(SPOILERS) How it Feels Playing Golden Wildfire | Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes
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Archibald/Lysanderoth - SungWon Cho/ProZD
Music:
Paths that Will Never Cross (Inferno)
Funny Footsteps
Between Heaven and Earth (Inferno)
Armoghoma Battle - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Plunging Falls - Super Mario 3D World
Hyrule Castle Courtyard - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Tac Challenge - Kirby Air Ride
Outro Music:
Buoy Base Galaxy (soft remix) - Super Mario Galaxy
• New Outro Music - Buoy...
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The book Shez should read: "Leaving Fodlan to live literally anywhere else is a viable option"
That's assuming Shez can find their way out of Fodlan... Without Arval guiding them they'd probably manage to stumble into Zahras on their way to the loo.
Three Houses Edelgard taking Claude's place at some point is something I can believe.
same😆
Agreed!
Claude being surprised that El doesn't actually require killing Rhea would have happened _after_ he himself decided to oppose the Church.
in three houses claude got byleth as church new leader
holds him back opposing the church
Didn't Edelgard only capture Rhea for each route besides crimson flower though?
Claude pissed Rhea off so hard, she wished she never spared the 10 Elites. Not even Edelgard achieved such feat.
More she questions if sparing their descendants was the right choice. The 10 Elites themselves were all killed in the closing years of the war, their various generations of sires (the war lasted like 90 years so the Elites had kids who had kids and so on by then) promised safety in exchange for surrender (as explained in one of the books in the Abyss Library).
In spite of having Jeritza and Lysithea (descendants of the Elites on her team).
Probably because Edelgard doesn't descent from the ten elites
@@moon4236 I meant the part of regretting and cursing your ancestors. Rhea was more heartbroken talking about Emperor Wilhelm when Edelgard did her attack on her.
@@kellyjohana516 that's because she and Wilhem got along and may have f*cked while the ten elites killed her entire family and used their bones as weapons lol. But I see where you are coming from.
That ProZD skit hits even better considering he is Holst's VA.
I think that was… *the point.*
He is???
@@LB-py9ig yes
WAIT WHAT WHAT WAIT WHAT
Claude: If we kill the archbishop it'll end the war.
Shez: How so?
Claude: Just trust me it will.
*One battle later*
Shez: Oh look at that. She's dead and the war hasn't ended. Who could have seen that coming?
Claude: It's fine. I had a back up plan for this outcome.
Shez: Fine let's hear it.
Claude: Well it's- *Roll credits*
Shez: That's how the game ends?! Who wrote this crap?!!
Me with all 3 Hope endings
Apparently it was because the game devs didnt want the game to think there would be a better ending without byleth 💀 which is so dumb since the endings are so half-baked
@@dork4202 That is the issue the story is held back because the dev trying so hard to make sure that Shez doesn't outshine Byleth
Closing officers academy so Shez can't spend as much time with Students and help students with an issue like Byleth
The game says that Shez is the protagonist but feels more like they are side characters
The whole Arval/Sothis plot is underwhelming and the game plot feels unfinished
@@MattRogan28 And yet when you recruit Byleth they go underutilised. They barely change anything or appear in cutscenes before the secret chapters and then get left behind until it's resolved.
Also I guess Sothis overslept for the rest of the game because you never hear from her again. You'd think she'd step in to force Byleth to defend themself while an out of control Shez was attacking them but apparently not.
@@Superluigi881 The fact Byleth has only two support conversations and that all unit have C-A rank on his support list
You would as expect Byleth a support conversations with 3 lords but nope guess not
I think Plot would had been better if they took out both Byleth and Shez and had Dimitri, Claude, and Edelgard be the main protagonists on their own routes
Meanwhile, Lucina is still trapped inside the picture frame calling for help
Even though she's calling for help Lucina is not in Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes it'll be cool if she was a DLC and she was cut during the development of Three Houses and it will suck if Anna was cut too
Do we even know how she found herself trapped in it ?
Honestly the moving around the map only to be pulled in a new direction is just so on point. Half the story is us having to stop what we're doing to help someone which if that didn't happen the story would have ended at chapter 10 or something.
Scarlet Blaze was the exact same.
@@wanderlustwarrior bruh, NO, might need to play AG next 😑
And thus started the story of three house's
@@michite7 Azure Gleam is something like the opposite, you don't have to move to save people but to kill (i played it)
And the boss fight is an insult to the very concept of fun
@@EredediIsildurI haven’t played that route yet because I have to do my new game plus on golden wildfire to get the last two paralouges I’m missing and that would be my second route to play but I’m guessing “kill every last one of them” is taken to a whole new meaning here?
Gotta love how no one even remotely tried to talk to Rhea besides claude in houses. Both Edelgard and Claude (hopes) was like nah and without the slightest warning bashed through the door to Garret Mach
My thoughts exactly…
Well Rhea isn't all that open minded to change, with her needing 5 years of imprisonment to see that she was to stubborn and should've been more willing to change.
That and the religious doctrine all but calls change a hearsay. It'll be like asking the Christian to stop Christianizing everything back in the middle ages. It not going to happen and now you got a crusade heading towards you to purify your hearsay.
