true to the Egyptians. The sculptures of the man Ptolemy show how stunningly handsome he was. You depicted him with such good looking facial features. He was a good looking man. You did a very authentically close and beautiful depiction of Cleopatra. Thank you for keeping the integrity of Cleopatra by using the facial features depicted in stone. You are a blessing to authenticity in the world. These are fabulous and authentic portrayals as best as you could, you did a great job.
Keep in mind the Ptolemies were not Egyptian. They were Macedonian. So unsure how you say it's an honour, as they don't look like you.
@@ptolemyglenn79 - How do you know what I look like? You are wrong about everything you say. I am proud to be part Egyptian. You sound jealous and mean. It is an honor to be part Egyptian. it is a great thing. Don't be so jealous. Go find out what you are and leave us Egyptians alone with our pride of ancestry.
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@@ptolemyglenn79 Keep in mind that you are not Ptolemy. You might be psychotic if you think you are Ptolemy. Here is some information about him. Ptolemy, Latin in full Claudius Ptolemaeus, (born c. 100 CE-died c. 170 CE), an Egyptian astronomer, mathematician, and geographer of Greek descent who flourished in Alexandria during the 2nd century CE. In several fields his writings represent the culminating achievement of Greco-Roman science, particularly his geocentric (Earth-centred) model of the universe now known as the Ptolemaic system.
Virtually nothing is known about Ptolemy’s life except what can be inferred from his writings. His first major astronomical work, the Almagest, was completed about 150 CE and contains reports of astronomical observations that Ptolemy had made over the preceding quarter of a century. The size and content of his subsequent literary production suggests that he lived until about 170 CE.
Stunning ! I can see any of these faces in Athens today .
because the software uses faces of people today to generate closest looking face. It's not really how she looked but close. Btw I've lived across the world and I've seen those faces everywhere starting from where I was born to where I live now.
And in Bucharest for that matter
@None ofyobizness Vasilisa Kleopatra was Serbian origin. Like all pharaoh. Vasijije Serbian male name.
Vasil-Russian. Russian's are Serbs. State established by Vikings also Serbs.
Serbs understan Russians very well. Ras is old par in Serbia.
Aleksandria in Egypt was build by Aleksandar Karanovic (makedonski-geographyc ) Serb origin also. Spartan army leader.
One more thing Roman empire was Serbian, all eperors Serbs.
@@insider2546 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣Are you serious???Stop humiliating serbs.They are decent and serious people.Stop writing nonsense.
@@insider2546 whatever you say, ha
Arsinoe is a real beauty. I love her statue portrait, but in your rendering, she is so modern. The last take of Cleopatra is like a switch in time. Possibly the best reconstruction of her.
My US friends say Cleopatra should look like Kate Beckinsale, Erlizabeth Taylor... Or Michelle Obama, Nicky Minaj... And always get very angry.
They could've done more effort with her hair.
Yes! Unlike Cleopatra, it’s been documented that Arsinoe was considered a stunning beauty during her lifetime.
@@sunrisings292
Those that ruled in North Africa at the time were Europeans.
@@billie6528
Cleopatra was beautiful hence why she was desired by several men.
They look relatively good considering the practiced sibling marriage
Do you think inmediate incest create mutants? Silbings having children its not really different from mating with someone from your own ethnicy. Incest really starts affecting a lineage if practiced more than twice in a row, and most of that bad effects must not be physically visible, most likely mental illness or organ problems.
@@bryangracida they practiced it for generations upon generations the entire line is inbred
@@ezzaddin5588ever heard about pharaoh Akhenaten , not of ptolemaic blood yet a weirdo . Incest gave him a female body and an alien long head. Cleo, selena and arsonie are lucky.
@@ezzaddin5588 visibly deformed children would have been disposed of. Many societies practiced royal incest including Hawaiians, Incas, Aztecs, as a way of keeping bloodlines pure. They simply discarded any children that were deformed or mentally defective.
@@patrickjohnson1808 He was also of European decent though. Very strange looking fellow, indeed.
My only complaint is giving them modern hair styles. It's all digital, they could do the historic look.
I believe the intent is to make the reconstructions accessible to modern eyes--- surprisingly accessible. Most ancient hairstyles are grossly artificial and contrived--- distracting from the real person. Ancient coifs were also often merely wigs. In any event, even ancient women had to let their hair down sometimes. These reconstructions are therefore intimate portraits.
