Why Dr. Peter Attia Changed his Mind on Fasting (and 4 other Longevity topics)

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    Dr. Peter Attia Has Changed his Mind on These 5 Longevity Topics
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    Timestamps ⏱
    0:00 - Intro - 5 Things Dr. Peter Attia has Changed his Mind on
    0:19 - Regular Fasting
    1:40 - Use Code THOMAS20 for 20% off House of Macadamias!
    2:47 - Agriculture
    5:57 - What is Nitrogen Spiking?
    7:57 - How Powerful Exercise Is as a “Drug”
    11:51 - Skepticism on Metformin as a Geroprotective Molecule
    16:31 - Importance of Emotional Health

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  • @ThomasDeLauerOfficial
    @ThomasDeLauerOfficial  9 місяців тому +10

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    • @gregorya.miller4828
      @gregorya.miller4828 3 місяці тому

      I certainly like Peter, and a lot of what he says. It’s nice that he is now on the exercise bandwagon. It is ironic that he is against pumping nitrogen into the soil. Analogous is humans popping supplements into the human body. There’s no way you can turn around from pumping N in the soil because of the world’s population size.

  • @Bogdanbmm
    @Bogdanbmm Рік тому +436

    When a scientist / doctor / expert changes his mind with new evidence you know he is a good one … most get stuck with some initial thesis and bang it on for decades

    • @EveofPyrite
      @EveofPyrite Рік тому +10

      Lol i don't know why your comment is so funny to me 😂

    • @johnreidy2804
      @johnreidy2804 Рік тому +9

      @@EveofPyrite It's funny because he said, "bang it on for decades". That is one wacky and wild term he used

    • @Bogdanbmm
      @Bogdanbmm Рік тому +3

      😉🙃😊

    • @Bogdanbmm
      @Bogdanbmm Рік тому

      I work in economic research and usually researchers will get stuck with some initial truth and of ego not change the thesis … assuming things like in the past are a constant ;)

    • @Bogdanbmm
      @Bogdanbmm Рік тому +1

      I work in economic research and usually researchers will get stuck with some initial truth and of ego not change the thesis … assuming things like in the past are a constant ;)

  • @oelabed1
    @oelabed1 Рік тому +1652

    My health improved when I stopped listening to the (experts) and started listening to my body

  • @zippydoo9533
    @zippydoo9533 Рік тому +529

    This Dr. not only admitted he changed his mind but explaned why. That is rare and commands respect.

    • @bwoodward9564
      @bwoodward9564 Рік тому +1

      Bart Kay is more informed.

    • @mfkleven
      @mfkleven Рік тому +4

      @@bwoodward9564 That was sarcasm, right?

    • @bwoodward9564
      @bwoodward9564 Рік тому +2

      @@mfkleven Bart is the Socrates of nutrition.

    • @mfkleven
      @mfkleven Рік тому +4

      @@bwoodward9564 OK, now I know you're joking, lol.

    • @bwoodward9564
      @bwoodward9564 Рік тому +1

      @@mfkleven Debunk him then.

  • @KRYPTOSPOLLARD
    @KRYPTOSPOLLARD Рік тому +56

    It's so fucking cool to see someone say "i thought this before, but I've learned more, and i changed my perspective on the topic because i got new info.".

    • @tootstoyou1
      @tootstoyou1 Рік тому +2

      I agree!. Most people never let go of their dogmatic, long held views. They just get old, then die.

    • @guibox3
      @guibox3 Рік тому +1

      The one book that set me on my keto journey was 'Dr. Colbert's Keto Zone Diet". and in it he has a preface admitting that he was wrong on so many levels regarding fat, cholesterol and carbohydrates. I went and looked at two of his other books he had written before and they were filled with the typical mainstream nutrition nonsense like 'saturated fat causes heart disease' and other such stuff. He did a complete 180 after more research. I respect that completely.

    • @RealROI
      @RealROI Рік тому +1

      @@tootstoyou1 How do you know he didn't have a dogmatic view before, but now has one?

  • @idunsgarden
    @idunsgarden Рік тому +183

    I’ve been losing weight with 14-16 hour daily fasts, and I have thyroid disease and am in my 40s so have had terrible luck losing weight before. It’s really helped control my hunger and it’s getting easier to go longer. Love it.

    • @maddad5404
      @maddad5404 Рік тому +12

      I just moved from 16/8 to 20/4. It works even better! Try getting yourself to that point its incredible!

    • @idunsgarden
      @idunsgarden Рік тому +4

      @@maddad5404 working on it. I’ve actually been not hungry so going 17-18 hours.

    • @poptartmadison3216
      @poptartmadison3216 Рік тому +10

      ​@Adalyn Morton be careful it's recommended for women to stick to 14:10 or 16:8 at the most, any more than that and it starts to mess with hormones, same with men fasting more than 16 hours long term - drop in testosterone.

    • @fatherpanic1
      @fatherpanic1 10 місяців тому +1

      I had Thyroid cancer(Medullary Thyroid) I’m over 40, a 12-16 hr fast are helping me lose weight also

    • @otherone1234
      @otherone1234 10 місяців тому +2

      if you only eat one meal a day which plenty for us couch potatoes you really do 23:1. Most days I skip breakfast, lunch and eat dinner at same time each day. Helps with weight management and you will never feel bloated no matter the food you consume, if only eating once a day.

  • @Pennyblue72
    @Pennyblue72 5 місяців тому +18

    Fasting changed my body for the better, and I absolutely love it. I’ve stayed slim and fit for years fasting and I absolutely love it. I would never stop.

    • @rebeccapettiford5389
      @rebeccapettiford5389 5 місяців тому

      That’s great you’re able to fast. I can’t really do that because I get hangry or my blood sugar gets messed up. Everyone is different and I wonder if one reason pertains to the unique gut microbiomes we have. Two people could have healthy gut microbiomes but they’re still different enough so that one person may be able to fast easily without discomfort while another may not be able to do so. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @R27035
    @R27035 Рік тому +682

    Interesting, I always thought he would eventually come to alot of these conclusions, especially the point about metformin. Regarding the 7 day and 3 day fasts, it's possible it's that it's detrimental in some way to those people who are very fit and healthy like himself. But for those of us who are obese and have several metabolic issues, 3 and 7 day fasts still may provide much needed benefit.

    • @DivineLogos
      @DivineLogos Рік тому +94

      True, fasting should be in proportion to how lean you are.
      The leaner you are the shorter and less frequent you should fast.

    • @ErickOberholtzer
      @ErickOberholtzer Рік тому +52

      Dr. Valter Longo has always recommended a 3 day fast for healthy active 25-70ish year olds. He's one of the leading experts on fasting and fasting research. I like his recommendations because he never seems to have lost the forest for the trees. Look his stuff up!
      EDIT: He has recommended the 3 day water fast like 2-4 times per year

    • @letuswrap
      @letuswrap Рік тому +22

      I thought it was crazy that he used to take metformin as a prophylactic

    • @cherylfauth9543
      @cherylfauth9543 Рік тому +14

      I love all the 'experts' on here.

    • @supirman
      @supirman Рік тому +37

      Fasting doesn't do anything special. All these 'But autophagy' people don't realize simply going into a caloric deficit and exercising induces autophagy. Also, losing extra lean mass is never a good long term solution.

  • @AccelerateYourSuccess
    @AccelerateYourSuccess Рік тому +81

    The fact that the doctor answered Thoma's Q with the A: "It's possible. I don't know." is THE most impressive thing I heard him say.

    • @mco119jj
      @mco119jj Рік тому +3

      Lol. So true.

    • @jordixboy
      @jordixboy Рік тому

      Why would you be surprised by a normal human interaction? This is totally normal in real life. Get out of UA-cam, it's filled with egotastical people mostly.

    • @acement1
      @acement1 4 місяці тому +2

      'I don't know' is the most important thing that a scientist must be able to say. Anyone who can't say 'I don't know" is not a scientist. I miss Richard Feynman.

    • @thomassymonds5300
      @thomassymonds5300 2 місяці тому

      Was thinking the same!

  • @RichardHarlos
    @RichardHarlos Рік тому +119

    I enjoyed this interview. Thank you, Thomas, for allowing Dr. Attia to speak without interrupting his answers. And thanks also to Dr. Attia, whom I first encountered while watching TED Talks. He spoke about diabetes and about how perhaps it might be the case that we may be confusing 'cause' and 'effect'. The willingness to change one's views over time, in light of new information, seems to me the heart of good science. In contrast with so many people who lock-in to one way of eating, or fasting, or exercising, etc., it's nice to see adaptation in action.

  • @pamelawalmsley5971
    @pamelawalmsley5971 Рік тому +485

    I am so proud of Peter. Coming forward with the changes he has made in his thought processes about certain things. I respect him even more.

    • @tonynoonan3723
      @tonynoonan3723 Рік тому +22

      If he wasnt so arrogant he would never have held as truths, things that were evidence free zones !
      He is still banging on about ApoB and is an ardent follower of epidemiological nonsense.
      Quiet a dangerous Dr in my view,flip flops on positions he should never have held in the first place.
      A large dose of humility is what I would prescribe for him which would help keep his patients safer and prevent the deluded from being influenced by his copious outpourings.

