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ERIE STEAM SHOVEL RESCUE!

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  • Опубліковано 12 лют 2021
  • In this episode, we're rescuing an Erie Type-B steam shovel from its grave. Not only rescue, but we'll attempt to get the engines running, and drive it under its own power, in a single day.

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  • @Pyrotrainthing
    @Pyrotrainthing 3 роки тому +118

    Everyone wants to save Steam locomotives but not everyone wants to save Steam shovels, nice work!

    • @stephenroberts4895
      @stephenroberts4895 3 роки тому +9

      Steam shovels are unique machines.

    • @harrybobb6764
      @harrybobb6764 3 роки тому +7

      Everyone should recuscue everything steam operated

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 7 місяців тому

      That’s because of Thomas and Friends.

  • @dougscott9524
    @dougscott9524 11 місяців тому +2

    It should be entered in a old engine museum, great job of getting it going

  • @HitLeftistsWithHammers
    @HitLeftistsWithHammers 3 роки тому +3

    The wooden cabin is the icing on the cake

  • @twentypdrparrott694
    @twentypdrparrott694 3 роки тому +34

    In Nederland, Colorado there is a steam shovel that is up for sale. The history on that machine is that it was a maintenance shovel used in the construction of the Panama Canal. The very last survivor. This shovel was shipped up the west coast and then shipped to Nederland to work in a silver strip mine. Abandoned for years it was rescued by locals and driven out under compressed air.

    • @RustyRescues
      @RustyRescues  3 роки тому +9

      I've seen videos of that shovel. They're selling it? Link to more info?

  • @johnmartin720
    @johnmartin720 3 роки тому +13

    Great to see younger people saving a piece of history.I read mike mulligans steam shovel as a kid. Then had to buy the book for my grandson who's name is Mike mulligan.

  • @shaunolinger964
    @shaunolinger964 Рік тому +2

    I'm not 6 minutes into this one and already getting yelled at for waking my wife up laughing. The humor is awesome, and I love the camaraderie.

  • @joshuadavis6094
    @joshuadavis6094 2 роки тому +6

    I live in Erie pa and drive past the old bucyrus erie plant every day and it's cool to see the equipment that was made there 100 years ago... Good work guys

  • @quagmiredavis4117
    @quagmiredavis4117 3 роки тому +7

    Using old equipment to make even older equipment move ... love it . Great video

  • @scienceaddict77
    @scienceaddict77 3 роки тому +12

    That steam shovel cartoon brought back some deep seated memories - wow.

    • @erikrounds5847
      @erikrounds5847 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly what I came here to say lol ... my heart started beating faster when it came on!

  • @rrswitch48
    @rrswitch48 3 роки тому +11

    The Ball Engine Company was founded, by F. H. Ball and W. H. Nicholson, in Erie in 1883 to manufacture stationary industrial steam engines. Recognizing that the market for such engines was maturing it began manufacturing steam shovels in 1914. This diversification took place following a conversation between Ball’s vice president Fred McBrier and A.C. Vicary, a salesman for Thew Shovel. Vicary had some forward-thinking ideas about improving the design, manufacture and marketing of steam shovels, and Ball hired him and applied his ideas.
    Ball used the name of its hometown as the trade name for its shovel line, as did Thew with its Lorain machines. Ball initially produced only two models, the 1/2-yard model A and the 3/4-yard B. The thinking behind this was to minimize costs by simplifying and streamlining manufacturing and service through the use of standardized, mass-produced parts that were interchangeable between the two models.
    Oddly, the Erie B’s introduction predated that of the A by about a year. The A and B could both be mounted on crawlers or steel traction wheels, and the B was also available with railroad wheels. The B could be set up as a shovel with various combinations of booms and dipper sticks for general, overburden, railroad ditching, or open-trench excavation. It could also be outfitted as a crane or dragline, although it had limitations as a dragline due to the low line pull typical of steam excavators.
    The Erie A and B were aggressively promoted, and their design concepts proved so successful that Ball dominated the small-excavator market. Ball Engine spun off its stationary steam engine lines in 1920 and became Erie Steam Shovel in 1922. The Erie B was replaced in 1925 by the B-2 Dreadnaught, a 7/8-yard excavator that was intended to be a transitional machine into the internal combustion excavators that were rendering steam obsolete.
    Bucyrus of South Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had also achieved considerable success with steam excavators, but had only a small share of the market for small machines such as the Erie A and B. To rectify this, Bucyrus merged with Erie to form Bucyrus-Erie in 1927, following Erie’s reorganization the year before under a new board that included two members of the Bucyrus board of directors.
    All production of Bucyrus-Erie small excavators was consolidated into the Erie plant, which remained open until 1984, when it was closed and sold as part of Bucyrus-Erie’s restructuring into a manufacturer solely of surface mining machinery consequent to the recession of the early 1980s. Bucyrus-Erie was renamed Bucyrus International in 1996; in 2011, Bucyrus was acquired by Caterpillar and became Caterpillar Global Mining.
    Source: eriehistory.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-ball-engine-company.html

