Masterfuly written character. "Master Mirror" as his nickname says - really works here. He is a mirror of every character he is talking to - he was kind and caring while talking with Shani, Evil and arrogant with Olgierd, and straight to the point and neutral with Geralt.
You. You just made me realize who the fuck gaunter is. He is not god. Not reflection of god. Not fucking satan. Not embodiment of evil(tho the 2nd most likely case). He is the reflection. He is the MIRROR. He is the reflection of every person he talks to.
" Do you really wish to know?" " Yes" " No, Geralt. You don't." This was always the most memorable dialogue exchange in this massive game. You can really hear the honesty in his voice, he's not fucking around
@@spectralassassin6030 that was exactly what I see, even more with the debug cam, I pause the game and I moved the cam, it is confirmed that he doesn't look at geralt at his right side, but look right at our gamer view 👀
CuriousPersianCat Last guy who tried to dig up dirt on him ended up blind in the process. How is Geralt gonna complete Olgierds tasks as a blind man (or worse. Shakelock didnt even learn his real name either...)? O'dimm is not "kind", just see's an unfavorable outcome in that one deal.
CuriousPersianCat He doesn’t seem to have an interest in people he thinks of as “Good”. If you notice he goes after people who he sees as being wicked. And he can apparently tell at glance to some extent, but prefers to see it first hand. The woman in Beuclaire who who was vain and chased off “a beggar” who only asked for food comes to mind. Which makes me wonder about the man with the spoon in his eye...
What i love about him, is that he never, at any point in time, was dishonest about anything he did, provided, or sought after. He barley even twisted his wording that much; all he did was exploit the hell out of every little loop hole.
A lie of Omission is still dishonest and lying. Gaunter O'Dimm does a whole lot of Omitting when Geralt was asked to be set free he didn't know how he was going to be freed and that he would still have to fight for his life to be free. O'Dimm did not mention that if Gearlt accepted the deal he would be branded. Thats just the tip of the ice berg. If you intentionally allow people to hold false expectations about yourself or a situation you are lying by omission . I'm not saying that not spilling everything when you meet someone is a lie but if your are purposefully hiding something to deceive someone thats a lie.
@@armandomendez9249 imagine that most humans on the planet are ants, building, breaking, trying to survive other insects. In this analogy, the elder vampire is a ant eater And mister mirror is a human with a shotgun
@@turino1289 I would like to think he's the most skilled of all men. In all manners, from sword to pen, and anything in between. Would kill the ant eater with a pen, but would prolly swindle it out of its fur, skin, teeth and eyes first.
I think people miss the true significance of Gaunter killing the drunk by quite a lot. Yes its a chilling moment and all, but more importantly, it means that he can indeed kill at a whim, and that he is not bound by any cosmic rule that he cant directly act against mortals. He does not HAVE to honor his contracts, he chooses to. In other words, his rules are self imposed, and even though he wont, he could indeed choose to just kill you at any time. A lot of devil figures in mythology are constrained by the laws of God or the gods, and CANT just slaughter humans, hence the need for deception. This is not the case here.
I doubt that Gaunther isn't forced to honor his deals. He seems to get banished against his will in the "Good" ending. Also, it's a common thing in European folklore that incredible powerful beings are bound to honor their word, whether they want to or not. The fact that he can murder the drunk has no bearing on that, it's not like he made a pact with the drunk that he not kill him.
To be fair, we can't be 100% sure whether or not he can just kill on a whim, or that some external criteria was met for him to be able to kill this guy. Also, we don't know if he could just destroy the world if he wanted too, or if there are other restrictions he has, he could also have to honour a deal once he's made it. And better yet(which is more of a personal theory tbh), he might not be as powerful as he lets on. I personally think that this entire scene is just an illusion, and gaunter himself tells Olgeird to meet you. Sure, he's displayed that he can teleport, and can even grant some wishes, but does he really do anything that wouldn't be possible in some way via magic? From memory I don't think he does. Also obviously there is the possibility of him being some form of djinn or something. To me, the name, the devils deals, the pointed demon like ears, the appearance at his death, etc. Are all way too on the nose for me to take it seriously. I think he is either pretty powerful but extremely restricted or is actually nowherr near as powerful as he lets on but he instead uses his intelligence and power to deceive people into thinking he's far more powerful than he actually is.
I think it's a case where he both chooses to stick to the rules, but is also forced to do so at the same time. Because if he didn't stick to his own rules, he would get bored *very* quickly, with nothing to do in a world full of creatures so far beneath him that it would drive him insane. Like when you handicap yourself in a game to make it more fun. Nuzlockes in pokemon being a prime example.
@@Da1337Man You've sidesteped the meaning of Choice vs Compulsion. If your not doing something because you recognize that it violates an abstract concept thats called choosing not to do it. Your using logic to dicern if something would be a bad choice or not, and then deciding against it. If I look at a massive cliff and think "I shouldn't jump because there will be negative consequences." That isnt the cliff compelling me to not jump.
Dude. The guy he killed just wanted to buy Geralt a drink. Judging by his posture, he's probably a bit drunk as it is and likely doesn't have any ulterior motives and just wants a drinking buddy. In conclusion, O'Dimm really is evil.
Naaa fuck that...comes outta nowhere wanting me to drink shit.... interrupting my business...and I specifically told your ass no.... Kill the f****for not taking no for an answer..... Also...I'm pretty sure he's interrupted O'dimm before hand... hince "that's the last time you interrupt me"
I believe we all know who he is but we all wanted to at least hear him say it what or who he is even if we know already in our imagination we all believe he is even something more evil than the devil x3
@@harisdaglar3542 Gaunter is our reflection. Look how he treat people. Bad people gets in trouble. Neutal Geralt and good heart Shani were treat just like who they are.
I love how much he progresses in flaunting his abilities as the story goes on. He starts off pretty tame and cryptic. "I called upon my many talents and associates to give him what he desired" referring to giving Olgierd his immortality. By the end he's stopping time and walking on air as if they were stairs.
I started another playthrough of W3 recently, he is one of the first characters you talk to at the Inn in White Orchard at the very start of the game. Legitimately freaked me out because I didn't remember him from the Inn at all when I first played through Hearts of Stone. Designed to be forgettable, but he's evil incarnate. The developers hid him in the background of the populace all over the game too. He's always there, watching you in plain sight... Just like the devil would be
Same here. I had completely forgotten all about him by the time I had met him again on the ship. I had to search for the first encounter with him at the inn right here on UA-cam. It was only then that I remembered him. Pretty clever how they did that.
I think what makes him even more frightening is that he isn't, in his own nature, "evil" per se. It's the desires of the mortal that gives him his ideas. If people were more kind and less selfish his power would wain, and yet, he is presumed to be the most powerful entity in the lore. Another example of humans being the true monsters.
Being around Gaunter makes you feel like you have to choose your words wisely or better not speak at all. Notice how he actually had Geralt commit a wish. Also the fact that he snatches some glances to the player when he is speaking. Freaking Gaunter O'Dimm a very spicy fellow or whatever he is.
Did u guys notice that no one seems to pay any attention to him when he is sitting on the table. Like no one else sees him except Geralt... It could be that he can watch u for a long time with out being noticed unless he wants you to notice him. Could be that he exists beyond time and space.
There is a dude on YT who made a video .. seems like O Dimm was in the background of lots of cutscenes. The ones where you do the tasks. He's spying on you. Check it out it's pretty creepy.
@@blindgamer3463 He can, he at first just siad what difference does it make, and when Geralt insisted that it makes big one he siad that he does control time" time always fascinated me so i thought myself how to control it"
I love the fact that the developers had it so that when he says "No Geralt. You dont." when you ask him who he really is, he isnt looking at Geralt, hes looking at the camera. It genuinly gives me chills, the idea that he has started talking to us, even if its just for a breif second.