    • @otherone1234
      @otherone1234 Рік тому +5

      @@tonynoonan3723 what surprised me the most on this interview was the fact that he said "he used to do heavy exercising when he was fasting". Fasting is NOT to help you build muscle LOL. Of course, you'd lose muscle if you exercise while fasting... your muscle will eat itself (so to speak) to repair itself from the exercise, Da stupid doctor...

    • @theigshow5066
      @theigshow5066 Рік тому

      @@tonynoonan3723xactly he should step out or just get into creating studies and stfu

    • @dwights1464
      @dwights1464 Рік тому +6

      @@tonynoonan3723 What's wrong with monitoring ApoB to measure lipid-related CVD risk?

    • @elsamatos2581
      @elsamatos2581 Рік тому +14

      ⁠​⁠@@tonynoonan3723 I guess you can’t see the paradox of your own comment.

  • @elizabethboegel5965
    @elizabethboegel5965 Рік тому +130

    As a regenerative urban farmer, thank you.

    • @doublek321
      @doublek321 Рік тому +1

      Is there a way to order food from you? Or any sites that do the same as you that do have ordering?

    • @johnreidy2804
      @johnreidy2804 Рік тому

      @@doublek321 No, I don't think there is any way to order food from that dude

    • @Hippy2021
      @Hippy2021 Рік тому

      @@doublek321 they don't have the system for orders and deliveries like the big food companies, and specially they are from the country side, simply no technology.

    • @jmc8076
      @jmc8076 Рік тому +2

      Thank you. You’re walking in the foot prints of the indigenous and ancient peoples who worked with and respected the land and rest of nature. But also weren’t addicted to and reliant on cheap fast convenient food options. I support our small local growers and producers when and as I can. You and they cope with big ag industry and red tape. Peace and health.

    • @elizabethboegel5965
      @elizabethboegel5965 Рік тому +5

      @@doublek321 Where do you live? I live in the Bay Area in California and can give you lots of suggestions here, but not elsewhere. There is a site called Local Harvest which can tell you what's in your neighborhood! Also, your local farmers' market is a good place to start.

  • @yanislav16
    @yanislav16 Рік тому +242

    I used to be on the keto diet along with fasting.
    I’m no longer on keto, but skipping breakfast and eating within about a 6 hour window has been very beneficial for weight loss. I’m so used to it, that I don’t even get hungry in the morning.
    Most times I have my first meal around 3 pm, but sometimes I don’t eat in till 7pm

    • @jw-vx8im
      @jw-vx8im Рік тому

      You've probably lost muscle mass and developed hormonal issues

    • @Theqpom
      @Theqpom Рік тому

      Eating low carb, good fat, low or no sugar/sweeteners, -natural foods and vegetables combined with some fasting is the way. Seed/vegetable oils are in everything processed and the omega 6 load on our cells is toxic to our mitochondrial function. I can’t believe Peter was taking Metformin for anti cancer benefits. I wouldn’t even recommend it for T 2 Diabetes. Just go low carb and follow Dr Unwin out of Southport, he is changing UK food guidelines almost single handed IMO.

    • @samieramohamed2467
      @samieramohamed2467 Рік тому +7

      Good for you.Excellent, well done, good luck.

    • @HH-gv8mx
      @HH-gv8mx Рік тому +2

      Do you do any kind of work out?

    • @HH-gv8mx
      @HH-gv8mx Рік тому +3

      I have been fasting since 10 PM last night. It is now 5 PM. I would like to go for a run as I haven’t exercised in over 48 hours and have been sitting at work. But at the same time I feel lightheaded and weak. I also took berberine after my last meal at 10 PM, I drink some coffee but it just made me feel really shaky and lightheaded. I’m also not producing urine or drinking water like I normally do. Not sure what’s going on but I wish I can fast easily for 24 hours and work out without feeling like this

  • @miles6875
    @miles6875 Рік тому +86

    Tom playing the interview/host role works incredibly work. Social skills/self awareness is ultra high, making for great interviews

    • @carolinacadabra8278
      @carolinacadabra8278 Рік тому +14

      Agree. He knows how to ask intelligent questions and then shut up and listen.

    • @johnreidy2804
      @johnreidy2804 Рік тому +3

      You said, "works incredibly work." Hahaha...sorry but I laughed so hard 😂

    • @richieblasco5218
      @richieblasco5218 Рік тому +2

      I will comment very comment :D

  • @94nolo
    @94nolo Рік тому +22

    This deserves so much recognition publicly. The past several years of practical diet and nutrition advancement are being distilled into better and better advice.

  • @Myperfectshell
    @Myperfectshell Рік тому +122

    I know it’s not the focus here, but I could not imagine my life without the joy of longer fasting. There is a reason most spiritual traditions incorporate it into their practice. It’s incredible. I’ve been fasting since I was 27, and I am now 44. It’s extremely challenging, or can be, but that is part of it. To embrace hunger, go into ketosis, get hyoerfocused - for me it’s like an alternative form of sleep, or meditation, even vacation. I just completed a 72 hour fast, and it was sheer bliss. I think the mindset and intention is so important. I would not be doing this if strictly for physiological benefit. Incomplete approach.

    • @bwoodward9564
      @bwoodward9564 Рік тому +3

      Bart Kay is more informed.

    • @9mully
      @9mully Рік тому +10

      @Tony 3 day water fast will not destroy muscle, cmon don't be ridiculous

    • @Utoko
      @Utoko Рік тому +5

      He only focused on his muscle loss which was his fault to begin with, since he overtaxed his muscled which fasting. You are fine

    • @Madmun357
      @Madmun357 Рік тому +3

      Three days isn't really a "longer" fasting period. A two or three day fast feels great. I've done as long as five days. Beyond that is tough.

    • @jamesdawgsbrown
      @jamesdawgsbrown 11 місяців тому +1

      @@9mully Yes it won't. I do 3 day fasts and it is so freaking helpful to me.

  • @jameschesterton
    @jameschesterton Рік тому +248

    I think the bottom line is that we don't really know what the optimal way to live is, whether that be in the realm of food, exercise, sleep, work, emotional/spiritual work. One study comes out to show one thing, then another study comes out to say the opposite, one person says one thing another person says another, and then one person says something and twelve months later says the opposite.
    You could spend a lifetime trying to figure this stuff out and you're still going to die just like everybody else.

    • @nonacee5065
      @nonacee5065 Рік тому +22

      At this stage, I'm going to be doing 'me'. There's a lifetime of learning, listening, and watching, and at 70, hopefully, I can stave off inflammation, pain, accumulated aches, weight, and senility by taking a commonsense approach between extremes, like ketovore with flexi days between missing a couple of meals or doing a slight carb increase when needed.
      When Dr. Attia said he changed his mind on exercise, I thought 'great', only to find he still gets in 12 hours or so a week. He does look a bit tired of the whole thing, however, perhaps wanting new interests to see him into old age.
      We are like mice on the never-ending treadmill of 'possibilities and what-if's' until death takes us out, just as you say.

    • @bassamal-kaaki3253
      @bassamal-kaaki3253 Рік тому +24

      I have read all the comments and yours sticks and sinks in very well. Too much info these days is actually the main cause of wrecking havoc with us. One day something is good the other its bad. I say we exercise, eat in a balanced way, and try to live healthy to the last day we have. 😊

    • @mfkleven
      @mfkleven Рік тому +34

      Forgive me, but I think you guys are missing the forest for a few evolving trees. The bottom line, in fact, is that we absolutely do know how to eat, exercise, sleep, etc. to be healthy. The fine-tuning of details to “optimize” health (like fasting and metformin, plant-based vs keto) are more debatable and will continue to evolve as science progresses. But the fundamentals, the vast majority of Dr. Attia’s message, and the greater message of all reliable healthcare providers has not changed. To throw up your hands and abandon the pursuit of truth because the details get refined over time is to misunderstand the process-and power-of science.

    • @RichardHarlos
      @RichardHarlos Рік тому +22

      @@mfkleven I don't think the point of the original comment was to 'abandon the pursuit of truth', rather, that we not get bogged down in the seemingly fluid conclusions as our science refines our understanding over time. Even in this somewhat reductionist view, it can be easy to miss the mark. For example, plant-based vs carnivore is a big divide. One would think this would be a simple matter to deconstruct to a definitive conclusion and yet... the jury is still out.
      I initially leaned toward vegan as a matter of personal conscience. I found the nutritional challenges too hard to accommodate, so I slid a bit and looked at vegetarianism. While not strictly a vegan perspective, it seemed much easier to realize a more complete nutritional intake but without jumping through so many hoops.
      Still, I never felt like, 'A-ha! This is the answer!' so I began learning about paleo, keto, and eventually carnivore. And here's the thing: every food-selection motif has it's evidence supporting it, and if not criticizing the alternatives, at least framing them in a way that makes them seem 'less-than' whichever one happens to be at the podium in any given moment.
      At the moment, my current perspective is very much agnostic: I don't know which motif is better, or even if it's reasonable to suggest that one outshines all the rest. Are they merely different paths to the same outcome? I'm leaning toward 'yes', but without a strong conviction about that leaning.
      When I listen to Dr. Chaffee, I'm ready to dive into carnivore. However, considering the enormous body of evidence Dr. Greger has amassed in his book, "How Not to Die", there's compelling evidence to suggest that plant-based eating also confers enormous benefits to many who follow it. And that leaves me firmly seated on the fence.

