Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2: Re-engineered From the Inside Out | E3 Coliseum 2019 Panel
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Join the Xbox hardware design team as they discuss design challenges and the solutions they developed when re-engineering the Elite Series 2.
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26:45 If you're an owner of the Elite Series 1, this is the part you came for.
Shadow IV 7:45 is you ask me.
This is exactly what I was hoping it would be. Great interview! Can't wait to get one!
Can't wait to get ahold of this.
It still is beyond me why people would actively want an internal rechargeable battery vs being able to plop out a battery kit or just drop in some duracells. However, I am very happy that the grips and bumpers will be less of an issue in series 2... It might even be a good time to get some more of the older ones.
Have to live without it why if your phone have a removable battery lol something in life you just have to get over it or it drives you insane like Markiplier trying to get over it lol
stronger bumpers is a good improvement
Three things I needed clearing up and this panel did it:
1. Docking station doesn't have a battery of its own
2. Rubber grips are better
3. Paddle buttons aren't so sensitive
Day 1 purchase for me.
My poor wallet lol my games list for this year is gears 5 and Borderlands 3 now GTA 6 or cyber punk both could be great but which one is gona be better a future reality or back to new York in GTA 6
Yea the paddles were too sensitive lol
Day 1 buy for me. Gears, destiny shadowkeep, borderlands 3 and eventually Halo infinite. Going to be a dream with this beastly controller
I want be gears 5 Borderlands 3 lol two great game's and this controller add up the total cost for Borderlands ultimate edition and Ile play gears 5 on game pass yea not cheap
Forza and call of duty
Fortnite 😍😍
Yeah, until the left bumper snaps like all of my Elite Series 1 controllers. Hoping the series 2 is much more sturdy.
It’s been a year now so how have you been with these games ?
Funny how they dodged all of the known issues with the series 1.
They could’ve talked about it, admitted it and said: yes, we got feedback and we improved it.
But like always they tried to hide it and were quiet about it...
This makes them pretty untrustworthy and doesn’t make me open my pocket for 180 bucks.
Really sad to see.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, I would love to buy one, but I don’t want to spend 180$ and then it breaks after 6 months or so.
I have 2 normal controller lying around here cause they suffer from stick drift.😅
So I would love to try out something different.
I’m waiting for the long term tests and a little price drop.
Clearly someone who reads between the lines and not the fine print lol the already did state the issues there will bound to be issues with the series 2 maybe the battery dies and that will be a issue and they go back and have replaceable lition battery's instead of built in will I but it yes because I am stupid that Ile probably buy call of duty mw censored reboot lol I can already see a big issue the battery is my problem
Marc28031984 they discussed the bumpers @ 7:45.
I remember because I asked the question when they were live.
The grips are being spoken about atthe end of the interview.
Probably because you gamets are twats for asking is this fix is that fixed dude if I already knew my first controller is screwed you can bet the next controller will be better and fixed from all the issues they took all the issues on the list and said we had enough to do a total rebuild of the controller from the grounds up so quit yapping I bought mine I can't wait to get it home safely
jonathan oxlade hows it holding up
I needed that Last question on that Durability on the grips! Both of my grips have loosen up and I to reapply adhesive to one of them already. I'm all in.
At least they addressed it tho same with making the bumbers stronger but why use the 4 buttons anymore I would like to see Microsoft get rid of those buttons and go with more hair trigger buttons so there is less delay
@@jonathanoxlade4252 buttons were on the face ?
@@jonwall22 I meant since they got the paddle hair buttons why do we need the AXYB buttons anymore use the paddles would be the best idea
@@jonathanoxlade4252 you can map the paddles for other buttons than the AXYB buttons like the diagonal pad buttons. i use a paddle for up on the diagonal pad for APEX makes it easy to use meds. so you would need 8 paddles
Day 1 buy for sure. My elite series 1 is still in great condition, no wear and tear but I still gotta get this new one 😍😍
How? Mine broke in like 1 month on light playtime
My biggest concern is the internal battery I hate them I don't care how long they last. Just let me play with my controller until the battery gets low. swap out the batteries in 30 seconds and keep on playing. With internal battery how do you swap it out when the charge no longer lasts. I know there will be a time where I will forget to charge it too then be forced to play with the controller plugged in which I also hate doing. Just like a cell phone I'm sure the battery won't hold a charge well after a couple of years. Then what buy a new controller? It's my only concern. Everything else looks fantastic and amazing. But this one change may keep me from buying it.
you buy the series 3 when it comes out a year after the new xbox has come out. Series 3 will probably come out in 2021.
