Im a carpenter of 40 years. I watch videos like this to sometimes get another perspective on things. And sometimes remind me of something I forgot. You did a fine job. Thanks
I'm a retired carpenter and I use a framing square and a set of "dogs", no time to build a "template", but I can see how this would help a non-carpenter.
I'm a retired framing carpenter. I was full time for 34 years and have cut hundreds of stairs in. This is a fine idea. It's much easier and more accurate than just a framing square, buttons or not.Sliding that board along instead of adjusting the framing square, riding squarely on a wide area instead of buttons slipping over the rounded edge or catching in divots, it's perfectly fine. Good job!
i have to say a framing square with buttons is quicker easier and more accurate.. someone who uses this method is likely a home owner or beginner, their cutting and line placement likely isnt perfect yet, if theyre off by even an eight on the cuts thatll add up for each step.. a 12 stair run and theyll be out an inch and a half its far easier to get buttons accurate on a square.. and if you dont have buttons and just place the square with marks on your measurements atleast if you place it off an 1/8" youre only changing one step the 1/8" youre not gonna place every stair an eight short in the same direction
I've been a carpenter for 20-plus years and we were always taught to work smarter not harder and this kid's idea seems pretty smart to me. Great job buddy, I like your idea 👍
That is so much easier to do than any of the other 20 stringer videos I've watched. I am a novice at this and find this to be the best one yet. Thank you for such an easy way to do it!
I’m a retired builder and wish I had known this sliding jig method 40 years ago! I’m sure my Framing Square would have spent more time in the truck! You can teach an old framer new tricks!😊 Great lesson young man!
I'm a 67 yr old woman and appreciate this video so much. Plan to make wooden steps for my seasonal camper and need to cut my own stringers since premade have too tall of a rise for my situation. Thank you!
I’m a missionary in Ghana from the U.S. I had a project here to put A concrete stairway up 11’. I checked out UA-cam for a video showing an easier way than a framing square. Yours was my third video and I looked no further. Today I cut my streamers and will finish my forms tomorrow. Easypezy!
I noticed in the comments, several people are criticizing this simple and easy method for the Do It Yourselfers. If you critics are such experts, why are YOU watching a DIY channel on how to cut stringers? Amateurs built the ark, experts built the titanic!
The expert keeps up with his/her knowledge base by hiring someone else in the trade, watching videos, reading, expo's, etc. 'coz time is money. (Seeing a new thing even in an advert could change your world)
Mark Willie the negative comments arent from people watching so they learn how to do it, theyre watching to find fault, so they have something to criticise! In regard to the ark and titanic, the build quality of the titanic wasnt the reason it sank. It was weakened metal caused by an undiscovered fire amongst the coal, which caused a side plate to split open when it glanced a side impact on the iceberg. If the story of the ark is true, it took Noah 120 years to build it so it should have been good!
Mark, I wouldn't pay attention to the people who don't like your videos! There's more of us who do appreciate what you're doing. Please keep your videos coming, your very much appreciated. Thank you.
that is a very stupid thing to say. First off, who is actually not liking his videos? Why are you changing, them criticizing his techniques, to not liking the videos? The people who don't pay attention to others and what they say, are the ones who will not get better. Rose colored glasses don't tell you the truth.
@@AztecWarrior69_69 I agree. There was no disclaimer in the video about other people's opinions not mattering. And sharing opinions does not equate to disliking.
Good job bro . People make this seem like it’s some kind of rocket science lol . Ridiculously easy . I’m tackling my first stringers tomorrow . Thanks buddy .
I've been using this method for just a little over 40 years. Shared it with dozens, but this is the first time I've ever seen it presented by someone else, bravo! Here are a few small differences; 1) I typically cut the guide block slightly short of the triangle corners so that I can get into tight places, 2) for extreme accuracy, I'll hold a tape measure against the riser leg of the guide as I mark the "pattern", 3) save the guide block for later use when laying out the newel posts, pickets, trim stringers, and etc,
Retired construction inspector; we used to call them stair riser templates old days but as time went on got set of stair angle gauges that fit on steel square and slide back and forth to set very accurate angles after you got the total rise and run measurement. Great job explaining for the newbe carpenters .
Thanks so much for this help ! I am building a staircase into our new tree hut. 11 feet to the floor, so I need 16 steps. Your pattern makes this so easy, and I checked the steps before I start cutting, they are almost prefect level, just a tiny pitch for the water to drain................LOVE IT
Excellent explanation to avoid the common first step mistake. Rather than building the jig you can use an L shaped square. Painters tape or clamps at 10 and 7 inches marks on each leg. Fast, accurate and reusable.