  • @bigbird9794
    @bigbird9794 3 роки тому +6

    Gentlemen, this was a great watch! This machine is a testament to American ingenuity from a time when the country was growing at great speed. The men that designed, built and ran those machines are smiling down for sure. I hope she is reassembled and put on display for all to see.

  • @tomthumb5445
    @tomthumb5445 3 роки тому +8

    My grand father ran steam shovels in the 30's and 40's, he lived till 2005.I love these vids.

  • @Frank-Thoresen
    @Frank-Thoresen 3 роки тому +38

    Now this is a real restoration project for you guys. Please make sure this restoration is well covered on this channel. This will build up this channel 👍

    • @baycitynick697
      @baycitynick697 3 роки тому +6

      Lots of work for us, but I'm sure Rusty Rescues will have his camera on.

  • @MikeD-ey3sx
    @MikeD-ey3sx 3 роки тому +1

    So awesome, thanks for sharing!!!👍👍

  • @cwarner218
    @cwarner218 3 роки тому +4

    Was great seeing you get the old machine running.

  • @SchnelleKat
    @SchnelleKat 3 роки тому +6

    Very cool! Glad it was Saved! There was a 1907 or 1902 Steam Crane-Shovel here in MI rescued a few months back & Had been found in a lake! sitting since the 1940s or so. It was taken out and now awaiting a FULL Restoration! I hope the same for Erie.

  • @remcovanvliet3018
    @remcovanvliet3018 3 роки тому +16

    Slap a fresh coat o' paint on 'er, she'll be alright for another hundred years! Crackin' job, fellas!
    Seriously though... It's damn near miraculous what you guys managed to achieve with a bit of heat, grease, persuasion and persiverence! Just looking at her, I didn't think she'd ever move again.

  • @martinwhite7876
    @martinwhite7876 9 місяців тому +1

    This is brilliant nice to see her rescued.

  • @quagmiredavis4117
    @quagmiredavis4117 3 роки тому +16

    Its always amazing how much help shows up when old iron is being Rescued Steam shovel-- old truck . Tractors etc ... old timers always
    Offer great advice and want to see it saved and see when restored .. my grandfather wants to see this running restored before he is buzzard food
    ( his own words ) he is watching this ... great video thanks

    • @butcharmstrong9645
      @butcharmstrong9645 3 роки тому +2

      it dont hurt that a camera is rolling either and gonna be on youtube lol

    • @RustyRescues
      @RustyRescues  3 роки тому +2

      Well I hope we can achieve that for him, it's going to take us a few years for sure. I've collected antique tractors since I was a kid, and always loved talking to the great generation that would tell me how they cut their teeth on them when they were boys. Most of my tractors are from the 20s, so that generation is now gone, sadly.

  • @owenrichardson1419
    @owenrichardson1419 3 роки тому +4

    Great to see, keep it going from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @Mike_129
    @Mike_129 3 роки тому +35

    Love, Love, how you are saving history, hats off to you bud for what you do, and for showing us the process...amazing Taylor..just amazing.

  • @evilbeetlekustomscreations4965
    @evilbeetlekustomscreations4965 3 роки тому +3

    Having grown up around a lot of old derelict long forgotten antiques this is one of the coolest videos I've ever seen on UA-cam

  • @krisdrinkwine6045
    @krisdrinkwine6045 3 роки тому +9

    I was going to comment on what a kick ass rescue this was, and give Jonathan W a shout out, but he beat me in the comments... Both of you folks do some great videos. I love to see our history saved in such ways. Thanks to all those who care enough to work that hard for history.