Claude being Eddy in this parody is briljant, as this road is more a win for the black eagles then anyone else.
It’s more of a win for the Agarthans than anyone else if you kill Byleth 😂 their ancient enemies are dead, Fodlan is in chaos, and their main leaders are still alive…just like they wanted.
When I started Golden Wildfire, I genuinely thought Claude was competent and had good strategic thinking. By the end I was ready to ACTIVELY support Lorenz in replacing Claude as king.
Yeah that SHOULDNT HAPPEN
And to think Lorenz was a douchebag, at least his plans does end up in an entire continent in flames.
Three Houses Cast react to their Three Hopes counterparts
Edelgard: Wait, so I actually got both Thales and Rhea? This outcome is actually better than killing Dimitri just to get to Rhea and ... why does Kronya have a body-pillow of me?
Dimitri: I got to say, I'm actually in favour of this version of myself. Why I even managed to keep Rodrigue alive ... sort-of-ish.
Claude: What was I thinking? Wait, that's not me ... but what was the plan? Was there even a plan to begin with? I even committed a war-crime in the ensuing chaos of my plan and- oh, Holst is actually real.
“Oh, Holst is actually real.”
That was my reaction when I saw Holst in Three Hopes.
Houses Byleth: *Standing next to Jeralt's grave with eyes full of anger and tears* "What do you means we can stop time now?!! Since when?!!"
Hopes Byleth: "You're taking this quite hard... I never thought I was capable of such strong emotions. My condolences for your loss, but mercenaries live short lives, you should have been better prepared for- *Shez kills Jeralt* ... You can have my body Sothis I have nothing to live for..."
Also don't we have 100% confirmation that it is the real Monica this time?
@@BurningAzure Yes. In this timeline they prevent Kronya from making a skinsuit out on Monica.
I legit gasped when Claude revealed his plan with Randolph. I was like, bro… Claude. What are you doing man? Loved that all the characters immediately called Claude out on it. Nice to know that all the characters were on the same page about how messed up that was. Claude, my boy, my bro, you’re better than that.
Tbh when I noticed there were no defeat conditions, i knew that bastard was scheming something.
Extreme spoilers for the secret chapter
So Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude fight versions of themselves that are mostly similar to how they are but with one key difference each. Dimitri is more bloodthirsty and SUPER hates Edelgard, Edelgard is more inflexible and Claude is a trust based risktaker. They all reflect the *antagonist* versions of themselves in 3 houses. Claude due to his time at the academy learns about his fellow GD members and can trust them better and because of his shortened time at the academy this trust doesn't sink in and he goes full fire emblem wyvern king/general(like Travant/Michalis/Narcien) archetype and fodders his men. Given the context of fire emblem in general it's nice to see Claude actually play out some of the tropes of his archetype in a way that makes sense but I get the "Not my Claude!" Chants
I’m so happy with what Three Hopes did with the Golden Deer. Now finally, discussions about Claude can be just as toxic as discussions about Dimitri and Edelgard!!! /s
King Claude sends his regards!
Also surprised there wasn't a joke about Claude naming himself king lol.
While I think Claude feels bad about leaving Randolph, and that he should've trusted his group...remember that Cathrine is literally hyped up as being the baddest bitch possible, if they rushed in, someone else could've died as well. A risk? Yep, and regardless on if it was wrong, Claude didn't wanna risk it ruining his scheme. Exactly what Claude was apparently supposed to be like
Three Houses Edelgard was so pissed that Claude stole her plans she traveled to an entirely different timeline.
The “Claude can we talk scene” is so perfect. I literally had to pause the game and voice similar questions to myself
I know it would have been a lot more work, but I really wish you could be the deciding factor on whether Claude goes with the Empire or Kingdom. I find it so weird that in the Kingdom storyline, Claude works with Dimitri against the Empire, and in the Empire storyline, Claude works with Eddy against Dimitry. But in his own campaign, he always sides with the Empire.
I think that he is a realist, so it would be cool if your actions in the battles shift Claude from Empire or Kingdom. I really did not like that after fighting on the Bridge, we just retreat when Ferdinand appeared with reinforcements. I was on a NG+, I should have been allowed to go kick his ass to start a different storyline
Well Claude joined Dimitri because
1. Edelgard was no longer in control of the empire and never made the preposition.
2. Duke Aegir was the regent and he wanted to attack both Alliance and Kingdom territory.
3. TWSITD we’re on the Empire, and they wanted to spread caos.
4. Dimitri having the upper hand on his defense of Arianhood.
@@santiagogaviriasuarez7541 Im aware of the story reasons, but I'm saying thematically it does not work. My point is that in the Empire and Kingdom stories, Claude and the Alliance are the wildcards that can change the fortune of the war, so that should reflect in the Alliance story where your actions can shift them to either side.
Maybe make it harder to join the Kingdom, like you have to perform extremely well and defeat multiple commanders to make the Kingdom seem more attractive.
