Charlie Adelson “Bombshell”: He May Get a New Trial

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  • @SurvivingTheSurvivor
    @SurvivingTheSurvivor  11 днів тому +62

    We're here to share breaking news and discuss the case, the new developments and stay focused on Justice for Dan Markel and his family. This is by no means a place to harass or leave hateful messages about anyone--guests, the hosts, the audience or other creators. STS has a ZERO tolerance policy. Any hateful and/or threatening messages will be deleted and reported. And let's remember that hate and harassment eventually led to some of the very crimes we cover...-COE

    • @mn9120
      @mn9120 11 днів тому +2

      ❤👌🤝☝✋

    • @Mollica776
      @Mollica776 11 днів тому +1

      @@SurvivingTheSurvivor you are correct, I apologize .

    • @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive
      @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive 10 днів тому +1

      🚨🚨🚨Just a head up, someone using the handle @kao856 is leaving awful antisemitic comments under this video

    • @wildmercuryfilms
      @wildmercuryfilms 10 днів тому

      Dan is A LOT SMARTER than anyone gave him credit for. Creating a SITUATION LIKE THIS is The Goal for a Defense Attorney. IE: If he was found NOT GUILTY, that’s FOREVER, because of DOUBLE JEOPARDY, but if he LOSES, Dan CREATED GROUNDS FOR AN APPEAL. PURE GENIUS. PURE GENIUS. I bet Charlie is VERY HAPPY & GRATEFUL for Dan.

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 10 днів тому +2

      @@wildmercuryfilms - I seriously doubt Dan wanted to create this conflict situation which may or may not help his clients at all. Even if Charlie gets a new trial with Donna as his co-defendant at trial that’s not necessarily a good thing at all. Of course he’s got a life sentence so maybe he could make a better bargain if he gets a new trial? Donna get new counsel but may not want to be on joint trial with her son!

  • @missycohen26
    @missycohen26 11 днів тому +82

    My heart just breaks for Ruth, Phil, and Shelly. 💝

    • @wendybeveridge8174
      @wendybeveridge8174 11 днів тому +6

      At least they are in prison

    • @JackieOlantern
      @JackieOlantern 10 днів тому

      @@wendybeveridge8174AND likely blowing through all their money paying attorneys….

    • @josimpson7999
      @josimpson7999 10 днів тому +1

      Mine too. It’s absolutely horrendous 😢

    • @billdavis6900
      @billdavis6900 10 днів тому +2

      couldn’t agree more, the only consolation is that at least they are incarcerated. Donna is in a county jail until her trial which is way worse than prison. At best, all Charlie can get is a new trial, he’ll get convicted again.

    • @wildmercuryfilms
      @wildmercuryfilms 10 днів тому +1

      Dan is A LOT SMARTER than anyone gave him credit for. Creating a SITUATION LIKE THIS is The Goal for a Defense Attorney. IE: If he was found NOT GUILTY, that’s FOREVER, because of DOUBLE JEOPARDY, but if he LOSES, Dan CREATED GROUNDS FOR AN APPEAL. PURE GENIUS. PURE GENIUS. I bet Charlie is VERY HAPPY & GRATEFUL for Dan.

  • @m_christine1070
    @m_christine1070 11 днів тому +137

    Carl Steinbeck, repeatedly, publicly, warned about conflict of interest. From the very beginning!

    • @tiffaninichole
      @tiffaninichole 11 днів тому +34

      Carl did an amazing live tonight too❤

    • @Hollylockes
      @Hollylockes 11 днів тому +28

      Yes he called this long ago.

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 11 днів тому +21

      Carl for the win#22

    • @terripetre8159
      @terripetre8159 11 днів тому +30

      Carl Steinbeck is the lawyer that knows the law! Respect the man tremendously!

    • @Jennifermcintyre
      @Jennifermcintyre 11 днів тому +21

      Yeah, Carl’s been all over this clear and imminent danger since Donna was arrested . and meanwhile there’s the Tallahassee Atty, who has covered his case for a very long time and has been defending Dan rashbaum up and down… He keeps claiming none of this was a big deal … how the hell can somebody say this was not a big deal???

  • @alfen0218
    @alfen0218 10 днів тому +11

    How many lawyers have been on this show without seeing the obvious, only yak yak yak

  • @Ladyshore
    @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +120

    Carl Steinbeck was 100 percent right regarding the conflict a long time ago.

    • @BestAntiq
      @BestAntiq 11 днів тому +6

      YES!

    • @JustMe-px9qy
      @JustMe-px9qy 11 днів тому +9

      @@GrayCrosby - Carl seems very angry and hostile

    • @adrienneromelle2816
      @adrienneromelle2816 11 днів тому +9

      @@GrayCrosby Well said! I am sick and tired of all these morons that follow Steinbeck and attribute him all sort of miracles. Steinbeck does not seem to have much experience in the civilian world as a Criminal attorney, yet he is arrogant, thinks he knows everything and predicts like a psychic. Law is totally unpredictable so are juries!

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +17

      @@GrayCrosby wrong. He has predicted and talked about this conflict for months !

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +12

      @@JustMe-px9qy very educated, brilliant Attorney !!!

  • @joeindyjoeindy3078
    @joeindyjoeindy3078 11 днів тому +112

    This is a gift for Charlie....if he doesn't throw Wendi under the bus he is a fool.