    • @mfkleven
      @mfkleven Рік тому +13

      Great points. And forgive me if I misrepresented the original post.
      You’re absolutely right: we should know by now if we’re herbivores, carnivores, or omnivores. That seems like such a fundamental question, yet the debates rage on, and the science is very confusing.
      The archeological record is clear that humans have always eaten whatever they could, plant and animal, carbs and fat. We are, in fact, omnivores. However, that doesn’t rule out the possibility that a more restrictive diet might be optimal, especially within a modern context. Plant-based diets have the most evidentiary support to date, but that could be simply because more studies have been done on veganism, and because it’s usually been compared with a standard American diet of ultra-processed food. Perhaps someday carnivores will have an equally abundant stack of studies on their side, but to date their evidence is almost entirely mechanistic and anecdotal. Animal consumption can increase cardiovascular disease through its effect on apo B-that’s pretty hard to dispute at this point. But it can be easily mitigated pharmacologically if needed.
      Interestingly, the common ground among competing dietary tribes is real food, which is basically the opposite of the standard American diet. Evidence against ultra-processed food is compelling, growing, evolutionarily sound and mechanistically plausible. Perhaps that ought to be our focus.
      I think Peter’s take on this subject is appropriate. When something really matters, the effect is unmistakable, and hazard ratios are large-like with smoking and lung cancer, or with VO2 max and mortality. When an effect is very difficult to tease out, it probably doesn’t matter all that much. The superiority of a plant-based diet is pretty consistent when compared with omnivorous or low carb diets, but hazard ratios are small, sometimes too small to detect. Furthermore, much of that benefit vanishes when studies control for fruit and vegetable intake.
      So, as Peter says, obsessing over dietary dogma is an example of majoring in the minors. A vegan who doesn’t exercise is also minoring in the majors. Focus on things that really matter, and what seems to matter most about diet is real food and energy balance. That’s my take for the moment, but my opinion will change as the science evolves!

  • @defman85
    @defman85 Рік тому +45

    Fasting an entire day once a week has been working for me. I also do a 2 day fast once every 5 weeks. To each their own. I’m glad I found a routine I can stick to.

    • @SuzanneU
      @SuzanneU Рік тому +4

      Attia was ingesting nothing but water for 7-10 days in a row.

    • @defman85
      @defman85 Рік тому

      @@SuzanneU I find that extreme. But I like said. To each their own.

    • @kevinorr6880
      @kevinorr6880 Рік тому

      I find longer-term fasting, 3 to 7 days not extreme at all, but to be very regenerative for the liver and arthritis. Different focus, for sure

    • @frogmouth
      @frogmouth 11 місяців тому +2

      That worked also with my bro who no longer is prediabetic . It's not extreme and can be done for years ..

  • @phoenixedge4049
    @phoenixedge4049 Рік тому +75

    I used to also fast too aggressively. It tanked my testosterone to the point I was diagnosed with hypogonadism and under 100 ng/dL total serum testosterone. I also lost a lot of muscle mass that took me two years to recover after I stopped long term fasting. Now, I practice at least daily 12 hour fasts, but usually 16/8. A 36 hour fast once per month. This works for me. I’m very active (walk 5+ miles daily and deadlift over 600 lbs) and need about 3500 calories per day to maintain my weight.

    • @tomg5405
      @tomg5405 Рік тому +2

      What kind of fasting you did before?

    • @phoenixedge4049
      @phoenixedge4049 Рік тому +4

      @@tomg5405 1 36 hour fast weekly, 1 3 day fast monthly, 1 7 day fast annually

    • @gyanusitott4939
      @gyanusitott4939 Рік тому +12

      12 hours is not a fast 😆

    • @tomg5405
      @tomg5405 Рік тому +2

      @@phoenixedge4049 yes that is a lot

    • @WarrantChen
      @WarrantChen Рік тому +7

      hey man gonna help you out a bit. If your fasting for your health, you should see the benefits right away such as more energy, quicker healing of cells due to stem cell production, clearer mind. If you are doing it to the extend where you feel like your killing yourself then your doing it wrong. 7 day fast if your obese and looking to lose weight. Should not be done on a healthy lean person where muscle wasting is going to be high. Your health cells wasting if bad for your health and can't go into details.

  • @mamalovesthebeach437
    @mamalovesthebeach437 Рік тому +31

    I fasted like Dr. Attila for years. I hadn’t considered muscle loss. At 68 muscle loss is critical to health and longevity. I have never eaten breakfast so will typically go 14-16 hours before eating. Regenerative ag makes complete sense. I have started purchasing my garbanzo beans, lentils and rice from a family owned business that uses regenerative farming practices.

    • @jackiekhoapham7804
      @jackiekhoapham7804 Рік тому +2

      he did say that sub-20 hours fasting is fine though. The problem arose when you do extreme fasting of 3-7 days with just drinking water.

  • @emilybarry9410
    @emilybarry9410 Рік тому +9

    I am a HUGE fan of Peter’s work (and yours too Thomas!) am re-reading his book now and have learned so much from him over the years. I had NO IDEA that he was into learning about/supporting Regen AG, this is so cool to me bc I am very passionate about this as well! Hope to see a podcast from him on this in the future!

  • @helenahandkart1857
    @helenahandkart1857 Рік тому +46

    Great hearing him explain the value & necessity of caring for the land & soil biome, & hence of regenerative farming & nutrient dense safe food production. & great to hear men discussing & actively working on emotional health, which is such a fundamental underpinning to our general wellbeing. What a fantastic interview. Awesome work, blokes!👍

  • @cgkuch4184
    @cgkuch4184 Рік тому +132

    I’ve been fasting most days of the week between 12-18 hours for the last 5 years. I’m 55 5’10” 205lbs with 8-12% body fat. Resting heart rate between 49bpm-59bpm. My workouts are full body workouts 3x week. They are pretty intense. This is what works for me and I love how it makes me look and feel. I take a week off the workouts every 5 - 6 weeks.

    • @simonmcintosh6565
      @simonmcintosh6565 Рік тому +6

      I wouldn’t really call that fasting myself.

    • @SuzanneU
      @SuzanneU Рік тому +15

      That's not what Attia is talking about. He's taking about eating nothing at all for 7-10 days at a stretch. He drank water.
      You're taking about restricted time eating.

    • @easyox77
      @easyox77 Рік тому +1

      One meal a day baby, I’m the same at 46 years old. 100 grams of protein more than enough for me.

    • @faintsherin4468
      @faintsherin4468 Рік тому +1

      @simon
      You get over 100g of protein by chicken breast + whey that’s like 200-300kcal depending on the chick breast weight and scoops of whey. You supplement something if it’s missing, but be wary though, for there are always positives and negatives in everything.

    • @cgkuch4184
      @cgkuch4184 Рік тому

      @@SuzanneU I know I’m doing a more restricted calorie diet however it just works for me. My metabolism is still through the roof. One of these days I’d like to try a 72 hour fast but I still workout pretty consistent and hard and don’t want to lose too much muscle. As we all age I don’t think it’s necessary we eat three meals a day. Everyone is different. As long as it works for you.

  • @uniquesensitivesnowflake7366
    @uniquesensitivesnowflake7366 Рік тому +118

    For now, I’m gonna stick to fasting. I still feel better if I fast

    • @Neo-iv2kr
      @Neo-iv2kr Рік тому +1

      @@Lovebomb-pu7ji fasting is catabolic and so is eating in a defecit. No sh!t you'll lose muscle if you fast long enough!

    • @johnreidy2804
      @johnreidy2804 Рік тому +18

      @Lovebomb If you are lean and in shape to begin with you definitely lose muscle friend. I have 10% body fat and if I fast longer than one day it takes me about two weeks to gain back the muscle I lose.

    • @davidflorez1196
      @davidflorez1196 Рік тому +12

      ​@Lovebomb he said that prolonged fasting of 3-10 days has downsides like Lossing muscle mass that probably don't equal the benefits but intermittent fasting in the other hand don't have that negative impact and you still have the benefits of autophagy etc...

    • @lippylennnox
      @lippylennnox Рік тому +21

      @@johnreidy2804 John you cannot lose such a large amount of muscle in one day brother Hahaha. What you probably did lose was water, glycogen and electrolytes.
      This would have made your muscles look smaller, but no no, muscle loss that's visible in one day...Nope.