Honestly, i'm glad that it gave Claude the flaws he was supposed to have in the original game. Remeber, "he has a nice smile, but it doesn't reach his eyes" he's SUPPOSED to be cold and manipultive, but three houses never really showed that. he just...kind of helps you, with no real flaws. I'm glad Three hopes did this to him
Three Houses Claude bonded with his group a lot over the course of the game, so he grew to trust them. Meanwhile, Hopes is Claude without that. While I prefer Three Houses Claude, Hopes Claude has flaws and is honestly all the better for it
I mean, the fact that he's content to sit back and play the other factions off of each other until Byleth wakes up should have already indicated he was more than happy to tilt the situation to his benefit. It's not that the signs weren't there: people just didn't read into them too closely, because they liked him. Honestly, probably the most recurring theme in this fandom is that everyone has a bad habit of overlooking the negative qualities of their favorite lord.
He flat out using Byleth when he is down to gave him the book about Geralt. Sure he doesn't seem manipulative on the surface but he is a schemer willing to use people emotion to get what he wants
@O Reo not really. he's more of a idiot jokster in three houses, completely irreveleant compared to Dimitri or Eldegard
@@MasteringJohn seriously. The war probably could've ended years earlier if he just took a side.
As someone who finally beat the golden wildfire route this past saturday, I can still say Claude my favorite fire emblem character: yeah he's got flaws, but he and the rest of the Golden Deer are just way too lovable 💖
Fear the Deer 🦌
DEFINITELY FEAR THE DEER AFTER THIS GAME. Holy moly.
Golden Deer was the best route even in Three Houses. I don’t like what they did though maybe I’m just too partial to the way the characters are portrayed originally and how the story goes.
Fear the Deer. Lol, I consider the Deer to be a joke after this game. Can’t seem to get anything right.
It is so accurate how you just run all across the map back and worth like 50 times
Golden wildfire wasn’t my favorite path. Some elements just kinda seemed out of place for me. But, a solution has appeared. Three House’s Edelgard took over the Alliance while the three hopes’ Claude is tied up in a broom closet somewhere.
"why isn't everyone wanting to suckle Rhea's teet?" is what you sound like. Claude even said in 3 Houses that it might be better if Rhea didn't recover from her injuries, which in VW, she did not.
@@DarkAdonisVyers that wasn’t the part that seemed off. Stopping Rhea’s way ruling the land was expected. Making mistakes and learning to trust his allies make for great character development. Claude was always framed as a master tactician with knowledge of every possible outcome. And yet, Alymra was able to catch Claude off so bad that The Alliance just barely made it time to stop Alymra army. An army that size near the border would have set off several warning alarms long before The alliance stepped foot on Empire territory. Also, i could care less about Rhea. She brought on a lot of problems in the name of “peace”.
@@DarkAdonisVyers Oh come on. Claude attacking the Central Church isn't out of his character nor betrayal of his ideals. It's the fact that he does it because he believed every single word from Edelgard and thinks taking her out is the best option to stop the war, which really wasn't cause Dimitri and Edelgard had a better agenda than trying to fight for/against the Church. That was clown behavior at best.
@@kellyjohana516 Again, there is a real-life emperor who had to stop his fight against the Papacy for no other reason than the current Pope dying: ua-cam.com/video/ecKT_4q7Qls/v-deo.html so the war ending for such a reason isn't unheard of.
@@DarkAdonisVyers Perhaps, but that didn't happen in Three Hopes.
Edelgard: Gimme your clothes Claude!
Claude: Whoa there girl! We haven't reach th- UNHAND ME YOUR CRAZY EDGE LORD!
*He fights Edelgard back as she tries to steal his clothes, Until Shez walks in with Byleth.*
Claude: THIS IS A MISUNDERSTANDING SHEZ!
Shez: Jeeze if I know better, I would have come back later. Sorry to intrude on your secert love.
Byleth: Terrible sorry about this. Will take our leave.
*Both of them leave his rooms, while putting up a do not disturbed sign on his door.*
Claude: NOO! WAIT! TAKE M-
*Has his mouth shut by Edelgard's hands.*
Edelgard: You heard Shez and the Professor, now give me your clothes now or things will get worst for you.
Claude: .......... NEVER!
*Both ended making a huge racket in the night that both the Alliance and Empire Allies and General thought both of there leaders are getting it on, which sparks a massive love fest between two different factions.*
End.
This was the best one yet! Thanks for including the mad dash back and forth on the map lol. Great job!
Dude, they gave Claude character flaws and he made mistakes! :D
He’s a real character now, I’m so proud…
I know this is obvious sarcasm, but the 3H fandom is so bad that its entirely possible it could be a genuine comment.
@@daz1543 Wait, the fandom is bad?
Sorry if I sound rude. I haven't actually followed the fandom, so I don't know anything about it. It's just that this is like the first time I'm hearing about it.
The only thing I know about it, is that the fandom is divided on Edelgard's decisions and nothing more.