    • @phillipmartinez9232
      @phillipmartinez9232 11 днів тому +15

      Yeah he is and maybe it's a blessing in disguise in that respect. I think both them see how rotten she is now to cutting them off after all that.

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 11 днів тому +15

      All the Adelsons Inn Flori DA PRISONS

    • @phillipmartinez9232
      @phillipmartinez9232 11 днів тому +9

      @@lindamon5101 hopefully soon. Be patient tho Wendy still young and thinks she gotten away with it. No statue of limitations on murder either who knows what guy she's with now maybe he gives new evidence or something else like that to alot could happen

    • @helloshiny8475
      @helloshiny8475 11 днів тому +7

      it's a gift for all of us. another whole year of entertainment, hit the motherload, and the Wendi trial is gonna be like the last episode of LOST. except unlike LOST we won't have lost interest by then even if it is like 5 years...

    • @helloshiny8475
      @helloshiny8475 11 днів тому +3

      @@lindamon5101oh that's a great meme to make, for the Adelsons shitty rental units or for Charlie's house . Adelsons Inn ( jail )

  • @Tami-l3d
    @Tami-l3d 11 днів тому +90

    Rashbaum needs to be DISBARRED for all of this!! Greedy SOB has tainted all of these trials! Unbelievable!!

    • @BigTex99
      @BigTex99 11 днів тому +3

      Absolutely 💯

    • @dogcrazy25
      @dogcrazy25 11 днів тому +7

      Im not so sure. There were judges, numerous attorneys, the Lawtube community, no one brought this up until now.

    • @jmpa3915
      @jmpa3915 11 днів тому

      @@dogcrazy25BS

    • @rosanne7804
      @rosanne7804 11 днів тому +15

      @@dogcrazy25There were UA-cam creators (who are attorneys) who called this from the beginning. Carl Steinbeck being one of them.

    • @laurablake-fi8zx
      @laurablake-fi8zx 11 днів тому +2

      They should try them together now! Get them both in prison and then get Wendi and Harvey already!!!!

  • @lynntolleson6688
    @lynntolleson6688 11 днів тому +13

    Joel thank you and everyone there (including Tim and other best guests in true crime) for the long hours away from your family, travel, sleep loss and energy to keep us informed. Your commitment to ethical and real journalism is so appreciated. Proud to be a subscriber! ❤ Justice for Dan/ Peace for the Markels

  • @ylekiote99999
    @ylekiote99999 11 днів тому +40

    Might be a blessing in disguise. Wendi may very well think she is free and clear, but now that Charlie has incentive to make a deal, he may actually flip on her. She didn't win any favors from Charlie or Donna either by distancing herself from them right after the sh!t hit the fan.

    • @m.g.2645
      @m.g.2645 10 днів тому +2

      🙏🙏🙏

    • @phillipmartinez9232
      @phillipmartinez9232 10 днів тому +2

      Exactly right. Evidence won't change for him and they came out with the ridiculous extortion defense because they had very little to work with so he gets new trial, what do they do? same ridiculous defense or he's cuts deal to testify against Wendy. What is better option? I bet she is hoping more than anyone he doesn't get a 2nd go maybe prosecution doesn't even contest it because really what do they lose other than a little more time which they've been very patient from get go some murders never get solved and some after years, decades etc so they are still on good time. I know alot aren't patient and want her arrested yesterday but this might be best case scenario for that.

    • @elizacourtney7986
      @elizacourtney7986 10 днів тому +2

      I like your thinking. 😊

    • @ylekiote99999
      @ylekiote99999 10 днів тому +4

      @@phillipmartinez9232 Also, half of Charlie's conversations with his mother when he was in jail was him complaining about how Wendi pretty much screwed him over. I am sure that pot is just boiling over after spending a couple of years in jail now.

    • @whererosemaryflourishes
      @whererosemaryflourishes 10 днів тому +3

      This is how I'm choosing to see it too. This could definitely be a blessing in disguise.

  • @dee1955
    @dee1955 11 днів тому +27

    It’s troubling that you all have had this bromance with Rashbaum, with Tim and should have listened to Carl from the get go and Mentor Lawyer should never have shamed Patty.

  • @dee1955
    @dee1955 11 днів тому +69

    Carl has been right from day one.

  • @Tami-l3d
    @Tami-l3d 11 днів тому +21

    I feel so bad for Phil, Ruth Markel and Shelly.

  • @lindamcgough3645
    @lindamcgough3645 11 днів тому +30

    Carl Steinbeck has been validated big time. Egg on a lot of faces of those who said this was nothing to worry about.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому +2

      Who are you claiming said "nothing to worry about?

    • @josimpson7999
      @josimpson7999 10 днів тому +4

      @@AsidebarHere you go again!

  • @terripetre8159
    @terripetre8159 11 днів тому +48

    Carl Steinbeck did not miss it!
    He has the best podcast and knows the law.

  • @TheHolliHolland
    @TheHolliHolland 11 днів тому +53

    Agree, Tim is an excellent legal commentator. He explains things so well.

    • @terripetre8159
      @terripetre8159 11 днів тому +6

      Tim Jensen has defended Rashbaum several times!!!
      Now TJ acts like he knew this conflict was going to cause legal means for Charlie Adelson to appeal. Be honest!

