How Have Warhammer Dwarfs Changed? | Building Warhammer Armies
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Warhammer has always had Dwarfs, and though they are as unyielding as the mountains they call home that doesn’t mean they haven’t changed and evolved over 40 years of history.
In this history I explore the origins of Warhammer Dwarfs and the additions, alterations, and eliminations that have made them into the army they are today.
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you've missed out the iron claw dwarfs
Jordan always felt like the super nice Warhammer player that one should not anger, else he takes out his 10.000 point Dwarf army.
"In sh-...brief" that was almost a grudgin'
I have 1 hour and half of train and know i know that at least 31 minutes of it will be well-spent. Thanks Jordan
Ditto here 😂
"The only good stunty is a dead stunty, and the only thing better n' a dead stunty is a dyin' stunty who tells yer where to find 'is mates."
-Morglum Necksnapper, on his favourite dwarf.
My SECOND favorite WFB race after the usually-ignored ... CHAOS DWARFS!
Total War did a fantastic job with their Chaos Dwarfs. It was great seeing them finally get some love by somebody
13:44 Worth noting that the dwarfs in McDeath are a pretty on-the-nose parody of the 1984-85 UK miner's strike, with their leader Arka Zargul being a reference to Arthur Scargill. This might also be the origin of the trope of Warhammer dwarfs having Yorkshire accents.
Also with the way WFRP 1e works mechanically, Dwarf slayers were an incredibly OP character career to play. Naked Dwarf Syndrome was a real headache for GMs. On a similar note, Hammerers were pretty undercosted in WFB3 for how good they were.
Yes the McDeath dwarfs were effectively on strike, barricaded into their mine and trying to defeat the orcs commanded by Ian 'McWrecker' McGregor. They were definitely looking to seize the means of production and overthrow the state which I guess makes McDeath Thatcher. Always liked it that the dwarfs could do the McDuff thing being not of woman born as they were, well, dwarfs.
My dwarfs are Welsh, but otherwise very much in the tradition of Zargul's lot.
My first encounter with Warhammer dwarfs was in White Dwarf 116, which included rules for dwarf mountaineers. This unit of dwarf scouts were represented by a single miniature - a dwarf in a bobble hat, armed with a blunderbuss and mounted on skis! They gained a bonus when skiing downhill and their unit could be equipped with the fearsome Yodel of Doom instead of a magical musical instrument.
favourite Dwarf sculpts (other then the fantastic Imperial Dwarf range) has to be Queen Helgar.
I loved the Gotrek and Felix metal minis.
I won't have a favourite dwarf sculpt until they make one of a diplomat handing back the bloody phoenix crown!
Why would they ever give it back? It was taken as fair recompense for a grudge!
...while it's attatched to a string on his finger.
Martha is totally into her Dwarf history. I’ve never seen a cat pay so much attention ! [15:00]
The maurauder miners are my favourite sculpt
What marauder miners? I don’t remember any.
Indeed young Jordan Sorcersson you are a true Dwarf friend.
SHORT!? That goes in the book, wazzok!
My favourite dwarf sculpt? The 3rd ed imperial dwarf crossbow with the padded coat right up to his nose. Shame I can't post images to YT comments
Love that mini! Also the dwarf treasure hunter from Mordheim - oh so many to choose though
I have a couple of the old norse dwarves and they remain amoungst my favourites in a pretty large mostly old metal dwarf army.
Bugman must be one of the most iconic dwarfs for me.
Also I'd love to hear your take on the High elves.
We all love Dwarfs! My first Warhammer mini ever was the magnificient Dragon Slayer (designed by Aly Morrison) from 1993. My father bought it for me as a gift, after he found a fantasy store near the place he worked.
Oh that scenic base as part of the packaging is a great idea.
Right?!
Yes please, more dwarf content :D
Also, my favorite Warhammer Dwarf is King Kazador. I feel like his personality and personal life story is like a microcosm of the Dwarfs' history as a people.
Excellent video, they were my first and favorite army in warhammer. Chaos Dwarfs next please
The The Flame Cannon and Ungrim Ironfist from the 1993 Dwarf army. Amazing models.