  • @tynyyn5344
    @tynyyn5344 3 роки тому +8

    I do wish UA-cam would highlight these types of vids more often. History, like you guys are exposing, is a long lost treat in America. What our forefathers must have been like to produce and run these types of machines. Real men, for sure. Hopefully you will take the time to do a complete restoration like Squatch253 does with his equipment. Would be great to see how every single nut and bolt is restored. Please keep filming this restoration, it sure is fun to watch. Much love from the Mid-west.

    • @FixitFrank
      @FixitFrank 3 роки тому

      Search for them. The more we search for good content, the faster the algorithm will catch up.

  • @dandannels8821
    @dandannels8821 3 роки тому +2

    THANKYOU for saving old Iron👍👍👍⚙️⚙️⚙️🛠🛠🛠⛓⛓⛓

  • @WHIKID1
    @WHIKID1 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video. Love seeing these old machines that shaped the country being dragged from the grave instead of rusting away to nothing.

  • @georgecarter838
    @georgecarter838 3 роки тому +12

    Good job guys! Always good to see a steam shovel (or locomotive) rescued and restored for preservation.

  • @25kmgb
    @25kmgb Рік тому +1

    I loved the intro. Many years of reading the story of Mike and Maryanne to our children!

  • @movingforward6099
    @movingforward6099 3 роки тому +36

    That antique coal was the good stuff. that was before they started adding ethanol to it.

  • @CXensation
    @CXensation 3 роки тому +6

    Freeing up rusty frozen track links ...
    Impressive job!
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @cratecruncher6687
    @cratecruncher6687 3 роки тому +7

    Subscribed! I like the way you folks tried to preserve the beast as much as possible. The confidence of making something this heavy move under it's own power after 60 years outside in the Northeast is the definition of audacity! I'm anxious to see where you go with this project.

  • @francoisfritz198
    @francoisfritz198 3 роки тому +4

    happy to see so much effort to save our common heritage. thanks and take care, regards from France.

  • @ElmwoodVillageEntertainment
    @ElmwoodVillageEntertainment 3 роки тому +1

    Wow!! Great job fellas!!!!!

  • @johnalexander4356
    @johnalexander4356 3 роки тому +5

    What a find! Great job guys for trying to save this old mechanical muscle!

  • @frankierutherford1888
    @frankierutherford1888 3 роки тому +3

    I absolutely loved watching this rescue. Well done men. 🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @TubeRadiosRule
    @TubeRadiosRule 3 роки тому +2

    I think that is one of the coolest things ever, taking a long-abandoned pile of rusty scrap (as a lot of people would see it as), and getting it moving again under its own power! :)

  • @myname295
    @myname295 3 роки тому +2

    Great work and thanks for sharing this adventure with us.
    Good luck and excited to see more.
    Cheers from Schuylklll County

  • @quintlance2807
    @quintlance2807 3 роки тому +2

    I love to see those old machines ressuractted, gotta love that old iron 🤟🤐😎

  • @mikeohandley6765
    @mikeohandley6765 3 роки тому +2

    Very cool. There is about a dozen old steam locomotives sitting on a siding rusting in Snoqualmie, WA. I'm an old mechanic. Every time I drive that way, I stop and walk among them and imagine what it would be like to take one into a big shed someplace, tear it down and begin restoring it. I can imagine that just restoring one would be a prohibitively expensive undertaking. Maybe that's why they all sit there rusting.

  • @MrMarkusmonkey
    @MrMarkusmonkey 3 роки тому +2

    Wow! Awesome project dudes!!

  • @cambo1200
    @cambo1200 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome rescue, thanks for sharing.

  • @galerae947
    @galerae947 3 роки тому +2

    This is one of the coolest videos I have ever seen. Thank you guys for your efforts.

  • @imdeplorable2241
    @imdeplorable2241 3 роки тому +4

    Very impressive. Congratulations to you all.
    Can't wait to see Part 2. And, 3, etc.

