Oyster Tips That Will Save You Money
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- If you're using Oyster Pay-As-You-Go (and for some of these tips, Contactless Cards/Devices as well) here are some things that you might not have known which will give you cheaper travel on TfL services in London.
To look up the price of a journey, there's an Oyster Fare Finder here at: oysterfares.com/off/
As always check the excellent Oyster Fares website for everything you need to know and queries about Oyster/Contactless travel in London! oysterfares.com/
Note: An additional thing with the Disabled Railcard, is that the discount works *at all times*, even in the morning peak, and gets you 1/3 off of the peak-daily cap as well.
To clarify - You don’t get the Oyster discount with the Network Railcard, this is why I don’t mention it!
Any tips on saving with the Travelcard though?
There isn’t unless you get a student or apprentice oyster. In most cases it’s still cheaper to be payg
@@AndrewG1989 Christ on a bike , lets go the whole hog and have a railcard for those people with ginger hair, by the way why in gods name would you want to go to Norwich?
If you have travel card and you are travelling with someone else on the same journey, you can also get a discount for them.
Oh shame. I just had my new one linked with my oyster payg in January. I was told at the ticket window it did apply. Are there any benefits to linking the two?
The really winning move, if you work near the edge of zone 1, is to buy a zone 2+ travelcard and use it to get the bus (for free) to the first stop in zone 2. It can save up to £1000 a year
agree with that one:)
Robert Lamacraft Hi, I’m new in London, and I’m not getting how you can save money since the travel cards allow you to use unlimited buses (and other transportation) anyway? Thanks for helping me understand this 😅
Céline Zhou Say you live in zone 4, a zone 1-4 travel card will be more expensive than a zone 2-4 but both give you free buses in zone 1 - so it’s cheaper to get a zone 2-4 travel card and each day take the bus from an office in zone 1, to a station in zone 2, and then the train out to zone 4 than it is to get a zone 1-4 travel card and each day take the train from zone 1 to 4
Robert Lamacraft thank you so much!
Smart
One tip you missed: Oyster cards cost £5 to buy, but it's a DEPOSIT. If you ever move out of London, you can go and hand in your Oyster Card and get your deposit back.
Yes & it's great for tourists visiting London, usually they don't know they can get their money back!
Where do you hand it back in?
@@ysabelestrada9288 any underground station! - Simple go to the top up machine, tap your card on yellow point - then select - Oyster Refund on the main screen. It'll refund you all the money inside oyster card + Deposit = oyster card won't work anymore.
@@shadzscape they have changed it, it's a fee now of £5.00
You should edit this as it has now changed to a fee rather than a deposit
If only more people knew that you can attach an Railcard to an oyster card. My commute which normally costs £3.10 each way (off-peak). With the discount it comes to £2.05 each way and the money saved is £2.10 total daily (there and back). Considering the Rail Card costs £30 that means I make my money back in savings in just over 2 weeks. Over the year this means I'll have saved £546! Thanks Geoff :)
How do you connect your rail card digital to a physical oyster card?
Saving money? On the tube?
My two favourite things!
Always Love watching these types of video. alway gets me ready for when i travel to london. Thanks Geoff
Great advice, much appreciated, for those who live outside London but visit frequently. Saves money and hassle to have insider knowledge of transport options.
Really enjoying your videos on trains, railways and the tube. Please keep them coming.
I worked out that if I added my railcard to my Oyster, and got off at Mornington Crescent rather than Euston and walked 10 minutes to work that my daily commute costs me £2.70. I also usually tap in after 9.30 but didn't realise that it was actually 9.27 so thanks for the tip!
The railcard one is super useful, I just got a job where I'll have to commute to London and I'm gonna take full advantage of this now
I used to tap in before 6:35 , Get to work around 7:30, and leave at 15:30, get it off peak both ways. And therefore the 1/3 off . (With Railcard)
The off-peak cap in evening peak tip helped when me and me and my partner were in London this weekend. Managed to hit the off-peak cap on the Friday at 3:49pm when going to somewhere for 4pm, meaning the journey back out of zone 1 was free.
I knew that I could use a 16-25 railcard for Oyster discount, but I've always been reluctant to because I didn't know about the evening peak rule! I've been planning to buy a Paper Travelcard because they don't count the evening peak at all, and work out cheaper, but with this rule then I'll save myself lots of money, which is also helpful seeing as I've just bought a 3-year Railcard for the first time!
This is the most useful Oyster Card video I've seen on UA-cam. Great advice.