Those old war machine models are beautiful. Stuff like that what always had me interested in fantasy as a kid. Even if I couldn’t quite afford it back then 😅
Great video Jordan. Favourite Dwarfs - Got to love Gotrek, the (White) Dwarf in Heroquest, the Deathroller guy in Blood Bowl but also the little known, never officially released but designed by GW - DWARF FLASHER. Don’t know him? Give it a google, but maybe use the Privare Browsing mode.
Thank you for referring my articles as one of the sources in the video's notes Jordan, very much appreciated! I'm quite sure I referred to your videos in my latest article on Dwarf Slayers as well, what's better than a nice feedback loop like that? Although certainly I owe more to your great contributions in uncovering the history of Warhammer with all the superb interviews you've done, that's prime source material right there!
I've always loved Dwarfs, but up until recently my main passion was the Undead in their various forms, now with the ability to collect those beautiful old models the Dwarfs have become my main love and I've been lucky enough to collect a pretty formidable 4000pts force (6th ed points) of models mainly in good old honest metal. What a joy! I do still have more Undead as there's 3 Warhammer armies to collect for them all, but still. The Dwarfs just fit my character too well for me not to relate heavily with them, although my throng certainly doesn't have any newfangled beardling black powder weapons or Grungi forbid - steam engines! Or models sculpted after 2003. Only hand sculpted models preferrably cast in metal for the grumpy Rambling Longbeard. 😂
Another excellent vid. I’d completely forgotten that my brother collected dwarfs and had a metal gyrocopter. The rotor blades constantly fell off it. I’d love to watch a retrospective of their evil cousins as well and all the changes they went through
I would love to see you do a history of the Wood Elves, for the purely selfish reason that they have always been my favorite
I remember buying a blister pack of Dwarfs titled "the up the Wall Crew " they came with little Dwarf size urinals as yes they where official GW product 😁
World of Warcraft has made me a Dwarf patriot so I'm loving all the dwarf videos coming out now. This was lovely. But fan of the flasher dwarf. Buck wild concept.
Tolkien might well have wanted to contrast Dwarves with Elves, thus the similarity, but he was also a professor of English. English is a silly, silly language. As far as I understand it, he thought the practice of sticking to "Dwarfen" archaic and frustrating. US publishers of The Hobbit apparently kept "correcting" the professors use of the English language with "Dwarf", and received many a frustrated letter from Tolkien in response.
It befuddles me that the fantasy genre in general has seemingly "regressed" from using the much more linguistically pliable and sensible "Dwarven". Games Workshop titles like "Dwarfen holds", which you mentioned, make me want to bite my leg off.
Because it became a bit of a standing joke in some online communities like Bugman's Brewery
I could binge watch your videos all day! So much enthusiasm for the subject, great nostalgia trips and escapism for the viewers!
Fantastic video. Thanks very much. I’m in the process of building my old hammer/middle hammer army of my 13 year old dreams.
Good feels. 40k wolves and eldar for me (dawn of war kid), but all the same, awesome when finally see that old wish come together.
"But in sh.... brief" lol, good save Jordan
Great video Jordan. I have some chaotic space dwarfs but the models that were available for this faction now cost a fortune so I have used models from other mini manufatorers to create my force, including Ral Partha, Old School Miniatures, Die Hard Miniatures and CP minis. In terms of old world dwarves I have always loved the slayers, those crazy guys are packed full of character and interest. Keep up the good work!
My favourite dwarf sculpt is the 1986 version of Bugmans Dwarf Champion Jorj.
Great sculpt!
Fantastic! Perhaps my favourite Warhammer topic. 🙂
My favourite Citadel dwarf miniature would come from the misty days of pre-slotta.
Haldir Ironblade is a simple model, he wears a tunic and cloak, he carries a sword. But his lines are exquisite, and he reminds me irresistibly of the dwarf Fenodyree from Alan Garner's novel, "The Weirdstone of Brisingamen"
My second favourite is from the same era, Rantar One-Eye, a lady adventurer with a seriously kick-ass demeanour.
Honourable mentions go to Odan and Olaf from the Bryan Ansell boxed set, whose names are always switched around in the ad copy. They were the first I ever owned, my mum bought them for me, so they occupy a special place in my heart.
Jordan has a book of grudges and you open it and all the pages are blank
Possibly my favourite WHFB races, not played them first years but will do again I hope 😊
Many thanks chum 👏
Love the Dwarfs.
My favorite model is Sven Hasselfriesian from 2nd ed The Magnificent Sven.
