Find a contractor to lend it to for a work day, have them run it for a day building something, that way people will see the miles used up etc... which I don't belive will be much, although powertools have high draw you don't run them continuously so maybe 20KW for an 8 hr day is my guess
As someone who grew up with multiple F-150s and had one for their first vehicle, it's great to see the new electric offering tested out. After seeing the F-100 that was converted to electric, I'm hoping to convert our '88 F-150 considering its engine is staring to have a lot of issues.
Remakable vindication of the F150... well done guys for a highly entertaining and moreover informative unbiased review in the real world. Dismissing the onboard air system for tyres and using an electric compressor shows how much thought you put into it, not to mention the valid point about running a generator making noise in a quiet neighbourhood. Looks like Ford nailed it and so did you! Thanks for making this great review and I look forward to your receiving the two Tesla trucks, I can't wait!🙂
I can't understand why anyone would purchase that ridiculous looking truck. I'm sure it will do things the F150 can't and visa versa. I'll stick with the ford that's been number one for me for over 50 years. I also love that the lightning looks like a normal F150.
@@pstoneking3418 I've learned over the years that what I like and what the people like are often two very different things. No, I don't love the look of the Cybertruck. But I do like the SS body. I'm so tired of my American truck bodies rusting out way before they ever should. So with that said, I'm very curious to see what "extras" the Cybertruck will have to see if it is compelling enough to buy. For now Ford is the EV truck winner.
Would be interesting to see what's the max range/usage you could get. Like how far could you drive to a job, work all day using power tools, and then still have enough range to get home with a decent enough cushion to not be stressed.
@@waynelevett3632 That's what I'm saying. It would be cool to get an idea of how far you could drive to a job and still use the battery for tools for a work day.
My question too. They should have addressed this. Easy to assume an average distance like 10-20 miles to the job. Work 8 hours. Do you then have enough charge to get home.
This will depend on the Lightning's battery type (Standard Range (SR) or Extended Range (ER)), amount of work (even duty cycle of compressor), as well as miles. But you can compute your answer knowing that SR battery has 98KWH and ER battery has 131KWH and that the Lightning gets about 2 mi/KWH. So 100 miles round trip would use 50KWH leaving you 48KWH for the SR battery or 81KWH for ER for work, which is A LOT. Divide that by a 12 hour work day that would be 4KW for SR and 6.75 KW running *continuously* over that 12 hour work day, which is never going to happen. You can adjust the calculations above for different distances, work hours, etc.
In Australia the building industry is really leaning on powerful cordless tools these days, but having that said they might still fire up a generator to charge batteries, so likely still very useful. The welder is pretty sweet though, that would be very useful on a farm. Nice video guys :-)
Back in '89, I built a new house. Our only site power was provided by a generator. It barely ran a circular saw with some persuasion. A truck like this with all that portable power would have been fabulous. Yes, I get it.
This truly is a game changer. People don't understand the cost of noise pollution. I work heavy construction. Loud is everywhere all the time. Usually I'm the only one wearing ear protection. Even when we're doing quiet work the generator is still loud as hell charging batteries. Thank you for the honest reviews. Keep 'm coming.
Could you imagine all this versatility in Fords Econoline van. I bet there's a lot of contractors that would love that. You could have a mobile welding shop. Fine woodworking whatever you can think of you would have the power and the room to do it.
Ford Transit EV is already here! Fewer power points, but still pretty darn useful. Smaller batter tho, with only 200km range and just seats 2. Reduces the applications, unfortunately.
Exactly. Vans are MUCH superior to PU trucks as contractor work trucks. For a farm vehichle? No. But contractor work where your tools supplies literally cost MORE than the PU/Van itself and needs to remain dry, and safe? This would be much superior.
@@w8stral I would hesitate to make generalizations since there are many different flavours of farmer and contractor. I've been farming for 12 years and my next vehicle will also be a van since it loads and unloads so much better and I can AC my produce. When I built my house the pickup truck could tow better than a van and handle a rougher job site. In both cases I could make either work. It's the ability for cheap/clean fuel and power on demand is what I really want.
@@chriskimber7179 Van is lower to ground for loading purposes and if do not mind trashing the back while using it like a PU truck, it is doable for sure 100%. Covered aspect of a van is SOOOOOO nice. If only I could get a van with 4WD and a low gear... I know, I can buy a converted PU into a van but.... its not the same
@@w8stral lightning powertrain w transit body and an extra bench would be my configuration (can't put a bench into transit since you'd need to bolt thru the battery pack). plywood walls and floor, removable shelves, insulated rear half with bulkhead and a AC unit with coolbot would be the cats pajamas. Paired with a tow package and a small dump trailer for picking up mulch and compost and there are very few things I couldn't do with it. 300km all season range is all I ask for.