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 11 днів тому +5

      Jansen was saying the Rashbaum conflict wasn't a problem a few months ago, now here we are.
      So he is not an "excellent legal commentator"
      Go back and watch his statements on this show, whenever the conflict was discussed Jansen said it was waiveable 😂😂🤡

    • @JackieOlantern
      @JackieOlantern 10 днів тому +1

      You’re right. I love listening to him.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      @@terripetre8159 Tim Jansen is right and he never defended Dan when it was not deserved.

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 10 днів тому

      @@terripetre8159 - it’s so easy to say after the fact what another lawyer should or shouldn’t do! Hindsight is 20/20! Facts are hearings on these conflicts did take place. Judge said Ok to go ahead. Now there’s problems and everyone seems to blame Dan lot Judge? Truthfully I think they all did what they thought was best. No one was acting in bad faith or unethical or acting illegal. It’s not a perfect legal system! HINDSIGHT is 20-20 and Dan and the Judge would probably do somethings differently. Maybe the prosecutor too!

  • @karlastewart4537
    @karlastewart4537 11 днів тому +39

    I can't even begin to imagine how Phil and Ruth Markel may be feeling about all of this news regarding Charlie and Donna both. I pray for them daily that they receive the justice they rightfully deserve. This is an absolute shame and miscarriage of justice.

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +8

      Very sad for the victims. Markel family 🙏🙏🙏

    • @debraguzman8522
      @debraguzman8522 11 днів тому +1

      You are so on point so sick of Adelsons... the focus should remain on the victim and his family

    • @wildmercuryfilms
      @wildmercuryfilms 10 днів тому

      Dan is A LOT SMARTER than anyone gave him credit for. Creating a SITUATION LIKE THIS is The Goal for a Defense Attorney. IE: If he was found NOT GUILTY, that’s FOREVER, because of DOUBLE JEOPARDY, but if he LOSES, Dan CREATED GROUNDS FOR AN APPEAL. PURE GENIUS. PURE GENIUS. I bet Charlie is VERY HAPPY & GRATEFUL for Dan.

  • @Midge0314
    @Midge0314 10 днів тому +7

    I enjoy listening to Tim, he explains everything so well without being condescending. As far as not bashing Raushbaum on a live, I appreciate that also. He’s a gentleman and doesn’t feel the need to do that to someone in his profession. What he personally thinks of fellow attorneys is his business.

  • @JourneytoJustice2024
    @JourneytoJustice2024 11 днів тому +19

    New trial not withstanding, all the Adelsons belong behind bars.

    • @m.g.2645
      @m.g.2645 10 днів тому +1

      😉👏🎯💗⚖️

  • @kathyslocombe1182
    @kathyslocombe1182 11 днів тому +8

    I absolutely love your channel and Tim Jansen is the Best Guest. I'm a Canadian and wish our justice system allowed cameras in the courtroom to afford us the actuality that we see in US courts. I did watch the Charlie Adelson trial, all of your videos on this matter and your interview with Dan Rashbaum and working with lawyers for over 30 years in Ontario and British Columbia, I can't imagine that Rashbaum's partners/law firm didn't intravene with this conflict through conflict checks because they/it would be brought up before the Provinces' Benchers' Committee and this case, I can't imagine, would be at this point where it is an absolute mess. Joel, you and the COE and your guests, especially Tim Jansen, explain the cases in such great detail and, again, I wish we had the same protocol in Canada.

  • @abigailh7715
    @abigailh7715 11 днів тому +39

    Tim not everyone missed it - you know Carl called it from day one

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому +4

      Tim is saying everyone missed that Dan Rashbaum lied about having waivers. EVERYONE knew and said Dan had a conflict is what the judge asked in open court about the conflict that dan stated he had waivers. Carl is NOT anything special.

    • @heronimushertz9256
      @heronimushertz9256 10 днів тому

      Unwatchable clown.

    • @dgibb4371
      @dgibb4371 10 днів тому +1

      @@abigailh7715 Tim is so 😍😍😍😍 over Wendi that he barely has enough blood to keep the brain cells fired up any time he’s gushing, I mean commenting, on Wendi and the Adelsons. Tim wants that call from Wendy SOOOO bad 🤓😍❤️

  • @CuriousGirl2
    @CuriousGirl2 11 днів тому +27

    Oh this all makes me so so so angry. Rash should have been off these cases...period!!!

  • @giffordcl50
    @giffordcl50 11 днів тому +95

    !!!!Correction!!! Carl did not miss it! He called it from the beginning. Drop the Egos!! Patty was correct to file a Bar Complaint and yall beat her up about it! Everyone should apologize to her and Carl for all the grief everyone had thrown to them. !! Ty

    • @tiffaninichole
      @tiffaninichole 11 днів тому +17

      THIS COMMENT!!❤❤❤❤

    • @m_christine1070
      @m_christine1070 11 днів тому +15

      🎯💯

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +15

      Correct 👍

    • @flopicarello313
      @flopicarello313 11 днів тому +10

      Correct!

    • @carina-jaipaul1342
      @carina-jaipaul1342 11 днів тому +15

      I stand by Carl and Patty… Carl was 100% correct and he saw this happening from a mile away.. Patty did the right thing by filing a bar complaint against DR..

  • @Latoya-
    @Latoya- 11 днів тому +12

    I'm loving the back to coverage STS! It's even neat to see the "real life moments happen and the juggling things while we're making this all work out", to bring US the latest newsss, as Joel would say lol. Thank you STS Nation!

