Hi Riley, I am an old drag racer that has a '17 hell charger (I am 65 year old) . On stock tires at 2500 ft above sea level (the stock perrillies summers like yours) I turned a 4.0 (still on my recorder) on the street. My Trick? Use street suspension like you did for a little bit of weight transfer. BUT at the stop, put the trans into mann, use the paddle to shift it into 2nd before starting, yes start in 2nd. As soon as you come out of the hole, shift to auto b/c it can react quicker than you can (as you showed in one of your old videos with your charger) and then let it eat! You won't get the wheel hop you are getting either. Every hop slows the time downI just installed the Auttro 295/40/20s on the rear and now back at home in FL at sea level so will be going out soon for more 0 to 60s
Joe Henry Joe you don't need to put it in full manual then shift back ...just come to a stop and left paddle to 1st then right paddle to 2nd and go it will then shift the next gear on its own at max rpm it can ..Also another trick with A8 Hellcat is roll any speed and hold that speed - say 40mph in auto mode then hold the Left paddle the car will go down to the lowest gear it sees fit - let go of paddle and just mash the pedal it will again go through the gear box and won't short shift either its roll race mode
If you ever get advice from "an old drag racer", listen to him. They know tips and tricks that have been forgotten along the way and can give you an edge.
@Jose Carranza Polio Not much difference . Challenger set up just like a Charger is probably only a 1/10 or 2 different. They both are great. My Hellcat Charger ran 10.80s on drag pack with 2.9 0-60 at the strip.
With the same Mickey Thompson tire you have; I did a 2.9 zero to sixty in my 2016 Challenger Hellcat A8. Lower the air pressure to 14.5 lbs, and hold on!!
Hey Riley! Get the continental Extreme contact sports. Drag radials are good for the track with their bad in rain, bad in cornering and most times loud and uncomfortable. I like the extreme contact sports as they are wicked good in dry weather as well as wet! They also corner and handle amazing and have a top speed rating of 188! Love the wrap bro!
I have the older DWs and is it just me or do those tires have super soft sidewalls? It makes the car feel like the car is rolling. They do have amazing grip in wet and dry and were way cheaper than Michelin Pilot SS at least for 19s.
I think with any rwd/fwd gas powered cars with 400whp that drag radials are essential. I prefer nitto 555r’s as they last a lot longer, and can be driven in the rain.
Fwd you are probably right, in my m6 v10 I have around 600hp or 500whp and I still don't think I need drag tires. I think 600whp for rwd is good for a drag setup.
I love the drag setup. One thing you need that would almost make that car complete is a damn high performance cam and also you need to add Flowmaster 40 series and H pipes. Those three options would make that car scream like a 60s muscle car
Great Video. Less of a heater on the DR's, Mickey Thompson recommends a minimal burnout. Other than that, ever hear of MASKING TAPE? Saves most of the rubber cleanup after.
NEVER get caught in the rain with those MTs! I was in a light drizzle going 40 mph and not accelerating whatsoever. My mustang completely 360° into the ditch . The MTs hook great for track use but for dual purpose street use , the nitto 555 DR's which will be safe in a rain and still hook well on the track and street.
Lol yeah it's crazy that they come stock with 275s, and is the first thing that I would changeout if I ever got a cat. The 295s that I have on my challenger SRT8 are bad enough as it is, and is hard to control
@@jfresher925 no, they fit great and am getting ready to purchase a set of MT 315 drag radials. Which I've heard works without a spacer as well, but will make sure before I actually place the order
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 ok thanks for responding back i just ordered some 275s nitto nt555 for the rear and im thinking about going a lil bigger in the future right now i have the stock 245s
@@jfresher925 wow scats come with 245s ?, I didn't know that and is also way too narrow for the power that the 6.4 produces. Yeah you would be fine with 295s bud and may be able to go even fatter, but would check into that before I made any purchases like I said
Its not just about having 400+ hp if you're blowing through your tires on your launch then radials or sticky tires are gonna help. I make 220hp and 250tq at the wheels but my car weighs 2700lbs so it blows the tires off all of first gear and into 2nd.
Honestly, tires are the most important mod in any vehicle whether it’s drifting, drag, rally etc. tires are sooooo important I cannot express this enough.