Did you think FORD would make a truck that was a non-work truck? Rivian is a rookie truck builder. Did Rivian even test their circuits before shipping their truck?
Also they have _real_ outlets. I used to use my laptop in the car and the adapters for the cigarette lighter port was an absolute pain to deal with. The cars that have a regular plug outlet under the middle back seat just blows my mind. That would have been so useful to me as a kid. I used to think USB ports in the backseats were awesome, regular power points in cars is just the next level, although soon I’m thinking people will be wondering how we ever lived without them.
Very powerful presentation! I shared this everywhere even to the Blue Oval fb sight here in Tennessee. Blue Oval is the Ford mega complex that will be the home if the F-150. Good job.
You forgot to mention that on most job sites with power, you can plug in the truck and be getting free fuel all day while using the power tools, and still leave with more electrons than you arrived with. It's a total win win. Any contractor not seriously wanting to buy the F-150 Lightning is just not paying enough attention to how good it is, and how much money it will save them, as well as how much it will improve the customers experience for work you do, which will get you way more and higher paying customers.
@@jbbuzzable Probably not right now, but its popularity has certainly caught their attention. If they scale up production, the costs will go down. Really excited to see where they go with this.
Excellent test and a unique review video. Most channels gloss over this kind of stuff because they do not have construction experience. Nice job leveraging your background to make a unique EV test. No doubt, when Cybertruck comes out there will need to a work site throw down to see who is the best. I am guessing Cybertruck might be better than Rivian at the work site, but that F150 set a high bar that will be hard to beat.
Think of the RVing that this truck can support with the circut capabilities as well. Its literally better then some ppl's houses. This actually goes beyond my expectations. Great video.
@@MearsFL That’s less of a truck problem and more of an ‘existing charging infrastructure is still being rolled out so they can still have fairly big gaps between them and their parking bays weren’t designed for trucks so you might have to unhitch to charge making additional charging more annoying’ problem. Previous chargers were typically designed for small electric cars that weren’t towing so adding much bigger pickup trucks that are towing to the still growing system has thrown a spanner in the works. Now You Know and Transport Evolved both have good videos on towing and both of them basically had more problems with the charger infrastructure than the trucks. Plus Electrify America is going through a rough patch now but they are working on it, at least in terms of rolling out new chargers, although I’m not sure if more pull through bays are planned as well but hopefully they see the demand for it and address it.
One question that I have for you as a contractor. How far do you typically drive in a day? I have friends who discount the Lightning because they say the range isn't long enough while towing. My contention is that a typical contractor doesn't drive 150 miles each day. Basically if a contractor is driving their truck they aren't getting any work done and hence not making any money. What are your thoughts?
Contracting is so broad, each contractor would have to do their own assessment. If you service 5 nearby cities but spend hours every stop, you should be good.
I live in S Lake Tahoe and most contractors stay in the South Tahoe area and would be easy to tow in this area and do their work all in one day utilizing it, how they showed in this video. It depends on each business.
Great video showing the on-site work power of the truck! I’m waiting for Utility company to approve electrical work at my home. Installing the Charge Station Pro, plus a new transfer switch for the 30 amp to charge home during power outage using Lightning.
The capabilities are definitely underrated, I think the Cyber truck will be even more over the top. Main thing the F150 is missing is the towing range.
For existing ice owners I would also just invest in a few extra lipo large batteries and make a box in the back with an inverter and you would have a nice power supply to take with you or have added to the ev truck. You could also wire it up with charging off of your existing ice alternator system while you are driving between jobs in an existing ice vehicle. I am an ev owner and would not buy anything else, but this would be a smart alternative for existing ice vehicle owners. Those batteries could always be used later after buying an ev for during periods for backup purposes at home or on trips. This would also be a good addition so you do not run down your ev battery if you are using lots of power at jobsites. This is a great example of what new lion pricing and availability affords us now in addition to the advent of evs.
Some safety to keep in mind that was overlooked. Whenever resetting a breaker you should first turn off any loads to that circuit so that there is no load when resetting it. Sometimes it can be a legitimate reason for the breaker trip and not just because you are running too many things. When its a real short in the circuit from an appliance maybe having the short, when you reset the breaker it could go boom! So also whenever resetting a breaker don’t have your face buried in the breaker looking at it. Lol You should set your hand ready to reset and then turn your whole body away from the breaker and turn your face away too then reset it.