This is the kind of characters they must never use again, they are meant to be left in the shadows of mistery, they should only use him for easter eggs like they did in Blood and Wine
Can i just say i am a little obsessed with this character right now . He exudes charisma , intelligence and wit , yet at the same time his presence always carries a certain feeling of menace , that you can feel looming on the horizon . A deeply sophisticated entity , that rarely uses his immense power to take advantage of the situation , but always presents his points in a logical , even philosophical and honest kind of way . Like a chess player at his finest . Not only is he immensely powerful but extremely knowledgeable as well . He commands respect and admiration . I was always taken aback by his conversations , so menacing , frightening yet so charismatic and intelligent , that you can't help but admire him , or at the very least respect his way of thinking
Yup I hate when people say he should come back in another game. If he did it would ruin the character. I wouldn’t mind Easter eggs here or there but that should be it. He’s such a well written character because of the ambiguity and sparing use of him, take that away and he’d just become another “evil spirit” character.
I like how Geralt's sarcasm with the "time" vs. "thyme" wordplay makes the player low-key realize that the wishes had a deadly semantic clause if one wasn't careful, like we find out later with Olgierd when he fails to realize the very same semantics of how he worded his wishes. It also shows us that Geralt realized this early on.
"No, Geralt.. you don't. This one time I shall spare you and not grant your wish." If you listen you can hear the music pick up to a shrill, frightening tone at that moment. The mask of "Gaunter O'Dimm" falls away and something frightening is talking to Geralt; something old, evil and predatory. I love how we get glimpses into his true nature in moments like these, and how even after ALL this time there is still speculation as to what Gaunter is - the pagan devil? (G)aunter (O)'(D)imm? Evil incarnate? The reflection of mankind's evil? All speculation, and yet enough evidence that each is plausible from a certain point of view. *That* is how you write a good villain, folks.
If you notice, after both times he stops time, someone says the word "devil" afterwards. Combined with all the freaky shit he does and the implication he's not from the Witcher universe, I like to think he's actually -the- Satan
Its obvious he is supposed to be the witcher equivilent to the devil. His name gives it away "Gaunter O'Dimm Master of Mirrors" which could also be called "GOD's Reflection" or "Reflection of GOD".
Hes based off Walter O'Dimm from the Dark Tower series, who is an exceedingly cunning human sorcerer who tricks people into thinking hes God, but is not. He gives much the same reasons when asked why he uses fake names, but the real reason is that he can only be killed by someone who knows his true name. Now, since the rules for human magic users are very clearly laid out in the Witcher books, so Gaunter is clearly not a human pretending to be stronger than he is like Walter was, but based off his source of inspiration I really don't think hes God or Gods shadow or whichever. The core of both characters is that they trick people, rely on deception and Faustian bargains. Him being God because of how his name is spelled is to obvious.
@@GrimgoreIronhide Well there are rules of magic for sure, but you can always go around them... like you could for example make a spell focus which will drain place of power of magic and store the energy... just like a dragon or a cat would do... and then use it. then again - witcher signs compared to power it uses are masterful spells. in fact the effect quen or aard achieves compared to magic energies exerted is tremendous. most wizzards are not this efficient. They use wands trinkets staves... and yes he is based on this character however he actually is very powerful extradimensional being... one which actually wants Geralt alive because he fucking wants Ciri to stop white frost... (that would destroy even him)
@@Paerigos Everything you have said is true, but I'm not quite sure what point your trying to make. My argument was that since the character he is based off frequently tries to trick people into thinking he's God when he's not, concluding that Gaunter is God based off vauge hints he's dropped is absurd. The entire point of Walter O Dimm is that he's a charlatan. Gaunter O Dimm is as well, even if he happens to have more real power than his litterary inspiration.
@@GrimgoreIronhide I think your missing a key factor though, gearlt ask him if he is a mage and he says no, so clearly not. I think he is a mix between the devil and god. I don't think they are different people in the Witcher universe, no sorrcesor takes souls. And also you can see this more when playing the the blood and wine dlc, won't ruin it if you haven't
He has an interesting face too. He doesn´t stand out, he appears friendly and a bit naive at times, but he can be also very scary. I was really surprised how much he stalked me in the game and also on YT (seriously, I´ve seen so many accounts with his face)
As I was playing through this whole story I was suspicious of what Gaunter actually was, but part of me still didn't want to fully believe it. I kept looking for logical explanations of all that he was capable of. It wasn't until I saw this scene that my suspicions were beyond confirmed. As the reality dawned on me I became frightened and sick...This is a fucking videogame. This is the best story I've ever played in a game. From beginning to end I thought I knew but had know idea.
@@Da1337Man LOL I didn't realize after all this time I never said what I thought he actually was. I believe he is a powerful demon/demi-god to be precise.
@@HerosTheme I think it finally dawned on me *what* he truly is. Everyone keeps saying he's a literal reflection of whoever he talks to, but its much more than that. Yes he is the reflection of all of us. But that also includes the parts of ones self that most people refuse to acknowledge, the part of yourself that people bury so deeply in their own subconscious, that to be confronted by it would guarantee certain madness. Some cultures believe that the subconscious is the truest core of our being, and some people just wouldn't even know how to begin to respond to such a revelation, that there are aspects to your own personality that even you yourself don't know about.
Gaunter O'Dimm always put a chill down my Spine when playing Heart of Stone, even Blood and Wine with the Wight you turn back to an old lady, that was O'Dimm's doing as you can tell by how she describes the person who puts the curse on her and of course, the exact same haunting music. One of the best written villains in games/films. Never read the books, I wonder if he makes an appearance in the Witcher Books?
Its very impressive cd project mange to create a villain better than all villains of books and novels of the Witcher combined i always thought the story telling in novel was better until i played hearts of stones
In certain folklore, first it is said that demon never reveal their true name because it can be used to cast them back to hell or any damnation place. So because it prove as his vulnerability, no wonders he'll make sure anyone who will speak his true name will be ill fated. Second, mirrors are also known as a catalyst for a demon or any other world creature to use as a portal to travel between worlds. Even now it still believed that you cannot placed a mirror in certain position in your house ex: on the wall in parallel of stairs, etc because of the things above. So my theory is Gaunter used the pseudonym master of mirrors or mirror merchant maybe because he's a demon/devil gatekeeper of the other world.
Man I keep forgetting that this is literally one of the first characters you meet in this game, basically gives you your main lead and sets up the hearts of stone dlc later in the game perfectly
Theory 1: Gaunter O'Dimm is a being who became self-aware that it exists in a fictional world of a video game. Slowly, it started to learn how the inner mechanisms of a "video game" works. It abused the game's code to grant itself supernatural powers and started to torment other digital beings for its own amusement. It became a tyrannical God of its own little world of computer generated graphics. That's why he looked at the player at 2:53. It knows that there's a physical person sitting behind the screen, controlling the game's narrative. Theory 2: It's the game's canonical devil. That's it.
0:50 I love it how at this point Geralt is used to all the magic and shenanigans that in the face of time stoping all he can say is "show off" as of course he isn't surprised.
I just noticed something. Gaunter O'Dimm is aware of us. He looks directly at the camera several times. To let us know that he's fully aware of our presence. Terrifying.
"Geralt, there are 4 dimensions - length, width, height and time. What would you have me fall in love with ? Width ?" Very good choice of words from Gaunter because controlling length and height can be quite funny.
Even Geralt looks a little terrified when he just walks over and shoves the spoon into the mans head. Nothing he could do, and if Geralt were in that mans place he would be just as screwed. For once Geralt met something that he was comically outmatched by.
2:52 he looks directly at the player, not at Geralt. When I saw it for the first time, I was sweating all over, my heart was pounding with fear, and my whole body was covered with goosebumps.