    • @Latoya-
      @Latoya- 11 днів тому

      To add-- this is ton of legal stuff to keep up and understand.. but I have to wonder if Dan R kinda knew what he was doing ?? 🤔 I won't think much deeper than that about it, but I don't think it's an unfair question. These lawyers are smart people lol.

  • @CuriousGirl2
    @CuriousGirl2 11 днів тому +32

    and how is Everett gonna deny this at this point? I am furious for the Markels.

    • @BigTex99
      @BigTex99 11 днів тому

      Judge Everett got caught sleeping at the wheel ... he could have prevented all of this !!

  • @jodyroeser4363
    @jodyroeser4363 11 днів тому +23

    Shady shady shady….carl hit this mess on day one!

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому +1

      Carl did not

    • @josimpson7999
      @josimpson7999 10 днів тому +5

      @@Asidebar Yes he did! Get off his back.

    • @abigailh7715
      @abigailh7715 10 днів тому

      ​@@AsidebarGet over it Bitter Betty

    • @JoanByrne-x8q
      @JoanByrne-x8q 9 днів тому

      Yes he did,go back listen to previous shows!!!

  • @JoleneMarie777
    @JoleneMarie777 11 днів тому +10

    Glad I found this channel! Great panel, thank you!
    What a BOMBSHELL 🫣

  • @cinziamargaretti
    @cinziamargaretti 11 днів тому +45

    Carl called it!!!!

    • @BigTex99
      @BigTex99 11 днів тому +10

      Carl us the GOAT !!

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому +2

      EVERYONE said Dan Rashbaum had a conflict. Carl was no exception.

    • @abigailh7715
      @abigailh7715 10 днів тому +2

      ​@@Asidebar You're wrong. ML and Tim and🎉 many others including the state saw it as a nothing burger

    • @jennyray1476
      @jennyray1476 9 днів тому

      Carl didn't say anything till Donna's trial, he didn't catch it during Charlie's at all

    • @jennyray1476
      @jennyray1476 9 днів тому

      Everyone said it was a conflict during Donna's trial not just Carl

  • @Smag-wm4bx
    @Smag-wm4bx 10 днів тому +8

    The Judge CONSTANTLY SAID CONFLICT TO EVERYONE ON CHARLIE & MOMS TEAM..but ALL agreed to go forward..

  • @ladyyi
    @ladyyi 10 днів тому +5

    Carl Steinbeck has been saying this for weeks! Carl is spot on!,,

  • @condor5635
    @condor5635 11 днів тому +11

    I’m sorry but this is pure stupidity and a very bad look for justice on all fronts. Tim explains it so clearly. How this got by the ‘experts’ for so many months is beyond comprehension. Pure incompetence.

  • @Steve-cw1zo
    @Steve-cw1zo 11 днів тому +35

    After tasting prison, Charlie will roll on everyone if granted a new trial.

    • @surgedeb
      @surgedeb 11 днів тому +7

      That's what I want to believe is going to happen. He's had enough time to think in prison. He wants to eventually get out.

    • @tiffaninichole
      @tiffaninichole 11 днів тому +6

      Exactly! And I don’t want him out but the fact that’s he’s nearing 50.. give him a firm 25 years to give up Wendi!

    • @Sweetpea064
      @Sweetpea064 11 днів тому +13

      Donna isn’t in Charlie’s ear every day anymore telling him not to flip on Wendi. Actually, this is probably the first time he’s ever been free to think for himself in his entire life.

    • @josimpson7999
      @josimpson7999 10 днів тому +5

      I think given even a smidgen of a chance now, he’ll certainly drop Wendi in it! Not his awful mother though.

    • @phillipmartinez9232
      @phillipmartinez9232 10 днів тому +1

      Exactly and what does do if gets new trial, evidence is same reason they had to come up with the extortion nonsense little to work with. So use similar same defense or testify and get deal. Especially how she cut him off after trial not in the years before she loved him so much her favorite brother who always protected her lol i bet she hoped more than anyone he doesn't get new trial.

  • @bbhere2002
    @bbhere2002 11 днів тому +8

    Appreciate the update and commentary

  • @karlastewart4537
    @karlastewart4537 11 днів тому +33

    DAN RASHBAUM NEEDS HIS BAR LICENSE REVOKED!

    • @BigTex99
      @BigTex99 11 днів тому +2

      Absolutely agree !! 💯

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 10 днів тому

      He had waivers and the Florida Supreme Court has said multiple representation is ok with a potential conflict as long as there is a valid waiver by the clients. That’s what many lawyers do in these types of situations. It happens all the time in private practice. Problems still happen like here because Clint’s change their minds but that doesn’t make it unethical per the SCt!

  • @Globelle
    @Globelle 11 днів тому +14

    Thank you Patty's Playhouse for putting in a complaint whether or not the barr cares about us out of the legal community. At least YOU did it! All these attorneys and nobody saw ALL of this coming from the very beginning with Rashbaum representing Charlie after Donna. What a mess. God Bless the Markels

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      Patty is not the only one to have filed a misconduct complaint against Dan Rashbaum.

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle 10 днів тому +4

      @@Asidebar I know this. I was just publicly thanking her as a non legal Podcaster. Have a great day!

  • @karenaltschwager5929
    @karenaltschwager5929 11 днів тому +11

    Please somebody get these 2 murderers a lawyer who convinces them to plead guilty

  • @debraward1813
    @debraward1813 11 днів тому +10

    OMG, I cannot imagine what Dan Markel's family, especially his parents are going through and their thoughts about this. This has to be devastating to them. ROSH needs to be disbarred. This whole case within cases is a circus. Disgusting!