    • @lippylennnox
      @lippylennnox Рік тому +2

      @@davidflorez1196 David if a person is young, it's no problem at all.
      in Nature old age actually starts at 30 years old, the reason is that we lose the benefit of hormones past 30 but then the body compensates by releasing HGH so it's cool and no problem at all unless a person is like 70-80 years old when natural sarcopenia is in full swing. Native peoples will naturally be in a state of autophagy as they simply don't have constant access to food, a typical hunt can take anything from 12 hours to 3 days or more, meanwhile, the people back in the village live on Bulbus roots, plants and berries with some wild honey or local meat like Rats, Bats, etc both men and women Hadza are very resourceful and highly experienced in local botany and animals especially tracking.

  • @johnboylong40
    @johnboylong40 Рік тому +80

    Out of all these opinions it just seems clear to eat Whole Foods, not processed foods and reduce as much sugar as possible. Exercise at least a couple times per week and “move” as many days as possible. Walk, play, swim, whatever. Over doing anything can be a negative including fasting.

    • @chuckleezodiac24
      @chuckleezodiac24 Рік тому +6

      i've had enough of your lunacy! you are advocating that we should just use "common sense." you're ridiculous!

    • @Elgringo2180
      @Elgringo2180 Рік тому +3

      Underrated comment 👍🏼

    • @matterman2003
      @matterman2003 Рік тому +2

      Yes, even drinking too much water can kill you. I try to eat one item foods as much as possible and avoid known chronic inflammatory foods for many like concentrated milk(whey, Greek yogurt, etc) and wheat.

    • @lu77xiaojun37
      @lu77xiaojun37 Рік тому +3

      ......sorta like your great grand parents did eh?

    • @dg6845
      @dg6845 Рік тому

      ​@@matterman2003 Thomas advocates greek yogurt....whats wrong with greek yogurt?

  • @fredjma
    @fredjma Рік тому +25

    Wait in 10 years and hear him say “what learned is that I over exercised. I used to train 12 hours but I realised that 3 hours of high intensity is more than enough for health “

    • @RealROI
      @RealROI Рік тому +2

      How about 3 - 4 years? Exactly. He has opinions like everyone else. funny people believe he is so "Scientific". Scientism perhaps but not Scientific.

  • @Phil-mw7xy
    @Phil-mw7xy Рік тому +13

    Didn't expect Peter to talk about modern agriculture. Kudos to him for promoting regenerative agriculture, it makes me optimistic about our future as a species.

    • @benzun9600
      @benzun9600 Місяць тому

      took these experts long enough what most organic farmers and health freaks talked about 25 years ago

  • @garycobe3472
    @garycobe3472 Рік тому +43

    Dream team interview! Now just add in Huberman! Absolutely love when all my favorites get together to continue to help millions change their lives! Thank you Thomas!

    • @jackbauer9347
      @jackbauer9347 Рік тому +7

      Yes, Huberman is very knowledgeable and thorough. That would be a killer interview with Thomas.

    • @creativesource3514
      @creativesource3514 Рік тому

      I think Prof David Sinclair would me more useful.

    • @garycobe3472
      @garycobe3472 Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately his research is only to benefit his pockets. Use to watch his content.

  • @77777jetta
    @77777jetta Рік тому +21

    Love my Attia! I always learn so much from this young man! What I like the most about Dr Attia is that he, himself investigate and perform what he talks about in his book and podcast! It is so great to see a healthy doctor, both mind and body! Keep up the great work Peter! Most of all please keep sharing your knowledge with the world! Many thanks!!!

    • @vladimirtsalyuk8162
      @vladimirtsalyuk8162 Рік тому +2

      young man? he looks 60 or older

    • @Dbb27
      @Dbb27 Рік тому +4

      @@vladimirtsalyuk8162 😊 depends on one’s point of reference.

    • @Agoodname4u
      @Agoodname4u Рік тому +2

      @@vladimirtsalyuk8162 there is no official age at which we switch to “old” from “young.” Age is very relative to the perspective of others. :)

    • @Dbb27
      @Dbb27 Рік тому

      @@Agoodname4u it’s most relative to one’s own perspective. I see many that use their age as a crutch to whine and are rather manipulative. Asking for others to lift things for them when it’s not necessary. One loses muscle strength when everyone else uses their muscles and you don’t.

    • @elyen1151
      @elyen1151 5 місяців тому

      ​@@vladimirtsalyuk8162come on, are you 15?:)) He isn't even 50 i am sure, late 40-ties(?), but a"young man"..., that's cute, this could only say someone who is around the age of this man's parents

  • @dawngonzalez508
    @dawngonzalez508 Рік тому +12

    Two of my favorite people 💕 hope there's a full episode.

  • @justrione
    @justrione Рік тому +12

    Great minds. Thank goodness for all that you both do

  • @tonytube..beyondthestars6961
    @tonytube..beyondthestars6961 Рік тому +2

    Thisis awesome, everyone wants to see more of this as Thomas the interviewer with key people in the global industry,this is long awaited

  • @colettefackrell7349
    @colettefackrell7349 11 місяців тому

    Have always learned a ton of new info and perspectives when I watch Dr Peter Attia’s videos. Here is a person whose views are intelligently-expressed, well-informed, and objective. Keeps me motivated to stay on top of my health. Thank you!

  • @virtualrealityfitness283
    @virtualrealityfitness283 Рік тому +7

    18/6 has worked for me and I’ll never change now!

  • @Saloomz71
    @Saloomz71 9 місяців тому +24

    As a muslim we are advised to fast 15 to 17 hour fast twice a week dry fast no water , ive been doing it and my face shape and jawline and mental clarity all went to whole new llevel , Im muslim but barely religious person, i ramadan which is our fasting month we fast 15 to 17 hours most times for 30 days , so i did ramadan when i felt like i was low in life a kind of stressed and i had low cognitive function , it seemed my soul is crashing , fasting saved me and since then i started islamic fasting till this day , reminding you again not because im religious but because it really works. And dry fast is the strongest and most intense form of fast. Good luck with your fasting journey

    • @zayd7282
      @zayd7282 6 місяців тому

      You keep repeating that you are not religious...are you ashamed to be a religious Muslim? So you are just fasting to be healthy..I think you will get what you want in terms of wealth. Maybe that's all. You will loose health eventually. Enjoy it while it lasts. Good luck.😂

  • @rachelmaechel
    @rachelmaechel Рік тому +2

    Thank you. Great interview. Wish it were longer. Hope you two continue to get together, good combination.

  • @KRYPTOSPOLLARD
    @KRYPTOSPOLLARD Рік тому +2

    White Oak Pastures is my relatively local regenerative farming organization. I 10/10 recommend an in person visit to whatever your reputable local regenerative farm is. It's fantastic to meet actual experts, that are actually doing it, and doing it properly. And 99% of them are very happy to have you visit and learn about the operation. Knowing exactly where you food comes from and the process of how it's created, is incredibly powerful.

  • @ddb12345
    @ddb12345 Рік тому +11

    I pay for youtube Premium so as to avoid ADS. When channels like this build them into the video, I change the channel.

  • @TheMothernerd
    @TheMothernerd Рік тому +10

    I'm sooooo happy to hear Peter's shifting views on long term cautionary view of pesticides and herbicides and regenerative agriculture. That used to be one of the only things that rubbed me the wrong way with his views. Glad he's digested some of the research around that.

    • @ThePallidor
      @ThePallidor 11 місяців тому

      He's still got a loooooong way to go.

    • @jibarican
      @jibarican 9 місяців тому

      He should have always have a growth mindset, thereby caution that not all is fully understood. Instead he chose to go the "it's bullshit" because I've yet to delve into it, readily dismissing the very data that today is making him reconsider his position. While it's a sound characteristic to willingly change perspective based on new data, I've always considered him a close-ended sort of personality to take with a grain of salt. His position now of, I'm learning, I didn't know this data, there is something to it; should always be there, rather than 2 decades later. Age I suppose...

  • @BraddBirmingham
    @BraddBirmingham Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video. Always good to reflect on how your understandings and opinions change slightly over time.

  • @gaetanguimond1911
    @gaetanguimond1911 Рік тому +8

    I agree with everything Dr Attia said. Everything is interconnected in some ways. Extreem fasting or sport is only good to compensate for an other addiction, fix a cancer, or achieve world record but it is always a trade. You can die climbing Everest, destroy your knees with super intense workout ( running on asphalt) or like me, ripoff you rotator calf on your shoulder and hurt your knees by heavy lifting. What doesn't hurt when you are 20 years old show up again when you get older. Balance is key.

  • @ifeelfine72
    @ifeelfine72 Рік тому +3

    Excellent! Two of my favorite health experts. I’m reading Dr. Attia’s book, Outlive, now. It’s great and I encourage anyone watching this video to read it.

    • @jaghad
      @jaghad Рік тому

      🤣 You're definitely funny. Rofl.