I'm an almost 65 year young Aussie who has been playing with wood for almost 50 years & only made wooden steps once (years ago) wish I had seen your video first 🤔🤨
This is pretty simple, but most stairs are not quite so easy if you get into interior stairs. The math gets more complicated when you have a limited space for your run. Six to eight inches is always what I tried to get when figuring rise. Eight inches is a fairly steep set of stairs. Stairs and rafters were the hardest for a newbie to figure out and then cut.
Good cheat is rise plus run should be as close to 18 as possible.. No less than 17 and no greater than 19 which would result in unnatural/uncomfortable strides and potential trip hazards.
Well you should do a video on a easy way to figure how to put stairs in where you don't have room like putting in landings, spiral stairs. And so forth
that's awsome I'm a old sheet rocker 33 years of hanging and another old sheet rocker showed me a similar trick like that years ago that I use to this day for cutting and notching my board around stairs when need be and I even used it on a round wall one time at the bottom of the stairs worked great big time saver !!!
I am a carpenter by trade , and have to say this is a great idea ,one I never thought of , but just watched and actually like better than the method I normally use (framing square with stringer nuts ) , I also believe this would be more accurate and efficient simply because you can gain a sixteenth here and there if your not paying attention when using a framing square . The other variable is the lumber he is using , its full of water , and will shrink . So if you use the same type of lumber , treated that is , dont cut your stringers one day , then install them the next day , you wont like the results . I have made that mistake and it can get expensive with todays lumber costs .
Sir, I'm building steps for my deck now and I have looked at wayyyy to many videos on how to build steps! I was as confused as i could be UNTIL I LOOKED AT YOURRSSSS! wow, I think I have it now! Cant wait to get home and try this!
Yep Sir you dumbed it down for sure and don’t tell anyone, but I’m a math teacher and I needed a special ed teacher for this one…my goodness! No one started at the beginning! I just didn’t know how to get started from the first cut.
Not a bad idea. I usually build my runners 11" so that two 2x6's work out right. Stairs used to scare me when I was first starting to do carpenter work but once you figure them out, you realize they're a cake walk as long as the odd step ends up on the bottom. Short top steps are very dangerous.
I've came in behind framers and ripped out several sets of steps Cause they didn't look at the prints to see what was going on top of the sub flooring 👍
Journeyman carpenter 20 years.i love this method.the last time i used a framing square and gauges for stairs was when i was a second year.i was lucky to work for a great old school roofer.
I've been a carpenter for 25 years, and I'm always looking for ways to do something better and faster!!! I like this way, especially for people who are new at carpentry!!!! Time is money and in this situation it is 100% faster then the standard!
Wow!!! I will be 69 years young on my next birthday. I could learn soooo much from a good young teacher like you! I will save this video and use your very good instructions on a couple of upcoming projects. Thank you for posting this video!
I just use the stair buttons (what I call them) and clamp them on my framing square. Steps aren't always the same depending on the height of the rise. If you build a lot of stair stringers and don't want a couple dozen jigs to cart around then buy a set of stair buttons.
I believe that if you watch the vid again the first step is to make your jig using part of the wood you are making the stringer out of. As each set of stairs is unique to its application the past jigs you used before are not the one you want now. That is why you make a new one for each job unless you are doing new construction where hopefully everything is mostly the same thing. Not any different than changing the stair buttons on your framing square, probably about the same speed once you get use to using the method without having to keep track or look for the buttons.
This is useful to someone who likes to use jigs, Using your framing square, you could have all your stringers laid out and cut in the time it takes you to build this jig.
If you stack your first stringer you cut on top of a 2nd board when you cut through it will mark your 2nd stringer for you and so on,another time saver and it is very accurate
Thank you for sharing. What sounds like a family secret. If you came up with that yourself, you started the family secret I think God for you young man and I pray that he will continue to bless you with work that you can use your skills to provide for your family and glorify him. Thanks again big help.
What a great idea, I was a carpenter for twenty years - framing and outside trimming- And I found your way as easy piecy. Framing square is fine. But your way I really like S.A. Tx.
I am a production and custom stair builder of 37 years. This idea is cute but a framing square with stair guides are the only way to layout a stair stringer. I would then trace my stringer out of plywood for a template to be accurate in over all length. If you used a cutoff piece like this guy is using your stringers would more than likely be a little different in overall length.
When you've got to have a lot of exact duplicates, it's best to come up with a jig or template. I'm an architect and I can tell you when we draw stairs we don't draw each line individually, one after another. We draw a single tread / riser and copy it toe-to-toe.
Thank you for the video. It is very helpful as I'm starting on my stairs today. I do have a question. At the marking segment of the video (4:00), You started the initial marking without any measuring. How do you know how far to start down the board to began marking the stringer? The part that would be the top of the stringer or stairs. Hopefully my question makes sense. Thank you!