@@marcdenlinger5282 although I could see where an apprentice and fitter run up ahead in a truck to tack/fit something up before the welder gets there with his rig
That's awesome. I love the independence of being able to run anything on a mobile rig. Very glad to see Ford adding so much utility to their truck. Wish it had a reliable charging network. I hope Tesla matches this with the Cybertruck.
Yes they always advertise Rivian gas a built in air compressor. Good for tires, floating tools, that's about it. Bring your own pancake air compressor with F150. 9.6 kw of power. Each of the duplex in the bed can handle 2400 watts. That's because the 2 - 3600 watt inverters also power those 2 duplex recepticals. I tested voltage and in fact if you measure from the left duplex hot to the right duplex hot you'll measure 240 volts.
This is such a great video Zack and Jesse, FORD did a great job on the truck - props to Farley and co. for this one. Hope Tesla is taking notes for the Cybertruck!
My two-person jetted hot tub ... 220/240 volt 30 amp.... I'm thinking of a trailer and an insulated water tank in the bed of the truck. Could make for one hell of a tailgate party... I noticed in the video that the mile range on the vehicle screen did not change from 250 miles.. obviously I could get the calculator out and do the math and figure out how long it would take to drain it down to where I couldn't drive it home.... But I was hoping that you guys could include that in your videos next time.... I wouldn't want to be out there hot tubbing and run out of miles to get home. I think the perfect collaboration would be with Ken from Ken's Karpentry....
Zac: Your terminology is so 1960s! Those are no longer 110/220 volt outlets. (See the labels on the outlets!) Those are 120/240 volt outlets! If you measure them, they would probably be a little higher than that. Maybe 125/250.
You know, I always wondered why, whenever I talk about household AC voltage, I find myself pausing to ask myself if it's 110 or 120. I didn't realize, until your comment, that it had changed! I just thought I was mis-remembering the figure for some unknown reason. God, I am old!
@@eyesuckle Yes, time marches onward. A very long time ago they target 100/200 volts! Sometime in the early 1970s, they targeted 117/234. Sometime after that (1980s?) they made it a full 120/240.
Can you guys do an electric truck ad. The winter/fall background looks like a setup to one. I think a good truck ad might boost knowledge of what they can do
Thanks love the video. You answered all my questions. It is everything i want in a truck. Hopefully the price will come down. I expect that the Cyber Truck that can match this is going to cost close to the same
That is amazing.. so safe not to have those extension cords running through your customer's house with a potential of them tripping over it or catching and breaking something in their house. And every time you blow a breaker in your customer's house their computer shuts off or their clocks have to be reset... I'm a Handyman and I would love having my own power source. This truck makes me look prepared and professional. Not to mention the liability I will not encounter. Win win
I'm not a contractor but I have had a building company build my first home which was a townhouse and I remember them on a bare site using gas generators. I've some some other contract sites where they're using these huge gas generators. With that said A truck like this would really come in handy for the everyday contractor or even that weekend warrior wanting to tackle that honey-do list. I think the Rivian is a decent truck and may be designed more for the outdoor type...those wanting to go fishing and camping and have light use for the power on board. But it looks like the F150 Lightening achieves that as well but kicks it up some serious notches by being able to do what the Rivian seriously can't...and that's no disrespect to Rivian at all. They're just two different trucks configured for some of the same as well as some very noticeable differences. My only concern is if this is a person's every day driver they're going to have to be extra careful with having this on a job site because of any flying debris etc against the body and paint. If this is a fleet truck done in all white I still think it might need to be protected but I think there are things that can help. Such as since this is a good investment for the average contractor of fleet managed trucks then maybe investing n PPF for them could help some.
That is the thing. The rivian doesn't have an air tank. That's what you need for high pressure airtools. Should build a tank to connect to the rivian air outlet and then an outlet on the pressure tank and let the rivian fill the tank slowly.
Thanks guys but I've got a dual motor cyber truck ordered and that Pickup truck will have power outlets allowing use of heavy duty 240V, high power tools in field all day. No generator needed.
Looks like Ford has a winner!! I would love to know if the battery has enough to drive to a worksite, power all the equipment needed for an 8 hour day, drive back home, and be able to fully charge over night to be ready for use the next day
Would be interesting to take each watt and amp consumption for different vendor hardware and the total battery options on length of use while still having juice to drive to the shop or home after a day of work. Imagine having a report on vendors detailing their hardware rated based on how low their power draw is against the torque and or performance produced. I'd imagine most are horribly inefficient making some users bring along additional power packs to supplement the onboard power.