  • @CancerTherapy
    @CancerTherapy Рік тому +4

    I took 3gr Metformin for 20 years and I get a cancer stage 4 Terminal? Metformin is not protective. Today I am Cancer Free. It will be a pleasure to speak on your UA-cam too. Thanks, Guy Tenenbaum

    • @greuju
      @greuju 7 місяців тому

      You eat refined carbs like pasta and sugar?
      Metformin ain't gonna protect from that.

  • @mattvdh
    @mattvdh Місяць тому +1

    I have huge amount of respect for him admitting his views needed readjusting. There's no shame in admitting that you've learned new, better ways of doing something.

  • @meganbrown7484
    @meganbrown7484 Рік тому +1

    We live and learn! I love how his humbleness allows him to make this video.

  • @scott-richardson
    @scott-richardson Рік тому +43

    I am doing a fast from Friday dinner through to Sunday breakfast once a week, sometimes once every other week. So basically eat nothing on Saturday. I feel incredible. I don't want to lose muscle so that's about as long as I will do. But I can already see massive improvements in things like my skin - which I have had issues with for some time.

    • @davehughesfarm7983
      @davehughesfarm7983 11 місяців тому +2

      36-42 is about perfect for me too..

    • @seancrowe3353
      @seancrowe3353 11 місяців тому +4

      It's not so much the fast that's helping you, rather the things you're giving your body a break from during the fast. You could probably get the same results by modifying what you eat and can then skip the fast (if you preferred)

    • @Charlie-eq3dj
      @Charlie-eq3dj 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@seancrowe3353You're still giving the organs a break once a week from digestion. And it's been also proven In mice that if you reduce their caloric intake, it extends their life.

  • @Ribcut
    @Ribcut Рік тому +9

    1:03 he was triggering gluconeogenesis by exercising during the fast. Intentionally not exercising during the fast will cause your body to burn visceral fat instead of muscle. Dr. Goldhamer confirmed this as well and explains this to anyone attempting a prolonged fast.

    • @RB621337
      @RB621337 10 місяців тому

      Do you mind explaining that in simple terms? Does this mean that not exercising whilst fasted burns more visceral fat whilst exercising and fasting?

    • @Ribcut
      @Ribcut 10 місяців тому

      @@RB621337 that is what it means yes.
      Dr. Goldhamer has researched prolonged fasting probably more than anyone, and this is what he says.
      He's also advocate of vegan lifestyle, which I don't personally agree with at all, but his views and arguments of visceral fat and gluconeogensis makes perfect sense. Just look him up and listen to his logic.

    • @Stormie33
      @Stormie33 6 місяців тому

      @@Ribcut Exactly. Ideally, you'd only workout right at the beginning of a fast to burn through your glycogen stores so your body switches to fat burning sooner. After that, you don't want to put any added glucose demand on your body, which working out does.

  • @cmarkhalberstadt
    @cmarkhalberstadt Рік тому +1

    Really helpful video! Some really good information I can use in my life. Thanks for putting it up!

  • @YamatoForever
    @YamatoForever Рік тому +2

    Another good show. Keep bringing on the PHD's and MD's. Regarding Metformin...I was on it full time for over 10 years and had been taking it of and on since 2007. Last year I was getting extreme exhaustion. Walking was a problem. I stopped taking Metformin and haven't had an exhaustion episode in over 9 months.

  • @shrimpkins
    @shrimpkins Рік тому +89

    I'm a Vietnamese rice paddy farmer. I work 16 hours a day, carrying heavy buckets through muddy fields. I can relate to not having enough time for zone 2 cardio in my schedule! I've actually discussed this at length with my dialectical behavioral therapist. Also I have been experimenting with metformin for a few years, tracking my progress with an app on my iPhone, and I too have become suspicious of the risk/benefit calculus. Kudos to Peter for devoting maximum effort to optimal work-life balance! You only have one life to live, and it is imperative to shower yourself with good vibes all day long, as the buddha said. YOLO bro!!!

    • @korchansan
      @korchansan Рік тому +23

      Boss I am pretty sure carrying heavy buckets through mud for 16 hours a day in a way is a form of zone 2 cardio

    • @user-kc7mu4jp4p
      @user-kc7mu4jp4p Рік тому +5

      'dialectical behavioral therapist' - As a farmer myself, I have never heard of such a thing. never needed a therapist of any sort. Must Google, lol!

    • @axiomic
      @axiomic Рік тому +14

      /sarcasm
      lol nice

    • @clarity2115
      @clarity2115 Рік тому +8

      Vietnamese rice paddy farmer eh.

    • @michaeldwyer977
      @michaeldwyer977 Рік тому +17

      Not exactly how I’d imagine a Vietnamese rice paddy farmer to speak (write) in English. 😅

  • @hubpakerxx
    @hubpakerxx Рік тому +78

    I think sticking to 20hr fasting 2-3 times a week is optimal for me. I also would eat additional 30g of protein within that 4hrs feeding windows and i haven't experience the muscle loss so far and it’s been over 2 years.

    • @rgk9999
      @rgk9999 Рік тому +1

      I think from n=1 study that would highly depend on the amount of muscle mass you have. The body will shed any load it sees unnecessary as needs arise.

    • @victoriaboster1177
      @victoriaboster1177 Рік тому

      You are lucky to apparently have access to a dexa, mri, ct or us. I would love to check in on my composition at will. However the evidence based model shows a very gradual mass loss over time but yay for you there are always outliers.

    • @hubpakerxx
      @hubpakerxx Рік тому

      @@victoriaboster1177 I was simply utilizing the scale and body measurement. Waist, chest, arms, thighs, calf neck, biceps etc. And my muscle measurements were slowly and slightly going up and my weight got up only 5lb in a year with my waistline being the same. I was probably only in my caloric deficit for 2-3 days a week and on the days I fasted ate additional protein.

    • @matth9939
      @matth9939 Рік тому

      @@victoriaboster1177 what a B

    • @simonmcintosh6565
      @simonmcintosh6565 Рік тому

      @@rgk9999ot on a few individual days of some time restricted eating.

  • @123MCQ123
    @123MCQ123 11 місяців тому

    Very impressed with Thomas as an interviewer. He gives just the right amount of guidance and input, and lets Peter speak uninterrupted.

  • @jackbauer9347
    @jackbauer9347 Рік тому

    Great interview Thomas. I love listening to Attia. Please have more of these with high level folks.

  • @gabrieln3613
    @gabrieln3613 Рік тому +5

    Finally!!! (at least that is what it feels like) to hear some circling around to better understand agriculture and the living organism and biome that soil is...and what happens when, through the recent modern chemical methods used the soil becomes a sterile medium. I have 45+ years' experience in designing eco-communities, farms, landscapes, homesteads, ponds, pools, structures, greenhouses, small orchards, etc. This all started as I grew up studying Marine Biology and then at 17 found yoga, meditation, natural foods (which at that time meant making your own granola, growing your own wheatgrass, sprouts, etc.) and other healing modalities. Helped establish a healing retreat community in the PNW and lived there for years, honing in on the food growing and preservation methods. This evolved into doing this work professionally. Currently have a team for designing farms, eco-communities, retreats, etc. and that team includes 2 farmers, naturopathic doctor, 3 architectural draftsmen, 2 interior designers, and my own experience.....as well as a network of regenerative agriculture experts in livestock, marine, plant science, alternative energy, etc. If the focus is in building ( in many cases restorative re-building) soils (including with the ruminant animals doing their service) the result can be improving the ecology while producing more dense quality foods and increasing wildlife diversity as well. Thank you for posting this interview and helping forward the understandings on these issues. There is so much marketing with "plant based" to save the planet, health fads, etc. that is filled with misinformation. Thanks again.

    • @Veci_RigVeda
      @Veci_RigVeda Рік тому

      If you’re hiring I’d like to apply, you’re doing some fine pioneering work.

    • @deborahs2593
      @deborahs2593 Рік тому +1

      There's a fellow on UA-cam called Morgan Gold- his channel is Gold Shaw Farms. He's working hard to understand and PRACTICE regenerative farming- orchards, cattle, ducks and geese. I know several UA-camrs doing this- it helps to get the information out.

  • @deanallen5567
    @deanallen5567 Рік тому +5

    Organic food is denser, more flavourful and surely therefore holding greater nutrient potential. How do I know this? From the personal experience of growing my own organic food. Compared, shop purchased veg (U.K) is often flavour-less and sometimes even hardly worth eating.

  • @JoelRoseTV
    @JoelRoseTV Рік тому +1

    Amazing to see these two come together.

  • @OurFamilyInMotion
    @OurFamilyInMotion Рік тому +49

    Hoping this complete interview gets released.

  • @cherylspringtime
    @cherylspringtime 10 місяців тому +18

    I got to the point that I could no longer fast and I believe it's because I lost so much muscle fasting and eating super low carb. Now I think it contributed to my blood sugar issues although I'm not diabetic so now I struggle to exercise because my muscles are pitiful. It's hard to come back once you get to this point.

    • @markn5904
      @markn5904 9 місяців тому

      What kind of fasting were you Doing?

    • @stevenxa3956
      @stevenxa3956 8 місяців тому

      I tried fasting last year and it messed up my blood sugars big time. I don't think it's suitable for everyone

  • @ianfraser2009
    @ianfraser2009 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing the video. Keep them coming.