“Running with socks on a wooden floor” also describes any FWD car making more than 300whp and 350wtq. Don’t ask me how I know… 🤫 Very fun bid vid with some very great analogies.
Riley check out Road Warrior paint protection for your lower rear area. Roll it on, let it dry, all the rubber sticks to it, not your paint, get it wet, peel it off, your done.
People really underestimate the importance of tires. I see guys running crazy engines and big brake kits but the cheapest tires they could find at tirerack in their size...
Thanks for posting this. I have been going back and forth on whether or not to get DRs. I was able to manage 4.3 seconds on my Conti Extreme Contact Sports with no burnout but I am running 315/35 20s on 10.5 inch wheels in the back on my Charger. Although instead of going the DR route I'm now contemplating getting a setup of straight slicks for the track on 18s. Decisions decisions.
What do you think about a decent size for a 550i gt bmw? I have a very similar 0-60 as you but I can not run smaller than 20” wheel due to the brakes. Currently have Pirelli 275/35/20 RF’s not ideal obviously with the stiffer run flat side walls however it is my daily w/o a spare. So with that being said, how much taller should my drag radial be? I have roughly 2.5” of taller tire clearance at a stand still.
Get the JLT splash shields! They'll protect the body from all that tire mess. I got em on my Daytona 392 and work like a champ! No crap on my car when I do a burnout or track days. Great vid btw, def gonna get that DR combo for next season.
I have a 16 mustang gt , an intake , Bigger throttle body and a tune , would it be worth to spend the extra money on some nittos nt555r or just get some less expensive street tires
As a muscle noob what needs to be done in order to fit the larger 305 on the rear? Obviously new set of wheels and the tires but is anything else needed or are these kind of "plug and play"? I am just curious!
you said you were going to keep everything the same. Did you do a burnout with the stock radials on? Or did you just use the heat from the drive to the spot?
I’m just got new tires 275 40 20 with perllis and I having a balance issue Rn when I drive over 50 it shakes I’m just mad Rn that I have to go check it out I have 275 all around too on a RT charger 2021
Great results. very cool indeed. also love the new black wheels for the drag radials much better. looks so cool with your cool wrap and white body.😎👍 maybe get a pair to match for front now.😎
RP Productions lol gotcha. It sounds like im going to eventually need another set of wheels for the rear And swap them when needed. I just wish i could find a matching set of my existing wheels but that will be tough. My other option is to just throw on the drag radials in the spring since i don't need to drive the car when it rains. Congrats on your success on your channel man. Im sure you will hit 100k before you know it. If you have any tips or advice on how i can grow my channel faster let me know. Thanks man
A while back you spoke about atturo az850s on your Scat pack, would those tires on a modified RT(headers, exhaust, intake) be better then the continentials you ran on your RT in the same size(275). Again I know your not an expert but from your experience I was wondering which you thought gripped better. I am spinning for the better part of the first 2 seconds on my 0-60 pulls and cant get better then a 6.0 (Nauseating I know)
Shit, 4.5 to 3.7 is pretty damn good. A little wheel spin just might save you from exploding your U joints, axles , differential , trans.....I just ordered a set of MT drag radials after using ET Streets at the track for the past 20 years and if these things work this good on a 700 HP car, they've gotta work pretty good on a 400 HP car. Anything has to be better than the street radials.
My Mustang does 4.6 on a perfect launch with 100% grip on my Michelin Pilot SuperSports. Just goes to show how much quicker a Hellcat is than a basic Mustang GT...
How pricey are drag radials? I wanna get Michelin Pilot Sport 4s for my stock Mustang GT. I never go on a track and daily drive it along with my Honda. Should I go with radials?
This test should have been done with tires the same size. Of course going from a 275 to a 305 in of itself should be better. If you're trying to confirm whether a drag radial is better, you should be comparing it to the same size summer tire you're using. Otherwise decent test.
I have a Mitsubishi Mirage with 16 inch wheels and I'm thinking of changing the stock tires to drag radials. Are they grippy on the road and will it aquaplane in rainy conditions or slippery roads ?
