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The top 3 things I look for in an e-bike are comfort, weight, and range. I just bought the 500.3 and logged just over 100 miles so far. I feel like that's enough milage to comfortably say that it's a keeper. It's my first e-bike, but I have a feeling it will not be my last. I'm currently looking for somewhere to test drive a mid-drive.
Thanks for the excellent, objective bike testing and performance data. I'm looking at the Aventon Pace 500.3, the Euphree Robin City X+ and the upcoming Aima Santa Monica (rode a prototype and liked it) as my first eBike and will be riding on some steep dirt hills. I'm using your Hellhole times as a guideline for which bike to get. They are all comparable, very good, sub-$2,000 bikes so its coming down mostly to hill climbing performance and braking. Please test the Santa Monica when it comes out in a few months (the Big Sur is its mountain bike cousin). One suggestion: it would be great if you could have a large screen phone with a GPS app attached to the handlebars showing the continuous speeds as you test the bikes. Many of the speedos are not visible in the tests. Keep up the outstanding work!
Thank you so much for this info. Mine is coming in a few days and you helped me decide which bike to purchase and answered a lot of questions I have. I of course want to understand how to use the shifters and the Assist together, that is a video I would love to see. Explaining how to use the Assist levels with the Shifting....that would be a great tutorial. Thanks again.
You guys always show the actual hill test. You never just voiceover the hill test. Can you please show the hill test? I want to see how it did in throttle and pedal assist up the hill. Especially through the steep sections.
Might just come down to use case at the end of the day. If you want to haul cargo or kids, the Abound is great. If you're mostly looking at a bike just for you, the Pace is a blast and moves better with the lighter weight.
My girlfriend has the original Pace 500 and she loves it. The frame has a built in handle right above the bottom bracket which makes it easy to carry upstairs. The newer ones ditched the handle
It may feel a little on the small side, but with only one inch of difference, I wouldn't expect it would be a problem. Personally (John here), I like how playful and nimble smaller frames feel when I ride them, but it all comes down to personal preference.
Based upon your review and a test ride at Sport Systems in Albuquerque I bought this bike from them today. They sell for the internet price and no labor charges for set-up, options (only the rear rack for me) installation, Tannus Armour installation, and a free charge of Slime. They also double the manufacturer’s warranty, give free tune-ups for 4 years, and do the build for no charge! Why would I buy anywhere else? As a hill climb test I rode up their loading dock ramp ~ 8% grade in Eco and 6th gear from a dead stop (I forgot to shift down before starting😆). This bike has lots of power, I understand some lighter riders here opt for the Pace 350.3 because even with our steep terrain they don’t need all the power of the 500. Great review!
You should indicate the rider weight when measuring braking distance, range and hill climb as this will affect the numbers you publish. Lighter riders will see different results from heavier riders. Thanks for the video!
Your review is pretty much as I have found with my 500.3. Only have had two weeks of ownership and found its a good cruiser on bike paths. We bought the step through and step over (I am tall) We added the fenders and the rear racks and found them useful with the puddles splash and the ability to carry jackets for early morning rides. We looked for the torque sensor when buying this bike and do not regret it.
@@Red.exe7 yes we are happy with range PAS set to eco we get about 35 mile with 30 percent SoC left on near flat well groomed paths Happy with the bike firs our life style in suburbia
What fenders did you get? Because in the section where it shows accessories compatible with this bike it shows no options for fenders. So I wouldn’t know what fenders to get.
Quick question. I am looking to purchase this online through Aventon. There is a special for discount on an extra battery. Do you think there is a reason to have a 2nd battery? I don't plan on 50 mile bike rides. lol
A second battery is very nice if it's in your budget. 1. If you plan to ride a lot and you can take it with you, it's nice knowing you don't have to economize the battery as much by having a spare. A quick pit stop to swap out he batteries and you're back in business if the first one ran low on you 2. You'll have to wait several hours for a battery to recharge. It's usually not a huge deal if you remember to charge it the day before when you want to go ride it, but again, it's nice having a ready-to-go alternative option if you did forget and then you aren't being held up. If you do end up buying one please click our link in the description before you purchase! It supports our team at no extra cost to you :)
does this bike take off on you when you start pedaling? my wife found that in a rental last year and gave her a problem. she is looking for a bike that does not jolt you back when starting off, any help would be appreciated
That jolt of power when starting out is typical of a bike using a cadence sensor and a speed-targeting PAS style (each level sets a speed target, using an arbitrary power curve to achieve it - the greater the difference between target and current speed, the more power is delivered). A cadence sensor that uses a current/power management style delivers a set current/power for each level. It’s easier to manage than the speed style. A torque sensor delivers power in proportion to the effort you exert through the pedals. It’s the easiest for managing power delivery, and thus for controlling the bike, and for matching speed with another rider. Each PAS level sets the ratio, up to the maximum the bike can deliver. For instance, the lowest level might match 20% of your effort, whereas the highest level might match 100-350% of your effort, up to the max the motor and controller can deliver. The downside is you have to exert more effort while climbing hills or maintaining higher speeds compared to cadence sensor bikes. That’s why I prefer models that use both a torque sensor and offer a throttle. You can use the throttle to ask for max effort from the bike and stack yours on top.