  • @jasonvaughn1658
    @jasonvaughn1658 Рік тому +2

    Great insight and honest reflection.😎
    Thnx Allot!👊

  • @armenalexanian
    @armenalexanian Рік тому +17

    I do a 36 hour water fast Monday and Thursday. I would only consider longer fasts if I were sick. I eat generally healthy and can eat mostly unrestricted now and maintain my weight. Never getting a break from eating sounds like a kind of prison. It was so joyful to realize I don't have to eat every day. I love to eat but I don't have to do it every day.

    • @HH-gv8mx
      @HH-gv8mx Рік тому

      I have been fasting since 10 PM last night. It is now 5 PM. I would like to go for a run as I haven’t exercised in over 48 hours and have been sitting at work. But at the same time I feel lightheaded and weak. I also took berberine after my last meal at 10 PM, I drink some coffee but it just made me feel really shaky and lightheaded. I’m also not producing urine or drinking water like I normally do. Not sure what’s going on but I wish I can fast easily for 24 hours and work out without feeling like this

    • @nancym4049
      @nancym4049 Рік тому +4

      @@HH-gv8mx Are you eating low carb? If your body is used to mainly processing carbs and using glucose for energy, then after you don't eat, it doesn't have an energy source. If you are already fat adapted, then I don't know why you feel that way, but if you're not fat adapted yet, from some time of eating low-carb, then your body learns to switch over to burning fat for energy and you will have a constant fuel supply and won't feel weak. Also maybe more drink more water.

    • @HH-gv8mx
      @HH-gv8mx Рік тому

      @@nancym4049 I drink 90 to 120 ounces of water a day. Plus coffee and green tea. I get my carbs, mostly from fruits and vegetables, but I do eat red grapes every single day, and sometimes other fruits like papaya, watermelon and cantaloupe. Occasionally I’ll have Keffir or Greek yogurt with some berries. But mostly, I eat salads, fish, egg, whites, lots of almonds.
      I thought maybe it was because of low sodium. And also that it’s super hot and humid here in Florida. But I did start my period after my 30 hour fast.

    • @joyabia682
      @joyabia682 7 місяців тому

      ​@@HH-gv8mxlook up snake juice. It's water and sea salt and pottasium chloride and baking soda. It will help with the light headedness n u need to cut caffeine look up Cole Robinson snake diet

  • @frankarcobello3149
    @frankarcobello3149 Рік тому +5

    Great talk, keep it up

  • @Ace-gl7xo
    @Ace-gl7xo 10 місяців тому +2

    Man has one of the most viral videos on YT that advocates fasting. I just hope that kinda number of people watch this video so that they can be reformed and correctly informed as well

  • @Taureanfitness
    @Taureanfitness Рік тому +2

    Wow great interview! I completely agree about there being a huge stigma attached to therapy a good friend of mine who struggles with depression and anxiety has been recommending DBT to help me with my evening disorder I have had pc of it that was helpful but not long and sustained enough to make an impact but I know that this can help me I'm actually working on trying to get into a DBT specific program. I've been in & out of recovery for years & I've noted that my emotional Health instability has been way more important than my physical state as far as functionality and longevity and motivation

  • @HiHereIAm693
    @HiHereIAm693 Рік тому +3

    Interesting points! About therapy: I feel so glad about the fact than so many couples come to me for therapy these days, not because they have conflicts and problems that threaten the relationship, but rather because they want to prevent those, and learn to understand themselves and each other better so that the relationship can flourish 😍😍…

  • @Livelovelaugh684
    @Livelovelaugh684 Рік тому +61

    Huge fan of Dr. Attia. Literally one of the best evidence based authorities in the game. I’m surprised he didn’t go into his pivot away from Keto. Especially on this channel. He used to be a huge advocate, but went away from its claimed benefits around 5-6 years ago or more.

    • @deanallen5567
      @deanallen5567 Рік тому +2

      Try Christopher Gardener for in depth insight on all things nutrition.

    • @WideAwakeHuman
      @WideAwakeHuman Рік тому

      Attia actually has tried to be TOO “evidence based” which is why he has had to change his position on most of those things - as a pharmacist, I knew that healthy people taking metformin was a poor choice, regardless of what the supposed evidence said. Because I balance evidence with some very basic principles about health and nutrition and life in general - one of which is a synthetic pill isn’t going to make a person healthy in the long term (a person that’s already probably in the top 5% of what we consider healthy) and there’s no way we know the downstream effects of a drug like metformin that has very profound effects at a cellular level. I also intuitively knew fasting that much wasn’t a good idea for someone at his level as well as GMO foods being a bad idea.
      I gained a ton on respect for him for being willing to pull himself away from those beliefs eventually, although it took a while, he did it and is open about it which is excellent.

    • @lippylennnox
      @lippylennnox Рік тому

      @David Redman. David, Attia is not an authority on anything, he just scans the internet as you do and quotes endless garbage of endless research studies, his just as lost as any of these diet Guru Doctors on UA-cam, his a quack nothing more.
      On the other hand, real researchers like Dr Donald Layman or Eric Westman, MD have more substance because they treat people with a high-fat, high-protein diet in a clinical setting for over 20 years and with great success too.

    • @kristaG73
      @kristaG73 Рік тому +7

      I don’t think he says it’s “not beneficial.” He has stated he just missed certain things and didn’t want his kids to see him be so fanatical about food. If you’re lean and fit, I don’t think it’s necessary to be “keto” but it’s a great tool in the box to help.

    • @lippylennnox
      @lippylennnox Рік тому +1

      @@kristaG73 Yeah I agree about that mostly, but the question is, as we age how long can we keep lean and fit as our tolerance to carbohydrates gets less with age and natural sarcopenia sets in.

  • @richardscoates6835
    @richardscoates6835 11 місяців тому

    Very good interviewer, listened and amplified, instead of opposing and putting his own knowledge as superior. Good interviewee, as it was concise, fact and experience expertise. We all change our minds if we have better information, he owned it. It was a very useful and easily grasped presentation, professional...thank you.

  • @nas3426
    @nas3426 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for sharing this. I was alway used to think spending extra money on organic food was a bit of a waste. It was good to hear this information 👍🏼

  • @Itzaofficiallyme
    @Itzaofficiallyme Рік тому +20

    I do what works for me. Fasting saved my life, I have great muscle mass and I’ll never stop using fasting protocols.

    • @iluvyunie
      @iluvyunie Рік тому +5

      Same, fasting is one of the few ways I get to employ discipline in my eating and it works wonders.
      I swear food even tastes better when I'm fasted/breaking fast

    • @Utoko
      @Utoko Рік тому +2

      ​@@iluvyunie It does take better your ghrelin and leptin changes, you produce more saliva in anticipation when you are hungry and the psychological factor.

    • @Itzaofficiallyme
      @Itzaofficiallyme Рік тому +1

      @@iluvyunie 🙌🏽

  • @julieallen3372
    @julieallen3372 Рік тому +4

    As a health professionals myself I would like to comment on Peter’s book Outlive. I have read, and studied, hundreds of health publications and many of them are top quality but I particularly want to comment on this book. I came across Peter before covid and while I am a FM practitioner and not a mainstream practitioner, I particularly liked how rigorous Peter delved into science. In Outlive I am enjoying his measured approach about what can ‘reasonably’ concluded, sometimes away from accepted medical norms. In other words, health care needs to progress away from the one size fits all and progress to the lifestyle and multi pronged prevention approach.
    I sincerely hope that medical professionals will read this book and because of Peter’s historical considerations on what can be concluded in science… and what can not, plus his resistance to being swayed by fashion, they will open their medical expertise to the more inclusive approach to treating patients. A top quality read from someone who has written several Heath books and read hundreds. Thank you

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 Рік тому

      Checkout Lustig's _Metabolical_ wide ranging with a focus on metabolic disorder(s). A brilliant takedown of the entire medial 'industry' incl. Drs. 'big pharma', the food industry, medical schools, etc.

    • @shawnryan8802
      @shawnryan8802 Рік тому

      Absolutely! Anyone who believes Glyphosate is a benign compound is not paying attention.Same with unsustainable agricultural.Our micro biome is our health.Period.

  • @Corrans
    @Corrans 4 місяці тому

    Anyone open enough to change their minds and reflect on things deserves respect.

  • @kathiefleming2830
    @kathiefleming2830 Рік тому +1

    Dialectical” means combining opposite ideas. DBT focuses on helping people accept the reality of their lives and their behaviors, as well as helping them learn to change their lives, including their unhelpful behaviors. Cleveland Clinic site states

  • @nelacostabianco
    @nelacostabianco Рік тому +5

    Great interview and insights as usually expected by Peter. Loved the 'dialectical behavioral therapy' component. Can't afford a therapist, wondering if going to confessionals at Catholic church would suffice?