@@Stormraider821 "Divided" is putting it lightly, there are full on attacks against people who agree/disagree with her that extends to almost everything in Fodlan that can be tied back into the topic of the war. It used to be mostly Kingdom/Church fans vs Empire fans, with Claude mostly staying out of the conflict to the point of there being many memes of El and Dimitri/Rhea fighting while Claude watches on the sidelines (which I always thought was weird because he's also anti-empire in Houses). Unfortunately the new route in Hopes has dragged Claude and his fans into the fandom conflict and a lot of us aren't happy about that, especially when we get gaslit and told that GW is the "true" Claude and the one we knew and loved from the OG game was a "false" or "incomplete" one, and we aren't true fans if we don't appreciate how he was handled in this game. That's what I believe OP was mocking with his comment, the people who say Claude is only a good character in Hopes and not in Houses.
Byleth Influence kept Claude in Check
@@elpopman2055 In three houses Claude has been leader for like 3 more years, and had been in a war the entire time. He probably grew in that time (in addition to Byleth’s influence).
Claude reading those plans gives me Wile E. Coyote vibes.
2:41. Translation: I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IM DOING IM JUST LUCKY TO OF MADE IT THIS FAR WITHOUT DYING!!!
3:45 Shez: "I don't get paid enough to put with all of your BS!"
Byleth: first time?
It was part of Claude's plan to kill Randolph and Shahid. He was clearly envious of the other two's drama in the story last time plus the exclusive discounts that comes from WCC
I would really like to see some good DLC for this game, a crossover like they did in the first game. New maps, playable characters from the other games, good support conversations for said characters, and Tharja of course.
I mean it's Koei, so it's probably just a matter of time.
I wouldn't expect any crossover characters though.
nice ending!
Also, how it feels to recruit Byleth and Jeralt
[Crimson Flower]
Edelgard: time to cause chaos *unleashes a lightning storm* HAHAHA!
Byleth: oh no *rushes over*
Count what's his face: cut the bridge
Byleth: OH NO
later
Shez (Arval): revenge!
Jeritza: no *normal attack to strong attack chain to special explosion*
[Azure Gleam]
Dimitri: send in scouts to stop ambushes
Alois: dang it, kiddo help
Byleth: coming
Fleche has been defeated!
Alois/Byleth: DANG IT!
later
Shez (Arval): revenge!
Dimitri: welp, good thing most of us are lance units
Silvain, Ingrid, Rodrigue and Jeralt all beat up Shez
[Golden Wildfire]
Claude: haha, can't get me!
Byleth: why you little- *gets caught off by boulders* fuck
Fleche has been defeated!
Byleth: FUCK!
later
Shez (Arval): revenge!
Leonie: this is for hurting my master's kid!
Lorenz: haha, nice
[The Void]
Shez: sorry, truce?
Edelgard/Dimitri/Claude: sure, I guess
phantoms: hi
Shez and the 3 Hopes: No
Epimenidez: I'm Arval, but also not Arval *summons fake Shez and ally* fight!
Shez: I said *awakens* "NO!" *stab*
You could've just put in 1:17 to 1:33 and it would still be accurate.
Just going by costumes it was clear Claude was going to be more nefarious, and Edelgard more justified this game.
Edelgard isn't more justified. I think you mean she's more "toned down." Because her worst traits are seemingly removed to make her more palatable. Such as her former alliance with the Agarthans.
How is she more justified? Even without the siding with the agarthans she still those all the same things. Incites a war that hurts the people and actively seeks out to conquer and take over soverign countries.
@@hson4140
Yeah idk what OP is talking about. Edelgard was never justified. She just appears better in Hopes because A) they made Claude somehow worse LMAO and B) Edelgard doesn't ally with the Agarthans now.
............ WHAT???????
@@l.n.3372 there still there the only difference is edelgard wasn't forced to work with twisted in this one so her bad deads don't exist in hopes
I support Claude leaving Randolph, good plan , no casualties on your side ‘ worth it
This is super funny and the best video out of all of the three hopes videos you made.
Yeah not gonna lie... Claude was a great character and the Golden Deer house boasts some of the funnest people... This route left a bad taste in my mouth by the end of it. This was the first route I chose and it felt like... as you shown... It was Edelgard's route not Claude's... Very odd saying that...
Also Spoilers....
He tries to convince Dimitri killing Rhea is the right choice in Azure Gleam and only gives up on this at the very end... I think... He looks at Rhea... pauses in doubt... then looks back at Dimitri and joins the applause.
My feeling on Golden Wildfire will always be bitter at the end but sweet on the journey as I genuinely loved the characters. But Claude felt like the Antagonist instead of a Protagonist. Rhea in this route wasn't even built up as a villain nor did she synergize well as Claude's nemesis in any way. The whole thing felt completely impersonal making it more a kin to a cruel Witch Hunt then any meaning giving this route in my personal opinion the worst end goal enemy of all 7 paths in 3 Houses and 3 hopes.
Very few times will I ever actually consider this... but Claude despite his good intentions felt like THE BAD GUY in his own tale.
I think the main reason is that since Byleth wasn’t there, and things changed, Claude just looked at everything on the surface. I don’t mind it though since not all leaders make the right decisions, and Claude basically became exactly what Edelgard called him out on in Houses. Someone who can’t be a leader because he doesn’t know the history or how their system works. Granted Edelgard doesn’t either.