Great video. It seems with a bit more thought Rivian could have closed the gap on the power output side to make the truck have a bit more utility beyond adventure things.
Separate Question: Can you be charging the vehicle while at the same time be using onboard tools? And I'm impressed with the power because all that power you were drawing didn't affect stated range all that much.
Of course you guy have the more expensive Lariat edition, I’m sure the Standard work truck trim would be more economical and definitely worth the slight increase in price
nice one boys, i can tell you that i've seen my dad when i was a kid actually fistfight cause 3 or 4 contractors were fighting for the only outlet available.. and to hear that dawm generator all day cause we need power for about 10 minutes per hour!! for me one Word "awesome:
so, if battery is 100KW on cheaper model or 130KW on more expensive one, and you use around 1-2Kw per hour for your tools, you would burn around 10-15% of your car battery for 10 hour of work!!! thats amazing! its more than enough to get the job done and safely return home.
Jesse & Zak, very impressive. How about contacting AAA and all local tow services for stranded EV charging. Offer 10 miles to get people home or to a DC fast charger. Now you’ve got a side business.
Well this certainly sets the bar high for the Cyber Truck. It will have to do all this and act like a boat for a while. Preemptive Tesla Killer? I wonder what all this does to the battery, spiky power draw can create dendrites.
1100-1400 Watts of power - that's only just enough. I have a Victron Multiplus 12/2000/80 in my caravan that will give a good 1600Watts (240V) with bursting to 3000Watts! Can't wait for my Cybertruck .. 😁
When using a generator, it is running all the time even when you don't need the power. where with the truck it will deliver power only when you need it, no noise, lower cost
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Find a contractor to lend it to for a work day, have them run it for a day building something, that way people will see the miles used up etc... which I don't belive will be much, although powertools have high draw you don't run them continuously so maybe 20KW for an 8 hr day is my guess
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This BEATS any commercial Ford can do to promote the truck. Ford should sponsor you guys for this episode!
I maintained railroad signals and having a truck like this would have made my job so much more convenient.
As someone who grew up with multiple F-150s and had one for their first vehicle, it's great to see the new electric offering tested out. After seeing the F-100 that was converted to electric, I'm hoping to convert our '88 F-150 considering its engine is staring to have a lot of issues.
Remakable vindication of the F150... well done guys for a highly entertaining and moreover informative unbiased review in the real world. Dismissing the onboard air system for tyres and using an electric compressor shows how much thought you put into it, not to mention the valid point about running a generator making noise in a quiet neighbourhood. Looks like Ford nailed it and so did you! Thanks for making this great review and I look forward to your receiving the two Tesla trucks, I can't wait!🙂
Game changer! I'm still patiently waiting to see how the Cybertruck compares to this.
Me too. I really like the frunk on the Ford, which I don't think the cybertruck will have though.
Yeah I really like the front too. I think the cybertruck's going to be my first electric vehicle. Better have some cool shit like this
I can't understand why anyone would purchase that ridiculous looking truck. I'm sure it will do things the F150 can't and visa versa. I'll stick with the ford that's been number one for me for over 50 years. I also love that the lightning looks like a normal F150.
@@pstoneking3418 I've learned over the years that what I like and what the people like are often two very different things. No, I don't love the look of the Cybertruck. But I do like the SS body. I'm so tired of my American truck bodies rusting out way before they ever should. So with that said, I'm very curious to see what "extras" the Cybertruck will have to see if it is compelling enough to buy. For now Ford is the EV truck winner.
@@pstoneking3418 That's okay if you don't like the way it looks. You maybe also don't like the music I listen to. Totally subjective.
Would be interesting to see what's the max range/usage you could get. Like how far could you drive to a job, work all day using power tools, and then still have enough range to get home with a decent enough cushion to not be stressed.
That would depend how far you had to drive to & from the job in question.
@@waynelevett3632 That's what I'm saying. It would be cool to get an idea of how far you could drive to a job and still use the battery for tools for a work day.
My question too. They should have addressed this. Easy to assume an average distance like 10-20 miles to the job. Work 8 hours. Do you then have enough charge to get home.
Yes, I'd like to see some numbers. Different contractors have different needs.
This will depend on the Lightning's battery type (Standard Range (SR) or Extended Range (ER)), amount of work (even duty cycle of compressor), as well as miles. But you can compute your answer knowing that SR battery has 98KWH and ER battery has 131KWH and that the Lightning gets about 2 mi/KWH.