    • @HansenFT
      @HansenFT Рік тому

      You can learn about dbt on your own. And often, newly educated therapists, or ones under training, will do it for free. No one can tell you, with credibility, that "yes! Confession is guaranteed to be enough for you. I know this even if I don't know what your problems are, who exactly you are confessing to, etc etc"

  • @vSwampFox
    @vSwampFox Рік тому +89

    This biggest shock I got from Dr. Attia was his own inability to be flexible. He complained about Keto, keeping him from eating a banana for 3 years. He then used that as an excuse, to say why Keto just wasn’t working.
    Really? You couldn’t find a way to add a banana in your diet for 3 years and Keto is to blame?
    It says a lot more about Dr. Attia than the Keto diet. He’s great, I subscribe to him. But he’s mere human too.

    • @connormurphy7142
      @connormurphy7142 Рік тому +17

      First time I've read a take like this regarding Attia. I always found him so bullish on his takes. He obviously knows what he's talking about to an extent, but I have always found it hard to take on board anything he said seriously.

    • @andreabobbette825
      @andreabobbette825 Рік тому +2

      Interesting observation. Thanks

    • @shrimpkins
      @shrimpkins Рік тому

      Sometimes you need to hire a German dominatrix to jam it down your throat so you don't forget!

    • @deltawhiskey1398
      @deltawhiskey1398 Рік тому +23

      While Attia has a reputation for "evidence based" opinion...Some of his opinions are off center and most certainly not evidence based. For example, you can find plenty of "studies" that say Keto is bad....But the evidence isn't in those studies...the evidence is in the thousands of people who have healed themselves from chronic disease with Keto and Carnivore. The "studies" say one thing...but the "evidence" says something quite different.

    • @markaguilera493
      @markaguilera493 Рік тому +6

      ​@@deltawhiskey1398Studies look at large swathes of population. Your "evidence" is anecdotal, which doesn't mean it's false, but that those who benefit from fringe diets are actually outliers. Therefore they don't work on a large scale.

  • @umka7536
    @umka7536 Рік тому

    Great content. It is always useful how thinking minds reflect on the themselves and update their knowledge and practices.

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 Рік тому

    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this, Thomas.

  • @TheCeo_
    @TheCeo_ Рік тому +16

    He’s so convincing. Always liked him. But he changes his mind a lot. We won’t really know if he knows what he’s talking about till he does or doesn’t make it to old age. Let’s hope he does of course.

    • @AKhan0372
      @AKhan0372 Рік тому +11

      " changes his mind a lot ? " you should change your mind after you see new information that contradicts your opinions.

    • @vSwampFox
      @vSwampFox Рік тому

      I know what you mean. He and Lane Norton both have changed many things they’ve preached before. Things that others in the fitness world have BEEN saying and never changed b/c the science is applied correctly.
      Dr. Attia is an extremist that applies that attitude to everything he does. You can hear it in his statements. He’s stern, this is the way it is, nothing outside the lines. Then when he burns out, he changes his mind, and makes light of what he just got finish promoting.

  • @hremaddox
    @hremaddox Рік тому +4

    Thank you!

  • @Marshadow69
    @Marshadow69 Рік тому +2

    Re Glyphosate, I am compelled to the views of Stephanie Seneff, particularly the effect of glyphosate on the microbiome and the way in which glyphosate interferes in the body's use of glycine, resulting in the failure of our bodies to properly metabolize sulfur, which in turn interferes in the structuring of water, and the production of cholesterol sulphate.

  • @ougoah
    @ougoah Рік тому +1

    Fantastic concise interview.

  • @jmh8510
    @jmh8510 Рік тому +32

    When all is said and done: my grandmother smoked unfiltered cigarettes, ate a horrible diet and died at 97…and only bc she fell and got depressed. For the most part she was plain happy. All this micro managing every molecule of food, fasting, etc = focusing on SELF. Self, self….when it seems that if you live to serve others your life will expand and you’ll live longer. We all hear of the athletes who did all the “right” things, perfect diet who died while jogging.

    • @omarsoulay4764
      @omarsoulay4764 Рік тому +4

      Yep train your heart with lovepower. You cant fast from people and socializing.

    • @yoya4766
      @yoya4766 Рік тому +1

      So you serve others to extend your OWN life. And that's not think about self self self???

    • @omarsoulay4764
      @omarsoulay4764 Рік тому +1

      @@yoya4766 did you ask your mother why she had you? Pretty selfish too right? We're all selfish.

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 Рік тому

      @@yoya4766 The help to oneself is not the focus, it's just a by-product. I'm pretty sure JM's grandmother did not have herself in mind or expected that helping others would extend her own life. Or are you just being a smart-ass, in which case, well played, Yo.

    • @TInyK12
      @TInyK12 Рік тому +4

      Realize that some folks are genetic anomalies

  • @jeffreyjohnson7359
    @jeffreyjohnson7359 Рік тому +42

    Brad Stanfield has also changed his mind on fasting based on the recent evidence. I still do some fasting, although not as much as before, because I find it useful for my blood sugar and calorie restriction.

    • @lippylennnox
      @lippylennnox Рік тому +16

      @Jeffrey Johnson The human body is NOT designed to eat frequently, one good meal a day is enough for anyone, provided that meal contains good quality animal flesh and organ meats especially. People that eat frequently like bodybuilders to increase anabolism are more at risk of cancer and diabetes than those that eat 2 meals a day max(no snacking)
      because MTOR can also stimulate cancer cells.
      Nature is amazing, in times of less availability of food, it gives you hormones to make you survive and be more alert and agile, when you eat too much it releases bad stuff in your blood that is actually making you sick, nature does that in all animals to cut down the population and it does it with Humans too. It is good to feel real hunger, you will enjoy your meal much more!99.9% of people in the Western world are actually OVER FED and that's why they are sick, they might look muscular and healthy outside but on the inside, no one knows.

    • @jeffreyjohnson7359
      @jeffreyjohnson7359 Рік тому +5

      @@lippylennnox
      It doesn't really matter what people think the body is designed for, or what they think primitive humans did, it matters what the current scientific evidence shows, especially interventional studies. They don't look great for fasting right now, but it definitely works for some people. It works to some degree for me.
      It also shows that the diets with the best health outcomes are predominantly plants, although they don't have to be exclusively plants.

    • @Elgringo2180
      @Elgringo2180 Рік тому +7

      @@jeffreyjohnson7359 it doesn’t matter what science decided is good for the body now. Hundreds of years of different generations fasting and showing the benefits of it prove otherwise.

    • @Elgringo2180
      @Elgringo2180 Рік тому +4

      @@lippylennnox The human body is NOT designed to eat mostly meat but a variety of food, mostly plant based with some meat involved.

    • @lippylennnox
      @lippylennnox Рік тому +3

      @@jeffreyjohnson7359 It depends on what you call fasting, true fasting I would say is no food for at least 48-72 hours or more and native people do frequently go without food for those lengths of time, native people don't have the luxury of catching meat every day, it is very hard long and laborious as for plant foods having the best outcomes, well Native people do eat plants but ONLY when they don't have meat or for added water or simple sugars to give them energy, they don't use them for nutrition at all.
      scientific evidence, well now as you can see that frequently changes, even so-called Quacks like Attia can change their minds several times. I prefer to trust native peoples that learned from their parents and fellow tribespeople for thousands of years.

  • @tomj7382
    @tomj7382 Рік тому

    Yes, yes, yes.. thank you. Finally catching up to what I think which is saying something bc he was way ahead of me years before I thought about any of this.

  • @thaddeus722
    @thaddeus722 5 місяців тому +1

    Whenever someone changes their mind on something they were so adamant about, and often arrogantly so, I always think: if you were wrong about that, what are you wrong about currently? I'm looking forward to him changing his mind about the " high LDL is causal of atherosclerosis"

  • @amhawk8742
    @amhawk8742 Рік тому +3

    What I find amazing is that he consider 10-12 hours weekly to be a "low" level of exercise 😂 I'd consider myself very fit as a recreational athlete only training 9 hours a week: 2 hours high-intensity kickboxing, 4.5 hours moderate-intensity MMA & taekwondo, 1 hour stretching weekly, as well as 15 minutes minutes of high intensity resistance training daily. I really don't think it takes that much time to build foundational strength. I started working out during lockdowns in 2020 and was only doing 10 minutes of high-intensity resistance training daily. I still built a 2.5x bodyweight deadlift and had decent cardio and flexibility. Just don't want anyone to hear this and freak out cuz they think they might not be doing enough. Start small and progressively overload each component of fitness and eventually you'll make some gains. Keep at it!

  • @noybeeswax
    @noybeeswax Рік тому +12

    I see all the comments. Chill, he’s saying ‘he doesn’t fast anymore,’ and he’s in pretty good shape. If you’re clinically obese and not fit, but determined to be so, fasting is an incredible tool. I started alternate day fasting and I f feel fantastic. This is 4 years after I originally did 16:8 and that seems to not longer work for me. If you reach your physical fitness goal, and maintain that fitness, you probably don’t need to fast.

    • @TracieClaiborne
      @TracieClaiborne Рік тому

      How do you eat on your eating days?