  • @jerryleejohnsonjr1377
    @jerryleejohnsonjr1377 3 роки тому +3

    I could watch this stuff all day, I love the old machines

  • @MrOilcountry
    @MrOilcountry 3 роки тому +61

    Blow out the tracks with the compressor and dump some diesel on them.

    • @kipside8954
      @kipside8954 3 роки тому +12

      Up coming videos will have that done. They were soaked later that day. Part 2 and 3 are still to come. I did hit the tracks with oil the week before this was filmed.

  • @bradleymorris8875
    @bradleymorris8875 3 роки тому +1

    The shower scene had me a little nervous. Excellent save gentleman. Fun to watch.

  • @retrorewindllc9363
    @retrorewindllc9363 3 роки тому +2

    Too cool! Ya know it takes muscle & might to get muscle & might going!!! Haha great job!

  • @neil6212
    @neil6212 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Y'all sure enough aren't afraid of work! I'm looking forward to more videos!

  • @ttuts9082
    @ttuts9082 3 роки тому +5

    Fred Dibnah would have loved this

  • @LuminousBlueVariable
    @LuminousBlueVariable 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for saving this priceless piece of history & for sharing it with all of us through this video!! Amazing! I wish I could find something like this!

  • @markwilson9760
    @markwilson9760 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely amazing. Love seeing it come back to life. Love to hang out with you guys doing this stuff

  • @chadmiller7460
    @chadmiller7460 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this! I love exploring and its users like u that show us new things not often seen at all. Keep it up guys!

  • @Bigf00tKEO
    @Bigf00tKEO 3 роки тому +2

    This machine totally reminded me of my kids toys. Thomas the Tank Engine. There was a crane by the name of Cranky. This was awesome! And gave me happy chills. Thx

  • @faerieSAALE
    @faerieSAALE 3 роки тому +2

    PLEASE tell us that this old sweetheart is going to be restored and made fully operational again - not as a workhorse - but as a living history for people to see and marvel over.

    • @RustyRescues
      @RustyRescues  3 роки тому

      It sure is, and it will be run publicly when finished :)

  • @petermorton31
    @petermorton31 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad to see some guys having a good time and bringing these old machines to life again, I always wondered about them.very cool thanks

  • @UncleBarn1
    @UncleBarn1 3 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed your video! Just love old rusty relics! Mine are hit and miss..

  • @jimtomassetti8928
    @jimtomassetti8928 Рік тому

    You guy's made fantastic vidio on Restoring This steam shovel... I am so fascinated with any thing to do with steam. Thank You for Sharing this. You definitely have a follower!!!

  • @lineshaftrestorations7903
    @lineshaftrestorations7903 3 роки тому +9

    One nice thing about vertical steam engines is that they tend to drain and aren't usually stuck bad when they are. Kudos on the recovery.

  • @fortnoxz71
    @fortnoxz71 3 роки тому +3

    dang! im so jealous! what a find!! so happy your restoring it!!

  • @paulcooper2897
    @paulcooper2897 3 роки тому +1

    Now that is a piece of history! Impressive! Thanks for sharing!

  • @boaterbil
    @boaterbil 3 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed this Thank You

  • @hitoortega1616
    @hitoortega1616 3 роки тому +3

    Guys are never give up excellent peoples!!!!!!!!!

  • @carlbecker3828
    @carlbecker3828 3 роки тому +2

    That's so cool to c a century old price of equipment not rusted thru to start with but auctally move on its own power wow great job

  • @mitchmay3867
    @mitchmay3867 3 роки тому +3

    As someone from Erie it’s awesome to see this

  • @charlesward8196
    @charlesward8196 9 місяців тому +2

    The burning coal fragrance just gives an air of the original experience.!

  • @JimNichols
    @JimNichols 3 роки тому +2

    Well come on guys 75+ year old track pins that have sat in the dirt unmoved for 50 years, you just know they need a fair amount of HP just to pivot. LOL You guys are the buffs that know these things and folks in the comment section telling you to do this or do that really? I been a mechanic for 45 years and my ways arent your ways but I dont rescue steam shovels for fun either. I think (which my opinion is useless) that you did a great job. Environmentally you could not have lubed the bottom pins of the track chains enough to matter anyway walking it back and forth was the best alternative you had! Thanks for the video and the ride along as you rescued this beast from the earthen grave she rested in! THANKS!
    Edit the track comment was in jest as a reply to one of the comments. :)

  • @iankemp2627
    @iankemp2627 3 роки тому +4

    #2440 = year 1924, week 40 OR year 1924, 40th unit produced that year, I would guess.