Geoff and trains... what a love story!:)
thanks for the extra tips! We learn till we die. Although I am very knowledgable on the Travel in London Subject, I did not know that when travelling the other direction in peak times it is charged as an Off Peak. Looking forward to more videos
I use the Hopper fare a lot as I volunteer in Central London but live in Hillingdon, on the outskirts of West London. My travel costs are £1.50 each way, thanks to catching the 607 Express bus to Shepherds Bush and then 148 to Westminster, getting up early to be sure that I am within the traffic time window. Sure, it takes longer (even Citymapper says I am the 100% slowest commuter in London) at around 2 hours, but if it saves on my travel costs and ultimately how long I can volunteer for then that is a good thing. It's also a great way to see London, taking in the north of Hyde Park, Marble Arch and Park Lane. Yesterday the 148 diverted around Millbank and the view of the Thames was A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Other mornings I see cavalry horses out for a run. If needs be, I can still drop out and take the tube should the roads get a little stuck by traffic, but since early January have not had to do that yet. Taking the bus and tube would cost a minimum £1.50 bus and £3.30 peak tube (£8.20 for the day when capped) from Ealing Common and more for outer zone stations, i.e. Hayes & Harlington or Northolt. Go Hopper fare!
Thanks for the tips especially the first one. That reminds me I need to find my oyster card before my next trip to London.
this all sounds quite complicated. In Berlin I pay 63 Euro a Month and can use all Busses, Trams, Ferries (!), U-Bahn, S-Bahn, RE and even ICE within the City Limits. Whenever I want, how many times I want
That is an amazing price! I spend £80 a month just so I can travel between zones 2 and 4, albeit with 'free' buses. And trams aswell I guess, but I don't live anywhere near Croydon so that doesn't really matter.
And in Vienna, I am paying 365€ a year for all public transport within the city limits. But then of course, it’s also a much simpler and smaller system than in London.
Yes but thus is the United Kingdom, we don’t do simple.
London is more than twice the size of Berlin.
UK obsessed with "break of journey". Germany got over that nonsense decades ago.
I’ve been using the first tip for a while now, coupled with the discount from the 16-25 railcard and it’s brilliant, saves me so much money
Excellent timing! I'm off to London myself in 2 weeks
have fun!:)
Thank you. I've been cursing the fact that there's a 9.29am train from my local station. No longer!
Mines 9:21 then 9:51 :(
Omg I have a 15-25 railcard for travel to and from uni and never knew when I come home it works on TFL! Thank you so much Geoff!
Yup! as per the TfL Website: tfl.gov.uk/fares/free-and-discounted-travel/national-railcard-discount
@@geofftech2 Hi Geoff, I just wanted to say that I've had all sorts of problems getting discounts applied before (in this case, from my Gold Card) - it's basically a game of speaking to people until you find someone who understands. Do you have any suggestions?
@@jwburt1 your best bet from my experience is to go to a London terminal, and into the accompanying tube station. Liverpool Street usually do mine. They apply discounts to cards multiple times a day compared to normal tube stations where it might only be once in a blue moon. Also make sure to register your oyster card to save having to remember a passcode.
If you live in London, get the 18+ oyster card. It gives you a 30% discount on travelcards which often makes out to be cheaper as you can travel in the peak with no added charge.
@@TheSniper9752 Only if you're a student.
Living in Northampton I always buy a One day travel card as part of my Off peak day return when I travel to London.
Why? Buying travelcards nowadays only makes sense when buying the 7 days one, I don't even get why there still are one day travel cards, or at least, why you can put them on Oyster.
NeoDerGrosse because it’s not worth getting an oyster card if you’re only using it once or twice a year, and thus likely to lose it?
@@lkchild I haven't been to London in years. Still haven't lost my oyster card, and it still worked last time I did happen to be there.
@@lkchild No problem, just use contactless instead.
Very useful
thanks geoff!!!
i cant wait for more uploads.
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Thank you for the tips! Some London Underground bashing for me is due!
Don’t forget Geoff. That the disabled;Ed railcard discount also applies during the peak times, so we get discount 24/7 on all tfl, Br journeys.
He mentions that in the description.
@@sbatty64 Ask a member of staff at the ticket machines or on the gate-line and they will do it fro you
Those are fantastic tips I must say :-). Certainly well recommended I do say :-). Have a nice evening and take care Geoff :-).
From your friend Foxy :-).