Someone please help me with a stupid question from a newb. Can a 2019 ZR1 automatic with 755 HP run slicks without ripping anything out of the car on the take off?
I know you already mentioned you could do a better 0-60 with the street tires. But 4.7 is a horrible 0-60 for a hellcat, especially considering a stock R/T challenger with a CAI can do 4.9 lmao and a stock scat pack does 4.2.
Running with socks on a wooden floor and summer tires on a hellcat is probably the best analogy I've heard 😂😂👌🏽
NickXIX right? lol
Bubba Blue he hit it spot on 😂
Decent amount of power really bro? 707 is a lot of hp
Hilarious! I agree!
Try soap on a trampoline
Only in America is 707 hp a "decent" amount of power 🤣
Chronic Adventures makes a change from the 5 litre engines doing 150 HP. 😁
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@@emiliano29171316 learn to learn, you dunce. Five seconds on Google could have saved you from looking ignorant.
Hi Riley, I am an old drag racer that has a '17 hell charger (I am 65 year old) . On stock tires at 2500 ft above sea level (the stock perrillies summers like yours) I turned a 4.0 (still on my recorder) on the street. My Trick? Use street suspension like you did for a little bit of weight transfer. BUT at the stop, put the trans into mann, use the paddle to shift it into 2nd before starting, yes start in 2nd. As soon as you come out of the hole, shift to auto b/c it can react quicker than you can (as you showed in one of your old videos with your charger) and then let it eat! You won't get the wheel hop you are getting either. Every hop slows the time downI just installed the Auttro 295/40/20s on the rear and now back at home in FL at sea level so will be going out soon for more 0 to 60s
Joe Henry Joe you don't need to put it in full manual then shift back ...just come to a stop and left paddle to 1st then right paddle to 2nd and go it will then shift the next gear on its own at max rpm it can ..Also another trick with A8 Hellcat is roll any speed and hold that speed - say 40mph in auto mode then hold the Left paddle the car will go down to the lowest gear it sees fit - let go of paddle and just mash the pedal it will again go through the gear box and won't short shift either its roll race mode
MrRevinto7 good info
I have 295s on my rear what psi should the rear be and the front is stock?!
"...and then let it eat!" lol i love it. Thats solid advice right there.
If you ever get advice from "an old drag racer", listen to him. They know tips and tricks that have been forgotten along the way and can give you an edge.
The amount of america in the first 0:30 secs is amazing
I got 3.1 0-60 on Mickeys in my stock charger this weekend. So you can get a lot better at the track.
@Jose Carranza Polio challenger ofc
@Jose Carranza Polio Not much difference . Challenger set up just like a Charger is probably only a 1/10 or 2 different. They both are great. My Hellcat Charger ran 10.80s on drag pack with 2.9 0-60 at the strip.
@Jose Carranza Polio Stock with aftermarket drag race wheels
@Jose Carranza Polio My wife wanted a 4 door. HEHE!. I have Redeye Challenger now though:)
What was the the tire specs / / / numbers #s
With the same Mickey Thompson tire you have; I did a 2.9 zero to sixty in my 2016 Challenger Hellcat A8. Lower the air pressure to 14.5 lbs, and hold on!!
When subtitles are on when the car starts and is idling it says “music”
Exactly UA-cam, exactly 👌🏼
Yeah I'd say they make a bit of a difference, LOL. Now we just need to get your car on a track in decent conditions!
Mason representing
I’m only 17 and i’m saving up to get a charger scat pack. Can’t wait!
Why so you can drive like an idiot and endanger people on the road?
drake man no so he can get your mom
Might as well save up for a down payment on a hellcat
Christopher Johnston save up extra cash and get a hellcat
drake man so he can pick up your sister 😂
Hey Riley! Get the continental Extreme contact sports. Drag radials are good for the track with their bad in rain, bad in cornering and most times loud and uncomfortable. I like the extreme contact sports as they are wicked good in dry weather as well as wet! They also corner and handle amazing and have a top speed rating of 188! Love the wrap bro!
As soon as I wear through the stock tires I'll definitely be looking into those! Had em on my 2014 Charger and loved them!
M&H Radials are pretty damn nice.