Yeah, they should add the historic apparel at that time & don’t forget the headdress too
And the make up eyes
They should maintain the original hairstyles
@@poonamkhaitan4192 mmm yes, to get like a real visual of what it really looked like.
The real Cleopatra is much more beautiful than every single media portrayal of her from 1917 to the present
ΤΗΑΝΚ ΥΟU for this. In my years of American college, i had countless arguments with Afroamerican classmates insisting that Cleopatra was their black African Queen and their hero !
They didn't know history at all. Probably they didn't hear about Alexander the Great and his conquests 🤦🏻♀️
@@oriraykai3610 Cleopatra was of Greek origin and was a ruler in a Hellenistic state! But what's more - before Alexander the Great conquered Egypt, the original people of Egypt, including the rulers weren't black either (they weren't white too, in modern day Egypt their descendants are Copts). I don't think it's ok to say stupid things like "black Cleopatra" and get away with it... It is just a mixture of ignorance with very bad, malevolent political agenda.
@@marta9127 as a person studying the history of the world, i find almost unbearable when people claim the cleopatra was black, like no go learn about alexander and his conquest
Cleopatra: "I am hot and the Romans know that..."
Arsenoe: "Hold my cup of wine..."
Arsenoe best waifu
Wow! Like your phrase about Cleo, " I'm HOT and the Romans know that".
Imagine if they did Athena!.......hold my demi god.......lol
They had beer too
@@sutekh-9864 yes but it tasted very different and mead made from honey tasted like white wine....YUCK! Unless you're expecting wine....then maybe yummy lol.😉
Cleopatra eyes show intelligence and i liked very much the last image you rendered. You are a true artist!
ah ah , eyes, the only one element that we have no trace
It is just a supposition how they looked in the past
Cleopatra reminds me of Jane Seymour the actress.
I agree! Cleopatra looks like she could hold her own in Roman power-politics.
As a greek woman who has grown up in Alexandria Cleopatra has always been an inspiration
So you're a descendant of Ancient Greeks colons. Cleopatra was a Macedonian.
Now Cleopatra is called macedonian and someone dares admire this betrayal of history everybody knows she was a descendant of the greek Ptolemeos it is useless to comment anything anymore as obviously we face people who are unaware of historical knowledge
@@zazazazizizi6276 ancient macedonians were greeks not slavs
@@zazazazizizi6276 Macedonians were Greeks
@@zazazazizizi6276 But since she was greek(!) macedonian and not slavic macedonian, calling her greek is technically correct.
Cleopatra was stunningly beautiful, brave and a genius.
She was timeless.
A genius? I would not go that far
@@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER Yes, exactly how was she a genius? She was certainly an intelligent, educated woman. She survived a civil war and managed to keep her throne among Roman power politics for 20+ years--so she was a survivor. But the Egypt she ruled over was effectively a Roman client state.
I wish I could learn how to do this to bring my great grandparents old photos to life!
Go to myhertiage and you can upload and have photos move like this
Here is how to do: ua-cam.com/video/52HKhv-UYJA/v-deo.html 😉
Εξαιρετική δουλειά ! Νιώθω πολύ περήφανη που ένας Έλληνας κατάφερε να ζωντανέψει το παρελθόν με τρόπο αρκετά πιο αξιόπιστο από άλλα κανάλια του είδους ! Σας ευχαριστώ !
Me too,am so proud of him ,his work is really amazing. Excellent job! Bravo!👏👏
Cleopatra looks strong and determined with humor in her eyes.
I met her real reincarnation in France during the 90s, she was a gypsy woman named Michelle. Her personality was exactly than your description here.
@@FromAgen
What
@@FromAgen bruh
@@KayPeaz97 This is a long story.
@NUMBER ELEVEN Historians say she was white of Macedonian decent. Her grandfather was Alexander the Great. She had a Greek heritage with the last name of Ptolemy.
You truly are the best. The second version of Cleopatra looks like the more plausible also considering her portraits on coins. Inspite the nose she looks pretty and especially with the modern hair style she seems to be an interesting woman. You truly are able to bring them back to life! I enjoy your reconstructions very much!!!
Women can have larger noses and still look beautiful. I think we in the modern world oversize such noses to the point of ugly which is more about shape than actual size.
love your work but man keep the texts longer! No way we can read fast enough...