Thanks this has been super helpful
Geoff’s Oyster, I can see it now. In the future it will be in a museum
Where I live it's so much easier. There's 3 zones, and with our equivalent of a standard Oyster card it costs 0,91€ traveling within 1 zone; 1,08€ on 2 zones; and 1,19€ on 3 zones. You can travel as much as you please whenever you want, it will always cost the same.
Cheers Geoff just in time for my trip to London!
have fun:)
When we travelled on the morning 5:16 train from Chesham we were charged for a peak 1-9 Travelcard!
3:10 another point is that if you have a Travelcard covering say, zones 1 to 3 and you’re traveling outside that you only pay an “extension fare” ie pay the difference on top of that.
So a journey from zone 1 to 6 will still be significantly cheaper because zone 1 is covered.
Great video ! Like it a lot . I want more of this.
But as someone who has never been to London, you should do an Oyster/Fare video... but like for someone who has no idea of what zones are o what happened if you tour London in the underground and then tap out on the same station you came in
I agree for someone like myself living out of the London zones but quite frequently visiting I still have no idea IF an Oyster card is a better option for me as I usually get an all zone Travel Card for conveneience sakes as Im quite spontaneous in terms of travelling within London
Very fruitful information.
Within a month I cracked the Oyster card fare myself. I rented an apartment in Zone 3. Got an annual card from zone 1 to 2. Take a bus or walk to reach the station.
The no-zone bus is particularly relevant at interchanges. Going from Muswell Hill (zone 3) to Bank? (zone 1). Zones 1/2 travelcard - bus to Finsbury Park tube then change at Kings Cross for Northern line....
This is the content i like to see
Helpful tips
Thank you for sharing.
With a disabled railcard you get discount on peak as Jewell as off peak fares including both caps.
Thanks for making the video
Watched you yesterday on The Tube TV Show via UA-cam. Bad look on not getting the World Record! :)
I don't know if anywhere else has this, but in Ireland anyone with a disability or anyone thats a senior citizen can get a free travel pass that allows you to travel anywhere you want as many times as you want any time of day, and if you have a companion pass, you can take anyone over 16 on with you for free. This works on all public transport.
Good point about buses
Tip one explains as someone who used to live and work in zone 3 why I managed to completely miss that there was an evening peak.
Have you done, or will you do a video of tips for people visiting the UK? I know about the BritRail Pass, but I don't know if that would be better than the deals I could get via some of the Apps you've mentioned in various videos. I would be interested in both National Rail and TfL deals that I could get as a senior.
Good tips.
Very helpful tips, indeed. Regarding unlimited buses, the time limit is, officially, an hour, not 70 minutes. Besides, it is important to add that the trick won't work, unfortunately, if you have negative balance before you get on the second bus. If you're on, say, £1,30 when you hit the first bus, being left with £-0,20 when the second one comes, you'll get a red light and will be denied the trip by the driver.
Come to the Midlands on our trains and trams
So I'm going to London for 3 days in April and I've been doing a little research to find the cheapest way to use the tube. I have found this blue Oyster card, but I've also found something called the Oyster visitor card. Now I don't know what the difference is between these two, do you (or someone else in the comment section) know the difference? Thanks!
Does reverse commute on morning peak also work same as evening peak? Before 9:30am from Zone 1 to Zone 2 will be charged a regular fare for example?
Question for those wonderful people in the know. I regularly travel in from zone 6 to zone 1 within the morning peak times, however if I traveled the first leg of the journey on a bus and then only tapped in for national rail/the tube after 9.27, would I qualify for the off peak cap?
Pink reader is my favorite as I live between zone 2 and 3.
I live outside the zones but I can get a bus to Kingston because of the legendary 465
Thanks!
Does the 16-17 saver get any discount? Or do you still have to buy a 16+ zip?
Disabled Persons' Railcards are valid at peak times too. So you can use those to get a discount at any time.
With the paper travelcard (to use the 2 for 1 promotion) of 7 days from zones 1-2, if I want to go to Wembley stadium (zone 4), I can present the travelcard at the ticket office to pay in cash only the difference instead of full fare?
If not, I thought I'd get off at a station on the edge of zone 2, and re-enter using the Oyster PAYG to complete the journey to Wembley. It's a good idea?
*I already plan to use Oyster PAYG for the other 4 days of travel, including the day I arrive in London, so I already have Oyster at my disposal.
Hi, can you please give me some advice. I am going to London on Saturday 8/1/22 and will be travelling on Sunday 9/1/22 from Archway on Northern line to various stations within zone 1 and returning to Archway before travelling home. Is an oyster card or contactless best option.Thanks
Awesome, cool and wicked
I went back to University to do a Master's and a useful "perk" is as a full time student you can get a student Oyster card giving you 30% off INCLUDING season tickets
30% Student discount is ONLY on travelcard seasons. Single fares are at the adult rate.