2:42 THAT exchange alone was a massive indication. And the look he gives while he basically tells Geralt, “No, I won’t grant your wish this time Geralt. You really don’t want to know who I am”.. CHILLING.. and then how he effortlessly kills that drunk dude, before he leaves. Shoved a goddamn wooden spoon inside his eye socket while he was frozen in time. Lmao Yeh, he is HIM. The one with no name. Or with millions of names. He exists in every world, in every religion. Brilliantly done, and bone chilling
I played this pack after getting a course of contract law and the developers makes lots of great reference here. Also in one side quest in novigrad, you help a merchant and find a doppler. There geralt makes references to basics of economics. The details are amazing
Gaunter has some serious Lovecraft vibes. And he is a lot like a certain Outer God who goes by the name of Nyarlathotep. It's scary how similar both Nyarlathotep and Gaunter are as both are the archetypes of the Devil in their respective mythos. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Gaunter O' Dimm was an avatar of Nyarlathotep
Something particularly creepy. At 2:53 when he is answering Geralt about what he is, he is no longer looking at Geralt. He is looking at the camera. At you, the player. Telling you that you don’t want to know who and what he is.
What I love about this is that it shows you how dangerous he actually is. He's not bound by any laws really. He killed a random person just because he was annoyed by him. The whole deal with the devil thing is just him being bored.
And he isn't like the Jenny's (originally arab myths) they should guarantee ur wishes as long its not against the 7 rules but o dimm didn't take geralt wish of knowing his true truth but spared him
I never heard that those that have seen the devil automatically die or suffer a fate worse than death. He said it as this was beyond his volition. He could be lying of course, but what difference would it make for him? Gerald knows that Gaunther is absolutely OP and there's no way in hell that he could defeat him in a fight. Moreover, the contract is basically fulfilled at this point, so that even if Gerald didn't like the answer it wouldn't be a disadvantage. Lastly, it would make not much sense to warn people of him, because he'll probably come in different disguises and there will be always enough desperate men and fools.
One of his names is "Master Mirror." And what does a mirror do but reflect your image. Like the man said, he gives people what they wish, not what they need. That their wishes are poorly thought and reflect...poorly on them is not his fault. If you think about the people he has hurt (through contract or curse) and who they were, what they did, he did not harm nice, good people. Just those who had it coming. Like a mr Morden once said, "i guess i just tried to make people happy."
I wonder if Gaunter O'Dimm is meant to be an elder one akin to Lovecraft. In Lovecraft's stories anyone who finds the true nature of the cosmic outer gods goes insane or they die from the shock which is what Gaunter warned Geralt if Geralt found out what he truly is. Gauter O'Dimm may be a Lawful Evil version of Nyarlathotep.
Elder ones don't give a cr*p about humans though. Only Nyarlathotep does, but he is an outer God not an Elder One, he DOES tangentially fit O'Dimm's character though.
i just realized that now but....the drunk guy actually wanted to buy geralt a drink not ask him for it, he genuinely wanted companionship and to buy a witcher a drink and have a chat that fact somehow makes gaunter killing him so much worse to me lol
Feels like an evil genie of some sort. Grants 3 wishes, dlc has middle eastern garb and swords, sand mage you fight off the boat. Somewhere they also went demon route with him. Since he never explicity states he isn't a djinn or a demon, it's possible he's both.
Mann, that peasant is such an endangered specie. Offering a mutant a drink upon seeing one.
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The way he uses his words is dangerously tricky. "Do you really WISH to know?" Notice how he rarely uses the word "want" but he always purposely emphasize the word "WISH" every time he speaks to someone. Every moment you talk to him can easily be turned into an "oral contract" and "blood pact" without you even realizing it.
It's difficult to pinpoint "what" he is, but whatever he is, he holds up a mirror to humanity. How does he stop time though? Is it just due to the accumulated souls he's gathered over time? Why does he want these souls in the first place. What made him decide to grant wishes. He doesn't act like a djinn or even a demon. He likes his contracts but doesn't seem particularly beholden to them. It's more like a game he's playing
I think he is supposed to be The Witcher's universe Devil, as in Satan/Lucifer. The Original Fallen. Look up Goethe's Faust or Marlowe's Doctor Faustus: the antagonist in these plays is The Devil, and he works with contracts for human souls, etc. It also reminded me a bit of Devil's Advocate with Al Pacino or Angelheart with Robert De Niro. Two amazing films. The writers of the game also mostly took inspiration from a Polish folklore tale called Pan Twardowski, written around the same time as Doctor Faustus (1500's or so).
@@marconeves1979 sorry for my bad english: I think like in most of religions, in the witcher universe the "soul" belongs to god. So in this case Gaunter can kill anyone without restriction, but he can't take his prize and therefore he needs the contracts
We should have a game about Gaunter O'Dimm and you play as him. All the quests about granting everyone's wishes and then breaking their little hearts sounds like fun. Sinister grin. :)
Fun, but incredibly difficult to gameify and program. How do you balance a challenge when the character you're playing as is virtually omnipotent? Besides, part of what makes O'Dimm so engaging is that he's mysterious. The answer he gives Geralt in this scene as to his true nature was the best one the writers could have come up with; the answer you provide with your subconscious and curiosity is perfectly tailored to your particular sensibilities. Having a concrete answer about Gaunter O'Dimm's nature would be showing the shark.
So Gaunter O'Dimm acts like a god in the sense he grants people's "wishes" or prayers. However, the trick to him is that unlike a traditional God is that the moment he grants people's wishes he gain control over their lives. Interesting how CDPR takes the traditional things and flips them on their head in this game.
Look. I love cdpr. But can you stop giving them Praise for things they didnt even create? The witcher's entirety is based around taking fairy tales and flipping them on their tails. Especially the books is based around this idea. Cdpr simply followed the author's vision.
@@winstonchurchill7822 Which is still a massive accomplishment, taking existing narratives and reinterpreting them in a way that allows you to seamlessly weave them into an existing overarching story of your own making.
Honestly, Gaunter seems more like an eldritch horror type of satan. Not the original rebellious Satan, but a being that treats you exactly how you treat others, a being that is a manifestation of "Reaping what thy sow", but just like the Devil, he also make contracts for his personal gains. It's like the moment he interacts with you, he starts to reflect your spirit like a mirror.
to be fair, that part of the "oral contract" that Go'D quoted could have been formulated much better. In this wording quoted here, there was PLENTY of space allowed for Geralt to counter-argue that "nono, it actually means..." :D
Every time I’ve played this game and seen him sitting in that tavern in White Orchard, I’m like, “I see you over there, you SOB.” Lol. By far the most memorable character in this entire game. They carefully crafted him from appearance to voice actor.
"What the Devil??", very well placed line here. Honestly, Master Mirror Gaunter O'Dimm, (initials: GOD, so mirror to God? Devil maybe?) is easily one of the greatest antagonists ever written in any work of art. I can't begin to understand how masterful the writing in this game is; CD Projekt Red must of made a deal with the Devil to bring to life all the most talented writers of all time for the Witcher 3, and then destroyed Cyberpunk as the cost. Only logical explanation.
His tone really changes at about 2:06, going from playful and mischevious to to more and more threatening as Geralt started prodding. And Geralt was smart enough to back off and not press him, knowing that he was beyond his ability to handle without proper prep time. Not sure anymore, but I think Geralt hasn't spoken to Shakeslock yet, so he doesn't know that GoD can be tempted into challenges where someone can beat him. GoD is the definition of "careful what you wish for". Olgierd never wished for immortality outright, he just wished to live like there was no tomorrow. Which was granted, resulting in him not dying regardless of what he did, growing colder and colder as immortality and guilt started crushing his soul.
"You actually control time, or is this some conjurer's trick?" "What difference does it make?" "A big one." I absolutely love that exchange. I love the seriousness with which Gearlt asks it, and the dismissive way O'Dimm answers. Also love that it just let's you sit with all the implications that come along with him being able to control time.