It doesn't matter, use the cleanest part of the 2x6. He screwed up that part of the explanation. The top end of the stringer ends with a run not a rise. That first rise mark he made gets cut all way the way thru the board at that angle.
You wouldn't belive how many "pros" there are that don't know to cut the tread hight off the bottom of the stringer. Anybody that has a set of stairs, probably to a basement, that the bottom step is taller than all the rest and the top one is shorter than all the rest, this is why. Nice job!
In Michigan, it's code to have a minimum of a 3 ft landing in front of any access door. It's very awkward to use stairs in this configuration. I appreciate your ingenuity, however, an inexpensive set of stair nuts to secure to your framing square really is a better option, in my opinion, having built over 50 sets of stairs, indoors and out. Keep up your learning. Thanks for posting.
My father never crossed his circular saw cuts at inside corners, just finished them carefully with one of his super sharp hand saws. I'm still walking on a front porch, six-riser design he cut back in the mid '50s. The nails failed, but wood lives on.
Agree. Especially when you gotta think. Background loops adds another thing the brain has to analyze again and again each nanosecond for threat, purpose, usefulness, how to store (long/short), etc., etc., etc. Background music/noise is tiresome, repetitive, annoying and unwelcome at best. Usually, aggravating.
Awesome, simple way to go over rise over run without making it sound like hard math like a lot of people. Just divide measured Hight by how many stair/their height. Account for extra thickness of whatever board will be on each step. Made it damn near dummy proof.
As a professional carpenter and stair builder, the wood template is only going to be as accurate as your saw cuts and assembly. Any error is going to be transfered to the stringer and multiplied by the number of steps (typically 13.) There's a reason why we typically use a framing square and stair gauges. Your stair-hack is nothing but an old carpenter trick and one who didn't happen to have the right tools on hand. There's also a difference between rough, framing carpenters and finish carpenters. A rough carpenter would have no problem with such a template, whereas a finish carpenter might have some reservations.
Hi Eric. When you put the jig on the first stringer, the riser edge of the jig was pulled down, away from the end of the stringer. How far was that and why? Thank you. 😁
Excellent video definitely takes a lot of the fear out of building some steps. One question I had was he mentioned the run was 10” but how did you come up with that number?
Usually the run for a step is determined by multiplying the riser height by 2 and then subtract that total from the #25 or #24. Each step should have a 1" overhang (nose) extending past the riser.
I’ve used this method myself, makes it easier, just some friendly advice to add and mark all the hypotenuses to double check you didn’t have cumulative error…
You should mention that as a rule of thumb the (rise inches + run inches) should add up to 17 or 17 1/2 inches just like your example. Also, many times exterior stairs are limited to 6 inches rise for safety.
I learned in carpentry school to use a rafter/framing square. If you know how to use one properly, you can create stringers at any pitch of stairs. I learned how to determine the tread and riser length depending on the pitch. Nowadays everyone is looking for a shortcut.
I'm not a carpenter by any means, but over the years I've built probably a dozen sets of stairs. I almost always F up the first stringer, then get it. I really like this method. The trick is: Will I remember it whenever I need it? Hope so! Thanks!
Great idea. I once used a square to do the lay out, what I didn't realize was the square measure marks from one side to the other didn't match, so my 'perfectly measured' treads were wonky, till I figured out the problem with my square. I am about to embark on another set of stairs. This will help me out, thanks.
Started carpentry work when I was 16, I'm now 70. When you were marking out the tread and risers, it reminded me of one of my first days on the job. I was squaring up some 2x4's with my newly acquired speed square, and the foreman asked me, if I was going to mark them through, or cut them.
The best system is the one that is the easiest for you . i'm terrible in math so i devised different ways of scribing over the years . one of the coolest stair building books for math dummies like myself was a book of tables with just about every conceivable run and rise combination .i remember where i bought it or even if it still exists .
i have to cut lots of stringers for work. Boss lays out the first one, then l take the first 2 cut outs and make a jig, it works as a saw guide for both angle cuts. With 4+ stringers, every cut will match up perfectly. Don't forget to treat those cuts before adding treads & they'll last a lifetime.
you should calculate your rise from where the first step will land, not from the sill against the house. other than that this video opened my eyes to a very good method
A framing square and brass stair gauges. As simple as it gets. Mark the first stringer, then lay it on top of the second 2x12. Run 2 screws thru both 2x12s to keep them from shifting. Cut the top stringer remove it, the bottom stringer is then cut halfway thru so no need to mark and both are an exact match...
Nice job bro! Keep up the good work thank you for sharing and taking the chance with all the insecure know it alls out there! I don’t do it this way, but this works just fine I’m gonna try it next week, I love seeing another perspective. Blessings!