    • @noybeeswax
      @noybeeswax 10 місяців тому +1

      High protein / low carb. No processed foods and no foods infused with processed sugar. Naturally occurring sugars in some veggies is of course just fine, but absolutely nothing with processed White Sugar, brown sugar, can sugar etc.

    • @Stormie33
      @Stormie33 6 місяців тому

      If you believe fasting is nothing but a weight loss tool, then sure, there's no point in fasting if you're in good health. It is far more than that though.

  • @samieramohamed2467
    @samieramohamed2467 Рік тому +2

    Many blind spots of not relaxing. Buddhism can help to relax the chattering thinking mind. Simple but not easy . Why therapists to talk to?There is a big hole in this life style and needs learning from traditional cultures not clinical controlled trials mostly wrong. Each being is unique so how studying a group can help? In my medical practice, was modifying treatment advice to each patient. Patients we’re great teachers . Feedback is good. Learn from listeners, be humble. We are nothing in 50 years after death.( Marcus Areulus in book meditation free on you tube). God blessings for all .We all needed it .

  • @nitro200flyer3
    @nitro200flyer3 Рік тому +12

    I'm 62 YO I have been 18 to 22 hours fasting almost daily for over 5 years, I've gone from 272 lbs to 150 and maintained within 5 lbs for 5 years ( I'm 5'8" ) Muscle growth? any more and I would be accused of steroid use for sure I'm not a gym rat small home gym only 3 days a week for a few hours. I started on Keto 2016 then Keto-vore and now 13 months of strict 99.9 % carnivore mostly grass fed/finished ruminant animals + Coffee and a mixed drink (zevia and rum) now and then on a special occasion. BUT WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT!

    • @shelfcloud487
      @shelfcloud487 Рік тому

      Holy crap! Good job! I’m 57 and started IF in 2019. I went from around 240 down to 185 and maintained it. I’ve worked out damn near daily the entire time as well. I lift 4x a week and do mild cardio the other 2 days. I’ve got my workouts down to under 30 minutes from upwards of 2 hours in the beginning. At 5’6” I’m fairly lean and muscular, but I don’t think anyone would consider me on steroids. I’m not on TRT or any medication. I’d be anorexic at 150lbs. I have lifted on and off since I was 13 so I’m pretty much back in my normal shape that I achieve each time I start up again.

    • @aquamarine99911
      @aquamarine99911 Рік тому +1

      Attia's talking about stopping long term, multi-day fasts. That's what was causing loss of lean mass, not 18/6 or whatever you do.
      But your last sentence nailed it. We are all different. I'm sure Attia has been carefully measuring these things and worked out what's best for him. As should we all.

    • @shelfcloud487
      @shelfcloud487 Рік тому +1

      @@aquamarine99911 But even so, he said something like, he lost 10lbs in 3 years. Really? That’s your concern? (Not you, him) To only lose only 10lbs in 3 years while doing that much fasting doesn’t sound that concerning to me. But hey, that’s just my opinion. I don’t do multiple day fasts so I’m not defending them and I don’t think the OP of this comment was arguing for or against multiple day fasts either, just stating his experience.

    • @aquamarine99911
      @aquamarine99911 Рік тому +1

      @@shelfcloud487 10 lb of LEAN MASS is a big fricken deal as we age. Think of it like saving for retirement. The point is to stockpile as much lean mass as possible before we get elderly (when it becomes very easy to lose muscle and very hard to add muscle), and can draw on our reserves until we die,

    • @shelfcloud487
      @shelfcloud487 Рік тому +1

      @@aquamarine99911 Like I said, I’m not promoting nor do I do multiple day fasts, but if that’s his evidence, it’s pretty weak. Sounds like a few minor adjustments is all that’s necessary. I’m 57 and I’ve been doing 18/6 IF for 4 years and just started a 40 hour fast every Saturday. 15 weeks in a row now. My weight hasn’t budged. I workout daily and try to eat well, high protein/low carb, and I was expecting something a little more dramatic than 10lbs in 3 years with such an extreme regimen. Not many people are going to follow that strict of a routine so it’s really a non-issue for the most part. Do you get what I’m saying? Hell, I’m 5’6” and I weigh 185lbs. I have more than enough muscle to lose according to your argument. Just sayin’.

  • @serge2698
    @serge2698 Рік тому +18

    Probably prolong fasting when you’re lean may consume under used muscle but for most of us with body fat and some excess loose skin (from weight loss), loss of muscle is probably not a concern. I lost 80 lbs doing keto and 3-5 days water fasting once a month and i still have lots of muscle strength. I could probably lose another 10-20 lbs (of fat and skin) before my body would need to resort to consuming my muscles.

  • @3mc33Rizox
    @3mc33Rizox Рік тому

    Its a blessing Peter Attia touring around all the fitness and lifestyle channels and podcasts in the last two months. In this interview mentions regenerative agriculture which is something I didnt heard him speaking about in other outlets. Im curious about which books is he reading. I’ll probably be interested in reading them myself.

  • @margaretskinner1416
    @margaretskinner1416 Рік тому

    Glad to hear you have come to understand regenerative farming. Our souils are destroyed and must be rehabilitated. Thankyou for changing your mind.. bless you.

  • @allenknap1
    @allenknap1 Рік тому +2

    Glyphosate was thought to be safe to use because the shikimate pathway is found only in plants, fungi and bacteria. However, glyphosate has a strong impact on bacterial species in the human microbiome, and several recent studies have shown that damage in the human gut microbiome are connected to many diseases.

    • @kedabro1957
      @kedabro1957 Рік тому

      I read somewhere that genetics is such a dominant factor that even perfect habits can only increase our lifespan by 10 years.

  • @Dan-iy8ig
    @Dan-iy8ig Рік тому +9

    I learned that I don't need to listen to Peter Attia. He's behind me in his knowledge on topics at least on this interview and he's no more of a health expert than most people in this thread.

    • @eugeniebreida1583
      @eugeniebreida1583 Рік тому

      Agreed.

    • @victoriaboster1177
      @victoriaboster1177 Рік тому

      Um unless you can pull out your medical degree and post doc fellowship my guess would be you’re simply the idiot at the bar yelling at the tv in the middle of the afternoon on a weekday with nothing better to do.

  • @beverleycumming1876
    @beverleycumming1876 Рік тому

    Everyone has to find there comfort level…we all can change up our routines as we progress or experience our own personal issues…being mindful of flexibility and readjustment

  • @IAMNOSLEEP
    @IAMNOSLEEP Рік тому

    Great discussion. Thanks for sharing. Cheers.

  • @CashMoneyMoore
    @CashMoneyMoore Рік тому +10

    Good stuff, regenerative agg is indeed a big deal and it's one reason why ruminative meat is so healthy. They're such heavy hitters in regenerating soil

    • @Vbe796
      @Vbe796 Рік тому

      Can you explain more about this?

    • @CashMoneyMoore
      @CashMoneyMoore Рік тому

      @@Vbe796 The book sacred cow goes into great detail, Nick Offerman voiced the documentary they made about it which is fantastic too

  • @graememudie7921
    @graememudie7921 Рік тому +7

    I haven’t eaten breakfast in 2 years. Usually only eat 1 or 2 meals a day.
    I have been doing Keto for 2 years and started carnivore on March 17th 2023. I am feeling absolutely amazing. Joint pains are gone, and I no longer need to go to the chiropractor. Indigestion is gone as well. I started doing press-ups, and in the first week, I did 35 per day, which was 5 more than I usually do. I have steadily increased the number every day and did 70 a few days ago! I can't believe it!
    What I added was boron, which was suggested by one of the many doctors I follow on UA-cam. That took it to another level. I am 67 years young and will never eat vegetables again. No carbs, absolutely no carbs. I have not put sugar in my coffee or tea for at least 40 years.
    Another effect of this diet is that the plaque on my teeth has completely gone. After about a week, I could feel it coming off, a very strange sensation. Additionally, I no longer have bleeding gums. I only take thyroxine for my underactive thyroid. I hope to get off of it over the next year on this diet.

    • @skippy6462
      @skippy6462 Рік тому

      Jackanory 😂

    • @pearljam_1
      @pearljam_1 Рік тому

      It’s probably your enamel coming off

  • @richsandness5409
    @richsandness5409 Рік тому

    Awesome! Very insightful, & "Interesting" to me.
    I Love [appreciate & value] the candor & "Transparency" of some who have gone thru the intensity of their diverse "Journeys," (so to speak), and "come out on the other side" or essentiay in the
    "Eureka Zone" of it all, and to too honestly share with others, who have not gone their route, and perhaps never well.
    "Perspective" in sharing one another's experience (in unselfish motives) can be elucidating, motivating, (and thankfully) mutually beneficial.

  • @GoldSilverBack168
    @GoldSilverBack168 Рік тому

    Great to see and hear this!

  • @dyonne79
    @dyonne79 Рік тому +6

    I got tons of benefits from water fasting. I will stick to it occasionally. 72 hours/week.