It was from this scene that I really started to fear Gaunter. In addition to the character, the ambient and eerie music acts as a real warning, that we are facing something completely unknown, powerful, terrifying and visibly impossible to kill.
the fact that he kiled that man implies that he can just stop time and do anything to anyone at any moment if he wishes so all those rules about contracts as such, he applies to himself by himself think about it for a moment, all that stops him is just random rules he made up himself and can change his mind at any time
Gaunter does say this is the last time I let you interrupt me…so this implies that the old man probably did it before and that gaunter has been to this inn many many many times before…perhaps it wasn’t unprovoked
I feel the best video game villains are always the ones where you know for a fact that there's not a damn thing you can do to stop them. No amount of gear grinding, level farming or skill could allow you to face this dude. Most games you defeat the villain, but this one he plays you, instead of you playing the game.
Thats why you ALWAYS make your first wish "I wish for you to give me what I desire, and not what I ask for." That means they have to deliver on what you ACTUALLY want and not twist the words of your wishes.
Despite Gaunter stopping time, you can see light from candles flicker on the walls and people. Either an oversight or his time stop isn't really a timestop and more of a paralyze.
1. The real reason why the Original Devil is cast out of heaven is the fact that the devil want to be a G.O.D himself. 2. Demon's real name is incomprehensible and will make you insane and that's their weakness too in some stories thats probly why O Dim don't want anyone yo know
We know nothhing about the original devil outside of the fact that he's part of the heavenly court. The earliest texts(if they were written down) didn't survive the Destruction of the First Temple.
I am a player from Poland. The game suprised me many times. However i became scared. I remember my dead grandmother. She always scolded me when i put my legs on the table. She told me " Ściągej nogi ze stołu. Punbuczek siedzi na stole." - meaning " Get your legs of the table. God is sitting on it."
When geralt asked about o dimms name, gaunter "spared" geralt because knowing his name would have left geralt with either being dead or even suffer a worse fate. Shakeslock was probably on the precipice of knowing Gaunter's real name. Gaunter stopped him with the circle curse, because had shakeslock discovered his name...his name would be known by many others. How could Gaunter play his games if everyone who inquired about him knew him? Awsome game btw!
Masterfuly written character. "Master Mirror" as his nickname says - really works here. He is a mirror of every character he is talking to - he was kind and caring while talking with Shani, Evil and arrogant with Olgierd, and straight to the point and neutral with Geralt.
Dude I was so glad(relieved) he didn't threaten Shani.
You. You just made me realize who the fuck gaunter is. He is not god. Not reflection of god. Not fucking satan. Not embodiment of evil(tho the 2nd most likely case). He is the reflection. He is the MIRROR. He is the reflection of every person he talks to.
@@winstonchurchill7822 may be why the answer to the riddle is the reflection. Clever CDPR, clever.
Whoa
@@gabrielenannucci1913 too bad they weren't clever with the production of Cyberpunk
" Do you really wish to know?"
" Yes"
" No, Geralt. You don't."
This was always the most memorable dialogue exchange in this massive game. You can really hear the honesty in his voice, he's not fucking around
It's even better once you realize he's not looking at Geralt when he says that. He's looking directly at the screen.
Thats why i didnt help olgierd and turned down that wish he offered, that bastard scared me
@@spectralassassin6030 that was exactly what I see, even more with the debug cam, I pause the game and I moved the cam, it is confirmed that he doesn't look at geralt at his right side, but look right at our gamer view 👀
My favourite moment of the DLC🤩
Geralt walked right into his trap, and the only thing that saved him was the fact that Gaunter decided not to spring it
And that my friends is what happens when you give superpowers to a lawyer.
Dan Williamson didn't realize he was Daredevil
@@SolidShepard They say that the Devil is worse than a lawyer. Lucky you, he was blinded by Idris.
the g man?
Better summon O`Dimm
Gaunter is defiantly inspired by Al Pacino’s Devil’s Advocate.
You could tell he was out of place from the start: He was sitting on a table.
Vegetarian Soylent-Green haha 😄 it never struck me as an out of place thing until you said it. And clearly no one is giving a shot about it. 😄
Yeah as if others could not see him
@@yashvintackoory2893 pretty certain no one saw him.
He decides who sees him and who doesn’t I believe.
Jonathan Irizarry I dont recall anything saying that but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was able to do that
"All of who have learnt my true nature are all dead or suffered an even worse fate."
Chills, man.
At least he is kind enough to let that one go. Could have reeled Geralt's soul in easily with that one.
CuriousPersianCat “kind”
CuriousPersianCat Last guy who tried to dig up dirt on him ended up blind in the process. How is Geralt gonna complete Olgierds tasks as a blind man (or worse. Shakelock didnt even learn his real name either...)? O'dimm is not "kind", just see's an unfavorable outcome in that one deal.
CuriousPersianCat He doesn’t seem to have an interest in people he thinks of as “Good”. If you notice he goes after people who he sees as being wicked. And he can apparently tell at glance to some extent, but prefers to see it first hand.
The woman in Beuclaire who who was vain and chased off “a beggar” who only asked for food comes to mind.
Which makes me wonder about the man with the spoon in his eye...
@@Neuviletteiudexofmemes My thought exactly
What i love about him, is that he never, at any point in time, was dishonest about anything he did, provided, or sought after. He barley even twisted his wording that much; all he did was exploit the hell out of every little loop hole.
Carter Gates He's one damn good lawyer
Bernardo Sales hey I bet the top lawyers could give the devil a run for his money
A lie of Omission is still dishonest and lying. Gaunter O'Dimm does a whole lot of Omitting when Geralt was asked to be set free he didn't know how he was going to be freed and that he would still have to fight for his life to be free. O'Dimm did not mention that if Gearlt accepted the deal he would be branded. Thats just the tip of the ice berg. If you intentionally allow people to hold false expectations about yourself or a situation you are lying by omission . I'm not saying that not spilling everything when you meet someone is a lie but if your are purposefully hiding something to deceive someone thats a lie.
He simply gives people what they ask for, but what they ask for isn't always what they want.
So he is worse than evil Incarnate. He’s a lawyer
incredible how powerless geralt looks in his mastercrafted armor, 2 swords and cat eyes sitting next to this peasant dressed in rags
Indeed.... ugh...shivers.
At a times I wonder how some people are so brave/stupid to change gerald.
But it is also true that Geralt was not afraid of him.
Don’t worry Geralt has the ultimate power of saving and reloading
I mistakenly read 'Peasant' as 'Peanut'.
This guy makes the unseen elder look like a bunny lol
He must be more powerful
@@armandomendez9249 he is consider is the pagan devil
@@armandomendez9249 imagine that most humans on the planet are ants, building, breaking, trying to survive other insects.
In this analogy, the elder vampire is a ant eater
And mister mirror is a human with a shotgun
@@turino1289 LOL my welp I guess Gaunter is definitely the more powerful one.
@@turino1289 I would like to think he's the most skilled of all men. In all manners, from sword to pen, and anything in between.
Would kill the ant eater with a pen, but would prolly swindle it out of its fur, skin, teeth and eyes first.
I think people miss the true significance of Gaunter killing the drunk by quite a lot. Yes its a chilling moment and all, but more importantly, it means that he can indeed kill at a whim, and that he is not bound by any cosmic rule that he cant directly act against mortals. He does not HAVE to honor his contracts, he chooses to. In other words, his rules are self imposed, and even though he wont, he could indeed choose to just kill you at any time. A lot of devil figures in mythology are constrained by the laws of God or the gods, and CANT just slaughter humans, hence the need for deception. This is not the case here.
"could indeed have CHOSEN". Signed, the Grammar teacher and poster of the video. But yes, you're probably right. Good analysis.
I doubt that Gaunther isn't forced to honor his deals. He seems to get banished against his will in the "Good" ending. Also, it's a common thing in European folklore that incredible powerful beings are bound to honor their word, whether they want to or not. The fact that he can murder the drunk has no bearing on that, it's not like he made a pact with the drunk that he not kill him.