  • @terripetre8159
    @terripetre8159 11 днів тому +31

    Lawyer Carl Steinbeck called this conflict out months ago!!

    • @terripetre8159
      @terripetre8159 11 днів тому +9

      Carl sure did!!! He was the ONLY one who did.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 11 днів тому

      @@terripetre8159 That is untruthful

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      @@terripetre8159 Carl was one of EVERYONE that said Dan had a conflict.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      Tim and everyone else called out the conflict but Dan Rashbaum lied to the court saying he had waivers.

    • @williamthurlow9889
      @williamthurlow9889 10 днів тому

      Carl called out conflict when Donna hired Rashbaum but said nothing when Charlie hires rashbaum

  • @JCP58
    @JCP58 11 днів тому +8

    With all the lawyers, DA's, judges and law professors involved in this case or commenting about it online, why did no one see this coming and make a bigger deal of it before it actually happened???

    • @lisainthelab
      @lisainthelab 11 днів тому +3

      I think no one expected Charlie to refuse to testify for his mom is all it is. They were so close and so tight. The fact that he essentially put a stop to her trial and is making her wait another whole year to have it happen -- I just don't think that was something people saw coming. I understand he's a POS, but when it comes to your mom........I could never do it to mine and I'm surprised Charlie did it to his.

  • @bocajoanne
    @bocajoanne 11 днів тому +2

    There's Joel, always bringing us the latest no matter what time of day or night.

  • @rochelle5266
    @rochelle5266 11 днів тому +12

    I bet Harvey has already filed a lawsuit against Rashy for half his money back for both CA & DA.

  • @tanjatalyancich9812
    @tanjatalyancich9812 11 днів тому +24

    I’m sorry, what a royal F up this is. Why on earth did this trial go ahead if there was “a conflict” then? Why was this not picked up then? 🤯

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +8

      It was by a few. No one listened.

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 10 днів тому +1

      No a clear conflict because of the waivers described in court and not opposed by the prosecutors or judge. Clients were questioned about the conflict and waived it!

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 10 днів тому

      @@rembo183 yes and you can change your mind at any time due to “Waiver” so really it was meaningless, whether it was signed or not. Therefore the conflict of interest still remained. Here is the result.

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 10 днів тому

      @@Ladyshore - You probably know the courts distinguish between potential and actual conflicts. They allow representation in potential conflicts.

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 10 днів тому +1

      @@Ladyshore - Defense lawyers do represent codefendants and it is allowed as here when the courts find there has been a knowing intelligently and voluntarily made waiver of independent individual counsel. Obviously it’s a bad idea as illustrated in this mess! The better course is get your OWN CONFLICT FREE LAWYER! However you are guaranteed counsel of your choice if you can afford one. Donna Adelson and Charlie had the money and both desired Rashbaum’s assistance even though there was a POTENTIAL CONFLICT. Rashbaum felt it was ok since he had the required waivers. I hear some legal “experts” say that this was unwaivable conflict and unethical so he should be disbarred or punished for unethical practice! Hogwash! He was following the law but he was on thin ice as it turned out. Hindsight is 20/20 and I’m sure he’ll be more cautious in the future.

  • @ylekiote99999
    @ylekiote99999 11 днів тому +14

    Charlie will get convicted again in a re-trial. I think he knows that, and understands the only way he gets a reduced sentence is if he implicates Wendi. I don't think there is much love loss between them now.

  • @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive
    @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive 11 днів тому +12

    Rashbaum’s ego and insatiable greed are only rivaled by his incompetence 💯

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 6 днів тому

      @@KaylanTheAggressiveProgressivethat’s unfair and nasty

  • @mary-londoneldred4431
    @mary-londoneldred4431 10 днів тому +1

    You guys are amazing!! Thanks Tim!

  • @henchyheld3925
    @henchyheld3925 10 днів тому +5

    Poor Markel Family. What a setback. 😢

  • @lilyofthevalley54
    @lilyofthevalley54 11 днів тому +8

    I am a high school graduate only and I wondered immediately about the conflict!
    It sounds like a defense ploy? From the beginning?
    Nah.?
    Why did the judge let this happen?

    • @dina6650
      @dina6650 11 днів тому

      I guess sitting on the bench is a learning process.

  • @6jjbncam9
    @6jjbncam9 11 днів тому +7

    The case that keeps on giving!

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle 11 днів тому +2

      Giving nothing but grief to victims. The Markels have been through so much and the Adelsons keep making things worse as if that is even possible.

  • @marybinnie4741
    @marybinnie4741 11 днів тому +6

    And so the heartbreak continues for the markel family 😢 justice for dan and the markel family

  • @stardogs7462
    @stardogs7462 10 днів тому +4

    Carl Steinbeck has been saying this from the start ... They should have arrested and tried them all together .. what a mess ... Feel so sorry for the markels

  • @lisacox1480
    @lisacox1480 10 днів тому +1

    You guys are awesome I appreciate you !!!!

  • @Luvscience069
    @Luvscience069 11 днів тому +5

    Joel you need a vacation after all this. Your working your butt off for us. Thank you

  • @mondoenterprises6710
    @mondoenterprises6710 11 днів тому +10

    Whose responsibility is it to oversee these lawyers? My God!