I have the older DWs and is it just me or do those tires have super soft sidewalls? It makes the car feel like the car is rolling. They do have amazing grip in wet and dry and were way cheaper than Michelin Pilot SS at least for 19s.
Road Slow 720 They do feel soft in sidewall. I ran them +2psi. I thought they had more bite than SS . My personal favorite
I think with any rwd/fwd gas powered cars with 400whp that drag radials are essential. I prefer nitto 555r’s as they last a lot longer, and can be driven in the rain.
How good in the rain?
@@mpresto15 they’re okay depending on how cold it is, and how worn they are. I drove it in the rain multiple times
Fwd you are probably right, in my m6 v10 I have around 600hp or 500whp and I still don't think I need drag tires. I think 600whp for rwd is good for a drag setup.
Shoulda kept this car...soo cool dude!😎
J G ikkkk
I love the drag setup. One thing you need that would almost make that car complete is a damn high performance cam and also you need to add Flowmaster 40 series and H pipes. Those three options would make that car scream like a 60s muscle car
what rpm did you launch at and what was the traction control on
Great Video. Less of a heater on the DR's, Mickey Thompson recommends a minimal burnout. Other than that, ever hear of MASKING TAPE? Saves most of the rubber cleanup after.
NEVER get caught in the rain with those MTs! I was in a light drizzle going 40 mph and not accelerating whatsoever. My mustang completely 360° into the ditch . The MTs hook great for track use but for dual purpose street use , the nitto 555 DR's which will be safe in a rain and still hook well on the track and street.
My father in law did the EXACT same thing with his Chevelle.
Yup you are on point
I just don’t like the life of the tires, shits don’t last at all.
Lol yeah it's crazy that they come stock with 275s, and is the first thing that I would changeout if I ever got a cat. The 295s that I have on my challenger SRT8 are bad enough as it is, and is hard to control
Did you have to put spacers on for the 295s to fit ?
@@jfresher925 no, they fit great and am getting ready to purchase a set of MT 315 drag radials. Which I've heard works without a spacer as well, but will make sure before I actually place the order
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 ok thanks for responding back i just ordered some 275s nitto nt555 for the rear and im thinking about going a lil bigger in the future right now i have the stock 245s
@@jfresher925 wow scats come with 245s ?, I didn't know that and is also way too narrow for the power that the 6.4 produces. Yeah you would be fine with 295s bud and may be able to go even fatter, but would check into that before I made any purchases like I said
@@independent2368 yeah scats come with 245s and my next tires after i put on these 275s will be 295s for sure
Glad I seen this, I'm going to try 4 of them in 17 inch on my truck next season
Could you daily these with stock 20’s up front? I know this is late, but I just got the same setup for my 2018 Scatpack
Its not just about having 400+ hp if you're blowing through your tires on your launch then radials or sticky tires are gonna help. I make 220hp and 250tq at the wheels but my car weighs 2700lbs so it blows the tires off all of first gear and into 2nd.
Facts
Facts
Honestly, tires are the most important mod in any vehicle whether it’s drifting, drag, rally etc. tires are sooooo important I cannot express this enough.
One of the best auto videos on the tube
Wow that difference is LEGIT
Better change out the driveshaft next RP
ALL 4 FUN and add a diff brace
What were the Drag tires used in the video exactly?
That’s crazy lol that my Camaro stock is 455hp & with stock tires my 0-60 best run was 4.4 seconds so I’m excited as to what these might do for me 😈
Nice video 👍🏻 I’ve always wondered what the difference truly was lol I’m not gonna get them for my mustang now, but for the coming Shelby yes 😎
“Running with socks on a wooden floor” also describes any FWD car making more than 300whp and 350wtq. Don’t ask me how I know… 🤫
Very fun bid vid with some very great analogies.
Riley check out Road Warrior paint protection for your lower rear area. Roll it on, let it dry, all the rubber sticks to it, not your paint, get it wet, peel it off, your done.
3 tenths off 1/4 mile for every tenth of 60’ is rule of thumb.
Owens Racing that's only for a perfect run all the way thru
It's more like 2 tenths.
People really underestimate the importance of tires. I see guys running crazy engines and big brake kits but the cheapest tires they could find at tirerack in their size...