The thing is, Three Houses didn't really do anything with him. Remeber, "He has a nice smile, but it doesn't reach his eyes" Three Houses Claude...is just kind of there, and helps you out, with a bizaare" we all should be uinited" thing going on that is barely touched on. Three Hopes Claude actaully shows the flawed side of him, like Three houses did with Dimitri and Eldegard
@@stevenhedge2850 I do agree but out of all of the lords, he’s kinda the only one that actually looks deeper than the surface. It has nothing to do with being untrustworthy, but Claude found an answer by looking deeper. Now in Three Hopes he doesn’t have the time or resources to look deeper, and now he is using only what he knows best and that’s his schemes and his position.
I believe here we see an unseasoned Claude doing his best with what he is given.
In Three Houses, all the groundwork he puts here is already laid out for him. Dimitri is gone and the kingdom is basically in ruins, Adrestia has removed Rhea from the central church and the central church is no more; scattered. The Empire is the top power in all Fodlan. So to reach his goal, he only has to focus on the Empire to remake Fodlan as he sees fit.
As it's mentioned in one of the conversations, Claude only sides with the Empire to help further his goal of breaking away or eventually curshing them to remake the world. But here he has all sides to consider, the Empire trying to crush Rhea and the church, attacking both the Kingdom and Alliance. Dimitri is alive and well leading the kingdom and harboring Rhea and the others.
As a master schemer, it always seemed like Claude wanted the Kingdom and Empire to do the dirty work and he just comes in and swoops everyone and everything. But unable to accomplish this, he makes practical decisions that do question his morality, like letting Randolph die, but we can look at him practically too. He isn't from Fodlan and doesn't understand the world the others live in. So to him, instead of just accepting things for what they are, he ultimately tries to shape the world around him knowing it would be a one size fits all situation, hopefully. And maybe it wouldn't be so bad to start over but it kind of backfires when even Edlegard herself says they should just remove Rhea and not kill her.
I suppose to Claude, the world is a chess board and you play the game well or you lose.
Nah check the Zahras Chapters in Azure Gleam. Claude tells Dimitri his plan to take out Rhea but says he has no beef with Faerghus
The Church being taken out is a good thing within the context of the story which is why Rhea gets killed in 2/3 routes
Claude's decisions may be worse but they actually make sense why and he pays the consequences for them if you don't recruit Byleth so I wouldn't say it is quite so bad. I had more fun with it then in my current AG playthrough.
Foolish move cuz now El is gonna get canceled for black face
Don't fully know who this Shahid is, but he sounds just like Raditz.
2:05 Tbf, Nader did say that Khalid (Claude) was the Almyran King’s favorite child.
Claude: Lucina, help :(
All I could think when I played this route was “Claude… my man… my homie… quit being an idiot…” because this was character assassination. He’s built up to be a schemer yet all of his plans in this game are like Swiss cheese.
Yeah Claude went a bit more morally questionnable here. XD
He was _supposed_ to be. Better than SS copypasta with a walking dead king at the time with no build up.
@@DarkAdonisVyers
Nemesis should’ve been the final boss of SS with Rhea as the main lord, IMO.
@@jonathanjuarez5544 Same here.
Nah, I could work with morally questionable. They did something worse, they made him *dumb*
@@daz1543 Just because it threatened _your_ interests. Next, you'll be saying that it was "dumb" for Sun Quan to help Cao Cao kill Guan Yu? Don't know what that is? 3 Houses was made in part by Koei, which made Dynasty Warriors. Go learn. Battle of Fan Castle.
I feel like the biggest problem with Golden Wildfire is that we don't really see Rhea being an antagonist that much. I think it totally makes sense that Claude wants to get rid of her- she keeps Fodlan isolationist, she imposes religious absolutism, and her existence perpetuates the war. But except the last one, we never really see that like we do in Three Houses. Unless you already hated Rhea, it's hard to really get on board with Claude's goal.
Rhea shows a decent amount of honor in this route, fighting in the Talitean Plains instead of burning Fhirdiad like in Crimson Flower. She also shows genuine care for Cyril, an outsider that nonetheless treasured his place in Fodlan, which might have given Claude pause (is there unique dialog if you send Claude against him? I didn't do that). Maybe they were going for a savvy, calculating political genius Claude, which they succeeded at, but I'd still like to feel better about killing a final boss. (I do really like the political game where Dimitri abandons her to fight the empire in the west, a clever bit of statecraft that let Dimitri keep his honor intact while achieving the same goal as handing her over.)
It gets even worse because all the supports and base dialogue in Azure Gleam basically disprove all the claims against Rhea like being isolationist and authoritarian, so it almost feels like they're *trying* to make Claude look bad.
Claude says nothing to Cyril, doesn't react to his presence, and doesn't seem to give even a single fuck about his beliefs or even his existence. It doesn't matter much anyway, since their support in Three Houses shows that Claude does not understand Cyril at all.
It's not a good look is it?
@@hjt091 Well that's not entirely true, by the end of his B support with Cyril in Houses he acknowledges what he says about the church and Rhea and concludes that they're not his enemy and that Rhea genuinely wants to help people. Because of this I always felt like that final scene between them should have been included in the main story of Verdant Wind rather than being an optional support on a character that, unfortunately, a lot of the fanbase doesn't recruit.