So 100 miles round trip would use 50KWH leaving you 48KWH for the SR battery or 81KWH for ER for work, which is A LOT. Divide that by a 12 hour work day that would be 4KW for SR and 6.75 KW running *continuously* over that 12 hour work day, which is never going to happen.
You can adjust the calculations above for different distances, work hours, etc.
great demo, cool to see the contractor muscle flexed a bit here
In Australia the building industry is really leaning on powerful cordless tools these days, but having that said they might still fire up a generator to charge batteries, so likely still very useful. The welder is pretty sweet though, that would be very useful on a farm. Nice video guys :-)
Back in '89, I built a new house. Our only site power was provided by a generator. It barely ran a circular saw with some persuasion. A truck like this with all that portable power would have been fabulous. Yes, I get it.
This truly is a game changer. People don't understand the cost of noise pollution. I work heavy construction. Loud is everywhere all the time. Usually I'm the only one wearing ear protection. Even when we're doing quiet work the generator is still loud as hell charging batteries. Thank you for the honest reviews. Keep 'm coming.
Great video showing how the plugs and everything works when you’re “working”. Nice job 👍
If you have a good home charger to plug the truck into, you could just use the truck as a work station and keep your range topped off!
Ford marketing needs to share this video. i'm excited to see they are putting out such a useful product. thanks for showing it to us Zac and Jesse :)
Could you imagine all this versatility in Fords Econoline van. I bet there's a lot of contractors that would love that. You could have a mobile welding shop. Fine woodworking whatever you can think of you would have the power and the room to do it.
Ford Transit EV is already here!
Fewer power points, but still pretty darn useful.
Smaller batter tho, with only 200km range and just seats 2. Reduces the applications, unfortunately.
Exactly. Vans are MUCH superior to PU trucks as contractor work trucks. For a farm vehichle? No. But contractor work where your tools supplies literally cost MORE than the PU/Van itself and needs to remain dry, and safe? This would be much superior.
@@w8stral I would hesitate to make generalizations since there are many different flavours of farmer and contractor.
I've been farming for 12 years and my next vehicle will also be a van since it loads and unloads so much better and I can AC my produce.
When I built my house the pickup truck could tow better than a van and handle a rougher job site.
In both cases I could make either work. It's the ability for cheap/clean fuel and power on demand is what I really want.
@@chriskimber7179 Van is lower to ground for loading purposes and if do not mind trashing the back while using it like a PU truck, it is doable for sure 100%. Covered aspect of a van is SOOOOOO nice. If only I could get a van with 4WD and a low gear... I know, I can buy a converted PU into a van but.... its not the same
@@w8stral lightning powertrain w transit body and an extra bench would be my configuration (can't put a bench into transit since you'd need to bolt thru the battery pack).
plywood walls and floor, removable shelves, insulated rear half with bulkhead and a AC unit with coolbot would be the cats pajamas.
Paired with a tow package and a small dump trailer for picking up mulch and compost and there are very few things I couldn't do with it.
300km all season range is all I ask for.
I hope Tesla was watching this. All that utility plus vehicle to grid makes the Ford special. Not just a toy, it's a serious work truck.
I agree. Need to match Ford with this one.
Did you think FORD would make a truck that was a non-work truck? Rivian is a rookie truck builder. Did Rivian even test their circuits before shipping their truck?
I simply don't understand why Tesla doesn't have at least 1 12 amp circuit on they cars.
Seems like a no-brainer, so damn useful!
Also they have _real_ outlets. I used to use my laptop in the car and the adapters for the cigarette lighter port was an absolute pain to deal with. The cars that have a regular plug outlet under the middle back seat just blows my mind. That would have been so useful to me as a kid. I used to think USB ports in the backseats were awesome, regular power points in cars is just the next level, although soon I’m thinking people will be wondering how we ever lived without them.
Agreed. Cybertruck needs to have this sort of utility, just as the Lightning needs to get access to a reliable charging network.
Very powerful presentation! I shared this everywhere even to the Blue Oval fb sight here in Tennessee. Blue Oval is the Ford mega complex that will be the home if the F-150. Good job.
You forgot to mention that on most job sites with power, you can plug in the truck and be getting free fuel all day while using the power tools, and still leave with more electrons than you arrived with. It's a total win win. Any contractor not seriously wanting to buy the F-150 Lightning is just not paying enough attention to how good it is, and how much money it will save them, as well as how much it will improve the customers experience for work you do, which will get you way more and higher paying customers.
One of the best videos you guys have done, good info
GREAT peactical demo!
