“People are designed to recognize patterns. It’s a generic tool that’s been passed down for generations such that we can survive IKEA.” That joke caught me so off guard I burst out laughing. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was scientific evidence backing this claim up XD
This video made me realize that a) realize who he is b) realize I’ve played more of his games than I thought c) made me start seeing his games EVERYWHERE and d) already bought three of them and am eyeing a bunch more. Thank you for doing this video (and podcast episode) highlighting his games!
Samurai is another of his tile laying games I highly recommend! It’s a rare pure area majority game with no point scoring. You’re trying to score the most of 3 types of statues. If you win 2/3 of these majorities you instantly win, but there’s a fun tie-breaker if there’s no clear winner where, like a proto-T&E, you add the sum total of the *other* statues that you did not win majorities in to decide who wins!
When the rules of Babylonia were explained I thought it had a lot of Samurai DNA, in that in Samurai you score a city when it is completely surrounded, and you compete for strength majorities surrounding that city so that you're the one who grabs the flavourful point token hat or buddha or rice bale.
Samurai is great and although I originally thought that Babylonia would be closest to that, the path building separates them enough that I happily own both.
Oh man. You sell Babylonia short. It’s quite possibly the very best of Knizia’s tile-layers. It’s damned magnificent and in no way a consolation prize for the others being hard to find.
Videos like this are why UA-cam needs the ability to like a video multiple times. The jokes, the reviews, the lightning round. All are amazing work from this duo!
Whilst all these games are certainly great, my favourite of the games left out is High Society, a very cheap and very tiny buy also very great auction game
Of course, in Modern Art you never want to end the round with a Double Auction, because that will prevent you from getting money for one or both of the paintings (as the 5th painting that ends the round is never auctioned; another delightful Knizia wrinkle).
Arg worlds collide! The My City intro music is from Playstation Access’ Friday Feature! Arg! The realities are bleeding through! Fantastic video as always - a designer that deserves a half hour coverage.
I wanted to know more about Babylonia for so long, I am happy you are reviewing it, components look great! Let's dive into the third part of the review now! :)
Also, DiceTree version of Ra was released in Korea few month ago and will be released internationally at Essen 2022. (The edition mentioned by Efka is 25th Century edtition with Ian O'Tooole art)
I'm exhausted just having watched that end credits lightning review, I hope that you had a good lie down and snuggle with Bessie after that Efka! It was a lot of fun seeing you cover several games from one designer like this. It would be interesting to see you do it for another designer one day but that all depends on if there's any other designer that elicits so much love for their work from you?
Great job - modern art is one of my favorites. My other two favorites are actually Medici (the original game) and high society is also a great short game of his that works great.
We loved My City so much at 3P that we will be buying it again and playing again. Once Delta has burned out. We just let everyone take as much time as they needed each turn though-not a problem at all.
Does anyone have a take on "Loot"? I got it, played a couple of times, and would have very happily played it the rest of the entire day. It was so simple, and so good. It doesn't ever get talked about, though.
Great video and gags, but it was the worst explanation of Babylonia that I've ever seen ;) - you totally forgot to include the tension that comes from scoring the previously acquired cities by all players as soon as the new city is scored so that you have incentive to have majority early AND to have long chains. AND you want the ziggurat special powers as early as possible as well. Obviously, I'm a fan. :)
@@NoPunIncluded To be honest, for several years (after playing the card game version), I thought it was Yoko Ono until I looked into it. She's multi-talented!
I've only just started watching this, but obviously though Reiner Knizia has designed x00 plus general games (really 700 now?) only so-many of them will be board or card games or indeed entirely unique products. The full total will include games within periodicals, mathy and puzzly dice games and plenty of his 're-takes' of out-of-print older games of course. I'd love to hear a ball-park figure for all the reasonably-defined 'original' games by him. Does anyone have one?
Great video, as always! What was the awful first version of Royal Visit? Times square? I know nothing about it, but damn my love for controversy! I MUST KNOW!