I am soon going to need to travel by train from London to Leamington Spa and back approximately once a month. Is it worth paying that gold card you talk about? Any advice with trains, it seems there are dozens of companies and price differ from one day to the next. Not sure how to get the cheapest fare every time.
brilliant video geoff and very informative :)
I have travelled from Croydon (in Surrey) to Watford (Hertfordshire) on buses only and it cost me only £4.50 (but journey lasted between 4-6 hours)
Croydon is London actually hence the London Borough of Croydon it used to be in Surrey in 1965 geoff marshall has explained that in a video
With a travelcard I can get as far as Slough and Dorking on the TfL network even though they’re not in London
Nice 👍
Don’t forget the boundary extension tickets you can get if you have a season travelcard too! Once I found out about that I was kicking myself I didn’t know earlier...
I am looking at getting a zone 2-6 season ticket but will occasionally need to travel to zone 1 aswell, is this what you are referring to and if so how does it work?
@@rodthecod7157: The PAYG extension fares are useful and relatively well known about imo, but I was referring to also being able to do this to stations outside the fare zones too (e.g. with your z2-6 travelcard, you can get a paper ticket to certain stations like say Aylesbury, and that can be cheaper and gives you more flexibility of route)
For the pay as you go extension version, you just need to make sure your Oyster card has enough pay as you go credit to cover the charge for the zone your travelcard doesn't cover, so in your example you'd probably need to pay only £2.40 for the zone 1 portion, rather than paying the £5.10 peak/£3.10 off peak fare for a TFL zone 1-6 journey (and the equivalent for national rail/both).
If you go to a station with a TFL ticket machine, touch the "extend my travelcard" option and it should be relatively straightforward and guide you what you need to do for both your zone 1 example and travelling out of London.
Hello Geoff can you add your railcard and get the discount without asking to do it at a ticket office?
Interesting. I live outside of the London zones but quite frequently travel into London and typically get a Travelcard ( I like its convenience that I simply know it covers all zones and what it has cost) This typically will add about £6 to the cost. Is it possible for me to get an Oyster card and make savings?
Can I ask a question please? If I was traveling around on DLR and I tapped in at Stratford then went to Poplar, stayed there 20 mins then went to Beckton stayed there 20 mins then went to Canning Town stayed there for 1 hour then went to West Ham and tapped out. What would I be charged for this please
When crossrail opens, you ought to do a meetup
Set a date now, Geoff ... you can always keep putting it back !!
As an idea, everyone on the meetup/flash mob should be dressed as Prince and have a singalong. "Purple T...rain, PURPLE T...RAIN!" 🎶#PurpleTrain
Do you think Crossrail will ever open? In August 2018 we were assured that it was still on target to open in December 2018 and now there are question marks over an opening date in 2021? It's a fiasco and National Disgrace
2021 and mid 2022
I came to London last week after 11 and a half years. I was wondering if my Oyster would still work and if the money was still there. Answers: yes and yes!!! 😀
I'm more impressed that you had ur oyster for 11 and half years without losing it
Worth noting that trams also count towards the Bus Hopper fare, so you can ride on an unlimited number of trams and buses within 70 minutes for £1.50.
Does the Hopper fare mean that if you mistakenly "tap out" at your destination tram stop you won't get charged more?
@@K-o-RI would think so, since then in TfL's mind you are starting another journey which still counts towards the Hopper fare. I sometimes have to get off at a certain tram stop before my home to do something for 15-20 minutes and it doesn't charge me twice when I tap back on. And I don't think it is possible for any single tram journey to be 70 minutes anyway.
K.o.R: You shouldn’t get charged any extra for additional taps, provided that your first tram tap is the one that counts for the Hopper fare.
With that said (other than at Wimbledon) once you’ve tapped into the trams it’s not necessary to touch any other tram readers during a journey (even if you change trams) and if you’ve come from a bus then all of the bus and tram portions may be covered under a Hopper fare.
Do you just have to tap in say at 9.27/9.30 to get off peak? Do you have to tap out before 4.30 to get off peak? Or can you start your journey at 4.15 and finish at 5 and is that still off peak?
Since i don‘t find any information on the tfl website or anywhere else, can i top up my old visitor oyster card at gatwick Airport?
Traveling from Wembley central to SILVER STREET , AVOIDING zone one using overground, I checked so I change in hackney central and take another overground is that right ?