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      When Dan Rashbaum an attorney an officer of the court stated in open court he had waivers a judge accepts that as truthful. Dan lied and now he will be held accountable by the Florida Bar.

    • @rembo183
      @rembo183 6 днів тому

      @@mondoenterprises6710 …answer- The Florida Bar and the Courts which monitor these cases!

  • @gkolluru
    @gkolluru 10 днів тому +3

    Carl Steinbeck called it. I hope the Markels stay strong.

  • @lisainthelab
    @lisainthelab 11 днів тому +6

    omg the poor Markels. And poor Georgia & Sarah Kathryn. What a mess. THANK YOU SO MUCH Tim for teaching us so much and Joel for your consistently amazing coverage.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      Tim is the BEST!

  • @G-Lander388
    @G-Lander388 6 днів тому +1

    Carl Steinbeck called it unapologetically from day one

  • @Jennifermcintyre
    @Jennifermcintyre 11 днів тому +3

    I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to know how the Local Tallahassee attorney following this case for years is consistently and wholeheartedly proclaiming that none of this is a big deal and none of the scrutiny is warranted. It makes no damn sense. He went and played tennis with Rashbaum one time and now he’s running defense for him after he’s made horrific decisions with catastrophic consequences for his unethical actions.

  • @bbhere2002
    @bbhere2002 11 днів тому +20

    I call trickery on all the attnys

  • @jeanniegreenwald8026
    @jeanniegreenwald8026 11 днів тому +6

    Thanks for this update!

  • @joannerutland1878
    @joannerutland1878 11 днів тому +10

    What a waste of time and money!!! The pain and emotional agony for the Markel family!!! Awful!!!

    • @TT-cj3ek
      @TT-cj3ek 8 днів тому

      If this causes Charlie to fess up about Wendi’s involvement, I think it would be worth it to them . She was his wife at one time , the mother of his children , She had an obligation and moral compass of parental responsibility that she failed at badly . This officially and from the beginning is all about her . Wendi is a fraud , a chameleon, and I doubt she even knows whom she really is . But yet she’s out there living her best life.

  • @MaryAnne-q6m
    @MaryAnne-q6m 11 днів тому +3

    I agree with everyone saying Tim is the BEST! I could listen to him for HOURS!

  • @juanacastillo7154
    @juanacastillo7154 10 днів тому +8

    All We want is Wendy convicted 👍⚖️

    • @Ramager580
      @Ramager580 8 днів тому +1

      Go get her, she has a totally different lawyer

  • @Hof79905
    @Hof79905 11 днів тому +4

    This case will never end.

  • @Kangarooleathershoe.
    @Kangarooleathershoe. 6 днів тому +1

    The maestro continues to earn his nickname.

  • @abigailh7715
    @abigailh7715 11 днів тому +12

    Wendi should be very afraid now. There's no escaping justice now! Tik tock. Get ready for the cuffs Wendi - they're coming for you verrry soon....

    • @m.g.2645
      @m.g.2645 10 днів тому +3

      ✨Wendi, Wendi, Wendi...⚖️

    • @phillipmartinez9232
      @phillipmartinez9232 10 днів тому +2

      Yup if he gets new trial evidence doesn't change, reason defense had to come up with the extortion story little to work with so do they have similar nonsense story or roll dice again to get same sentence or cut deal to get lesser time especially after she cut him off only after the conviction though on advice of her lawyer. I bet she is hoping more than anyone he don't get new trial.

  • @LiftWriteLove
    @LiftWriteLove 10 днів тому +2

    This is awful for the Markel’s. I can’t even imagine how they are feeling.

  • @davidprice6027
    @davidprice6027 10 днів тому +3

    Absolutely 💯 % unadulterated BRILLIANT strategy! Charlie's Appellate lawyer is the REAL DEAL! Raushbaum isn’t smart enough to tank the case imho......SAY HELLO to the Evidentiary HEARING folks!! Saying hello from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 (Danny's 2nd home after Montreal in la belle Province...)

  • @SonyaHarshman
    @SonyaHarshman 11 днів тому +5

    I'm not a lawyer but, I've known from the start this was a conflict. Doesn't say much for the judges in Tallahassee now does it? Uncommon sense? Believing, this was completely premeditated for a long time.

  • @Poolajo3814
    @Poolajo3814 4 дні тому +1

    Rashbaum is not a criminal defense attorney. Its incompetence on top of conflict.

  • @dee1955
    @dee1955 11 днів тому +22

    Tim was never for trying or even for arresting the Adelson family together. Carl always was

    • @JustMe-px9qy
      @JustMe-px9qy 11 днів тому +6

      @@dee1955 - you know who else isn’t for trying the Adelson family together??
      Georgia and her boss.
      So far…they have 4 convictions…so I trust them over an angry rando like CS.

    • @dee1955
      @dee1955 11 днів тому +7

      @@JustMe-px9qy maybe Georgia couldn’t, wasn’t allowed to. Carl was right from the get go

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@JustMe-px9qy
      Yet Georgia and her boss didn't see the obvious conflict, that has now caused this. How ironic.
      CS isn't a rando. YT commenters are randos.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому +1

      If you had any legal education you might understand what they all could not be arrested and/or all go to trial together.

    • @josimpson7999
      @josimpson7999 10 днів тому +3

      ⁠@@AsidebarIf you had an education, you’d ensure your sentence was correct grammar.