Stephensons Rocket is horrible to explain, and a little more dry than his other games (which sounds impossible, but I don't make the rules), but an absolute delight to play! So many shared incentive systems going on like in any good train game, and its quite fun to just crash trains into each other.
Efka you are my boardgame intellectual, none of it is modern art? It is, that's the definition, the new version is post modern if you will. It's not contemporary, I guess this is what you meant. I thought you of all may know this, now I'm sad 😢. No worries I still love you Efka :* great video nevertheless
Not trying to be pedantic, but anything following Edouard Manet (~1860s) is considered modern art, especially Impressionism and the other examples on the box.
@@NoPunIncluded nah peeps. I love you and I got the joke and this is a great video. Its just the lamest way possible to acknowledge the lcg video won't be coming out
I want to see a parallel universe where tetris doesn’t exist but my city does and see how people react to the use of the S piece and whether the lack of the opposite piece would really be a problem.
@@NoPunIncluded I rewatched it, and it was said that the round ends when five paintings are sold, but the example that immediately follows it implies the rules as I know them. Not a big deal, I was just wondering if I had maybe misread the rules.
@@barnibombosz1448 it's definitely a joke, and the podcast episode title is an extension of that joke, but there's more Knizia on the podcast if you like.
Hello from Russia. 00:50 "Kniaz" is not means knight. It's more closer to word duke. And depends from the independence of the person. Vladimir The Great was "Kniaz". 23:45 "Soviet zombie"? Don't you think that this joke is offensive?
Thanks for the correction, someone already noted it in the comments. As someone who was born and raised in the Soviet Union I feel perfectly entitled to make that joke, thanks.
I bought Modern Art the Cmon edition...The Card Game version. I am super bummed since I bought it from a local shop. It looks really really lame. With that being said, I just bought the original because f'it. I want it.
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Can we have a 30 minute video of Elaine throwing boardgame at Efka every 30 seconds and he has to review them
+1 I love that Elaine threw Efka a game he hadn’t played and wasn’t good for two players 🤣😂
Yes please and thank you.
I would pay good money to see this. Obviously I’d want to see him literally buried underneath games until he yields. It’s like board game gladiators.
best just campaign games. he wont be seen anymore after 2min xD
I think that would kill him but otherwise yes 🤩
"Just in case part 2 never comes out"
*cries for Arkham Horror: The Card Game Part 2*
i was just thinking that ... and by thinking i mean sobbing
"no part 2"
my day is ruined and my disappointment is immeasurable
I thought the same thing
yup, my thought also:(
What is there to cry about with the AH LCG? There's a 2nd edition coming, isn't there?
“People are designed to recognize patterns. It’s a generic tool that’s been passed down for generations such that we can survive IKEA.” That joke caught me so off guard I burst out laughing. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was scientific evidence backing this claim up XD
Thanks for this. Knizia is probably my favorite designer. And I have to say: the "lightning round" at the end was a hoot.
This video made me realize that a) realize who he is b) realize I’ve played more of his games than I thought c) made me start seeing his games EVERYWHERE and d) already bought three of them and am eyeing a bunch more. Thank you for doing this video (and podcast episode) highlighting his games!
I love my small-box German Oink Games version of Modern Art! It's a tiny box but they still managed to include an easel.
"In Pandemic years that makes it as old as chess." Excellent. I laughed. Then cried.
That moment when you realize that your most played cardgame "Battle Line: Medieval" is also from Reiner Knizia.
everyone's most played card game (or board game) should be from Knizia ;)
I love this channel so much! This, along with No Rolls Barred and Shut Up And Sit Down, is becoming one of my favorite board game channels!
Samurai is another of his tile laying games I highly recommend! It’s a rare pure area majority game with no point scoring. You’re trying to score the most of 3 types of statues. If you win 2/3 of these majorities you instantly win, but there’s a fun tie-breaker if there’s no clear winner where, like a proto-T&E, you add the sum total of the *other* statues that you did not win majorities in to decide who wins!
