This is real nice. I’m doing this In Canada east coast. my brother and I and we are figuring this out all on our own through UA-cam videos 4 years now and we are progressing really well. Also wake foiling helps . this video is helpful for all levels we started working on this water start this summer and it’s coming along well,. 4 years ago we started on big boards and going from bellies to feet that was tough, then wake board starts and those are a great progression and still use that start as a go to for fast pick ups in waves. I’ve been pretty committed driver for the most part so if your inclined to do a drivers video that would be amazing I really can’t find any how to drivers videos. Just as an FYI we are both experienced surfers and without that experience what we have accomplished on our own would not have been possible. The driver is so important in making the experience as smooth and easy as possible for the rider and there are so many ways to get riders into waves what we call the sling shot method makes a lot of sense sometimes and coming in over the top for the rider is the least preferred way for our waves just too much speed for the rider. As the driver there is so much going on in timing the waves and getting the rider in the right spot it’s a to learn. Safe Slow and steady is what I have learned. I could write much on safety as I am sure when we started we were not aware of what safe meant. From rigging your ski safely to practicing pick ups in calm water and in waves. So any driver tips or thoughts on future driver videos would be amazing, great job thanks for sharing what you do!
Thanks for the note! I appreciate your comments. I’ll try to get some more tutorials out by the end of the year. I can definitely do some pointers for drivers!🤙🏼
right at the end you are saying don't think about edging , but in every shot you are edging away at between 30 and 40 degrees from the propwash , I agree you should edge and keep tension on the rope when getting up just like you actually did in the video, by edging you will get outside the wake on take off as you said you need to do. The rest is great info I just thought i would point that out to people, do edge just slightly to the heel side
@@BackcountryFoilSurfing ok no problem ill await the next one, we used a gps to set the speeds but were lucky to swap drivers, all of which were foiling too so we got a good understanding of what we wanted from the boat and how to give it. The optimum gps top speed always seemed to be when the board was dead level to the water when foiling
Great video!! Thx!! I am 87kg, 49 years young, confident winger, sizing down to 70l now. Looking to start with dockstart. What board would you recommend which I can use for dockstart and wakefoil. Dont think I will be towing, maybe some day but very rarely. I use armstrong. So better a wkt 122 board or better an FG 4.0 27l or 4.5 34l?? I use footstraps winging, would you recommend straps for wakefoiling? Thx
Unfortunately you’re question is a little outside my wheelhouse. However I’ve noticed some other tutorials videos on UA-cam that do a good job of explaining dock starts. I’ll share one with you if I can find a good one. Otherwise I’ll keep this idea on my to do list and film it with some pro’s.
@@RamonSBruhn I am probably biased because I ride the WKT 122. In my opinion it’s a great board for towing and wake riding. I would definitely recommend low volume boards for wake riding.
Holding the board under water with your legs seems really hard. I just have the foil on it's side, hold the rope with one hand, and one on the board with the knees bent. Then when boat gives the initial pull, I just grab the rope with the other hand and twist the board toward the boat.
@@BackcountryFoilSurfing I've been using 21L board for kiting, I wouldn't call that high volume. I'll have to try your method behind a boat! I'm going to guess it's less efficient.
If you're still learning to get up I would suggest approximately 70 feet. Getting away from the prop wash will help make things a little easier for beginners.
Loved the simple, calm description, repeating the key steps. Trying these soon. Mahalo! 🤙
Great video
This is real nice. I’m doing this In Canada east coast. my brother and I and we are figuring this out all on our own through UA-cam videos 4 years now and we are progressing really well. Also wake foiling helps . this video is helpful for all levels we started working on this water start this summer and it’s coming along well,.
4 years ago we started on big boards and going from bellies to feet that was tough, then wake board starts and those are a great progression and still use that start as a go to for fast pick ups in waves.
I’ve been pretty committed driver for the most part so if your inclined to do a drivers video that would be amazing I really can’t find any how to drivers videos.
Just as an FYI we are both experienced surfers and without that experience what we have accomplished on our own would not have been possible.
The driver is so important in making the experience as smooth and easy as possible for the rider and there are so many ways to get riders into waves what we call the sling shot method makes a lot of sense sometimes and coming in over the top for the rider is the least preferred way for our waves just too much speed for the rider. As the driver there is so much going on in timing the waves and getting the rider in the right spot it’s a to learn. Safe Slow and steady is what I have learned.
I could write much on safety as I am sure when we started we were not aware of what safe meant. From rigging your ski safely to practicing pick ups in calm water and in waves.
So any driver tips or thoughts on future driver videos would be amazing, great job thanks for sharing what you do!
Thanks for the note! I appreciate your comments. I’ll try to get some more tutorials out by the end of the year. I can definitely do some pointers for drivers!🤙🏼
right at the end you are saying don't think about edging , but in every shot you are edging away at between 30 and 40 degrees from the propwash , I agree you should edge and keep tension on the rope when getting up just like you actually did in the video, by edging you will get outside the wake on take off as you said you need to do. The rest is great info I just thought i would point that out to people, do edge just slightly to the heel side
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@@BackcountryFoilSurfing ok no problem ill await the next one, we used a gps to set the speeds but were lucky to swap drivers, all of which were foiling too so we got a good understanding of what we wanted from the boat and how to give it. The optimum gps top speed always seemed to be when the board was dead level to the water when foiling
Very good explanation. Thanks!
Great video!! Thx!! I am 87kg, 49 years young, confident winger, sizing down to 70l now. Looking to start with dockstart. What board would you recommend which I can use for dockstart and wakefoil. Dont think I will be towing, maybe some day but very rarely. I use armstrong. So better a wkt 122 board or better an FG 4.0 27l or 4.5 34l?? I use footstraps winging, would you recommend straps for wakefoiling? Thx
Unfortunately you’re question is a little outside my wheelhouse. However I’ve noticed some other tutorials videos on UA-cam that do a good job of explaining dock starts. I’ll share one with you if I can find a good one. Otherwise I’ll keep this idea on my to do list and film it with some pro’s.
Thx,.and for wakefoiling would you recommend a the wkt 122 or the FG 4.0 27l or FG 4.5 34l.
@@RamonSBruhn I am probably biased because I ride the WKT 122. In my opinion it’s a great board for towing and wake riding. I would definitely recommend low volume boards for wake riding.
Great teaching
🙏 Appreciate that! Thank You!
Holding the board under water with your legs seems really hard. I just have the foil on it's side, hold the rope with one hand, and one on the board with the knees bent. Then when boat gives the initial pull, I just grab the rope with the other hand and twist the board toward the boat.
Yes, that sounds like good advice if you’re riding a high volume board that’s hard to sink.
@@BackcountryFoilSurfing I've been using 21L board for kiting, I wouldn't call that high volume. I'll have to try your method behind a boat! I'm going to guess it's less efficient.
How long is the tow rope in this scenario, behind a power boat (Tige/Mastercraft with no ballast) ?
If you're still learning to get up I would suggest approximately 70 feet. Getting away from the prop wash will help make things a little easier for beginners.
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Yazir! Thanks 🙏