I feel exactly the same way u do about the new elite having a internal battery. Right now I'm using the Astro C40 controller for ps4, it's pretty nice and all but just hate the fact that it has a built in battery and can't change it. Having to charge it with a cable totally sucks ass, it takes forever and even worse doesn't let me know when the battery is about to die, so I'll probably go back to playing on xbox again and get the first elite since that one u can swap out the battery's
I had three Elite Controllers, all three controllers had issues with the bumpers. I had to replace them with parts from Amazon... I sincerely hope this will be addressed.
R0b0saurus Rex they answered this at 7:45.
I don't give a flying damn about features if the damn thing falls apart like so many of the first series did. I've had several exchanges through warranty and all - left bumper breaks from one side and it was the same side. Absolutely pathetic construction quality for a product costing 3 times as much as the base product. I've never had an issue with the basic XB1 controller's bumper. Ever.
Michael Keith look at 7:45. I asked that question when they were live.
I had my xbone elite left bumper break 6 times but could replace every time bc of shop warranty.
When they answered my question regarding this error I immediately pre ordered v2.
The rubber grips was the most important question and they should have brought that up themselves!! LOL
There is an LED charging indicator on the front of the controller, just above the Profile button.
Flashing white LED = charging
Solid white LED = fully charged
Amber LED = low battery
Carlos Bello When the battery dies this controller will be useless.
Doesnt it come with like a 6ft wire lol
My 2 biggest issues with the first Elite was pealing grips and the durability of the shoulder bumpers. Both of my and my sons Elite ended up with pealing grips and both of us had bumper button breaking. I am on my 3rd, he is on his 2nd and his second has started to have the grip pealing. That's 5 controller bought in 4yrs which isn't 'good' enough - so I hope the issues have been fixed!!!
Early models had peeling issues and bumpers breaking newer models after that fixed peeling but not the bumpers
It's the last question 26:46
@ jonathan oxlade You're 100% incorrect about that. I've had to replace 4 of them because of peeling grips. My 5th Elite was just delivered on Friday so the 4th will be going back to Costco tomorrow for a refund. It was purchased last October and has a manufacture date of May 2018.
Ok look at this then I know a chap who had his and it's the first controller he bought still has the grips on I think maybe because you play 247 with it and the heat peels it back while another chap had his used it all day everyday playing destiny lost all its grips I had mine lose its grips only because I didn't work now I work now I only get two days of gaming when I get back might get 1 hour of gaming so life choices can effect your controller in normal use it should not lose its grips but in heavy use what did you expect yes better compounds could help but I still think if your gaming hard then yea
My first Elite has severe left stick drift, broken left bumper and grip pealing. My 2nd Elite's bumper gave out about 6-7 months after purchasing. Just sad.
but do the grips stick good enough
It's the last question 26:46
how difficult is it to change the battery in this thing? Because ultimately it will die
Looks like a sealed up unit this time around lol thats one way to keep these from being modded but that's why we need a controller lab for Xbox one elite series 2 controllers to happen
Grips is a number 1 question.....
The only thing I needed to sell me is the tension increase. I dont care what "mathematical" facts say. My aim is all over the place with the crap x1 joysticks but the 360 was perfect! Everything else is icing on the cake. I hope the bumpers are a complete redesign I've replaced 2 for my elite because the plastic underneath snaps in the middlem
Me too LoL I am used to higher tension, It is impossible to find the center on low tension sticks.
The 360 allowed you to find the center easily and know how far away you were from the center in the X-Y axis.
Same hate the original tension for teh Xbox one controller glad to chang back to the classic concave 360 style of thumbsticks
I really would like to see microsoft put so much efforts on an wireless headset like they do over controllers.
rig 800lx.
Love my elite s1 will be getting s2 for sure stick tension is the selling point for me can wait usually to get that in a controller cost near double in some cases
Yeah the tension setting is super important and people are sleeping on that fact.
Wow all the hate from the casuals that want an interactive movie with quick time events...Gears 5 will be amazing with this, I'm getting this day one. Really like the improvements from the first one. Nice to see the best controller out there [in my opinion] has a premium version for competitive gamers.
you can't play console and complain that people are casual. you are casual.
@@goofy-OD oh so gaming on PC is all takes to be a hardcore/competitive? [I don't know why you would think that] Damn you must be a pro, levels above me. And I'm not complaining, it's making an observation. Did you ever think that some people just don't like to game on PC?
@@MugiwaraAlex pc players can be casual too, slow your console brain down and understand what im saying. yes those people are C A S U A L S.