When the rules of Babylonia were explained I thought it had a lot of Samurai DNA, in that in Samurai you score a city when it is completely surrounded, and you compete for strength majorities surrounding that city so that you're the one who grabs the flavourful point token hat or buddha or rice bale.
Samurai is great and although I originally thought that Babylonia would be closest to that, the path building separates them enough that I happily own both.
Was the 697 going live any minute now a troll for those of us still waiting on the Arkham Horror LCG part 2?
Oh man. You sell Babylonia short. It’s quite possibly the very best of Knizia’s tile-layers. It’s damned magnificent and in no way a consolation prize for the others being hard to find.
There was one notable absence of a great RK game, and that is Samurai of course! One of my favourites, along with through the desert!
Especially when talking about Babylonia. It seems to take more from Samurai than the other two 'lines' of games
Samurai was one of my first intros to board games outside of the Monopoly Bullshit Zone and it's fantastic.
@@cold1ava Agreed, I haven't played a ton of Knizia games, but Samurai is among them and I really recognized that DNA in Babylonia.
Videos like this are why UA-cam needs the ability to like a video multiple times. The jokes, the reviews, the lightning round. All are amazing work from this duo!
Whilst all these games are certainly great, my favourite of the games left out is High Society, a very cheap and very tiny buy also very great auction game
That has to be the best intro to a video I've ever seen (and the rest was pretty good too).
Wow, I loved your humor, knowledge and pacing. Great video ^^
"What is art anyway? It is literally the opposite of money."
Bloody hell you make me laugh.
That you do really good boardgame videos is a pleasant little incidental.
Just when SUSD takes a week off, NPI steps in with a 36 minute video to pick up the slack 🎉
Of course, in Modern Art you never want to end the round with a Double Auction, because that will prevent you from getting money for one or both of the paintings (as the 5th painting that ends the round is never auctioned; another delightful Knizia wrinkle).
Arg worlds collide! The My City intro music is from Playstation Access’ Friday Feature! Arg! The realities are bleeding through!
Fantastic video as always - a designer that deserves a half hour coverage.
Love it, such chaotic fun. Some serious games though, I am a huge Tigris & Euphrates fan.
What we need is more lighting rounds for sure!
I wanted to know more about Babylonia for so long, I am happy you are reviewing it, components look great! Let's dive into the third part of the review now! :)
Knizia might be my favorite designer. Just so consistent in putting out games that are so much fun.
This intro is absolutely fantastic. Great video!
Props for the _Hudson Hawk_ scene. Oh, and the Babylonia predecessors should perhaps have included Samurai.
I'm so sad that I entered this hobby just as ZMAN games sunset the euro classics collection.
They'll be back ;)
@@papaspapbar2736 Ra is coming back with art by Ian O Toole. Fingers crossed for the rest of the set!
Damn! What a lightning round. That was amazing work haha
Samurai and through the desert are also two of my favorite games! When he hits, he really hits.
Nice John Gets Games shirt. Both this channel and JGG, are great for board game information.
Note that later printings of DiceTree version does not include the Korean arts. Those are sold separately now.
Also, DiceTree version of Ra was released in Korea few month ago and will be released internationally at Essen 2022. (The edition mentioned by Efka is 25th Century edtition with Ian O'Tooole art)
Us: Where is Arkham part 2, NPI? I NEED It to !
also us: already purchased every cycle, investigator deck and standalone, barkham included
Great video, I think I like all of these games? Have to give a shout out to High Society for essentially being a flawless game!
I think High Society is one of the best games ever made.
That intro though! Stellar work!
Taj Mahal was a popular game at our club before lockdown
He’s designed 700 PUBLISHED board games
great video, now do more of these :D
As soon as the Efka started opening the boxes is when the disaster started.
So when's the Arkham Horror LCG part II coming out?!
I'm exhausted just having watched that end credits lightning review, I hope that you had a good lie down and snuggle with Bessie after that Efka!
It was a lot of fun seeing you cover several games from one designer like this. It would be interesting to see you do it for another designer one day but that all depends on if there's any other designer that elicits so much love for their work from you?