PS did you not mention The White Dwarf?
No matter what the game, over the years I've always played a Dwarf where possible. Just love everything about how they're depicted in most media.
Great video - The bearded ones are fantastic & I love 'em. Tolkien gets a lot of credit but, as I'm sure many here know, he was pretty good at stealing stuff (oops - I mean 'drawing on') the old Norse poems especially the Voluspa. A couple verses, translated into English, below has some familiar names
Nyi and Nithi, | Northri and Suthri,
Austri and Vestri, | Althjof, Dvalin,
Nar and Nain, | Niping, Dain,
Bifur, Bofur, | Bombur, Nori,
An and Onar, | Óin, Mjothvitnir.
Vigg and Gandalf | Vindalf, Thorin,
Thror and Thrain | Thekk, Lit and Vit,
Nyr and Nyrath,-- | now have I told--
Regin and Rathsvith-- | the list aright.
Loved this vid. I've still got the 93 army book and a lot of the metal models of the time. Bugmans rangers was by far my favourite.
Great stuff man, I found a bunch of those Colin dixon dwarfs. I was going to sell them but I couldn't, their just too good.
I really really enjoyed watching this video. Hope you cover Chaos Dwarfs in the future.
The story and history of the mysterious and legendary White Dwarf would be a dear episode. ❤
Marauder Thunderers ❤️ Not sure why!
Haha, very amusing video! I have three of those figures from the 'Dwarf's King Court' set - no1, the king, no 3, the champion, & no 10, the gnome jester. Not sure how many people these days would recognise the name of the latter was a reference to the dimunitive Scottish comedian Ronnie Corbett...
Still my favourite warhammer race and army. More dwarf content please!
I just want Jordan to pet the kitty
Another great video from my favorite WH channel!
I think we'd all like more dwarf content especially their chaos cousins
Jordan friend of the dwarfs
Loving how the catto is giving you the good ol' "oh don't mind me sitting here, just... HEY WHY DO YOU NOT CARE FOR ME??!!!" and some silent treatment.
really looking forward to the next episode!
Great stuff, and presented with exactly the correct blend of enthusiasm and understanding of how large and silly the subject is.
Ah, I'm loving this. I own some stuff towards a Dwarf army I was going to try to get them completed before the books came out, but I got distracted by Wood Elves, Fimir and Battletech, so haven't even really been able to start them yet.
I even got some gnomes to act as maybe a halfling mercenary contingent.
I love all of your videos. A quick point of clarification:
Around 7:50ish you mention dwarfs loyal to the realms of men, or imperial dwarfs. Many people use imperial dwarfs like that (and I expect that this will be more prevalent with both the rerelease of the regiment of renown and your video), but imperial dwarfs are their own concept, relating to the dwarf empire, not the empire of man.
You are indeed correct, although the concept of "Imperial Dwarfs" seemed to have been dropped after 3rd edition with the huge development leap to 4th edition that more or less established the modern Warhammer Fantasy setting in place.
It's quite funny that the 3rd ed dwarfs that are most suitable for the modern usage of 'imperial dwarf' are the marauder ones which were sold as just dwarfs while the old imperial dwarfs don't have the empire look (and why would they of course). I often get the impression that gw don't know their dwarf history on this front themselves so it's no surprise if most players don't!
@@ClydeMillerWynant Indeed, didn't they just call the returning Marauder Dwarf Pikemen (or Spearmen?) "Imperial Dwarfs" in their Warhammer Community articles? As if it wasn't confusing enough already for anyone that's not an Oldhammer fanatic like some of us... :)
I very much like, that you bring this topic up. I was confused by that fact for a long time... So I was also surprised, that GW themselves called the Marauder Dwarf Spearmen all of a sudden Imperial Dwarfs (anyway I'll need to stock up on those).
Also isn't GW wrong with Prince Ulther's Dragon Company by stating "can be hired by Empire of Man armies, which is rooted in some of the older material from Warhammer Fantasy Battle, with Dwarf communities living and working in Imperial cities."? (I thought they were not originally hired by Empire of Man, but came from the conceptual Imperial Dwarfs with their own rich background story)
@@Ethnarches Yes they did and I find it grates though really I think we have to accept that they can change what they like and these changes have really happened quite some time ago. One thing that is perhaps worth bearing in mind with all this stuff is that when the old Citadel Perry Imperial Dwarfs were made the Empire hadn't really got it's style. The humans that Citadel were making as 'Men of the West'/Empire/Bretonnia mostly looked to be of the historical time period that Bretonnia ended up keeping and some of them had direct model equivalents in the Imperial Dwarfs range - not sure which came first, the dwarfs or the humans though I expect the latter. So some of the 'what fits as Empire (new usage 'Imperial') dwarfs' thing has its roots in the development of the Empire look itself as much as changes to the dwarfs.