1:00. When I measure the total rise, i like to level out to where the lowest tread will be. That eliminates the unevenness of the ground or even a wavy floor in an old place.
Yes I measured off of the door but if the ground is not level you have to off the measure ment where last tread is going to be or level like what your saying.
In a fraction of the time to make a one time use template, anyone with an often forgotten framing square can do the same task. You can buy clamps for a framing square that turn it into a template, or use blue tape to mark your registration lines.
I always thought it was pretty easy making stair stringers, though I do it so rarely that I always have to relearn- just measure everything 4 times and take your time, remeasure and be sure- 2x12s are expensive! I do gotta say though- this is brilliant! Also- do your first stringer and use it as a Stencil for the others you need instead of doing this every time- you could end up with things being slightly off if you repeat the process and don't use the first one you cut as a reference. I should add too- those pre-cut stringers SUCK. Seriously- cut them yourself, it's worth it every time.
@@projectdiy873 I made the jig and traced my pattern. Hoping to cut it out tomorrow. I had bought stair gauges for my square and set it up. I noticed it’s a little tricky to see the measurement when setting them. I like your jig idea better so I’m using it. Very good explanation especially about taking the inch off! Thanks!
Im a carpenter of 40 years. I watch videos like this to sometimes get another perspective on things. And sometimes remind me of something I forgot. You did a fine job. Thanks
Thanks
Me too... you said it exactly
Funny, because from your profile picture you don't look a day over 21
40 years , and you use a template ?????
I'm a retired carpenter and I use a framing square and a set of "dogs", no time to build a "template", but I can see how this would help a non-carpenter.
I'm a retired framing carpenter. I was full time for 34 years and have cut hundreds of stairs in.
This is a fine idea. It's much easier and more accurate than just a framing square, buttons or not.Sliding that board along instead of adjusting the framing square, riding squarely on a wide area instead of buttons slipping over the rounded edge or catching in divots, it's perfectly fine. Good job!
Thanks hope it helps
Nothing is more accurate than a finely made framing square Mr..
i have to say a framing square with buttons is quicker easier and more accurate.. someone who uses this method is likely a home owner or beginner, their cutting and line placement likely isnt perfect yet, if theyre off by even an eight on the cuts thatll add up for each step.. a 12 stair run and theyll be out an inch and a half
its far easier to get buttons accurate on a square.. and if you dont have buttons and just place the square with marks on your measurements atleast if you place it off an 1/8" youre only changing one step the 1/8" youre not gonna place every stair an eight short in the same direction
Totally agree👍
I've been a carpenter never and I feel like this is a joke! Why wouldn't you just buy them already cut at Lowes. How stubborn we can be!
I've been a carpenter for 20-plus years and we were always taught to work smarter not harder and this kid's idea seems pretty smart to me. Great job buddy, I like your idea 👍
Thanks hope it was a help
That is so much easier to do than any of the other 20 stringer videos I've watched. I am a novice at this and find this to be the best one yet. Thank you for such an easy way to do it!
@mp-sj4fz Glad to hear! Hope it helps and thanks for watching!!
I’m a retired builder and wish I had known this sliding jig method 40 years ago! I’m sure my Framing Square would have spent more time in the truck! You can teach an old framer new tricks!😊 Great lesson young man!
Thanks
🤣🤣🤣 You expect anybody to believe that?
People are always stealing my square so who needs one?
Well said mate 👍
I'm a 67 yr old woman and appreciate this video so much. Plan to make wooden steps for my seasonal camper and need to cut my own stringers since premade have too tall of a rise for my situation. Thank you!
@karenk469 thanks for watching and good luck with your stringers!
I’m a missionary in Ghana from the U.S. I had a project here to put A concrete stairway up 11’. I checked out UA-cam for a video showing an easier way than a framing square. Yours was my third video and I looked no further. Today I cut my streamers and will finish my forms tomorrow. Easypezy!
Well I am glad it was a help. Especially to a missionary.
I noticed in the comments, several people are criticizing this simple and easy method for the Do It Yourselfers. If you critics are such experts, why are YOU watching a DIY channel on how to cut stringers? Amateurs built the ark, experts built the titanic!
Well said
The expert keeps up with his/her knowledge base by hiring someone else in the trade, watching videos, reading, expo's, etc. 'coz time is money. (Seeing a new thing even in an advert could change your world)
Your comment put a big smile on my face!!🤣
Good point... right on the money.
Mark Willie the negative comments arent from people watching so they learn how to do it, theyre watching to find fault, so they have something to criticise!