Great job - modern art is one of my favorites. My other two favorites are actually Medici (the original game) and high society is also a great short game of his that works great.
We loved My City so much at 3P that we will be buying it again and playing again. Once Delta has burned out. We just let everyone take as much time as they needed each turn though-not a problem at all.
I have only played two of his games: Lost City and High Society. Fun games and wouldn't mind playing more, but I have a hard time seeking them out.
Are you ever going to finish the Arkham Horror Card Game review?
The neat part of that is that all those lightning round games can fuse together Century style and become a monster game. 🥷
I got 96 Knizia games now. Sadly I have not played them all yet. My favourite designer.
Efka's seductive head-nodding has me hypnotized, I've rewatched the opening at least 5 times now. am I the only one ?
Efka's face after that hunk joke... perfection.
My dad has tao copies of… neither of which are the two versions you have. I didnt realize there were so many versions.
what was royal visit's previous theme?
I a simple knizia fan.
I see knizia, i click "like"... hard...
thanks guys, we need more knizia-awarness around the world
Does anyone have a take on "Loot"? I got it, played a couple of times, and would have very happily played it the rest of the entire day. It was so simple, and so good. It doesn't ever get talked about, though.
Great video and gags, but it was the worst explanation of Babylonia that I've ever seen ;) - you totally forgot to include the tension that comes from scoring the previously acquired cities by all players as soon as the new city is scored so that you have incentive to have majority early AND to have long chains. AND you want the ziggurat special powers as early as possible as well. Obviously, I'm a fan. :)
Ok, someone should print a version of Modern Art where you are auctioning off different versions of Modern Art.
4:30 'Reiner Kinizia likes to make you feel stupid' lol
I've heard that the newest printing of Babylonia has better token holders? Can someone confirm?
Can confirm: Babylonia is printed.
I purchased a copy last year (December 2020), and the issue had been addressed already. They made the holders much thicker.
26:00 “place next to a cigarette”
I loved hearing your thoughts on Rainer Knizia's designs. This was so much fun. Thank you!
I thought the "Yoko" in the old Modern Art is just a name they invented, attached to a Roy Lichtenstein pastiche.
Ah, this is really bad on our part because one of us misremembered it being singed at the botton as Yoko Ono whereas that is evidently not the case.
@@NoPunIncluded To be honest, for several years (after playing the card game version), I thought it was Yoko Ono until I looked into it. She's multi-talented!
If you recognize the vintage SUSD reference in the opening shot, then you probably have crippling anxiety.
I've only just started watching this, but obviously though Reiner Knizia has designed x00 plus general games (really 700 now?) only so-many of them will be board or card games or indeed entirely unique products. The full total will include games within periodicals, mathy and puzzly dice games and plenty of his 're-takes' of out-of-print older games of course. I'd love to hear a ball-park figure for all the reasonably-defined 'original' games by him. Does anyone have one?
The end of the video was both excellent and stressful. My OCD was off the charts.
Great video, as always!
What was the awful first version of Royal Visit? Times square? I know nothing about it, but damn my love for controversy! I MUST KNOW!
What was the original theme of Royal Visit?
Modern art reminds of the Collector by Avalon Hill quite a bit.
As someone hailing from the south of Italy raised on olive oil, I was hurt by the comments about oil. Lol
Only at minute 4, and I'm loving this review. Modern Art: As old as chess. Find the fun in this tiny box.
What do you think of the Oink version of Modern Art?
It's a perfectly great version. I do love that it features art from a collective that promotes disabled artists.
@@NoPunIncluded That is really cool! Thank you for responding!
Thanks
Impressionism is modern art, modern art starts around 1864 and ends around 1970
He thinks it means art that is modern.
NPI+Knizia= Love
"Knyaz" is like "king, prince" in russian, not a knight! Knight is "рыцарь, ritzar".
:р
Oh poo you're right. My Russina is rusty.
@@NoPunIncluded its okey :)
Warm hello from Russia! You are my favorite board game video creators!
@@NoPunIncluded I think I told you the same on stream
selective memory is a funny thing.