Actually quite glad to hear this about the F-150 lightning. Ford has a chance to survive maybe it's dependent on that truck
I agree. One unknown is if Ford is able to make a profit selling this truck.
@@jbbuzzable Probably not right now, but its popularity has certainly caught their attention. If they scale up production, the costs will go down. Really excited to see where they go with this.
Yes, ramp up manufacturing of the F-150 Lightning Pro, please
Excellent test and a unique review video. Most channels gloss over this kind of stuff because they do not have construction experience. Nice job leveraging your background to make a unique EV test. No doubt, when Cybertruck comes out there will need to a work site throw down to see who is the best. I am guessing Cybertruck might be better than Rivian at the work site, but that F150 set a high bar that will be hard to beat.
This is one of the best reviews you've done yet. Nice job!
Frickin' AWSOME ! Thanks for doing this.
This is why I really want a Lightning... if only it didn't cost $85k bucks for the XLT extended battery... :(
Think of the RVing that this truck can support with the circut capabilities as well. Its literally better then some ppl's houses. This actually goes beyond my expectations. Great video.
Yea but towing basically cuts the range in half
@@MearsFL That’s less of a truck problem and more of an ‘existing charging infrastructure is still being rolled out so they can still have fairly big gaps between them and their parking bays weren’t designed for trucks so you might have to unhitch to charge making additional charging more annoying’ problem. Previous chargers were typically designed for small electric cars that weren’t towing so adding much bigger pickup trucks that are towing to the still growing system has thrown a spanner in the works.
Now You Know and Transport Evolved both have good videos on towing and both of them basically had more problems with the charger infrastructure than the trucks. Plus Electrify America is going through a rough patch now but they are working on it, at least in terms of rolling out new chargers, although I’m not sure if more pull through bays are planned as well but hopefully they see the demand for it and address it.
Also if you charge it at home, you save time from never needing to go to gas station (nor charge station).
I really love these real world EV truck videos you have been doing. I think pointing out flaws will force manufacturers to remedy shortcomings.
I used my Lightning to power some set construction for the local Highschool play. Worked great!
One question that I have for you as a contractor. How far do you typically drive in a day? I have friends who discount the Lightning because they say the range isn't long enough while towing. My contention is that a typical contractor doesn't drive 150 miles each day. Basically if a contractor is driving their truck they aren't getting any work done and hence not making any money. What are your thoughts?
Contracting is so broad, each contractor would have to do their own assessment.
If you service 5 nearby cities but spend hours every stop, you should be good.
@@Khyberization Agreed. Some contractors maybe work a 20 mile radius. Others drive an hour our more each way.
I live in S Lake Tahoe and most contractors stay in the South Tahoe area and would be easy to tow in this area and do their work all in one day utilizing it, how they showed in this video. It depends on each business.
Great video showing the on-site work power of the truck! I’m waiting for Utility company to approve electrical work at my home. Installing the Charge Station Pro, plus a new transfer switch for the 30 amp to charge home during power outage using Lightning.
The capabilities are definitely underrated, I think the Cyber truck will be even more over the top. Main thing the F150 is missing is the towing range.
Awesome video Zac and Jesse!! Great to see a real-world load test, pushed to the limit. The best choice for a contractor couldn’t be clearer!
For existing ice owners I would also just invest in a few extra lipo large batteries and make a box in the back with an inverter and you would have a nice power supply to take with you or have added to the ev truck. You could also wire it up with charging off of your existing ice alternator system while you are driving between jobs in an existing ice vehicle. I am an ev owner and would not buy anything else, but this would be a smart alternative for existing ice vehicle owners. Those batteries could always be used later after buying an ev for during periods for backup purposes at home or on trips. This would also be a good addition so you do not run down your ev battery if you are using lots of power at jobsites. This is a great example of what new lion pricing and availability affords us now in addition to the advent of evs.
The music beat matched to the drills and other tools! Nice
Obligatory Bald Eagle with Red Tailed Hawk Scream. well done!
Excellent work boys! I have done a fair amount of contractor work like this and I agree, that is pretty impressive. Good work Ford!
nice work truck. don't forget a sledge hammer for the cyber truck review
And steel balls. 🤣
Some safety to keep in mind that was overlooked. Whenever resetting a breaker you should first turn off any loads to that circuit so that there is no load when resetting it. Sometimes it can be a legitimate reason for the breaker trip and not just because you are running too many things. When its a real short in the circuit from an appliance maybe having the short, when you reset the breaker it could go boom! So also whenever resetting a breaker don’t have your face buried in the breaker looking at it. Lol You should set your hand ready to reset and then turn your whole body away from the breaker and turn your face away too then reset it.