It's subtle, but Claude is, by far, the most classist and out-of-touch of the three lords. Oh, he's not actively malicious, but he does not care about the peasantry very much, or possibly even at all. Demonstrated here even, with how he dismisses Ignatz and Raphael when he fights them.
@@hjt091 This is an outright lie. He even talks to Leonie about it in Hopes about how much he cares about the peasantry and that their issues are more important than the war and that the reason that things don't get addressed is because their issues never reach his ears so he's going to need her to help inform him of what's going on with the common people
I completely get the Edelgard wearing a Claude suit thing, but why does it stem from three hopes Edelgard saying that removing Rhea from influence would be enough? Isn't that something three houses Edelgard also says, or at least considers.
Exactly. Edelgard’s preferred answer of what to do if Rhea surrenders is “Strip her of her power”.
In all routes but CF Rhea is a non-factor in the war, because Dimitri went insane, Cornelia is the representative of imperial rule, and Claude sees the writing on the wall. She has burned too many bridges for Rhea's removal to work, in her mind.
@@hilgigas09 isnt it because in all routes you find rhea in the prison of Embarr, meaning she alreafy stripped Rhea of all power she could have had
@@muchluck7981 Rhea's gone and nothing changed, everyone still fights because Rhea was not the problem.
@@hilgigas09 She may not be the problem but she was not the solution as well
i sometimes feel like the only person that genuinely liked golden wildfire lmao
You aren't: I like them too
You are not alone, this route actually made Claude my favorite lord
Playing it now and I think I love our beautiful scheming asshole even more now. I always wondered what a more closed off, serious, cunning Claude would be like and I'm happy to see this version of him. It really gives the whole "his smile doesn't reach his eyes" line from the first game a bit more context.
Despite the pacing issues I liked it too. Claude is great in it lol.
Best Route to me honestly.
People defending Golden Wildfire be like: Yasss Claude, you have flaws now. I love a murderer with flaws; having a conscious is for one dimensional characters
You know I was expecting you to have Claude mention well we could have talked about the fact that I'm an Alymran Prince if the Ashen Demon hadn't killed Judith.
Also the running around the map thing is spot on I was like "How are we gaining any ground in this war?"
That was a unironicaly a better plot twist than anything in Hollywood movies.
Claude is basically a Chosen of Tzeentch in this route.
........
Just imagine if Fodlan had the Chaos Gods from Warhammer in it.
Bruh me literally dying at the end
Its crazy how Claude in three hope is like Dutch in RDR2
He have a plan, you just need to put some god damn faith
*The player saves Randolph
"I had... a goddamn... PLAN"
Wait hilda should be the shortest one
The music from Lampshade of No Real Significance is so nostalgic
the fact holst’s va is prozd-
They truly did him and everyone else dirty in this route. Shame because Golden Deer best house.
Why was Lucina in the background of a couple shots?
it is a reference to luigi mansion 1 in luigi must rescue mario who is trapped in a box
Okay but 2 things Edelgard never wanted to kill Rhea; Claude wanted to eliminate Rhea in three houses and would do it if he Rhea wasn't a fangirl of Byleth
No, he wanted to know what Rena was hiding once he got that he didn't mind her
Nop he let her be because Byleth would be the next archbishop, there is a conversation that you get sup points with Claude if you tell him that Fodlan would be better without Rhea
@@santiagogaviriasuarez7541 that's what i meant about wanting to eliminate Rhea and i may have wrongly worded letting her live because he knew she will be next Archbishop but Rhea worded as Byleth's fangirl in imo funnier
I have and important question. WHERE IS BYLETH?!?!?!?!
That makes more sense than it should.
That ProZD skit caught me off guard lol
God Damn Claud and his constant scheming.
4:02, I think Holdo from the Last Jedi should try reading that. She died specifically because she didn't grasp such a basic concept.
Probably should point out... There was basically no avoiding war with Faerghus.
Yes, the goal of the Federation is to take out the Church. The Church, of whom is currently under Faerghus's protection. In other words, they literally can't attack the church without war against the Kingdom. However, unlike the Empire that sought to conquer and unify, the Federation only wanted Rhea gone and would pull out soon as it was done. Doing so would leave the Kingdom standing, and takes away the very thing that legitimizes Edelgard's war, making it difficult for her to continue to conquer due to internal political pressure, and also retaining the Kingdom's independence: If she wants to turn on them, it would both be difficult, and Claude would have far more leverage in negotiation.
Claude himself even points out: They could just help them conquer, but they'd get the short end of the stick in negotiating the land, and Edelgard would just attempt to vassalize them anyways.
2:51 is funnier when u realize that ProZD is actually Holst’s voice actor
This is way too funny than I expected
I'm in affected by Randolph's death. He sucks.
I'm actually glad he did this. It allowed Claude to "kill every last of them" and get the Thunderbrand
I know people dislike this route quite a bit, but I enjoyed it. Sure the plot could’ve been more coherent and the almyra thing expanded upon, but it was good imo
One small correction. It’s not “Edelgard may attack us next;” it’s “Edelgard will attack us next.”