I've always loved the Warhammer Dwarfs, and I've always kept Dwarfs: Stone and Steel close at hand, it's a brilliant sourcebook. I also always appreciated the extra effort they put into documenting Khazalid in their various sourcebooks, particularly funny since the language was meant to be much more secretive than the language of basically any other non-human race in the setting.
Favourite Khazalid word: Dongliz. "The parts of a Dwarf's body that are impossible for him to scratch".
About your final question, my favourite Dwarf, and one of the best characters of Warhammer is Gotrek, it would be amazing if you do a video of Gotrek and Felix saga! 😃
Would love to see more videos on dwarfs. Especially Chaos Dwarfs but anything on the other elements mentioned (wizard and female dwarfs would be appreciated too)
I don’t have a favourite dwarf sculpt but so many of them are incredible. I used to use the Daemon slayer mini for AD&D a long time ago (32 years ago or so). I have a fair range of older metal sculpts like the marauder ones and dwarf lords of legend boxed set though not the pre-slotta ones.
This is excellent stuff Jordan! However, Hashut is the true savior of the Dawi,, or the Dawi Zharr!!! My favorite of the dark lads is probably Drazhoath the Ashen on Cinderbreath. I always see that Tamurkhan book in the background,, would love a video on this stuff man!
18:45 A 'sap' is a covered trench typically dug by a besieging force in order to get closer to the enemy fortifications while under cover from fire (whether to place siege engines in a more advantageous position or for a better starting point to undermine the walls), and the soldiers who do this are known as 'sappers'. Indeed, soldiers of the Royal Engineers at OR-1 and OR-2 on the pay scales continue to hold the rank of Sapper (Spr.) rather than Private (Pte.) or other Regiment/Corps specific title.
First time watching your channel and I’ll definitely be back for more 👍🏻 I really enjoyed it ☺️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Finally my short boys!!!
Much appreciated Mr Sorcery
Love your videos. Each one is a treasure.
Thanks Jay
I’m still missing that Anvil of doom from my childhood, hopefully it’s in the made to order🤞 top notch video Jordan but it was a little short 👍🏻
@@AM-uw3gp Anvil of Doom was previewed last Sunday, should come up for pre-order this saturday!
@@NummiAFI I’m talking about the old metal one from the 90’s on wheels which looks way better in my opinion, the later one is coming up for preorder which yeah I’m probably gonna buy as well but I wish I could get the old one
15:24 - Sounds like an infallible and unbreakable-under-penalty-of-Book-of-Grudging promise to me!
Very enjoyable video as ever. A few bones to pick and grudges to bear as is only fitting:
It was great to see my old bolt thrower and bombard in the iconic war machines, but no Goblobber - Harrumph!
I love the 'Very Upset Berserker' who doubled up as the second coming of Juggo Joriksonn, but you really ought to have used the original one from The Magnificent Sven.
The change in what Imperial Dwarf means could have been noted.
I know you showed a lot of pictures of Perry Dwarfs, but you only actually mentioned the Perrys with regard to the Dwarf King's Court and the reworked Gyrocopter. Aly Morrison and Colin Dixon dwarfs are great too, but there's only one (pair of) candidate(s) for top spot for me.
Obviously I loved it regardless, but these things can't be allowed just to pass...
I fear this dive into dwarfs was a little short
My favorite dwarf is Ungrim, because what is "ungrim" if not just a dwarfy way to say "happy." The dwarf king is named "happy".
More Dwarfs! More Dwarfs! More Dwarfs! More Dwarfs! More Dwarfs! More Dwarfs!
Great video, when something is so ubiquitous you sometimes don't think about where it came from. Personally I've never really vibed with dwarfs/dwarves, maybe Votann will fix that (if they ever get more models...)
28:22 SHORT!?!
Gonna Watch Later!