  • @jackyjoe10
    @jackyjoe10 11 днів тому +22

    Rashbum just moved into his new multi-million dollar home with money he made of the Adelsons. He's as bad as they are. What a putz

    • @helloshiny8475
      @helloshiny8475 11 днів тому +3

      he might just end up being next door neighbour to Chuckles yet. imagine that fall. owwch!

    • @Ms100874
      @Ms100874 11 днів тому +2

      Did he? Wow!

    • @BigTex99
      @BigTex99 11 днів тому +1

      Rashbaum needs to sell his home now to hire a lawyer to keep him from getting disbarred... Greedy unethical bastard

    • @jmpa3915
      @jmpa3915 11 днів тому +1

      @@Ms100874yes he had his eye on moving on up. Even had his pathetic wife lunching w Gma Gotti. Set her up to fail bc of their insatiable greed. We all said it frm the start! Ca$hbum !

    • @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive
      @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive 11 днів тому +2

      @@Ms100874Yep and it’s gaudy as all hell too🤣🤣🤣

  • @supremlyfoxylass
    @supremlyfoxylass 11 днів тому +17

    Tim all the comments about having them all in the same trial is because of Carl Steinbeck constantly saying that’s what should have happened .

    • @Ladyshore
      @Ladyshore 11 днів тому +14

      Can’t go wrong with Steinbeck. Simply the best.

    • @supremlyfoxylass
      @supremlyfoxylass 11 днів тому +1

      @@Ladyshore nope not even close

  • @supremlyfoxylass
    @supremlyfoxylass 11 днів тому +22

    We knew the appeal was coming .

    • @emmyrose1802
      @emmyrose1802 11 днів тому +5

      I think because he might actually get a hearing. 😢hope not.

    • @iveliserojas612
      @iveliserojas612 11 днів тому +8

      He still going to be found guilty to much against him

    • @CharlyRomeo-vb6el
      @CharlyRomeo-vb6el 11 днів тому +1

      Hopefully the truth will come out this time and Charlie will be exonerated

    • @josephbaker707
      @josephbaker707 11 днів тому +3

      You want Charlie to be exonerated? That’s disturbing.

    • @jmpa3915
      @jmpa3915 11 днів тому

      @@CharlyRomeo-vb6elYeah right. Your delusional

  • @tiffaninichole
    @tiffaninichole 11 днів тому +11

    The speed with which I clicked on this video!

  • @janeelliott999
    @janeelliott999 11 днів тому +4

    This is pathetic! Someone should be paying for all of this cost.. the taxpayers should be outraged..

  • @lindamcgough3645
    @lindamcgough3645 11 днів тому +3

    Charlie WILL 100% gwt a new trial. Thanks Rash!

  • @surgedeb
    @surgedeb 11 днів тому +9

    This is devastating 😔 A miscarriage of justice and Floriduh should be ashamed. SMDH

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 10 днів тому

      This is not on Florida.

    • @surgedeb
      @surgedeb 10 днів тому

      @@Asidebar Yes the hell it is.

  • @Gigi22666
    @Gigi22666 11 днів тому +11

    Good Grief!!! Tim thanks for your informative explanation of this mess!

  • @hopeg8031
    @hopeg8031 11 днів тому +2

    How did they not see this coming? I remember thinking it was a conflict of interest the first time I heard of Dan possibly representing Donna.

  • @lauraglass1558
    @lauraglass1558 11 днів тому +12

    Sigfredo and Katie were tried together and they were co-conspirators, so why can’t Charlie and Donna be tried together?

    • @JustMe-px9qy
      @JustMe-px9qy 11 днів тому

      Sig and Katie had different attorneys

    • @lauraglass1558
      @lauraglass1558 11 днів тому

      And so would Donna and Charlie (have new,different attorneys) but Tim said that they couldn’t be tried together because they couldnt testify against each other. Katie testified at their joint trial.

    • @gracielaponte
      @gracielaponte 11 днів тому +1

      Facts were different

    • @JustMe-px9qy
      @JustMe-px9qy 11 днів тому +1

      @@lauraglass1558 - Good point. Charlie seems to have good attorneys handling his appeal. Maybe Sig and Katie didn’t have that

    • @tiffaninichole
      @tiffaninichole 11 днів тому +1

      They can! I love Tim but he is wrong on this

  • @ninastanek3388
    @ninastanek3388 11 днів тому +11

    It was clear Dan Rashbaum had a conflict with representing Charlie. He was his parents lawyer and potential co-conspirators. I‘m not a lawyer but it never seemed to be right. Now they have the disaster

    • @bekindrewind9675
      @bekindrewind9675 11 днів тому +1

      Rashbaum himself said it was a conflict but a waivable one

    • @nanamo3773
      @nanamo3773 11 днів тому

      ​@@bekindrewind9675true, why would he admit to it but still not get the paperwork from all parties involved. What a putz!

    • @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive
      @KaylanTheAggressiveProgressive 11 днів тому

      @@nanamo3773because he’s incompetent

  • @mondoenterprises6710
    @mondoenterprises6710 11 днів тому +5

    Will Rash owe the state of Florida quite the court and trial costs for malpractice?

  • @terripetre8159
    @terripetre8159 8 днів тому +2

    Attorney Carl Steinbeck predicted this conflict from the beginning.