3:46 Shez: STOP READING THIS STUPID BOOK ALREADY CLAUDE
Claude: Ouch...
Edelgard: I don't even know if peace is an option anymore...
Dimitri: I don't even know about wealthy work and life balance anymore...
And a lot of people say Edelgard and Dimitri were bad. At least their routes didn’t end with Fodlan in flames. I’m beginning to see why Edelgard, Lorenz and Ingrid never trusted at all, not because of his background, but because of his plans that will end up leaving Fodlan in a worse state than ever. He’s just like Team RWBY when their stupid and selfish actions led to the Destruction of Atlas as well as the refugees of both Atlas and Mantle being trapped in a desert wasteland with little food and shelter.
Shez speaking facts
I appreciate how jacked you made Claude cuz most depict Dimitri to be the buff one of the three main lords, when Claude is actually buff but he hides it with the shoulder pads.
This reminds me of a convo I had with a friend, i was like, so lemme get this straight, dimi lost his eye edlegards still smol. But. Claude shrunk and gained a bit of weight. I thought he got chunky during ts
It's the outfit with the gigot sleeves or the Almyran tradition of having a huge feast after every successful battle 🍗 Maybe even both
@@splatdice probably both lol
People say that three hopes Claude is so out of character, but to me it shows how much in character it is for him, in three houses when he has byleth as his professor he basically has the church’s backing to make his dream to open fodlan up to the rest of the world, but in three hopes due to never meeting byleth he basically has to brute force his way into making his dream become real, and since he doesn’t have the church’s backing he would have to deal with Rhea/Seiros in the future cause she literally wants fodlan to be isolated. I will admit during the peaceful time at the officers academy Rhea’s rule of the church is a necessary evil, but when the war starts that evil is no longer necessary and I feel like she should step down, but she is to stubborn that she won’t( the only reason she does in three houses Silver snow, Verdant wind, and Azure moon routes is because byleth is there and she’s weak/dying from being captured/wounded)
@O Reo I mean, yes and no. Claude only seems to side with the Kingdom or the Church only because Byleth is there. I mean, in SS, Claude's letter to Byleth literally goes that he doesn't even know why, but he feels he can trust Byleth. Even AM, Claude was only confident in placing trust in Dimitri only because Byleth was there.
Consider CF when Byleth sides with the Empire. If Claude really would be one to rather side with the Kingdom or Church, he'd have still joined them there. Yet instead, Claude ensures that the Alliance doesn't completely side with either nation, but makes a stage ready to give the Alliance up to Edelgard if she comes and he were to lose.
Even in SB, Claude only decides to betray the Empire and break their pact because Byleth is the one to convince him. And STILL, Claude chooses not to side with the Kingdom or Church but instead declares war on all of them.
@O Reo That time the empire was also working with TWSITD also it was Edelgard who went to talk with Claude in 3 hopes
@O Reo Same character. Different circumstances. Sometimes, Wu aligns with Shu. Sometimes, it aligns with Wei. Maybe the "benevolent lord" shouldn't freak out when people don't see "benevolence" as a defining selling point?
Wait, Claude acts like THAT in this game?
...Okay, Blue Lions it is. :(
Its a struggle when your the no.1 hero. We literally sheez Shez out
How did Lucina get in that portait
Why is there just a Lucina picture saying Help under it?
I used to trash on Crimson Flower for its poor writing, but somehow Koei managed to make a route so much worse it makes CF look better by comparison. So congratulations I guess
"how dare the wildcard do something wild" is what you sound like. "I'm only comfortable in war stories where the cobbled resistance stands united against the evil empire" is also what you sound like.
@@DarkAdonisVyers Not sure how a comment criticing the writing has anything to do with those two weird statements. But cope I guess
1:15 Ah, I never really noticed how much of a errand army you're being during GW
Claude playing realpolitik the story line, focusing entirely on power politics and ensuring he and Leicester are in the strongest position to do what needs to be done.
Golden Wildfire, let's just randomly bumble about with no real aim in mind, and then eh, screw it join up with the Empire, because Claude deep down is a foreigner that is somehow allowed to become Alliance leader and wants to subvert and weaken Fhodlan.
Claude's goal is to keep Leicester independent, make peace with the Empire, unify it and take down Rhea. Goals achieved for him.
His side-mission is to keep Faerghus intact so the balance of power doesn't slide too far in the Empire's favor
Why do you make it seem like becoming the Alliance Leader is unknown? He's the only heir left of the last Alliance leader. It's not complicated
Contrary to the discourse of his path and his character, I happened to love what they did with Claude in this game. He's ALWAYS had these traits below the surface, but the circumstances in 3 Houses really didn't serve him well to show those traits. Edelgard also being more willing to form a pact with the Alliance in this game compared to 3 Houses also helped. Claude was never the biggest fan of Rhea and he lets that be known even in 3 Houses. In fact, a dialogue choice post reunion chapter gives Byleth the option to say "So is Rhea dead better for Fodlan?" or something along those lines. Claude gets support points up for that.
Poor Lucina. But yeah, it was hard to like Claude by the end of GW.