Good review and a very nice bike overall, but it's conspicuously missing an easily accessible odometer/trip meter. That might be inconsequential to many riders but as someone that uses an odometer as a simple navigation tool, it's a deal breaker.
I’d be very suspicious of the above comment. Probably the competition. Almost all comments about this bike show that people are extremely happy with it including us.
E-Bike Question of the Day ⚡🚴 When looking at cruiser e-bikes, what are the top 2 or 3 things you are looking for in an e-bike? Let us know in the comments below 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
I'm looking for a local store that carries it. 🙄
The top 3 things I look for in an e-bike are comfort, weight, and range. I just bought the 500.3 and logged just over 100 miles so far. I feel like that's enough milage to comfortably say that it's a keeper. It's my first e-bike, but I have a feeling it will not be my last. I'm currently looking for somewhere to test drive a mid-drive.
Great review, I am sold and ordered 2 large bikes today. Thanks for the important details!
Thanks for the excellent, objective bike testing and performance data. I'm looking at the Aventon Pace 500.3, the Euphree Robin City X+ and the upcoming Aima Santa Monica (rode a prototype and liked it) as my first eBike and will be riding on some steep dirt hills. I'm using your Hellhole times as a guideline for which bike to get. They are all comparable, very good, sub-$2,000 bikes so its coming down mostly to hill climbing performance and braking. Please test the Santa Monica when it comes out in a few months (the Big Sur is its mountain bike cousin). One suggestion: it would be great if you could have a large screen phone with a GPS app attached to the handlebars showing the continuous speeds as you test the bikes. Many of the speedos are not visible in the tests. Keep up the outstanding work!
Top things I look into are range,battery output, and charge time.
Thank you so much for this info. Mine is coming in a few days and you helped me decide which bike to purchase and answered a lot of questions I have. I of course want to understand how to use the shifters and the Assist together, that is a video I would love to see. Explaining how to use the Assist levels with the Shifting....that would be a great tutorial. Thanks again.
You guys always show the actual hill test. You never just voiceover the hill test. Can you please show the hill test? I want to see how it did in throttle and pedal assist up the hill. Especially through the steep sections.
I really enjoy the way you guys do these reviews. Very informative. Thanks!
Thank you for this thoughtful and informative review....trying to decide between this or their Abound
Might just come down to use case at the end of the day. If you want to haul cargo or kids, the Abound is great. If you're mostly looking at a bike just for you, the Pace is a blast and moves better with the lighter weight.
My girlfriend has the original Pace 500 and she loves it. The frame has a built in handle right above the bottom bracket which makes it easy to carry upstairs. The newer ones ditched the handle
The Pace has been a geat option for a while now. Glad she's enjoying the OG
How does this bike climb the hill in thottle only vs the older model? Does it offer more torque/geared hub motor?
Torque sensor is smooth and true bike like feel you can very the speed in each level, Level 1 from about 6 to 15 mph depending on how you pedal
Good point!
I’m about 6’2” looking my first large frame e-bike. Do you think that range only going to 6’1” would be a problem? Thanks for the vid
It may feel a little on the small side, but with only one inch of difference, I wouldn't expect it would be a problem. Personally (John here), I like how playful and nimble smaller frames feel when I ride them, but it all comes down to personal preference.
Based upon your review and a test ride at Sport Systems in Albuquerque I bought this bike from them today. They sell for the internet price and no labor charges for set-up, options (only the rear rack for me) installation, Tannus Armour installation, and a free charge of Slime. They also double the manufacturer’s warranty, give free tune-ups for 4 years, and do the build for no charge! Why would I buy anywhere else? As a hill climb test I rode up their loading dock ramp ~ 8% grade in Eco and 6th gear from a dead stop (I forgot to shift down before starting😆). This bike has lots of power, I understand some lighter riders here opt for the Pace 350.3 because even with our steep terrain they don’t need all the power of the 500. Great review!