To be fair, we can't be 100% sure whether or not he can just kill on a whim, or that some external criteria was met for him to be able to kill this guy. Also, we don't know if he could just destroy the world if he wanted too, or if there are other restrictions he has, he could also have to honour a deal once he's made it. And better yet(which is more of a personal theory tbh), he might not be as powerful as he lets on. I personally think that this entire scene is just an illusion, and gaunter himself tells Olgeird to meet you. Sure, he's displayed that he can teleport, and can even grant some wishes, but does he really do anything that wouldn't be possible in some way via magic? From memory I don't think he does. Also obviously there is the possibility of him being some form of djinn or something. To me, the name, the devils deals, the pointed demon like ears, the appearance at his death, etc. Are all way too on the nose for me to take it seriously. I think he is either pretty powerful but extremely restricted or is actually nowherr near as powerful as he lets on but he instead uses his intelligence and power to deceive people into thinking he's far more powerful than he actually is.
I think it's a case where he both chooses to stick to the rules, but is also forced to do so at the same time. Because if he didn't stick to his own rules, he would get bored *very* quickly, with nothing to do in a world full of creatures so far beneath him that it would drive him insane. Like when you handicap yourself in a game to make it more fun. Nuzlockes in pokemon being a prime example.
@@Da1337Man You've sidesteped the meaning of Choice vs Compulsion.
If your not doing something because you recognize that it violates an abstract concept thats called choosing not to do it. Your using logic to dicern if something would be a bad choice or not, and then deciding against it.
If I look at a massive cliff and think "I shouldn't jump because there will be negative consequences." That isnt the cliff compelling me to not jump.
Dude. The guy he killed just wanted to buy Geralt a drink. Judging by his posture, he's probably a bit drunk as it is and likely doesn't have any ulterior motives and just wants a drinking buddy. In conclusion, O'Dimm really is evil.
Martin Tan Well he is called Evil Incarnate for a reason in the game.
Naaa fuck that...comes outta nowhere wanting me to drink shit.... interrupting my business...and I specifically told your ass no....
Kill the f****for not taking no for an answer.....
Also...I'm pretty sure he's interrupted O'dimm before hand... hince "that's the last time you interrupt me"
@@ajizel13 well it can also be the first and last time
@@ajizel13 kill the dude for wanting to chill? I hope you never get access to a weapon
@@ajizel13 You're fucked up bro.
2:53 Just realized this but he's not even looking at Geralt, he's looking straight at the player.
Thanks, I'm having nightmares tonight.
thank you for taking my soul
my pleasure :)
He breaks the 4th wall inside a 4th wall
That’s like 16 walls
@@jhonnysilverhand13 4 ?! 4+4+4+4 ? Jhin happy noice !
-Do you really wish to know?
-Yes!
-No, Geralt, you don't, even devs don't know what I am
LOL!!!
I believe we all know who he is but we all wanted to at least hear him say it what or who he is even if we know already in our imagination we all believe he is even something more evil than the devil x3
"And player, neither do you"
@@harisdaglar3542 Gaunter is our reflection. Look how he treat people. Bad people gets in trouble. Neutal Geralt and good heart Shani were treat just like who they are.
@@sajuente8235 interesting but no 😈
I love how much he progresses in flaunting his abilities as the story goes on.
He starts off pretty tame and cryptic. "I called upon my many talents and associates to give him what he desired" referring to giving Olgierd his immortality.
By the end he's stopping time and walking on air as if they were stairs.
I know. I mean, his initials spell GOD. He's for sure a divine entity of sorts, or demon. Or maybe a trickster god like Loki, but super mean.
@@marconeves1979 His initials do spell GOD, but he is also known as Master Mirror. The mirror image of God would be what? The Devil perhaps?
@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 DOG
@@stanislavkucej1923 lol
@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 dog, I reckon
Best villain in the series, you like him but at the same time you hate him
I liked him, but at the same time, he scared the carp out of me. I couldn't stand up to him, when it came to Olgierds soul.
edi There was a fish inside you?
I guess I can blame the auto-correct-function.
That’s called charisma, my friend
Not really a villian, he is just there, so long as you don't antagonize him, absolutely nothing to fear.
I started another playthrough of W3 recently, he is one of the first characters you talk to at the Inn in White Orchard at the very start of the game. Legitimately freaked me out because I didn't remember him from the Inn at all when I first played through Hearts of Stone. Designed to be forgettable, but he's evil incarnate. The developers hid him in the background of the populace all over the game too. He's always there, watching you in plain sight... Just like the devil would be
Would have still clapped his ass cheeks in Gwent. Starter Northern deck OP.
@@TheHackersboss no one can best Geralt, the White Wolf, in some gwent.
Same here. I had completely forgotten all about him by the time I had met him again on the ship. I had to search for the first encounter with him at the inn right here on UA-cam. It was only then that I remembered him. Pretty clever how they did that.
he is also following you throughout the hearts of stone game, but you never notice... check "gaunter odimm detail you probably missed" on youtube :)
I think what makes him even more frightening is that he isn't, in his own nature, "evil" per se. It's the desires of the mortal that gives him his ideas. If people were more kind and less selfish his power would wain, and yet, he is presumed to be the most powerful entity in the lore. Another example of humans being the true monsters.
Gaunter is legit terrifying. He's not physically imposing but you feel his presence.
Even in Toussant you do.
@@TheBayzent He appears in Toussant?
@The Pack Oh right. I haven't played the game since 2016.
Being around Gaunter makes you feel like you have to choose your words wisely or better not speak at all. Notice how he actually had Geralt commit a wish. Also the fact that he snatches some glances to the player when he is speaking. Freaking Gaunter O'Dimm a very spicy fellow or whatever he is.
Love how he locks eyes with the player while he talks about his true name.
@@verbatim3752 In debug mode ppl actually confirmed he is programmed to look at the camera.
Did u guys notice that no one seems to pay any attention to him when he is sitting on the table. Like no one else sees him except Geralt... It could be that he can watch u for a long time with out being noticed unless he wants you to notice him. Could be that he exists beyond time and space.
Well he controls time and he did said about other dimensions, so i'm sure that he can do this trick in a way that he thinks to be very easy
Rafael Aníbal i do not think he can control time because thats the only question he just not answered but tried to avoid it
There is a dude on YT who made a video .. seems like O Dimm was in the background of lots of cutscenes. The ones where you do the tasks. He's spying on you. Check it out it's pretty creepy.
@@blindgamer3463 He can, he at first just siad what difference does it make, and when Geralt insisted that it makes big one he siad that he does control time" time always fascinated me so i thought myself how to control it"
And nobody noticed him when he went out the tavern , right next to the guy falling dead with a spoon in his eye. So, youre probably right about taht.
The moment his voice goes form joking around to utter seriousness when he says "no, Geralt, you dont." Is shows how great a character he is.
did ya notice that he isnt looking at geralt when he says that? hes looking at US
I love the fact that the developers had it so that when he says "No Geralt. You dont." when you ask him who he really is, he isnt looking at Geralt, hes looking at the camera. It genuinly gives me chills, the idea that he has started talking to us, even if its just for a breif second.
The last line of his lullaby is even more creepy. "Till the stars expire..."
This is the kind of characters they must never use again, they are meant to be left in the shadows of mistery, they should only use him for easter eggs like they did in Blood and Wine
Can i just say i am a little obsessed with this character right now . He exudes charisma , intelligence and wit , yet at the same time his presence always carries a certain feeling of menace , that you can feel looming on the horizon . A deeply sophisticated entity , that rarely uses his immense power to take advantage of the situation , but always presents his points in a logical , even philosophical and honest kind of way . Like a chess player at his finest . Not only is he immensely powerful but extremely knowledgeable as well . He commands respect and admiration . I was always taken aback by his conversations , so menacing , frightening yet so charismatic and intelligent , that you can't help but admire him , or at the very least respect his way of thinking
@@mohamedabdelfatah7297 funny how one year later, i am in the exact same spot as you were. Dear god this character is just soooo interesting
i hope he has an easter egg in cyberpunk 2077
Yup I hate when people say he should come back in another game. If he did it would ruin the character.