I got the exact same setup but can i drive daily on them?? Never know when i got to race those mustangs, gotta be ready all the time lol
Next time, apply wax to the quarters behind the wheels. When you're done blowing chunks of rubber off the tires is makes cleaning up much easier
Stick these on basically an FWD racecar and you will actually feel such a difference
Thanks for posting this. I have been going back and forth on whether or not to get DRs. I was able to manage 4.3 seconds on my Conti Extreme Contact Sports with no burnout but I am running 315/35 20s on 10.5 inch wheels in the back on my Charger. Although instead of going the DR route I'm now contemplating getting a setup of straight slicks for the track on 18s. Decisions decisions.
The dodge demon has near drag radials as standard! That’s crazy!
What do you think about a decent size for a 550i gt bmw? I have a very similar 0-60 as you but I can not run smaller than 20” wheel due to the brakes. Currently have Pirelli 275/35/20 RF’s not ideal obviously with the stiffer run flat side walls however it is my daily w/o a spare. So with that being said, how much taller should my drag radial be? I have roughly 2.5” of taller tire clearance at a stand still.
Started to black out when you started doing math
same
Eric Villa Lmfao
😂
Woke up watching something else lol
Then you don't even want to get into suspension tuning
New drag radials ordered today. Can’t wait to see the difference 👍
Was there a difference? And also is it good for the streets
Get the JLT splash shields! They'll protect the body from all that tire mess. I got em on my Daytona 392 and work like a champ! No crap on my car when I do a burnout or track days.
Great vid btw, def gonna get that DR combo for next season.
I have a 16 mustang gt , an intake , Bigger throttle body and a tune , would it be worth to spend the extra money on some nittos nt555r or just get some less expensive street tires
Do you think these tires will be good for my 392 challenger?
Awesome test bro, what PSI was the tires at ?
How much time can drag radials cut on a 1999 Camry’s quarter mile? Asking for myself
As a muscle noob what needs to be done in order to fit the larger 305 on the rear? Obviously new set of wheels and the tires but is anything else needed or are these kind of "plug and play"? I am just curious!
Lol @ that start tho. A pack of predators hunting down that German prey 😁
On 20" Invos, in my gt500 I can get 4.2-4.5 0-60
you said you were going to keep everything the same. Did you do a burnout with the stock radials on? Or did you just use the heat from the drive to the spot?
They had a few failed passed on them before the 4.6 shown in the video. So basically 2-3 small rolling burnouts on the street tires lol
You don't burnout on regular street tires.
I’m just got new tires 275 40 20 with perllis and I having a balance issue Rn when I drive over 50 it shakes I’m just mad Rn that I have to go check it out I have 275 all around too on a RT charger 2021
Great vid, question what kind of wheels you had in the rear with the M/T what speciations?? Thanks
Are u using launch control? An do u floor it or do half way then floor it
I loved this video. It helped me decide on what I wanted to do.
Drs and drive shaft are a must for these cars. And even then u got to learn how to launch
Great results. very cool indeed.
also love the new black wheels for the drag radials much better. looks so cool with your cool wrap and white body.😎👍
maybe get a pair to match for front now.😎
Thats the same brand of drag radial that im thinking of getting for my widebody hellcat. Just wondering if i can use my stock wheel.
For your widebody definitely!
Wouldn't recommend daily driving these though. One puddle and you're in for a surprise lol
RP Productions lol gotcha. It sounds like im going to eventually need another set of wheels for the rear And swap them when needed. I just wish i could find a matching set of my existing wheels but that will be tough. My other option is to just throw on the drag radials in the spring since i don't need to drive the car when it rains. Congrats on your success on your channel man. Im sure you will hit 100k before you know it. If you have any tips or advice on how i can grow my channel faster let me know. Thanks man
What’s your drag radial setup?
Love the content man...keep up the good work ✊🏾
Thank you for the video my dude!
Oh!!?? Do the 18" wheels fit ok on the rear of the Challenger?
HOW DID U GO about ur tire sensor light???
So u mean to tell me that you just figured out that that drag radials give u faster drag times.... 😂😂😂😂😂 holy shit.... ur special.