    • @RustyRescues
      @RustyRescues  3 роки тому +1

      This makes sense, thanks for commenting

  • @michaeljlins
    @michaeljlins 3 роки тому +5

    Great video and thanks for rescuing a great piece of history! Please share the back story on how you found a steam crane in the woods. I'm amazed it sat there all these years and was not rescued or scrapped.

    • @baycitynick697
      @baycitynick697 3 роки тому +2

      I'm sure we can figure out a way while protecting the former owners privacy. I can tell you that the credit for it surviving this long goes to Pat (in video) and his late brother for keeping it from the torch. Some of its newer cousins weren't so lucky here.

    • @michaeljlins
      @michaeljlins 3 роки тому +2

      @@baycitynick697 I look forward to hearing the story. Some of us only dream of finding these things in the woods or barn. Glad you guys are putting forth the time, energy, and expense to restore. Is there a local steam show where you plan on exhibiting when restored to operation? I recommend the book Erie Shovel Photo Archive by Donald Frantz www.amazon.com/Erie-Shovel-Photo-Archive/dp/1882256697 . The book has several pictures of type B in the crane configuration. No SN breakout in the book but lists the Type B manufactured from 1915 to 1924.

  • @73DiamondReo
    @73DiamondReo 3 роки тому +6

    awesome! Theres a couple Eries at Kinzers. one shovel and one with a clam if you ever need to check another one out in person.

    • @RustyRescues
      @RustyRescues  3 роки тому +1

      That's awesome and good to know, we'd love to find a shovel front for it, and would also be good do verify cable routing on a clam as that's our current intention.

  • @paulhayton3423
    @paulhayton3423 3 роки тому +2

    Great idea, great execution, you did great guys... well done.

  • @joshw9037
    @joshw9037 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video guys! I have to say it would have driven me crazy having all the leaves and debris up there in the way.

  • @TopHatGent
    @TopHatGent 3 роки тому +5

    That is awesome, i love seeing historic pieces saved

  • @fendert1384
    @fendert1384 3 роки тому +6

    Just subbed, can only imagine the work it took to run these 8 to 12 hrs a day
    back then

  • @ProLogic-dr9vv
    @ProLogic-dr9vv 3 роки тому +1

    It is so satisfying to see the steam shovel come to life and move under it's own power. HAPPY DAY.

  • @mrfarmall-vk4gw
    @mrfarmall-vk4gw 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty awsome, nice save and i cant wait to see it all fixed up and running!

  • @dale5303
    @dale5303 3 роки тому +2

    What a peice of history

  • @KeeperofTheMountain
    @KeeperofTheMountain 3 роки тому +2

    I simply must watch you restore this machine. Please make it a series.

  • @oldamericaniron5767
    @oldamericaniron5767 3 роки тому +5

    Dig out and drive out in one day, very ambitious goal, wish you luck.

  • @tttco
    @tttco 3 роки тому +3

    So great!!!!! Love this thank you for posting

  • @edwardsofin3593
    @edwardsofin3593 3 роки тому +1

    All the best... it don't get mo better than this cheers !

  • @LLImprovement
    @LLImprovement 3 роки тому +5

    amazing how you guys had a clue on what to do to get that thing to move.

  • @lilian2242
    @lilian2242 3 роки тому +14

    I can’t wait to see this thing restored to at least working condition

    • @lorenzo42p
      @lorenzo42p 3 роки тому +1

      it's already in working condition. they only parked it there over night, for 60 years. just put some air in it and drive it away. amazing to see

  • @vitalitimofejev6086
    @vitalitimofejev6086 Рік тому +1

    Cool old toy, good job guys!!!!!! 👌✌️🙏

  • @a.leemorrisjr.9255
    @a.leemorrisjr.9255 Рік тому

    Probably because they're not as visible or common as locomotives. Still always a joy to see an actual working old steam shovel!

  • @timothylangley6945
    @timothylangley6945 Рік тому

    Great work. Saving engineering history and steam related.