I wouldn’t mind Easter eggs here or there but that should be it. He’s such a well written character because of the ambiguity and sparing use of him, take that away and he’d just become another “evil spirit” character.
He must appear in cyberpunk 2077 as an easteregg
I like how Geralt's sarcasm with the "time" vs. "thyme" wordplay makes the player low-key realize that the wishes had a deadly semantic clause if one wasn't careful, like we find out later with Olgierd when he fails to realize the very same semantics of how he worded his wishes. It also shows us that Geralt realized this early on.
aww and all he wanted to do was have a drink with him...
Nicklefritz Gaunter is the Devil I'm sure he doesn't give 2 shits
Brandon Tillery
G aunter
O'
D imm
master (mirrorer), god in a mirror is satan, so, hes satan,
THE DEVIL
GOD in a mirror is DOG....so he's a dog, I think.
*bork!*
I actually really liked him, always trying to outsmart people
i legitimately thought he was less evil than olgierd, and substantially more intelligent. Didn't actually consider him as a villian lol.
Trying ain't got nothin' to do with it.
Gaunter is just perfectly written, he was chilling talking about bakery with two old ladies very politely then torturing a ghost minutes after
This was the moment I knew that Gaunter O'dimm was the most powerful being Geralt faced in his journeys.
"No, Geralt.. you don't. This one time I shall spare you and not grant your wish."
If you listen you can hear the music pick up to a shrill, frightening tone at that moment. The mask of "Gaunter O'Dimm" falls away and something frightening is talking to Geralt; something old, evil and predatory. I love how we get glimpses into his true nature in moments like these, and how even after ALL this time there is still speculation as to what Gaunter is - the pagan devil? (G)aunter (O)'(D)imm? Evil incarnate? The reflection of mankind's evil?
All speculation, and yet enough evidence that each is plausible from a certain point of view.
*That* is how you write a good villain, folks.
What's more frightening is gaunter didnt even stare at geralt when he told that but is staring at the player with that menace look
If you notice, after both times he stops time, someone says the word "devil" afterwards. Combined with all the freaky shit he does and the implication he's not from the Witcher universe, I like to think he's actually -the- Satan
Its obvious he is supposed to be the witcher equivilent to the devil. His name gives it away "Gaunter O'Dimm Master of Mirrors" which could also be called "GOD's Reflection" or "Reflection of GOD".
Hes based off Walter O'Dimm from the Dark Tower series, who is an exceedingly cunning human sorcerer who tricks people into thinking hes God, but is not. He gives much the same reasons when asked why he uses fake names, but the real reason is that he can only be killed by someone who knows his true name.
Now, since the rules for human magic users are very clearly laid out in the Witcher books, so Gaunter is clearly not a human pretending to be stronger than he is like Walter was, but based off his source of inspiration I really don't think hes God or Gods shadow or whichever. The core of both characters is that they trick people, rely on deception and Faustian bargains. Him being God because of how his name is spelled is to obvious.
Edda233 correct,
@@GrimgoreIronhide Well there are rules of magic for sure, but you can always go around them... like you could for example make a spell focus which will drain place of power of magic and store the energy... just like a dragon or a cat would do... and then use it.
then again - witcher signs compared to power it uses are masterful spells. in fact the effect quen or aard achieves compared to magic energies exerted is tremendous. most wizzards are not this efficient. They use wands trinkets staves...
and yes he is based on this character however he actually is very powerful extradimensional being... one which actually wants Geralt alive because he fucking wants Ciri to stop white frost... (that would destroy even him)
@@Paerigos Everything you have said is true, but I'm not quite sure what point your trying to make.
My argument was that since the character he is based off frequently tries to trick people into thinking he's God when he's not, concluding that Gaunter is God based off vauge hints he's dropped is absurd. The entire point of Walter O Dimm is that he's a charlatan. Gaunter O Dimm is as well, even if he happens to have more real power than his litterary inspiration.
@@GrimgoreIronhide I think your missing a key factor though, gearlt ask him if he is a mage and he says no, so clearly not. I think he is a mix between the devil and god. I don't think they are different people in the Witcher universe, no sorrcesor takes souls. And also you can see this more when playing the the blood and wine dlc, won't ruin it if you haven't
They did an excellent job of making him quite pleasant but also very threatening at the same time.
He has an interesting face too. He doesn´t stand out, he appears friendly and a bit naive at times, but he can be also very scary.
I was really surprised how much he stalked me in the game and also on YT (seriously, I´ve seen so many accounts with his face)
He talks directly to the player when they ask what he is, telling them that they don't want to know, then cuts the camera back.
2:40.
I figured it out! He's a Stand user!
ZA WARUDO
Well, if we take his initials and translate it to Italian...
KONO POWA
god: Muda muda muda muda muda mudaMuda muda mudaMuda muda muda
Gearlt: Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora OraOraOraOraOraOraOraOraOraOra
Killer queen bites the dustu
As I was playing through this whole story I was suspicious of what Gaunter actually was, but part of me still didn't want to fully believe it. I kept looking for logical explanations of all that he was capable of. It wasn't until I saw this scene that my suspicions were beyond confirmed. As the reality dawned on me I became frightened and sick...This is a fucking videogame. This is the best story I've ever played in a game. From beginning to end I thought I knew but had know idea.
Right?? Best story ever.
So what conclusion did you actually come to? You can't get all dramatic like that and then not spill the beans!
@@Da1337Man LOL I didn't realize after all this time I never said what I thought he actually was. I believe he is a powerful demon/demi-god to be precise.
@@HerosTheme I think it finally dawned on me *what* he truly is. Everyone keeps saying he's a literal reflection of whoever he talks to, but its much more than that.
Yes he is the reflection of all of us. But that also includes the parts of ones self that most people refuse to acknowledge, the part of yourself that people bury so deeply in their own subconscious, that to be confronted by it would guarantee certain madness. Some cultures believe that the subconscious is the truest core of our being, and some people just wouldn't even know how to begin to respond to such a revelation, that there are aspects to your own personality that even you yourself don't know about.
Well I had come to conclusion preatty quick, because I am slav and Gaunter acts just like a Devil from almost every tale with a Devil.
Gaunter got me reading ToS and privacy policy documents in their entirety
LOL!! Yes!
2:52 goosebumps
O'Dimm made Hearts of Stone absolutely amazing. Loved the hell out of it.
Gaunter O'Dimm always put a chill down my Spine when playing Heart of Stone, even Blood and Wine with the Wight you turn back to an old lady, that was O'Dimm's doing as you can tell by how she describes the person who puts the curse on her and of course, the exact same haunting music.
One of the best written villains in games/films.
Never read the books, I wonder if he makes an appearance in the Witcher Books?
From what my book-nerd of a friend has told me, he doesn’t exist in the novels.
completely new CDPR character, but he also makes a hidden cameo in Thronebreaker
His existence is mentioned during the Law of Surprise arc. They talk about the merchant who sells mirrors. Nothing much.
Its very impressive cd project mange to create a villain better than all villains of books and novels of the Witcher combined i always thought the story telling in novel was better until i played hearts of stones
In certain folklore, first it is said that demon never reveal their true name because it can be used to cast them back to hell or any damnation place. So because it prove as his vulnerability, no wonders he'll make sure anyone who will speak his true name will be ill fated. Second, mirrors are also known as a catalyst for a demon or any other world creature to use as a portal to travel between worlds. Even now it still believed that you cannot placed a mirror in certain position in your house ex: on the wall in parallel of stairs, etc because of the things above. So my theory is Gaunter used the pseudonym master of mirrors or mirror merchant maybe because he's a demon/devil gatekeeper of the other world.
He is literally the devil, how the hell do people not get this? He is the incarnation of evil, chaos, his name is even G.O’D.
This is probably the most honest ODimm has ever been with anyone he’s come into contact with.