Next time you are going to test a welder outside use 1/8 or 3/32 stick
And run it for some duration to see how much duty-cycle it can handle. Tack welding doesn't even warm the welder up.
@@marcdenlinger5282 although I could see where an apprentice and fitter run up ahead in a truck to tack/fit something up before the welder gets there with his rig
**contracting intensifies**
I'm so glad you guys made this video, I was wondering just how well the F-150 Lightning would do after what I've seen!
That's awesome. I love the independence of being able to run anything on a mobile rig. Very glad to see Ford adding so much utility to their truck. Wish it had a reliable charging network.
I hope Tesla matches this with the Cybertruck.
Ford has a banger here! I hope more people buy this as it finally lives up the 'BUILT FOR TOUGH" moniker in my opinion.
Yes they always advertise Rivian gas a built in air compressor. Good for tires, floating tools, that's about it. Bring your own pancake air compressor with F150. 9.6 kw of power. Each of the duplex in the bed can handle 2400 watts. That's because the 2 - 3600 watt inverters also power those 2 duplex recepticals. I tested voltage and in fact if you measure from the left duplex hot to the right duplex hot you'll measure 240 volts.
Excellent video
I sincerely hope the Tesla truck team watches this. Great job Ford! Great job Zack and Jesse. Show why an electric WORK truck totally makes sense.
This is such a great video Zack and Jesse, FORD did a great job on the truck - props to Farley and co. for this one. Hope Tesla is taking notes for the Cybertruck!
My two-person jetted hot tub ... 220/240 volt 30 amp.... I'm thinking of a trailer and an insulated water tank in the bed of the truck. Could make for one hell of a tailgate party...
I noticed in the video that the mile range on the vehicle screen did not change from 250 miles.. obviously I could get the calculator out and do the math and figure out how long it would take to drain it down to where I couldn't drive it home.... But I was hoping that you guys could include that in your videos next time.... I wouldn't want to be out there hot tubbing and run out of miles to get home. I think the perfect collaboration would be with Ken from Ken's Karpentry....
Mobile power plant. I hope CyberTruck can match this functionality.
Zac: Your terminology is so 1960s! Those are no longer 110/220 volt outlets. (See the labels on the outlets!) Those are 120/240 volt outlets! If you measure them, they would probably be a little higher than that. Maybe 125/250.
You know, I always wondered why, whenever I talk about household AC voltage, I find myself pausing to ask myself if it's 110 or 120. I didn't realize, until your comment, that it had changed! I just thought I was mis-remembering the figure for some unknown reason. God, I am old!
@@eyesuckle Yes, time marches onward. A very long time ago they target 100/200 volts! Sometime in the early 1970s, they targeted 117/234. Sometime after that (1980s?) they made it a full 120/240.
It would be great if you could monitor the voltage going to the tool. Low voltage can harm the motors.
My favorite video you've done in all these years
Can you guys do an electric truck ad. The winter/fall background looks like a setup to one. I think a good truck ad might boost knowledge of what they can do
Thanks love the video. You answered all my questions. It is everything i want in a truck. Hopefully the price will come down. I expect that the Cyber Truck that can match this is going to cost close to the same
That's cool. I use portable induction cooktops to cook(camping). Charge a Tesla w/adapter?
Can you solar charge while at the jobsite?
That is amazing.. so safe not to have those extension cords running through your customer's house with a potential of them tripping over it or catching and breaking something in their house. And every time you blow a breaker in your customer's house their computer shuts off or their clocks have to be reset...
I'm a Handyman and I would love having my own power source.
This truck makes me look prepared and professional. Not to mention the liability I will not encounter. Win win
I’m not a contractor and realize how amazing this is!
I'm not a contractor but I have had a building company build my first home which was a townhouse and I remember them on a bare site using gas generators. I've some some other contract sites where they're using these huge gas generators.
With that said A truck like this would really come in handy for the everyday contractor or even that weekend warrior wanting to tackle that honey-do list.
I think the Rivian is a decent truck and may be designed more for the outdoor type...those wanting to go fishing and camping and have light use for the power on board. But it looks like the F150 Lightening achieves that as well but kicks it up some serious notches by being able to do what the Rivian seriously can't...and that's no disrespect to Rivian at all. They're just two different trucks configured for some of the same as well as some very noticeable differences.
My only concern is if this is a person's every day driver they're going to have to be extra careful with having this on a job site because of any flying debris etc against the body and paint. If this is a fleet truck done in all white I still think it might need to be protected but I think there are things that can help. Such as since this is a good investment for the average contractor of fleet managed trucks then maybe investing n PPF for them could help some.