Great vid - many thanks
Excellent video!
Great video! I've really enjoyed, please dig more into dwarf lore and The Old World, I never have enough! 😄
Really enjoying your videos. Keep up the great work - this is becoming one of my favourite channels. Thanks!
this cat is very nice
Very informative. I appreciate the attention to detail.
I always liked Helgar Longplaits! It’s great to see some Valaya in there with the Grimnir and the Grungni!
Great video!
Nice video, keep the dwarf vids comming!
Jordan. My dear friend. My brother in Christ. I pray to the Old Gods and the New that you are working hard on that Chaos Dwarfs video this very second. Otherwise you should be.
Great video mate!
Thanks mate, got to do the Dawi proud!
New here and love it😊
To be honest, back in the 90's, I wasn't a fan of most of the Dwarf range of mini's. Probably because I preferredthe style of the Rat-folk.(I know, put my name in the Book).
But what I *did* enjoy was the Dwarflords story in Warhammer Monthly, the (mis)adventure of those 3 was always great.
if you do the elves for another building warhammer armies video, one of the authors sighted the broken sword as an influence for warhammer's elves than just middle earth's elves (there's even an elven character named imric and also the familiar word "witch sight")
Fun vid Jordan, but I was actually hoping to see a video about how they've changed PHYSICALLY! You see, I'm very confused about what is happening these days in the Old World. Although Dwarfs tend to have short skinny legs in some of the WFRP illustrations ( or even long like the Dwarf Cannon Crew from 1984 at 24:04 ), their WFB counterparts were always extremely stocky with hardly any knees to speak of, much influenced by the David Gallagher illustrations from the 90s forward.
But then came the Duardin in Age of Sigmar, and all of a sudden they evolved KNEES! And were TALL. The Duardin character in Warhammer Quest Cursed City is easily taller than many Mordheim humans, and the half-naked Fyreslayers all look rangy to me with their longshanks!
So what is GW selling now for the Old World? I see they are recasting many olde metal kits, which means dwarfs who are incredibly short, with bodies barely a centimeter square. But some of the new characters appear extremely tall and thin to me in photos. How will new dwarfs rank up with the older ones if I were to start collecting again?
Still got most of the dwarf ranges,my favorite being the grudge of drong range,one of the first armies built and still have many figures to add.
Brilliant video!
Best dwarf? Josef Bugman - even as a youngling I knew beer was great! 😂🍺
Very good shout!
I have my hands more than full with AoS, but the thing that has been pulling me towards ToW more than anything is the Dwarf release. For me there is probably nothing more pure fantasy, pure nostalgia than Dwarfs. They hit the vibe so damn well for Warhammer.
I wonder if the Gnome Jester isxa reference to Ronnie Corbet?
I think that’s a good shout
Even though Tolkien himself admitted his error, I wonder how we can conclusively say that 'dwarfs' is the "correct" plural form. Usually, nouns with the same ending would follow the same paradigm as 'dwarves'.
roof -> rooves
hoof -> hooves
knife -> knives
wife -> wives and so on...
Maybe there's something fishy going on with the 'g/h' ending of the Old English 'dweorg' that missed the change compared to those other words. Or how there are tons of English words that do just fine without following that same rule. cliff -> cliffs, reef -> reefs.
Interestingly, Tolkien used the Old English plural form as the inspiration of his in-universe name for Moria's halls 'Dwarrowdelf'. From dweorgas -> dwarrows (the assumed Modern English form). Or 'dwarrowdam' for a female dwarf. He actually lamented not using the "back-formed" singular 'Dwarrow' in the stead of dwarf.
See "RING OF WORDS: TOLKIEN AND THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY.
by PETER GILLIVER" p. 107.
:S oh my, so confusing.
I just keep wondering what your cat is looking at. And thanks for clearing up the spelling! I'd always just assumed that Tolkien's was the standard and never looked it up for some reason... Since I'm thinking I'll be getting into The Old World, my first foray into Fantasy besides Vermintide, I'd really appreciate lore on the different holds and their looks. It's been hard to find much online.
Oooooo like #666, does that qualify as something to put in the book? 😅
By the way. If you ever have a hankerin’ to do some vids on Tolkein, I wouldn’t complain.
Gotrek is my go-to when it comes to dwarfs. Malakai M. is second, and Bugman third!
*indefatigable 👍