In regard to the ark and titanic, the build quality of the titanic wasnt the reason it sank. It was weakened metal caused by an undiscovered fire amongst the coal, which caused a side plate to split open when it glanced a side impact on the iceberg. If the story of the ark is true, it took Noah 120 years to build it so it should have been good!
Mark, I wouldn't pay attention to the people who don't like your videos! There's more of us who do appreciate what you're doing. Please keep your videos coming, your very much appreciated. Thank you.
that is a very stupid thing to say. First off, who is actually not liking his videos? Why are you changing, them criticizing his techniques, to not liking the videos? The people who don't pay attention to others and what they say, are the ones who will not get better. Rose colored glasses don't tell you the truth.
@@AztecWarrior69_69 I agree. There was no disclaimer in the video about other people's opinions not mattering. And sharing opinions does not equate to disliking.
@@6XXBANSHEEXX8 yup
Good job bro . People make this seem like it’s some kind of rocket science lol . Ridiculously easy . I’m tackling my first stringers tomorrow . Thanks buddy .
Yes sir hope it helps and thanks for watching!!
@joshwhitney7463 just remember you CANT BE OFF BY EVEN AN 1/8.if u got your numbers right you'll be fine.
Good job. Im a carpenter of 33yrs. You did a fine job. Keep up the good work. Its your job to bring up the next generation 😁
I've been using this method for just a little over 40 years. Shared it with dozens, but this is the first time I've ever seen it presented by someone else, bravo! Here are a few small differences; 1) I typically cut the guide block slightly short of the triangle corners so that I can get into tight places, 2) for extreme accuracy, I'll hold a tape measure against the riser leg of the guide as I mark the "pattern", 3) save the guide block for later use when laying out the newel posts, pickets, trim stringers, and etc,
Thanks for the tips especially for a first timer and old timer like myself 👍 8:02
For accuracy, I never use a tape measure.
if you have a sloped ground, be sure to check height at the point where the bottom step will land
Nice way to inform people of a grate way to step it up
Retired construction inspector; we used to call them stair riser templates old days but as time went on got set of stair angle gauges that fit on steel square and slide back and forth to set very accurate angles after you got the total rise and run measurement. Great job explaining for the newbe carpenters .
excellent ! Makes a confusing and potentially dangerous job a piece of cake…Carry on and know that your work is greatly appreciated!
Thanks glad it was of help
This was very well explained. You anticipated and addressed every question I had. Many thanks.
Glad it was of help
why do so many people think they need music in the background? don't they want us to hear them?
Why someone always complaining!
I can hear him fine. Turn up your hearing aid
Thanks so much for this help ! I am building a staircase into our new tree hut. 11 feet to the floor, so I need 16 steps. Your pattern makes this so easy, and I checked the steps before I start cutting, they are almost prefect level, just a tiny pitch for the water to drain................LOVE IT
Sweet glad it helped out
Excellent explanation to avoid the common first step mistake. Rather than building the jig you can use an L shaped square. Painters tape or clamps at 10 and 7 inches marks on each leg. Fast, accurate and reusable.
I love my squi-jig for this
I'm an almost 65 year young Aussie who has been playing with wood for almost 50 years & only made wooden steps once (years ago) wish I had seen your video first 🤔🤨
This is pretty simple, but most stairs are not quite so easy if you get into interior stairs. The math gets more complicated when you have a limited space for your run. Six to eight inches is always what I tried to get when figuring rise. Eight inches is a fairly steep set of stairs. Stairs and rafters were the hardest for a newbie to figure out and then cut.
I love it when a diy newbie rips out their stairs and attempts a “new look”. Brings a little extra work my way ;)
Good cheat is rise plus run should be as close to 18 as possible.. No less than 17 and no greater than 19 which would result in unnatural/uncomfortable strides and potential trip hazards.
Well you should do a video on a easy way to figure how to put stairs in where you don't have room like putting in landings, spiral stairs. And so forth
that's awsome I'm a old sheet rocker 33 years of hanging and another old sheet rocker showed me a similar trick like that years ago that I use to this day for cutting and notching my board around stairs when need be and I even used it on a round wall one time at the bottom of the stairs worked great big time saver !!!
I am a carpenter by trade , and have to say this is a great idea ,one I never thought of , but just watched and actually like better than the method I normally use (framing square with stringer nuts ) , I also believe this would be more accurate and efficient simply because you can gain a sixteenth here and there if your not paying attention when using a framing square . The other variable is the lumber he is using , its full of water , and will shrink . So if you use the same type of lumber , treated that is , dont cut your stringers one day , then install them the next day , you wont like the results . I have made that mistake and it can get expensive with todays lumber costs .
Thank you👌
Sir, I'm building steps for my deck now and I have looked at wayyyy to many videos on how to build steps! I was as confused as i could be UNTIL I LOOKED AT YOURRSSSS! wow, I think I have it now! Cant wait to get home and try this!