A while back you spoke about atturo az850s on your Scat pack, would those tires on a modified RT(headers, exhaust, intake) be better then the continentials you ran on your RT in the same size(275). Again I know your not an expert but from your experience I was wondering which you thought gripped better. I am spinning for the better part of the first 2 seconds on my 0-60 pulls and cant get better then a 6.0 (Nauseating I know)
Maybe i didn't catch it. But what size tires and rims did you use for the drag radials?
What rims are you using?
Those are the bravado’s 18x10? I have a helllcat charger and was thinking of getting those. What did you do about the tpms?
Yes they are! And no TPMS since they're just for racing.
Wish you'd have discussed the price diff for us not in the know.
Can someone please clarify the set up he’s running with the MT. Is that on a stock Rim size and did he
Keep 275s on front?
Shit, 4.5 to 3.7 is pretty damn good. A little wheel spin just might save you from exploding your U joints, axles , differential , trans.....I just ordered a set of MT drag radials after using ET Streets at the track for the past 20 years and if these things work this good on a 700 HP car, they've gotta work pretty good on a 400 HP car. Anything has to be better than the street radials.
My Mustang does 4.6 on a perfect launch with 100% grip on my Michelin Pilot SuperSports. Just goes to show how much quicker a Hellcat is than a basic Mustang GT...
Let me know how those do in the long run (The drag radials/Mickey Thompson ET Street Rs), because I'm looking at getting them in a 17 inch!
I'm interested to know as well! So far they've been great but they will be seeing a lot more use soon.
How pricey are drag radials? I wanna get Michelin Pilot Sport 4s for my stock Mustang GT. I never go on a track and daily drive it along with my Honda. Should I go with radials?
No do not get radials your choice is very good.
Always Entertaining!
This test should have been done with tires the same size. Of course going from a 275 to a 305 in of itself should be better. If you're trying to confirm whether a drag radial is better, you should be comparing it to the same size summer tire you're using. Otherwise decent test.
Very informative video sir!
Did u heat up the stock tires?
How many miles do the Mickey Thompson’s street ss last
I have a Mitsubishi Mirage with 16 inch wheels and I'm thinking of changing the stock tires to drag radials. Are they grippy on the road and will it aquaplane in rainy conditions or slippery roads ?
Hope this was a troll comment
are all of these cars auto-matic ?
I wish It would have Compared tires of the same demsions.
I did 3.6 in my A8 scat on those same exact wheels/DRs on the street yesterday.
Tire pressures on street and DR tires?
Rp have you had any issues with getting your cars inspected in Texas with the cats deleted?
Someone please help me with a stupid question from a newb. Can a 2019 ZR1 automatic with 755 HP run slicks without ripping anything out of the car on the take off?
Sure
I see a broken driveshaft in your future? Did you upgrade it?
Wish he ran at least the same width tires. Because now we are also comparing new tires that are 1-1/2" wider.
Decent amount of power LOL 😂
Appreciate the video. Great info
Have the same wheels and tires on my sister's challenger.. on the street they are still pretty worthless on her set up.. at the track they're amazing.
What’s the wheel and tires setup size of wheels and tires are 305 45 18
Did you warm up the street tire to ? If not your test is disqualified for not following the same procedure for each tire
Can you make a video with the same comparison but on a dyno to see if the softer compound can alter dyno results?
No
2.2 sec 60' vs. 1.6 sec 60' is about 2 sec difference in 1/4 mile time, it's huge.
not for the same car...
If youre ever in Dallas look me up. I have a boosted v6 puttng down 4.4 0-60
Did you air down the radials?
I know you already mentioned you could do a better 0-60 with the street tires. But 4.7 is a horrible 0-60 for a hellcat, especially considering a stock R/T challenger with a CAI can do 4.9 lmao and a stock scat pack does 4.2.
Traction.
Hell yea awesome video!
What brand and size are the 18 inch rear wheels? Width
My friends Challenger scat pack, 2.2 second 60 foot times. 1985 Corvette 230 hp engine 1.93 second 60 foot times. The difference? Tires!
How would those Mickey Thomson drags do on a Awd srt8? Thanks Man
Try leaving TC on once. It seriously improved my 0 to 60.