  • @shmaisrael3is1
    @shmaisrael3is1 11 днів тому +7

    The answer to this will still be the same. The ONLY person that can corroborate his story is the person who is currently sitting in jail right now without a lawyer. She kept a list of people who "wronged her" in her mind. She will simply add Dr. Adelson to the list. AAAAAAAAAND lets not forget that even though he gets a new trial, will the evidence stand against the extortion story?! I believe so! Just because he is granted a new trial through a technicality, doesn't necessarily mean he will have a different result.

  • @shaulal.8598
    @shaulal.8598 11 днів тому +3

    Thanks!

  • @lindamcgough3645
    @lindamcgough3645 11 днів тому +3

    Everyone did not miss it! How many criticised the lawyer who did not miss it?

  • @Ron.Jeremy.Hedgehog
    @Ron.Jeremy.Hedgehog 11 днів тому +9

    The GREATEST GUESTS? lol
    Carl Steinbeck called this from DAY ONE! TIM NEVER DID HE SAID CASE MOVES FORWARD.
    WHY IS HE NOT ON HERE COE???

  • @Marcella-in-Kentucky
    @Marcella-in-Kentucky 8 днів тому +1

    What a mess Dan Rashbaum made! What a waste of money and courts time. Arrest them all and have one trial. Be done with this family.

  • @Sidebarbie
    @Sidebarbie 11 днів тому +6

    Rashbaum, the judge, and the prosecutor all failed the Markels.

  • @Villianelles_Boots
    @Villianelles_Boots 10 днів тому +3

    This fully explains Charlie’s smug grin in his most recent photo. 🤨

  • @TT-cj3ek
    @TT-cj3ek 8 днів тому +2

    I think Wendi is panicking. If Charlie gets a fresh new chance at a new start from scratch trial. The state can use this as bargaining power to cut a deal if Charlie gives up Wendi’s involvement. Charlie has had a taste of what a life sentence feels like . I’m sure he’d rather have a chance at freedom someday, and he has had a good while to think this scenario through , without momma Donna there to influence his thoughts and decisions.

  • @tiahbawa5771
    @tiahbawa5771 11 днів тому +2

    What I remember is that at the time of Rashbaum making the move to defend Charlie, Donna and Harvey had not been charged for anything and Rashbaum was not representing them for anything. Yes, Donna and Harvey hired Rashbaum in 2016 when the case was unfolding and arrests had started. But he never represented them in anything? Did he?
    Rashbaum removed Donna and Harvey from the witness list for Charlie's trial to prevent Georgia from crossing them. Rashbaum did not want Georgia to find out about the double extortion defense so it was important for him to make sure that the prosecution did not talk to Donna before the trial started. I don't think it was because of conflict.
    As far as this double extortion defense goes, hasn't that been debunked by Donna/Charlie conversation stating that Dan Markel may have been murdered by drug dealers because he didn't pay them? It's because of this statement that Georgia had Charlie on her witness list for Donna's trial. I don't think that extortion plot defense can be used by anybody again.

  • @rembo183
    @rembo183 10 днів тому +2

    Tim is right. The waivers of conflict are simply inadequate since they can change their mind like here! This was potentially very dangerous and now the conviction is in jeopardy. It’s a “disaster” as Tim says.

  • @stevefromsaskatoon830
    @stevefromsaskatoon830 7 днів тому +1

    Tim's right this is definitely worthy of a law exame ... I'm confused

  • @louisefleming3117
    @louisefleming3117 11 днів тому +6

    Dan does NOT need to go on STS. He needs to tell his said of the story in court.

  • @Villianelles_Boots
    @Villianelles_Boots 10 днів тому

    Joel, we appreciate the flashlight 🔦 work around. 😊

  • @barbaramccabe8133
    @barbaramccabe8133 11 днів тому +3

    The Adelsons chose the weasel/clown to represent them. Charlie is a big boy with a big mouth. If he wanted mommy and daddy to testify he would have insisted. Hope our broken law system doesn’t grant him a new trial.

  • @Adelweiss-v5y
    @Adelweiss-v5y 11 днів тому +26

    Rash needs to go to jail. This lawyer mischief (intentional) needs to stop!!! We cannot trust the system any more

    • @toniking8386
      @toniking8386 11 днів тому +12

      I believe he(Rashbum) did it on purpose,..planning g and knowing exactly what would happen.

    • @mskate8386
      @mskate8386 11 днів тому +9

      If you can’t win-cheat!

  • @godisgood7334
    @godisgood7334 11 днів тому +7

    I know this seems awful however, I feel this was necessary in order for Charlie to flip on Wendi. Charlie needed to be convicted and he needed to receive life in prison in order to turn on Wendi. I think Charlie is going to turn. I'm looking forward to it.

  • @cathybarela4304
    @cathybarela4304 11 днів тому +2

    Wow, Joel and Tim, Rashbaum created his own wrecking crew all by himself. My heart aches for the Markel family.

  • @sallya.6944
    @sallya.6944 11 днів тому +10

    The only way they will get the murder conviction overturned is if they had a better defendant. They still have Charlie and his very outrageous double extortion theory.

    • @tiffaninichole
      @tiffaninichole 11 днів тому +1

      That’s the point. It WILL get overturned. Mark my words. They will have to retry it.

    • @Prissy-lp4zq
      @Prissy-lp4zq 11 днів тому +1

      @@tiffaninicholehe will still be found guilty

    • @sallya.6944
      @sallya.6944 10 днів тому

      @@tiffaninichole he will get a new trial. But he's still going to be found guilty