@@goofy-OD You're right about that...even though you're first comment to look down on console gamers to possible justify your investment showed you are the one that needs to slow down. Being casual is determined by how much time you invest in a game and not the hardware you play it on. But see I used to be a computer tech and I got tired of the people with that toxic and elitist mentality a lot of PC gamers have and now I'm just tired of computers...I don't know you but admitting PC gamers can be casuals at least shows you enjoy the games for what they are...unless of course you considered prebuilt owners casuals.
@@MugiwaraAlex have played on pc from cs 1.5/diablo 2 days and now play console. there's nothing wrong with being casual, but someone that is "hardcore" wouldn't have their skill/experience limited by playing on an inferior machine.
are the inside of the bumpers still cheap plastic that breaks?
Hope They will make a special edition Scarlett console with this controller inside or have a good bundle deal when you purchase your Scarlett . The first Xbox Elite had a bad rep of falling apart
mine included but Microsoft support took care of me and I was really surprised. Keep up the good work and you can count me in for Scarlett and this controller ..
I wish they would take care of me. Less than 4 months old and my series 1 developed left stick drift and toys r us went out of business, and no stores near me. Absolutely frustrating and waist of hard, I mean very hard earned money. Now just a brand new paper weight with paddles! 😔👎
I think that if you still have your receipt and give Microsoft support either a call or open a ticket on the web you will surprised I think they would send you a replacement for only a 4 months old controller. That's what I did. and I received a brand new one (that is working) I had trouble with both analog sticks not doing complete circles. Now the new one is Ok for now, hope I won't get any issues like the first one I purchased. Good Luck
One question. So they say there is 3 profiles u can have on the controller. And for example just say i is for gears one for forza and one for halo. Lets say for gears i want my thumbsticks tension to be loose and Forza i want max halo in between. Do i have to change it all the time? Or would i select the profile and it will automatically move it for me
@@mlopez7330 sams as hair triggers huh
Still will be a failure, I will never buy another Premium product from Microsoft as they say Premium is just a PR term for GARBAGE I have had over 20 elite controllers now all failed all faulty. Just goes to show what they mean be Premium.... I bet 100000000 dollars that they will fail just like the one. I also Noticed what do you call a life of a controller not even a month of use ??????? Appalling I have noted and made a case file of this appalling failure to the ACCC in Australia. Ps I think that case charger will be a fire hazard like the old Samsung notes. I would never charge something in a case too much heat. MORONS
Premium whisky give it to a guy who drinks it in 1 hit uhhh dude that whisky shot alone costs £100 a shot lol premium nothing is premium premium in price and a a controller with more features then yes would be great if they just call Xbox new consoles scarlet Elite instead
if only it had removable batteries so i could use the scuf control paddle system with it
YAY MORE CONTROLLERS!!!
Left bumper
Stoked! Can't wait to see the modders and style's like colored thumbsticks
My issue is I need more elite controllers with more colours lol different coloured rubber grips options tondo custom controllers aswel
Need a controller lab for elite controllers that would be awesome more colours instead of black rubber grip give us new colour rubber
The work the Xbox team has been doing with controllers and freesync to improve playability of games is great. I'm glad the tightness of the 360 sticks are coming back. Hopefully scarlets controllers will be more like the 360 but with better dpad.
Already Pre-ordered it
will it come in different colors in the future ??
Low stick tension is objectively better, lol, remember when people were crying over the low stick tension on the DS3
Special green Xbox edition 👌 please
Anybody else still wanna know if they used a badass glue or something for the grips so they dont fail
Wash your hands before playing
Or why not just make plastic grips atleast it will stick instead of rubber which wears down
Thanks Xbox !
I always wanted to buy the first elite, but seems it was plagued with quality provlems, many people complaining on the internet that it was just garbage.
you are correct friend. This coming from me who had to buy 2 of them. 1st one was working fine until one day it fell to my floor while getting up from sofa & it caused an issue where I couldn't use the B button anymore. Bought a 2nd one & after couple months started acting strange & not functioning properly so I gave up on it. But defenitely prefered it over tradional controllers.
will give this Elite 2.0 a shot. like & impressed by the upgrades.
@@H0DLTHED0R I wanted to hear that they improved the quality of the components...
But i guess they would never disclose this.
@@MarceloTezza The Elite is an amazing controller. Going back to the standard Xbox controller feels slow and clunky BUT the Elite has some big problems. My grips and bumpers were fine but the Elite also has a huge stick drift issue and the 90 warranty is a joke on a bit of kit this expensive.
You are correct. I have two in pieces in a drawer. Bumpers broke, grips peeled off. Crappy warranty V1 was a waste of money - twice.