His card games poison and circus flohcati are both great.
Stephensons Rocket is horrible to explain, and a little more dry than his other games (which sounds impossible, but I don't make the rules), but an absolute delight to play! So many shared incentive systems going on like in any good train game, and its quite fun to just crash trains into each other.
Happy birthday, Efka! I've never played a game by Reiner Knizia. I feel like a poor board game fan.
While I’m keying these words, Knizia invented 3 more games.
Nice shirt!
Efka you are my boardgame intellectual, none of it is modern art? It is, that's the definition, the new version is post modern if you will. It's not contemporary, I guess this is what you meant. I thought you of all may know this, now I'm sad 😢. No worries I still love you Efka :* great video nevertheless
“Knyaz” is not a knight in Russian, it’s more like “King” or “Prince”.
My most played Reiner Knizia game is Pickomino. 😳
Not trying to be pedantic, but anything following Edouard Manet (~1860s) is considered modern art, especially Impressionism and the other examples on the box.
I'm less inclined to believe the "part" card because its been over a year and we haven't seen the arkham horror lcg part 2
You're almost there... you almost got the joke!
@@NoPunIncluded nah peeps. I love you and I got the joke and this is a great video. Its just the lamest way possible to acknowledge the lcg video won't be coming out
Maybe the japanese stamp Modern Art is slightly out of budget, but the Oink Games Modern Art looks cute!
Should I play Yellow & Yangtze instead of Babylonia? These games are so similar...
I think it depends on what you prefer. Babylonia is faster and a touch more point-salady. Yellow & Yangtze is more methodical.
I want to see a parallel universe where tetris doesn’t exist but my city does and see how people react to the use of the S piece and whether the lack of the opposite piece would really be a problem.
Isn’t the rule in Modern Art that the round ends when the fifth painting of any artist is put out, and that it is not auctioned?
Yes. That's what the example implies.
@@NoPunIncluded I rewatched it, and it was said that the round ends when five paintings are sold, but the example that immediately follows it implies the rules as I know them. Not a big deal, I was just wondering if I had maybe misread the rules.
Good idea for a video :)
Sooo........Part 2 when?
www.nopunincluded.com/podcastarchives/episodexxiv
@@NoPunIncluded Oh wow, I thought the 700 game review was more of a joke. Although Reiner Knizia does make amazing games worthy of attention.
@@barnibombosz1448 it's definitely a joke, and the podcast episode title is an extension of that joke, but there's more Knizia on the podcast if you like.
I can't decide if Reiner Knizia or Klaus Teuber has a better name...
Какое замечательное, чистое произношение слова KNJAZZ.
Now I have serious suspicions about Effja's connections with Russia🤔
О чем говоришь? нет никаких связей.
@@NoPunIncluded прошу прощения, значит ошибся. Я всё ещё рефлексирую насчёт шутки про Перестройку в видео о нарративных играх)
more lightening rounds pls
The thing that bothers me about modern art is it makes people devalue modern art
Hello from Russia.
00:50 "Kniaz" is not means knight. It's more closer to word duke. And depends from the independence of the person. Vladimir The Great was "Kniaz".
23:45 "Soviet zombie"? Don't you think that this joke is offensive?
Thanks for the correction, someone already noted it in the comments. As someone who was born and raised in the Soviet Union I feel perfectly entitled to make that joke, thanks.
@@NoPunIncluded if it is okay to you call someone "zombie" for no reason and out of nowhere.... it is up to you.
Knyaz doesn't equal to a knight, it's more of a duke level title, quite a bit higher than a knight.
Князь means a prince not a knight.
Yeah, I learned the hard way after that video. Apparently, my memory of Russian (in which I USED to be fluent), is not as good as I thought it was.
@@NoPunIncluded Wow, a genuine response! Thank you!
Saucy Sue 👀👀
I bought Modern Art the Cmon edition...The Card Game version. I am super bummed since I bought it from a local shop. It looks really really lame. With that being said, I just bought the original because f'it. I want it.