Noted!
Pst...Just hit the "pause" icon. Back at ya.
@@gathasofpersia6432 of course we can hit the pause button but come on i'm sure when you make a video you don't say to yourself : "ok at this point the viewers will hit pause and read..."
@@GM-db4bv Precisely 👍👍👍
Press "pause"
Panagiotis, you have truly made the dead alive again . Genius, talent & lots of hard work puts you in a class of your own in this field. Ευχαριστώ. Thank you.
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omg i've been searching the closest Cleopatra's face to the real one, trying to imagine, and i found this.. you made it!!!! Thankyou so much!! Can't thank you enough!
These reconstructions gives the characters you are reading about in history, the enfleshment I need for an orthodox imagination about how they looked. Now that I know what they look like, I can connect with them, not only literarily but in a way virtually through the medium of the pages of history.Thank you
all are anglicized faces
@@MalteseKat I disagree because the reconstructions tend to be closer to the ancient busts and indeed gives them life . Some imagination on the part of the artist is still needed however, eg for the color of the eyes. I think the artist is also following facial descriptions from the primary literature as well, and he has combined them with sculptural busts. Hence in my visual opinion they do look more Greco- Roman and of the era to which they belong; than looking anglican. Also, from the literary sources and the numerous busts and frescos we do have from that material culture ,we sure do have a very good idea of how the ancient greeks and Romans looked.The artist is doing is best and at most times he is uncannily on point.
Arsinoi was beuatifull
@@MalteseKat Yes, well, the ancients seemed to be fairer and closer in appearance to people of Northern Europe than modern Mediterranean people. Remember, the modern populations are the result of those ancients plus a lot of invasions from other peoples. Most recently, the Ottoman Empire!
@@jonathancummings6400 Not really. The Ottoman invasion genes thing is highly exaggerated.
I love this channel! Looking into the faces of historical figures is fascinating 😊
I love your work! It’s so wonderful and completely realistic. It’s so cool to see the stairs ‘brought to life’. Thanks for all your hard work! Cheers
Berlin Cleopatra looks exactly like my sister!😱(we are Greek)
Cleopatra wasn’t actually Egyptian, but from Greek descendant !!! So that’s pretty cool 😁
@@Disijdc yeap I know ! 😁
That's horrible to say given Cleopatra had a face like a horse
@@kikichalkia not if they human resemble a horse and I'm sure that is not the case with your sister
Cleopatra was epgyptian
Thank you so much, this is incredibly brilliant work.
Its about time someone did a REAL depiction of Cleopatra and the Ptolemies....Bravo good job.
Arsenoe was so beautiful and had an enigmatic eyes.
As a history lover, I'm a huge fan of these. Thank you so much for making these people so much more real and close to us.
Man, I love your work! You are a great artist and an historian! *Thank You* for your vision and for sharing it...⭐
They all look stunning!
People would live shorter.
Brilliant!! These renders literally put flesh on the image of these historic figures humanising them perfectly.. Great work!
I really love your background music!
Really impressive!! Well done!! More like these please!
You're spot on with the men's faces from sculpture to realism, but off slightly with the women's in an attempt to beautify them. Don't beautify just do realism.
They put modern make-up on the women.
The attempt wasn't to beautify but hide their true complexions of said region in "ancient" times...
@@cherylscott6040 I suggest don't. Keep it real.
MSN The ladies are gorgeous and if anything the "makeup" is very natural whereas Egyptian royalty wore very elaborate eye makeup
@@cherylscott6040 Why does every video about Ancient Egypt have tonnes of you people in the comments? Stop stealing North African history, and get your own.
I love your work...you make them alive for me with your artistry!😊😊
For speed readers only.
I tried it at 1/2 and it was still too fast. 1/4 was good.
Indeed and it s too bad really
It's actually nice to not have to FF through slow ass text that I could read 15 times before it changed.
Indeed a picture says a thousand words
No kidding...
I don’t understand why some channels are depicting her and others as black when they were not. This insanity needs to stop. Keep your inferiority complex to yourself historians or whomever is responsible for altering history.
you did a fantastic job and created a wonderful work of art.
I will subscribe to your channel, just because you gave me an AWW moment!
True artistry!🙏❤
I like seeing both the historical and modern hairstyles because it let's us see them as our peers, not just cold sculptures.