I am glad it was of help.
Yep Sir you dumbed it down for sure and don’t tell anyone, but I’m a math teacher and I needed a special ed teacher for this one…my goodness! No one started at the beginning! I just didn’t know how to get started from the first cut.
@@KymTube yes sir KISS is the simplest method. Glad it helped
Not a bad idea. I usually build my runners 11" so that two 2x6's work out right. Stairs used to scare me when I was first starting to do carpenter work but once you figure them out, you realize they're a cake walk as long as the odd step ends up on the bottom. Short top steps are very dangerous.
I've came in behind framers and ripped out several sets of steps Cause they didn't look at the prints to see what was going on top of the sub flooring 👍
Journeyman carpenter 20 years.i love this method.the last time i used a framing square and gauges for stairs was when i was a second year.i was lucky to work for a great old school roofer.
I've been a carpenter for 25 years, and I'm always looking for ways to do something better and faster!!! I like this way, especially for people who are new at carpentry!!!!
Time is money and in this situation it is 100% faster then the standard!
Wow!!! I will be 69 years young on my next birthday. I could learn soooo much from a good young teacher like you! I will save this video and use your very good instructions on a couple of upcoming projects. Thank you for posting this video!
Glad to hear you liked. Hope it helps out on tour next project. Thanks for watching!!
Like the fact you use the simplest of methods, no fancy tools.👍😊
I just use the stair buttons (what I call them) and clamp them on my framing square. Steps aren't always the same depending on the height of the rise. If you build a lot of stair stringers and don't want a couple dozen jigs to cart around then buy a set of stair buttons.
Been using that method for 20+ YEARS. Tried and true. Rise and run. I can appreciate another method but I'll stick with what I know.
I believe that if you watch the vid again the first step is to make your jig using part of the wood you are making the stringer out of. As each set of stairs is unique to its application the past jigs you used before are not the one you want now. That is why you make a new one for each job unless you are doing new construction where hopefully everything is mostly the same thing. Not any different than changing the stair buttons on your framing square, probably about the same speed once you get use to using the method without having to keep track or look for the buttons.
we always called them stair dogs
I lost my frame and square. Your jig came in so helpful on a repair job thank you
Glad it helped
This is useful to someone who likes to use jigs, Using your framing square, you could have all your stringers laid out and cut in the time it takes you to build this jig.
Maybe you could, but a DIY guy doing it once in his life can't.
If you stack your first stringer you cut on top of a 2nd board when you cut through it will mark your 2nd stringer for you and so on,another time saver and it is very accurate
Thank you for sharing. What sounds like a family secret. If you came up with that yourself, you started the family secret I think God for you young man and I pray that he will continue to bless you with work that you can use your skills to provide for your family and glorify him. Thanks again big help.
Glad it was a help!!
This is a great tip. Thanks for sharing!
No prob hope it helps
What a great idea, I was a carpenter for twenty years
- framing and outside trimming-
And I found your way as easy piecy. Framing square is fine.
But your way I really like
S.A. Tx.
I am a production and custom stair builder of 37 years. This idea is cute but a framing square with stair guides are the only way to layout a stair stringer. I would then trace my stringer out of plywood for a template to be accurate in over all length. If you used a cutoff piece like this guy is using your stringers would more than likely be a little different in overall length.
I saved your video. I'm currently building some stairs, and I really like the jig. I appreciate your video. Thank you.
No problem hope it helps out
You should get the origindl measurement where the stairs actually will be touching down especially if they. R deck stringers landing in the yard
When you've got to have a lot of exact duplicates, it's best to come up with a jig or template. I'm an architect and I can tell you when we draw stairs we don't draw each line individually, one after another. We draw a single tread / riser and copy it toe-to-toe.
Thank you for the video. It is very helpful as I'm starting on my stairs today. I do have a question. At the marking segment of the video (4:00), You started the initial marking without any measuring. How do you know how far to start down the board to began marking the stringer? The part that would be the top of the stringer or stairs. Hopefully my question makes sense. Thank you!
I had the same question 🤔
It doesn't matter, use the cleanest part of the 2x6. He screwed up that part of the explanation. The top end of the stringer ends with a run not a rise. That first rise mark he made gets cut all way the way thru the board at that angle.
You wouldn't belive how many "pros" there are that don't know to cut the tread hight off the bottom of the stringer.
Anybody that has a set of stairs, probably to a basement, that the bottom step is taller than all the rest and the top one is shorter than all the rest, this is why.
Nice job!
Thanks
You have to get an accurate measure @ the landing. Otherwise your screwed .....