  • @greghelms4458
    @greghelms4458 3 роки тому +83

    So I’m guessing we’re all here because we read Mike Mulligan and Maryanne when we were little?

    • @tonybucca5667
      @tonybucca5667 3 роки тому +5

      I'm here because I'm a model railroader, modeling steam logging era. ua-cam.com/video/6QkeIhVVcRg/v-deo.html We re-did a caboose. You guys went over the top! Looking forward to progress videos!

    • @mattjmcguire00
      @mattjmcguire00 3 роки тому +8

      That was one of my favorite books as a little kid, right next to the giving tree. love the old steam stuff

    • @kapaul1584
      @kapaul1584 3 роки тому +2

      @@mattjmcguire00 This certainly does bring back childhood memories. Mike Mulligan was my favorite book as a child. I got it for my grand kids but it had no impact on them. I think you either like this stuff or you don't from a very young age.

    • @justadbeer
      @justadbeer 3 роки тому +2

      And here I thought I was the only old fart on here watching this! That was one of my favorites back in the early 60's. I still have it to this day

    • @kapaul1584
      @kapaul1584 3 роки тому +3

      @@justadbeer I don't know why I watch this stuff, but I do and I love it.

  • @rodneythurmanjr7100
    @rodneythurmanjr7100 3 роки тому +3

    Great job guys! On saving the old grand fathers iron.

  • @fia974
    @fia974 3 роки тому +3

    Wery wery nice warmest greetings from Sweden

  • @limmaanka
    @limmaanka 3 роки тому +2

    So cool!

  • @KrisDouglas
    @KrisDouglas 3 роки тому +6

    There's a fully restored one of these in the UK. Lovely machines.

    • @baycitynick697
      @baycitynick697 3 роки тому +1

      I've seen that machine on YT. I hope to make this one look & work that nice!

  • @joshuaolsen8844
    @joshuaolsen8844 3 роки тому +3

    I would love to see more of this digger!

  • @mateofleet3390
    @mateofleet3390 2 роки тому

    What a incredible machine. It shows how well these large machine hold up. Very little is required to keep to keep them rolling. Water and fire

  • @whotknots
    @whotknots 3 роки тому +1

    My maternal grandpa drove a steam shovel early in the 20th century.
    I have seen some old black and white photo's of him working a machine at excavating something to do with a railway.

  • @fryloc359
    @fryloc359 3 роки тому +9

    I was real happy and cheering for the old girl when she started moving "on her own". Looks like she ain't ready to die yet!

  • @CharlieTalmadge
    @CharlieTalmadge 3 роки тому +2

    Very cool.. I swear you said Forestport, NY.... I drive through Forestport weekly...or rather past it on 28.

    • @baycitynick697
      @baycitynick697 3 роки тому +1

      You heard correct, it was last used to drive piles for the bridge is Forestport, NY around 1959.

    • @CharlieTalmadge
      @CharlieTalmadge 3 роки тому +1

      @@baycitynick697 Interesting.. There were two bridges that were built around that timeframe in Forestport.. There is one on Woodhull road that was built in 1948 and there's one on Rt28 that was built in the 30s and reworked in 1967. Good stuff! I drove by where you guys yanked that Erie out today.. Did you see the old Thew up in BC, Canada? ua-cam.com/video/nrM_YuA1Rcg/v-deo.html

  • @chaostactics
    @chaostactics 3 роки тому +1

    Far and away the most obscure channel I've subscribed to. Would love to see this all the way through resto. Nice work!!

  • @LimonEllie
    @LimonEllie 3 роки тому +4

    I'm envious!
    BTW
    Great editing! Great sense of humour! 😅

  • @rudycarlson8245
    @rudycarlson8245 3 роки тому +4

    Looking forward to progress on the steam shovel just subscribed!

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo3642 3 роки тому +3

    Great to see a newer excavator helping rescue its ancestor!

  • @griseldaibarra9112
    @griseldaibarra9112 3 роки тому +4

    Just found your channel. Subbed. Nice shovel. Don't see them in this good of shape out in the wild. You guys are doing a great job. Have to watch and see where you go with this! You guys have all the luck. Found some antique coal. Doesn't get any better than that