I love these. Great work. Please keep them coming!
I really enjoy looking at your work, there is no comparison around.👍
@Panagiotis Constantinou, these are some of the best reconstructions to date of the last ruler of Egypt. Excellent work!
Your work makes them closer to us. It is nice.
amazing work as usual !
Truly remarkable... loved see more and thank for sharing your talents.
Amazing, I like this Channel very much! Greetings to all from Freiburg and good time, Brigitte
Very interesting and worthwhile video.
This looks like the best of the historical figures channels. Have to check out more.
When Cleopatra smiled, I smiled.
@Ed Ducate Are you on something? What you said made no sense whatsoever.
@Ed Ducate The records we have are Roman written. The Romans hated Cleo, they love Arsenoe. Arsenoe was a real live warrior princess.
@Ed Ducate She was probably not conventionally Beautiful. Though she had charisma and sex appeal. Also Greek women today really don't look like her. She also had Hellenize Syrian in her as well.
I love history so this is a great treat for me. Went to a Roman exhibit years ago and was mesmerized by the marble busts of these individuals.
I just wish you'd give them the hairstyles make up and clothes of the time
But they're still here at this time,?
Fantastic I love all this "face magic" you do marble faces embedded with life..10/10
I am hooked on your site!! Simply genius!!
La bellezza della realizzazione dei volti di personaggi storici in video dove tutto diventa reale dal passato fino al nostro presente. Grazie per questo 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
I'd love to see the same treatment given to Cleopatra Selene II based on the elephant portrait.
dislikes from people who cant deal with the fact that Cleo was NOT black wahaman....
WE WAZ THE KAING AND KWEEN OVDA ANCIANTE WORLD
@@MrViki60 Not for your spelling. 😬
@@itsallgood4093 I'm white and racist, and that was a funni joke mocking basketball-americans.
@@MrViki60 and mine was a joke mocking you. 😂
Wow wow Wow... You are brilliant...You really bring them back to life.. Please keep doing what you do its absolutely amazing..
SIMPLY AMAZING WORK!
Well done! Truly amazing details! ❤
Have you ever thought about utilizing death masks, mummies or shrunken heads as a challenge for your collection?
So cool, I love these!
Fantastic video
Great Work. Very Well Done!
Fascinating. Cleopatra looks very pretty here too. I can definitely see a strong presence of mesocephal and dolichocephal types in these populations.
These were fabulous, but we need more time to read the material please. I love the music so, so much...I want to listen to it in my car!
Very good work and video!
You did a lovely portrayal, thank you 🙏💕!
I love technology! Excellent work!!
Your work is always amazing. Could you slow down your titles or list them? Also I love the music you are choosing. Who is singing this version of the song? It would be wonderful if you would list your music also. Thank you!
I agree the depictions are really great & very interesting.
Historical figures we all learnt about are now humanised in your great work.
But I also agree please slow down the titles.
They go by too fast & you have to keep going back when reading them.
Thank you
Very cool channel and beautiful song, Elias :).
Συγχαρητήρια για την εξαιρετική απεικόνιση. Δίνει μια ζωντανή διάσταση στα ιστορικά πρόσωπα και χωρίς κανείς να το θέλει συγκρίνει την προσωπική τους ιστορία με την φυσιογνωμία τους.
Ευχαριστώ
Now I get why Marcus Antonius was simping so hard
Εξαιρετική δουλειά, φίλε, τους περίμενα τους Αλεξανδρινούς Βασιλείς!
Best rendition of Cleopatra I have ever seen and I have seen so many. The 2 statues look like sisters ... her real half sister also looks related but different. GREAT JOB! omg.
I love the music you chose, very appropriate
I really loved Arsinoe III. looked stunningly beautiful and gorgeous.
Even Julius Ceasar and Marcus Antonius had a crush on Cleopatra - I realize why 😍
@NUMBER ELEVEN in between - greek
Greek is not INBETWEEN 🤦♀️🤦♀️😅lol!! It's Caucasian!!
@NUMBER ELEVEN Cleopatra was from Ptolemy dynasty. She was Greek which means she was white.
@NUMBER ELEVEN That's goood question mate.
@NUMBER ELEVEN it comes from some crazy nationalist theories, black nationalism this time.