This helped me a lot, thank you. Also the way you run your saw is super chaotic 😂 but hey it gets the job done
In Michigan, it's code to have a minimum of a 3 ft landing in front of any access door. It's very awkward to use stairs in this configuration.
I appreciate your ingenuity, however, an inexpensive set of stair nuts to secure to your framing square really is a better option, in my opinion, having built over 50 sets of stairs, indoors and out.
Keep up your learning. Thanks for posting.
@Hello Neil how are you doing
My father never crossed his circular saw cuts at inside corners, just finished them carefully with one of his super sharp hand saws. I'm still walking on a front porch, six-riser design he cut back in the mid '50s. The nails failed, but wood lives on.
Not bad but the back round music was annoying
Agree. Especially when you gotta think. Background loops adds another thing the brain has to analyze again and again each nanosecond for threat, purpose, usefulness, how to store (long/short), etc., etc., etc. Background music/noise is tiresome, repetitive, annoying and unwelcome at best. Usually, aggravating.
Awesome, simple way to go over rise over run without making it sound like hard math like a lot of people. Just divide measured Hight by how many stair/their height. Account for extra thickness of whatever board will be on each step. Made it damn near dummy proof.
Yes tried to be as simple as possible. Hope it helps!!
As a professional carpenter and stair builder, the wood template is only going to be as accurate as your saw cuts and assembly. Any error is going to be transfered to the stringer and multiplied by the number of steps (typically 13.)
There's a reason why we typically use a framing square and stair gauges. Your stair-hack is nothing but an old carpenter trick and one who didn't happen to have the right tools on hand.
There's also a difference between rough, framing carpenters and finish carpenters. A rough carpenter would have no problem with such a template, whereas a finish carpenter might have some reservations.
Nice, I'm diy & did steps using measurements from another stringer, this is gold 4 me
Glad it helps
Thank you for sharing... You are a good teacher.. Warmest regards
Thanks for watching and hope it helps
I just got a 3 step stringer and used that as a pattern , but your way is much better when you have a little diff. in step high! Thanks
Hi Eric. When you put the jig on the first stringer, the riser edge of the jig was pulled down, away from the end of the stringer. How far was that and why? Thank you. 😁
I was looking for the answer to that myself
Super simple, definitely have added this to my tool belt!
Glad it helped
Excellent video definitely takes a lot of the fear out of building some steps. One question I had was he mentioned the run was 10” but how did you come up with that number?
Just to have a nice wide step and using 5/4 decking it worked out as a nice number as well.
10” is the standard run for stringers
Usually the run for a step is determined by multiplying the riser height by 2 and then subtract that total from the #25 or #24. Each step should have a 1" overhang (nose) extending past the riser.
I’ve used this method myself, makes it easier, just some friendly advice to add and mark all the hypotenuses to double check you didn’t have cumulative error…
You should mention that as a rule of thumb the (rise inches + run inches) should add up to 17 or 17 1/2 inches just like your example. Also, many times exterior stairs are limited to 6 inches rise for safety.
...for safety and old people's knees!
@@choimdachoim9491 I made 3 1/2" door steps for my 94 year old mother. Next it will have to be a ramp.
@@simpleman283 Lucky Mom. Good Son.
@@simpleman283 God bless you for taking care of your mother
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Helpful? It was fantastic. You really helped me. Thanks 😊
I learned in carpentry school to use a rafter/framing square. If you know how to use one properly, you can create stringers at any pitch of stairs. I learned how to determine the tread and riser length depending on the pitch. Nowadays everyone is looking for a shortcut.
Great job young man! Happy to see there's someone share a good trick to carpentry trade.
Hope it helps thanks for watching!!
I've been doing this lately on my previous decks. I enjoy it more than a square
How to build stairs without using math, while using math. Great concept.
Turn that background music off
I'm not a carpenter by any means, but over the years I've built probably a dozen sets of stairs. I almost always F up the first stringer, then get it. I really like this method. The trick is: Will I remember it whenever I need it? Hope so! Thanks!
Hope it helps thanks for watching!!
Great idea. I once used a square to do the lay out, what I didn't realize was the square measure marks from one side to the other didn't match, so my 'perfectly measured' treads were wonky, till I figured out the problem with my square. I am about to embark on another set of stairs. This will help me out, thanks.
Hope it helps. Thanks for watching!!
P. S. Great trick on making the steps. Very useful. Thank you.
@pearlhall3787 glad it was a help and thanks for watching!!
Anyone complaining clearly doesn't know what they're talking about. Good job
Started carpentry work when I was 16, I'm now 70. When you were marking out the tread and risers, it reminded me of one of my first days on the job. I was squaring up some 2x4's with my newly acquired speed square, and the foreman asked me, if I was going to mark them through, or cut them.