Any tips for travelling from zone 6 to 1 and back.... Also one worker stated you can't get discount on oyster if you travel at peak times is that true?. Thanks.....
I've got another one if your on unemployment benefit you can get a discount photo card that you pair with your oyster to make all bus and tram journeys half price with a daily bus cap of £2.25
Can the 16-25 railcard be used with a 16+ oyster photocard for a combined offer?
I am moving to Sidcup in Bexley but I can't see the station on the Tube map so am I taking the train to London or am I still taking the tube to London
Back in 2105 u could get an oyster card for 21 pounds and unlimited weekly travel in London irrespective of zones
Does 26-30 card is not only beneficial if you live outside London?
Some questions:
- If you hit the daily cap, do you still have to have enough money to enter as if you didn’t hit it yet
- At Heathrow, you get charged peak fares at all times if your journey starts/ends or goes through Zone 1, if you hit the off-peak daily cap, will you still get charged peak fares here?
What's the cheapest annual fare from Turnpike Lane Station via Green Park to Canary Wharf Station?
I'm happy to commute from nearby stations like finsbury Park or Tottenham hale if it would make the annual fare cheaper?
Buses did use to have zones though... if you look carefully at most bus stops you can grey tape covering the zone number at the top of the pole
Thankfully that stopped, buses are terrible enough as it is.
TheSniper9752: I have to say though that London buses (nowadays) are still relatively great and especially so when compared to elsewhere.
@@fetchstixRHD Don't get me wrong, the buses in the city are amazing. But as soon as you get to the extremities they drop in quality severely. The 66 for example which is local to me is trash tier; I have countless screenshots where a bus is atleast twenty minutes late, and where two of the same bus arrives at the same time. Alienating those who just miss the bus, by leaving them with atleast a 10 minute wait for the next one.
London fares have been flat since 2004, when Oyster was extended to the buses (necessitated by the Oyster reader not being able to know where you were going to get off)
what oyster card recharge should we go for if we want unlimited travel in a month, applicable for bus/train/tube?
I had no idea about the railcard thing! Do I have to ask at the station every single time though? I'm always in commuter rush, so might be difficult
No, ask a staff member to add the railcard discount to your Oyster card and it will stay on there until your railcard expires.
work on the railway and get a PRIV card eZ
or work for tfl and you'll be saving tonnes
Is the railcard thing new ? I swear you couldn't use that before
I've got a senior rail card and a gold card - hadn't realised there's an oyster discount! Any way to register with oyster you have one or other pf these cars rather than faffing around at the stations?
No, it has to be added to the physical Oyster card.
So one question, is it worth getting an Oyster card? You said bank cards and obviously Apple Pay works, but to the correct caps get applied? And are you able to use your 16-25 discount with them?
EVILBUNNY28 only worth getting an Oyster card if 1) you want a monthly/annual travelcard or 2) you want to apply a discount (cant on contactless) or 3) using cards abroad can incur extra fees
I've not had any luck with tidal fares. I think TfL and companies rely on passengers not putting in a claim for a refund.
What if I touch in at 5:55 in the morning and I touch out at 7:10 in the morning using an oyster card
Which fare will I be charged?
The off-peak price because of the touch in was before the peak hours or the peak price because I touched out during peak hours?
The time is when you touch in
Off-peak because you touched in before the peak began.
Take a look at Peak, Off-peak and caps on the Oyster Rail website linked above.
Thanks, guys. I used to live in London, but I've never figured out how this exact case works. I deliberately avoided those times.
However, I knew many tricks from Geoff's videos.
it's bit complicated, mate!
no it is not, use your for minute and you get it
In Paris. Only 75, 20 Euros a month for 5 zones. Whatever the number of trips or peak time Plus a 50% of fare price subsidized by your Employer !!
Can you do a test drive
I've got a question can you use national rail with the oyster card or bank or your train ticket in London zones the other day I thought could I go to London Bridge to London st pancuss or Finsbury Park instead of getting the tube cause the tube was packed and northern rail has longer trains with more room to sit
Yes. Oyster/contactless is valid on all National Rail services within the Oyster area.
Any advice on whch card to get if you're turning 31 in the next few months
What is the fare charged if you touch in and touch out at same station within 2-30 mins?
I use it everyday 😉
Hi everyone, need urgent help.
I will be travelling everyday for office from East Acton (Zone 2) to White City (Zone 2)
Which way of transportation will be the cheapest, tube or bus?
And which type of Oyster Card should I apply for?
Thank you so much in advance :)