Man I keep forgetting that this is literally one of the first characters you meet in this game, basically gives you your main lead and sets up the hearts of stone dlc later in the game perfectly
Theory 1: Gaunter O'Dimm is a being who became self-aware that it exists in a fictional world of a video game. Slowly, it started to learn how the inner mechanisms of a "video game" works. It abused the game's code to grant itself supernatural powers and started to torment other digital beings for its own amusement. It became a tyrannical God of its own little world of computer generated graphics.
That's why he looked at the player at 2:53. It knows that there's a physical person sitting behind the screen, controlling the game's narrative.
Theory 2: It's the game's canonical devil. That's it.
Theory 2 seems more logical to me.
Gaunter O'Dimm, or G. O. D. as an acronym. Now add that he's also "master mirror", and you get mirror of God.
So…he basically achieved the Witcher equivalent of CHIM
Geralt also looks at you (the player) at the end of the whole game :)
Not only that you meet O Dimm at the crossroads like how you would with Satan in general
0:50 I love it how at this point Geralt is used to all the magic and shenanigans that in the face of time stoping all he can say is "show off" as of course he isn't surprised.
"Do you really wish to know?"
"Yes."
"I'm an actor named Stanley Tucci."
That small moment when he’s no longer being the “cheerful” o’dimm is amazing
The most ordinary person, got the most terrifying glare. It's always that way.
I just noticed something. Gaunter O'Dimm is aware of us. He looks directly at the camera several times. To let us know that he's fully aware of our presence.
Terrifying.
"Geralt, there are 4 dimensions - length, width, height and time. What would you have me fall in love with ? Width ?"
Very good choice of words from Gaunter because controlling length and height can be quite funny.
*EXTRA THICC*
Tomira: “And I took that personally”
love how after saying that u can control time or have a superhuman quickness the guy just asks "u tossed this fly in my soup?" haha
Even Geralt looks a little terrified when he just walks over and shoves the spoon into the mans head. Nothing he could do, and if Geralt were in that mans place he would be just as screwed. For once Geralt met something that he was comically outmatched by.
2:52 he looks directly at the player, not at Geralt. When I saw it for the first time, I was sweating all over, my heart was pounding with fear, and my whole body was covered with goosebumps.
That look he gives before 'No Geralt, you don't'.
2:42 THAT exchange alone was a massive indication. And the look he gives while he basically tells Geralt, “No, I won’t grant your wish this time Geralt. You really don’t want to know who I am”.. CHILLING.. and then how he effortlessly kills that drunk dude, before he leaves. Shoved a goddamn wooden spoon inside his eye socket while he was frozen in time. Lmao Yeh, he is HIM. The one with no name. Or with millions of names. He exists in every world, in every religion. Brilliantly done, and bone chilling
One of the best written characters in videogame History in my opinion. A bone-chilling mysterious antagonist.
Gaunter O'Dimm is the antichrist @@marconeves1979
I played this pack after getting a course of contract law and the developers makes lots of great reference here. Also in one side quest in novigrad, you help a merchant and find a doppler. There geralt makes references to basics of economics. The details are amazing
thats a reference to the first book
The Heart of Stone theme will always be the best track on Witcher 3, so dark yet mesmerizing
Agreed. Best track of all. I personally love "Lullaby of Woe" as well.
@@marconeves1979 that's a good one also the theme for the ladies of the wood
@@laabitres Yeeeeeessss, that one is great too!
Whom you once thought an honest, forthcoming, innocent deity, you find out to be pure evil.
Gaunter has some serious Lovecraft vibes. And he is a lot like a certain Outer God who goes by the name of Nyarlathotep. It's scary how similar both Nyarlathotep and Gaunter are as both are the archetypes of the Devil in their respective mythos. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Gaunter O' Dimm was an avatar of Nyarlathotep
Something particularly creepy. At 2:53 when he is answering Geralt about what he is, he is no longer looking at Geralt.
He is looking at the camera. At you, the player. Telling you that you don’t want to know who and what he is.
What I love about this is that it shows you how dangerous he actually is. He's not bound by any laws really. He killed a random person just because he was annoyed by him.
The whole deal with the devil thing is just him being bored.
And he isn't like the Jenny's (originally arab myths) they should guarantee ur wishes as long its not against the 7 rules but o dimm didn't take geralt wish of knowing his true truth but spared him
“What would you have me fall in love with? Width? Tsk tsk”
Tomira: “and I took that personally”
4:37 thats what he is :)
I never heard that those that have seen the devil automatically die or suffer a fate worse than death. He said it as this was beyond his volition. He could be lying of course, but what difference would it make for him? Gerald knows that Gaunther is absolutely OP and there's no way in hell that he could defeat him in a fight. Moreover, the contract is basically fulfilled at this point, so that even if Gerald didn't like the answer it wouldn't be a disadvantage. Lastly, it would make not much sense to warn people of him, because he'll probably come in different disguises and there will be always enough desperate men and fools.
MartialArtsCN every scene he's in often ends with the mention of the devil.its just another big hint as to what he really is in the end
MartialArtsCN he's a incarnation of evil in man.
Nah, he is crossroad demon.
One of his names is "Master Mirror." And what does a mirror do but reflect your image. Like the man said, he gives people what they wish, not what they need. That their wishes are poorly thought and reflect...poorly on them is not his fault. If you think about the people he has hurt (through contract or curse) and who they were, what they did, he did not harm nice, good people. Just those who had it coming. Like a mr Morden once said, "i guess i just tried to make people happy."
Oo. That perfect timing of the creepy music fading in after he tells Geralt, "No, Geralt, you don't."
I wonder if Gaunter O'Dimm is meant to be an elder one akin to Lovecraft. In Lovecraft's stories anyone who finds the true nature of the cosmic outer gods goes insane or they die from the shock which is what Gaunter warned Geralt if Geralt found out what he truly is. Gauter O'Dimm may be a Lawful Evil version of Nyarlathotep.
Elder ones don't give a cr*p about humans though. Only Nyarlathotep does, but he is an outer God not an Elder One, he DOES tangentially fit O'Dimm's character though.
I was thinking the same think it makes it Much cooler, like if you can’t comprehend their real name or your mind will collapse into madness
Love that the voice actors Scottish accents pops through on certain words. With the music in the background it makes me think of tam o shanter
i just realized that now but....the drunk guy actually wanted to buy geralt a drink not ask him for it, he genuinely wanted companionship and to buy a witcher a drink and have a chat that fact somehow makes gaunter killing him so much worse to me lol
That’s why I made the game challenge to him. Not to save Olgierd, but because I felt O’Dimm deserved to know what it’s like to take a L after that.
Feels like an evil genie of some sort. Grants 3 wishes, dlc has middle eastern garb and swords, sand mage you fight off the boat. Somewhere they also went demon route with him. Since he never explicity states he isn't a djinn or a demon, it's possible he's both.
Gaunter O'Dio
"ZA WARUDO"
LOL!!!!!!! Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!Muda!
Witcher 3 is a JoJo reference confirmed
Mann, that peasant is such an endangered specie. Offering a mutant a drink upon seeing one.
The way he uses his words is dangerously tricky.
"Do you really WISH to know?"
Notice how he rarely uses the word "want" but he always purposely emphasize the word "WISH" every time he speaks to someone. Every moment you talk to him can easily be turned into an "oral contract" and "blood pact" without you even realizing it.
Just the way he said “No geralt, you don’t.” Always gets me
It's difficult to pinpoint "what" he is, but whatever he is, he holds up a mirror to humanity. How does he stop time though? Is it just due to the accumulated souls he's gathered over time? Why does he want these souls in the first place. What made him decide to grant wishes. He doesn't act like a djinn or even a demon. He likes his contracts but doesn't seem particularly beholden to them. It's more like a game he's playing
I think he is supposed to be The Witcher's universe Devil, as in Satan/Lucifer. The Original Fallen. Look up Goethe's Faust or Marlowe's Doctor Faustus: the antagonist in these plays is The Devil, and he works with contracts for human souls, etc. It also reminded me a bit of Devil's Advocate with Al Pacino or Angelheart with Robert De Niro. Two amazing films.