I always like to leave a very faint line, especially on wet lumber, so if someone else is cutting, they gotta play the guessing game.....
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That's the reason I was taught to use a nail until the saw man started complaining, then I started using a railroad spike.
The best system is the one that is the easiest for you . i'm terrible in math so i devised different ways of scribing over the years . one of the coolest stair building books for math dummies like myself was a book of tables with just about every conceivable run and rise combination .i remember where i bought it or even if it still exists .
i have to cut lots of stringers for work. Boss lays out the first one, then l take the first 2 cut outs and make a jig, it works as a saw guide for both angle cuts. With 4+ stringers, every cut will match up perfectly. Don't forget to treat those cuts before adding treads & they'll last a lifetime.
Nice job. What would have been nice to see is how those went together after you finished cutting them out.
Thnks for showing me tht nxt time I make one comes in handy
you should calculate your rise from where the first step will land, not from the sill against the house. other than that this video opened my eyes to a very good method
A framing square and brass stair gauges. As simple as it gets.
Mark the first stringer, then lay it on top of the second 2x12. Run 2 screws thru both 2x12s to keep them from shifting. Cut the top stringer remove it, the bottom stringer is then cut halfway thru so no need to mark and both are an exact match...
Thank you so much for just keeping it simple 🎉
Nice, I also use a gig to rin the saw up against, then finish with jigsaw!
Thanks for the way that you lay out your steps i went to Grenada do a step for my sister was the easiest thing 😊
Sweet glad it helped
…that help me a lot!!! Thanks
@alfredovillegas1646 glad it helped and thanks for watching!!
Nice job bro! Keep up the good work thank you for sharing and taking the chance with all the insecure know it alls out there! I don’t do it this way, but this works just fine I’m gonna try it next week, I love seeing another perspective. Blessings!
@@ryanbey4460 yes sir and thanks for watching!!
Best explained video so far that I've watched
Hope it helps thanks for watching!!
My deck collapsed..now I need stairs lol...obviously I'm not a pro but this makes me feel like I can do it without my house falling over lol..ty
1:00. When I measure the total rise, i like to level out to where the lowest tread will be. That eliminates the unevenness of the ground or even a wavy floor in an old place.
Yes I measured off of the door but if the ground is not level you have to off the measure ment where last tread is going to be or level like what your saying.
Serious question. How do you figure out where the lowest treat will be? In this case is it save to assume it would be between 37" and 47" out?
@symcardnel1741 how many steps times how much the run is.
So if your run is 10 and you have 5 steps then it will be off the landing 50 inches.
Good job Fella! I love the Kiss Method! Keep It Simple Stupid! Cheers!
In a fraction of the time to make a one time use template, anyone with an often forgotten framing square can do the same task. You can buy clamps for a framing square that turn it into a template, or use blue tape to mark your registration lines.
Great trick! Thanks for sharing it. We use jigs & templates for other tasks. Makes sense that they’d be helpful for stairs too.
Hope it helps thanks for watching!!
Music a little too loud.. but I l like the video
That's a great idea if u don't have a framing square with stair gauges. If u have a framing square save ur self the extra making a jig
Awesome video !
Simplicity is the key to the happiness.
That was amazingly simple! Thanks!
All thumbs and I did stairs outside. Great idea...thanks
Excellent video!
I always thought it was pretty easy making stair stringers, though I do it so rarely that I always have to relearn- just measure everything 4 times and take your time, remeasure and be sure- 2x12s are expensive! I do gotta say though- this is brilliant! Also- do your first stringer and use it as a Stencil for the others you need instead of doing this every time- you could end up with things being slightly off if you repeat the process and don't use the first one you cut as a reference.
I should add too- those pre-cut stringers SUCK. Seriously- cut them yourself, it's worth it every time.
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That sir is freaking awesome , thank you for the great tip and how to. Great explanation as well from beginning to the end 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hope it helps. Thanks for watching!!
Great video exactly what I was looking for!
@@tripledfarmsmaple glad to hear hope it helps with the process and thanks for watching!!
@@projectdiy873 I made the jig and traced my pattern. Hoping to cut it out tomorrow. I had bought stair gauges for my square and set it up. I noticed it’s a little tricky to see the measurement when setting them. I like your jig idea better so I’m using it. Very good explanation especially about taking the inch off! Thanks!
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I used this method also stair gauges for my framing square. Sometimes the stair gauges can loosen up
thank you very much sir You have explained a very good method and it is also easy.
Glad it was a help thanks for watching!!
Thanks. I Liked your method.
That's awesome brother! Thanks for sharing!
Hope it helps
I think you are right ✅ I have done concert layout for high rise and bridge work.