Love your videos! love the song too
Omg just subscribed really talented - to see what they looked like unbelievable work ❤🍁👍
Thanks so much 😊
I spend hours watching these amazing CGI’s They are absolutely brilliant !
Thx mate 😊
I always wonder at these portraits. Some, especially Republic era Roman portraiture seems so raw and not made to flatter the subject while the greeks seem to add a bit more subtext to the persons portrait. Imagining them in human form is difficult for me so I appreciate the vids
Beautiful music Elias...I’ve always loved that name
Πολύ όμορφη δουλειά!Πολλά συγχαρητήρια!!!!Μόνο που στα σχόλια υπάρχουν κάποιοι που δεν γνωρίζουν καλά ιστορία και γράφουν ότι θέλουν....
Ευχαριστώ
I am very moved to see Ptolemy, the result is really amazing
Her name is even Greek...Why are people shocked that Cleopatra was Greek? I don't understand this.
Americans think Africa = black
Her name is Macedonian,she was Macedonian
@@kostadinpanov4596 which is even more european then greece
because people watched netflix and thought she was dark.. but people dont know history anymore. She was a part of the Ptolemaic dynasty and that name alone will make mouth breathers tune out. I talked to some fans of the docu in person and they had no idea Greece even ruled Egypt.
@@deejay7339 Macedonia ruled Egypt,not Greece,replacing the name Macedonia with the name Greece is simply incorrect.
Good work and always fascinating to watch. I would prefer no music at all and more time laps provided to read the editing. Thank you.
Amazing work and great song
Sensacionel! Magnifique!
Pan............... spot on. Even my kids are looking at your vids. Giving "life" to statues is a most interesting thing.
thanks
This is amazing 😮
Amazing ! Suggestion : THE FAYUM PORTRAITS would be interested !
The best portrayal of what Cleopatra must have looked like... Similar to what I had imagined... She was mesmerising because of her intelligence, heart, courage and beauty. A powerful combination not found in many.
Clearly Netflix didn't get the memo
This would be cool if you could do another version, this time using Cleo and her half sisters Arsinoe IV and Berenice IV.. if there are usable references for the sisters that is.
Love your work bringing the faces of the past back to life bro.
Interesting video! the bust to the physical representation in your video is well done.I have seen other videos of a darker skinned Cleopatra. But that has extended to many ancient famous people, one being the Carthaginian military General and tactician Hannibal. Many have him as fair complected with straight hair. Others portray him as looking dark skinned with kinky hair and beard. Good video!
Good point. Too many people with agendas insist that many ancient figures were much darker when the facts dispute it. The Ptolemies, when they weren't inbreeding, brought in fresh blood from Greece. Hannibal was from Phoenician stock not sub-Saharan.
Thank you for your great work of bringing to life those whose appearances have only existed in the creative centers of our minds. I have always had the feeling that Alexander the Great, whom they say was poisoned, was in fact eliminated by Ptolemy, his general, because when we see how Ptolemy took over and became the king, it looks like it was planned. I have heard that the story of Alexander’s exploits was only put to paper some 400 years after he lived, so what really happened we will never know. It’s just fantastic to see the sculptures-I am a sculptor---brought to life. Each sculptor of course sculpted his or her subjects with his or her own interpretation, so we can only have a global idea of what they must have looked like. But again, thanks to your work, we get a glimpse into our past and what a surprise to see that the greatest of all our past heroes were mostly in their prime, in their twenties and thirties.
Ptolemy was only king in Egypt. Alexander’s empire was split up between his generals.
@D.N. TE'KANNON
Alexander generals were extremely loyal to him as they followed him far beyond reasonable levels.
Only one of his cadre was disloyal to him.
@@bighands69 Gggggggggreat to hear from you! Will we ever know anything about Alexander the Great? I'm told the first biography of him was 300 years after his death. All we know is that in his time a man in his early thirties was at the height of his powers. I've always thought 34 was my best year because absolutely everything I wanted to do all the doors were open for me. What a life Alexander had to be tutored by Aristotle and then to go on winning battle after battle.
Well done!
"Se não fosse o nariz Cleópatra teria mudado a face do mundo"
Pascal
Cleópatra era muito inteligente, perspicaz, ambiciosa.
Adorei o seu trabalho! Muito obrigada.
Amazing 🤜🏻🤛🏼
Brilliant work here Constantinou these people were attractive and held....power.