The writers of the game also mostly took inspiration from a Polish folklore tale called Pan Twardowski, written around the same time as Doctor Faustus (1500's or so).
@@marconeves1979 sorry for my bad english: I think like in most of religions, in the witcher universe the "soul" belongs to god. So in this case Gaunter can kill anyone without restriction, but he can't take his prize and therefore he needs the contracts
We should have a game about Gaunter O'Dimm and you play as him. All the quests about granting everyone's wishes and then breaking their little hearts sounds like fun. Sinister grin. :)
i like that idea let's ask cd project red! :)
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Fun, but incredibly difficult to gameify and program. How do you balance a challenge when the character you're playing as is virtually omnipotent? Besides, part of what makes O'Dimm so engaging is that he's mysterious. The answer he gives Geralt in this scene as to his true nature was the best one the writers could have come up with; the answer you provide with your subconscious and curiosity is perfectly tailored to your particular sensibilities. Having a concrete answer about Gaunter O'Dimm's nature would be showing the shark.
No
you should get your own antagonist who steal peoples soul in the Witcher 4 with your own theme for this idea.you are a demon
So Gaunter O'Dimm acts like a god in the sense he grants people's "wishes" or prayers. However, the trick to him is that unlike a traditional God is that the moment he grants people's wishes he gain control over their lives. Interesting how CDPR takes the traditional things and flips them on their head in this game.
it's what's known as a Faustian Bargain
Look. I love cdpr. But can you stop giving them Praise for things they didnt even create? The witcher's entirety is based around taking fairy tales and flipping them on their tails. Especially the books is based around this idea. Cdpr simply followed the author's vision.
@@winstonchurchill7822 Which is still a massive accomplishment, taking existing narratives and reinterpreting them in a way that allows you to seamlessly weave them into an existing overarching story of your own making.
@@vahlen5281 it is. But acting like this was cdpr's own creation is absurd.
Read "Goethe's Faust". The devil making clever pacts with mortals and tricking them isn't CDPR. The folktales predate the game hundreds of years.
Honestly, Gaunter seems more like an eldritch horror type of satan.
Not the original rebellious Satan, but a being that treats you exactly how you treat others, a being that is a manifestation of "Reaping what thy sow", but just like the Devil, he also make contracts for his personal gains.
It's like the moment he interacts with you, he starts to reflect your spirit like a mirror.
"give folk what they ask for"
Where's the 4th dimension cops, this guy clearly mess with time
Don't think they wanna f*ck with O'Dimm... it wouldn't end well.
He killed them
He violated the Temporal Prime Directive!
to be fair, that part of the "oral contract" that Go'D quoted could have been formulated much better.
In this wording quoted here, there was PLENTY of space allowed for Geralt to counter-argue that "nono, it actually means..." :D
Every time I’ve played this game and seen him sitting in that tavern in White Orchard, I’m like, “I see you over there, you SOB.” Lol. By far the most memorable character in this entire game. They carefully crafted him from appearance to voice actor.
I also love how in different stages of the questline there's almost always someone that mentions the devil when O' Dimm leaves the conversation
This guy was most frightening character in all video games i ever played. Every time he gave me chills. The devil himself i presume...
"What the Devil??", very well placed line here. Honestly, Master Mirror Gaunter O'Dimm, (initials: GOD, so mirror to God? Devil maybe?) is easily one of the greatest antagonists ever written in any work of art. I can't begin to understand how masterful the writing in this game is; CD Projekt Red must of made a deal with the Devil to bring to life all the most talented writers of all time for the Witcher 3, and then destroyed Cyberpunk as the cost. Only logical explanation.
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Definitely the devil my guy. He has disguised himself man, don’t fall for it!
One word to describe this demon; equivocation. He says one simple thing, and loopholes it with another simpler, yet far darker thing.
Terrifying.
From this moment I realized that I was not dealing with a sorcerer or even a special monster, it was something much, much worse...
0:55 that plate wasnt even affected by time, it slowly moved to its actual supposed place
His tone really changes at about 2:06, going from playful and mischevious to to more and more threatening as Geralt started prodding. And Geralt was smart enough to back off and not press him, knowing that he was beyond his ability to handle without proper prep time. Not sure anymore, but I think Geralt hasn't spoken to Shakeslock yet, so he doesn't know that GoD can be tempted into challenges where someone can beat him.
GoD is the definition of "careful what you wish for". Olgierd never wished for immortality outright, he just wished to live like there was no tomorrow. Which was granted, resulting in him not dying regardless of what he did, growing colder and colder as immortality and guilt started crushing his soul.
"You actually control time, or is this some conjurer's trick?"
"What difference does it make?"
"A big one."
I absolutely love that exchange. I love the seriousness with which Gearlt asks it, and the dismissive way O'Dimm answers. Also love that it just let's you sit with all the implications that come along with him being able to control time.
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When Fringilla stabbed the paralyzed soldier in the eye in season 2, I instantly recalled this scene.
i was terrified the first time i played HoS, controlling time is the greatest power there is
It was from this scene that I really started to fear Gaunter. In addition to the character, the ambient and eerie music acts as a real warning, that we are facing something completely unknown, powerful, terrifying and visibly impossible to kill.
the fact that he kiled that man implies that he can just stop time and do anything to anyone at any moment if he wishes so
all those rules about contracts as such, he applies to himself by himself
think about it for a moment, all that stops him is just random rules he made up himself and can change his mind at any time
it's deviously brilliant.
Gaunter does say this is the last time I let you interrupt me…so this implies that the old man probably did it before and that gaunter has been to this inn many many many times before…perhaps it wasn’t unprovoked
Ever notice O’Dimm looks at the player instead of Geralt?? Love that, makes him even more complex
Yes , you're gorgeous
“Do you really wish to know?” “Yes” Geralt fell head first into that trap
I feel the best video game villains are always the ones where you know for a fact that there's not a damn thing you can do to stop them.
No amount of gear grinding, level farming or skill could allow you to face this dude.
Most games you defeat the villain, but this one he plays you, instead of you playing the game.
Gaunter O'Dimm really loves time, you can tell how pissed he was when his time was wasted by the drunk so he robbed him of all of his time.
the music in the background is awesome.
One of the most terrifying demonstration of power in video games. With the music...
Thats why you ALWAYS make your first wish "I wish for you to give me what I desire, and not what I ask for." That means they have to deliver on what you ACTUALLY want and not twist the words of your wishes.
Despite Gaunter stopping time, you can see light from candles flicker on the walls and people. Either an oversight or his time stop isn't really a timestop and more of a paralyze.
1. The real reason why the Original Devil is cast out of heaven is the fact that the devil want to be a G.O.D himself.
2. Demon's real name is incomprehensible and will make you insane and that's their weakness too in some stories thats probly why O Dim don't want anyone yo know
We know nothhing about the original devil outside of the fact that he's part of the heavenly court. The earliest texts(if they were written down) didn't survive the Destruction of the First Temple.
I am a player from Poland. The game suprised me many times. However i became scared. I remember my dead grandmother. She always scolded me when i put my legs on the table. She told me " Ściągej nogi ze stołu. Punbuczek siedzi na stole." - meaning " Get your legs of the table. God is sitting on it."
When geralt asked about o dimms name, gaunter "spared" geralt because knowing his name would have left geralt with either being dead or even suffer a worse fate. Shakeslock was probably on the precipice of knowing Gaunter's real name. Gaunter stopped him with the circle curse, because had shakeslock discovered his name...his name would be known by many others. How could Gaunter play his games if everyone who inquired about him knew him? Awsome game btw!
Naming might also be a thing in the Witcher universe, if so Gaunter would be very interested in stopping that getting out
Netflix tried to copy this scene with Fringilla and failed miserably...