Thank you very much!
Excellent review. Very much appreciated. We are sold on aventon.
Thanks for watching! Everyone we've met with a Pace 500 has been completely in love with it.
Do you have to use the pedals to ride or can you use just the electric power to move. Can you just hit the throttle and go?
Yep, this bike has a throttle.
You should indicate the rider weight when measuring braking distance, range and hill climb as this will affect the numbers you publish. Lighter riders will see different results from heavier riders. Thanks for the video!
Your review is pretty much as I have found with my 500.3. Only have had two weeks of ownership and found its a good cruiser on bike paths. We bought the step through and step over (I am tall) We added the fenders and the rear racks and found them useful with the puddles splash and the ability to carry jackets for early morning rides. We looked for the torque sensor when buying this bike and do not regret it.
Glad it's working out for you
Do you have similar results with the range test?
@@Red.exe7 yes we are happy with range PAS set to eco we get about 35 mile with 30 percent SoC left on near flat well groomed paths
Happy with the bike firs our life style in suburbia
What fenders did you get? Because in the section where it shows accessories compatible with this bike it shows no options for fenders. So I wouldn’t know what fenders to get.
What size is the model you're showing? ... how tall are you? not sure if you said on the video.
I got mine a few days ago. I’ve rode it multiple times every day since I’ve had it haha. It’s amazing.
Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
A great review. I have the original 500 and have bought the 500.3st, can't wait.
Thanks! We think you'll be impressed. Enjoy the new ride!
I have the original 500. How do you like your new 500.3 vs original? Thanks!
Quick question. I am looking to purchase this online through Aventon. There is a special for discount on an extra battery. Do you think there is a reason to have a 2nd battery? I don't plan on 50 mile bike rides. lol
A second battery is very nice if it's in your budget. 1. If you plan to ride a lot and you can take it with you, it's nice knowing you don't have to economize the battery as much by having a spare. A quick pit stop to swap out he batteries and you're back in business if the first one ran low on you 2. You'll have to wait several hours for a battery to recharge. It's usually not a huge deal if you remember to charge it the day before when you want to go ride it, but again, it's nice having a ready-to-go alternative option if you did forget and then you aren't being held up.
If you do end up buying one please click our link in the description before you purchase! It supports our team at no extra cost to you :)
does this bike take off on you when you start pedaling? my wife found that in a rental last year and gave her a problem. she is looking for a bike that does not jolt you back when starting off, any help would be appreciated
That jolt of power when starting out is typical of a bike using a cadence sensor and a speed-targeting PAS style (each level sets a speed target, using an arbitrary power curve to achieve it - the greater the difference between target and current speed, the more power is delivered).
A cadence sensor that uses a current/power management style delivers a set current/power for each level. It’s easier to manage than the speed style.
A torque sensor delivers power in proportion to the effort you exert through the pedals. It’s the easiest for managing power delivery, and thus for controlling the bike, and for matching speed with another rider. Each PAS level sets the ratio, up to the maximum the bike can deliver. For instance, the lowest level might match 20% of your effort, whereas the highest level might match 100-350% of your effort, up to the max the motor and controller can deliver. The downside is you have to exert more effort while climbing hills or maintaining higher speeds compared to cadence sensor bikes. That’s why I prefer models that use both a torque sensor and offer a throttle. You can use the throttle to ask for max effort from the bike and stack yours on top.
Good review and a very nice bike overall, but it's conspicuously missing an easily accessible odometer/trip meter. That might be inconsequential to many riders but as someone that uses an odometer as a simple navigation tool, it's a deal breaker.
That was an off change you have to press 2 buttons at the same time to access the trip but I believe the Odometer is on the main screen
@@mrc1436you can only view the trip distance screen while the bike is stopped. Very odd setup.
Great review! Thank you
That's what we're here for! Thank YOU!
12.8 amph....is pretty low...output
I bought this bike 3 months ago and it’s already defective, not worth the money
I’d be very suspicious of the above comment. Probably the competition. Almost all comments about this bike show that people are extremely happy with it including us.
No Fenders-No Pace 500.3
All dealer will stock the Pace fenders as well as racks and they are an easy install
thats the issue@@googled5172
Right now they have $200 in free accessories - I am getting a rear rack and fender set for FREE