And you won’t leave your battery charger on customers front or back porch like I have
Hope Ford can make more than just a handful.
That is the thing. The rivian doesn't have an air tank. That's what you need for high pressure airtools.
Should build a tank to connect to the rivian air outlet and then an outlet on the pressure tank and let the rivian fill the tank slowly.
The random tool use was awesome hahah
Well done. Good job.
Side question: which ecofriendly show do you guys mention in prior videos?
Thanks guys but I've got a dual motor cyber truck ordered and that Pickup truck will have power outlets allowing use of heavy duty 240V, high power tools in field all day. No generator needed.
This is awesome. Cummon Cybertruck, fight back interms of functionality :) Still wish S3XY have higher dc output.
Do a five year cost breakdown, compared to an ICE Ford F150 ( including a generator, fuel and extension cables). That should convince a contractor.
Damn.... That truck looked like it meant *_business._* 🙂
Looks like Ford has a winner!! I would love to know if the battery has enough to drive to a worksite, power all the equipment needed for an 8 hour day, drive back home, and be able to fully charge over night to be ready for use the next day
Would be interesting to take each watt and amp consumption for different vendor hardware and the total battery options on length of use while still having juice to drive to the shop or home after a day of work.
Imagine having a report on vendors detailing their hardware rated based on how low their power draw is against the torque and or performance produced.
I'd imagine most are horribly inefficient making some users bring along additional power packs to supplement the onboard power.
Hallo Jesse and Zack,
the F-150 Lightning has even an optional 9,6 kW Outlet with the 130 kWh accu Pack.
Kind Regards from Cuxhaven (Germany). Thomas
I wonder if “This old House” knows about this… NYK - PBS Collab🤔
This video reminds me of Michael Dukakis driving a tank.
Great video. It seems with a bit more thought Rivian could have closed the gap on the power output side to make the truck have a bit more utility beyond adventure things.
impressive greetings from Bulgaria!
How much of the battery do you use running all those tools though? Will you have enough range to get home at the end of the day?
You’re a bit slow with the nailer Zak! 🤣
Separate Question: Can you be charging the vehicle while at the same time be using onboard tools?
And I'm impressed with the power because all that power you were drawing didn't affect stated range all that much.
Of course you guy have the more expensive Lariat edition, I’m sure the Standard work truck trim would be more economical and definitely worth the slight increase in price
Great video. I'm low on the Cybertruck list...might have to think about going FURD...depending on the next tool time upload in..."two weeks".
Oh, 220 floor sanders. Often guys plug their sanders straight into the breaker panel.
nice one boys, i can tell you that i've seen my dad when i was a kid actually fistfight cause 3 or 4 contractors were fighting for the only outlet available.. and to hear that dawm generator all day cause we need power for about 10 minutes per hour!! for me one Word "awesome:
You should rip an 8' 2x6 on a tablesaw. Also, how long can you run these tools? 8 hours?
You guys could have a contractor borrow the truck for a time and have permission to come with on job sites and film? Idea?
What impact do you think this would have on battery degradation if you do this frequently?
My question is how long over time will that last with daily abuse? And how much does the battery replacement cost?
so, if battery is 100KW on cheaper model or 130KW on more expensive one, and you use around 1-2Kw per hour for your tools, you would burn around 10-15% of your car battery for 10 hour of work!!!
thats amazing!
its more than enough to get the job done and safely return home.
Great job site truck only issue I see is that it would be nice to have a locked trunk so you can work away from locked and hidden tail gate.
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Frunk is lockable storage.
Jesse & Zak, very impressive. How about contacting AAA and all local tow services for stranded EV charging. Offer 10 miles to get people home or to a DC fast charger. Now you’ve got a side business.
WOW I’m impressed! I gotta have one
Great video
I love you guys. The funniest episode yet!
Looks great!
Can it have a refrigerator?
Well this certainly sets the bar high for the Cyber Truck. It will have to do all this and act like a boat for a while. Preemptive Tesla Killer? I wonder what all this does to the battery, spiky power draw can create dendrites.
1100-1400 Watts of power - that's only just enough. I have a Victron Multiplus 12/2000/80 in my caravan that will give a good 1600Watts (240V) with bursting to 3000Watts! Can't wait for my Cybertruck .. 😁
When using a generator, it is running all the time even when you don't need the power. where with the truck it will deliver power only when you need it, no noise, lower cost
Did they say how much all of that drained the battery?