So we wont have to hunt down parts to repair them this time? I love my elite, but its made with toothpicks and duct tape
ye mine got 2 broken sticks with maaad drift (unplayable) and 2 broken bumpers. Didnt even drop it.
Haha
I still can't get past my 4 month old xbox elite controller stick drift. No brick and mortor Microsoft store near me and now have 150 $ paper weight! 👎
JOSEPH BURBO you can definitely call microsoft customer care and get a new one...i’ve had 2 replaced and received brand new ones
You can buy and Xbox one S bundle for the price of this controller and it won't drift or fall apart on you like the Elite 1. Ive had two Elite controllers and both had thumbsticks drifting badly and one actully broke and just flopped around all within a year. They look good and feel good but inside is made from the cheapest plastics known to man. The Elite 2 will just be the same. They will not build it from any better materials. It will be just a re-skinned controller with a few extras. Don't waste your money people, extra paddles won't make you better.
STICK DRIFT?? Any1 wanna address that problem. You dont need a degree in science to re apply adhesive to sum grips.
Same I need info
Yup. Severe stick drift on the left stick for me on my first Elite. Left bumpers have snapped on both of my Elite's.
4 regular controllers or 1 Super Elite? Hmm... I don’t know. I do find it funny the biggest selling point is probably, “You can turn it into a 360 controller.”
Dave wasn't there man!!!
What's going to happen when you're a rechargeable battery fails after the warranty after a a year have $180 paperweight I love the way U controllers I wish they didn't have a built-in battery on the new one
PSA the elite series 1 thumbsticks are not compatible with series 2
Awfull
No scuff paddle adapter is gonna be a big problem for me
clokedbigman im sure scuf will design some
Low tension ruins the series X controller. I want dualshock 4 tension.
Its cool 360 is back
Thank you very much!
Now,start make games...
Mouse and keyboard FTW.
Why are you even here lmaooo
For $179 that's very expensive for a controller. That better come with one free battery replacement.
It will be the best controller on the market, no other controller has as much done to it. Like compare it to a normal controller ($50-80) and it has like 10 things better than a normal one, so its kinda worth it
Needs a lifetime warranty on it so we get a new one when it breaks since the rubber now covers the part where you take it apart looks like a apple product oh well I pay up for it better not have isues like the first one did
No way I'm dishing out $200 for a controller....maybe if I was a pro gamer, but then my sponsors would probably give me one... or five....😂😂😂
@@TexumBǰornWrong you obviously don't play much at all
@@yeahmate6729 Ive played just about every day with a standard controller for about the last 10 years on both xbox/one x and ps3/4 and have had absolutely no issues....nice try tho....go drop the $200, I'm not stopping you...
Thats what happend when these people listen to feedback ...nice one to bad there are too many games this fall next year ill buy one for sure
Microsoft! You sly devil of a company. I like what I'm seeing with it. Looks amazing! Your products generally do look the part. But will this controller have the same problems as Series 1 and your official standard controller do? You know...stick drift (for me anyway) is a major problem to have with a "premium" piece of hardware. Especially if take care of your tech. Dropping two-hundy on a controller just seems risky to me, knowing what I do about your controllers.
Iv had 13 of these build from the ground up my ass
I use a short and a tall .. Tall for my aim and short my run on cod
I wonder if it will be compatible with the next gen controllers we should see next year and how they will compare.
it is compatible with scarlett 100% sure.
Ole ole muy guapo xbox se lo curra. Yo tengo la xbox x y ps4 para mi la xbox. Es mejor en cálida.que ps4 la tengo por mis amigos si la pruebas te digo que te quedas con xbox.
I smell so much b. S
I hope these suffer with the same stick drift. Love repairing Xbox One Elite controllers.
Dammit you cursed it! Can’t seem to get one that doesn’t have stick drift within a few months. 😂
Thanks much for this PC controller. Do a SEGA already, we don't need another piece of hardware from you.
Lmao what!?
Yeah, don't give us detailed gameplay of a game coming out in just 3 months, but by all means we need all the details of a new controller that most people won't buy.
Big hit? Big rip off!
We didn't ask for this
Give us games
Real exclusives
Or just quit making consoles
Sony fanboy go home
@@TheTonkGuy I'm a gamer, I prefer all systems, but irrelevant ones. You seem to be a corporate shill.
Lol Topkek don’t worry man, it’s coming.....all you need to do is to get ready for next-gen
Lol Topkek That’s the pot calling the kettle black 😝 Go back to MBG’s channel
Definitely NOT worth no $180.