Should've been an option to break through the gates and take out Catherine as Shez like taking out Byleth to get the other ending
Disobey an order, if you will
3:45 Wait dr Seuss wrote something that wasnt a picture book for children?:D
im probably spoiling myself but fuck it after the shitshow with Randolph i took a break
ok so is Claude the version of Dutch everyone say he is( you know the "he was always this way" bullshit people say) becose he doesn't say his fucking plan i mean Dutch became insane after the shitshow in Saint-Denis but here what's Claude excuse (yes i saw the ending and it make a lot more sence), also is Claude using luck to win his battle i thought he was the guy who uses his head more then anyone and so far what i've seen is him using luck more then anything
> what's Claude's excuse
He killed his own brother
@@moon4236 OH COME ON it didn't seem to have affected him that much
@@aprentice234567 he's still affected by it in his paralogue that happens 6+ months after that. He's just good at hiding this stuff.
See. I get the RDR reference, but careful. People tend to freak out when you use external references.
@@DarkAdonisVyers yeah i notice that with the freakshows from the Action Taimanin community
1:11 2:44 3:12 Poor Shez 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Claude has always felt out of place in the game. I get that's the whole point of his character, to have an outside perspective. I get he's supposed to be a schemer who shouldn't be trusted but it feels like they really twisted who he was in the first place. The fact that he doesn't even trust Hilda with his plans is pretty weird. Hilda has been shown to be his closest ally even just durning the academy phase so why wouldn't he trust her in three hopes? I get his reasoning for some of his ideas but his plans in three hopes just make absolutely no sense.
I felt like he was supposed to be the schemer who nobody trusted at first till you meet him which is why I didn't like Three Hopes Claude that much.
Edelgard basically pre-empted what Claude intended from the beginning: to dethrone the Church, and unify Fodlan by sword. Three Hopes just makes more explicit what Three Houses already hinted at.
Lucina?? 1:34
This route plot felt like an all bad joke to me
I really do like what they did with Claude's character in this game. He's able to really express his own character flaws that he always had, but people mistakenly think that he's flawless in 3H and did nothing wrong. People are angry that Claude would side with the Empire and think that he never should, but why is that when Claude also opposes the Central Church? He admitted in 3H that he'd be glad if Rhea died and sees her as the big problem. Claude coveted the Sword of the Creator, a weapon known to solo armies and cleave mountains, in 3H as well. He even saw Edelgard's war in 3H as an opportunity for him.
3Hopes is people's wake-up call that Claude is not some pure-hearted lad. He's a man with his own ambitions that wishes to install his own beliefs in.
to be honest three hopes Claude was just so out of character for him whould have made way more sense to ally with dimitri to push back edelgard and as the final true enemy to kill Thales and then after negotiating with edelgard restoring peace to fodlan or something along these lines
In GW, it wouldn't make sense to ally with Dimitri to fight Edelgard. He doesn't need Dimitri to achieve peace peace for Leicester. He achieved peace on his own for Leicester. His agenda doesn't include deposing Edelgard, his agenda includes deposing Rhea so using Edelgard as a distraction while sends a strike team to kill Rhea makes sense
Q c joda el Dimitri dicen
The church bad tho
This whole God damn game was a waste of time
Golden wildfire gave me cancer. The story is a mess with writing levels close to those of Fire emblem Fates and the worst thing is that it has destroyed Claude's character.
Golden Wildfire's story is trash, its the only one i've finished so far so hopefully the other ones are better
my personal favorite is Azure Gleam but I’m a bit biased
This is long so bear with me...
Besides Shahid being a clown this video isn't accurate. Claude isn't particularly fond of any religion and particular god(s), especially one like The Church of Seiros considering after Rhea made powerful allies in Adrestia and Faerghus in the past the religion spread and gained enough followers that some of it's teachings had influence in the governments and laws of Fodlan, they become dominant over all other religions and some of their zealots use their dogma to continually oppress others and their religious beliefs.
Adrestia was the aggressor in this war and the Church of Seiros and it's militia sought refuge within Faerghus, and so to achieve Claude's aims independently it was going to be a prolonged battle of attrition and one which Leicester could not afford to wage by launching a counterattack and traveling deep into Adrestian soil as a enemy. Leicester is not only the smallest region with the least military might, it is also most internally divided region amongst it's leaders, had a troubled history of a battle of territorial independence with Faerghus, and was not likely to stave off continued assaults from Adrestia and Almyra rogues who may have been loyal to Shahid if they did not act.
So Claude agreed to the armistice with Edelgard and Adrestia and became allies in hopes of keeping the people and territories of Leicester safe from war on their land and a better shot at being able to get to Rhea and oust her and the Church of Seiros from Fodlan. It wasn't the most "noble" choice he could have made but it was the least risky option he had and one that could help him end the war more quickly and achieve his goals. While Rhea isn't at fault for the Crest system considering she didn't create it or the Hero's Relics and promote them, at the same time she isn't completely innocent either considering she didn't adamantly oppose them in general, or the Fodlandi using Crest heritage for bigoted purposes, out of fear of the existence and origins of the Nabateans being exposed. Claude gave Rhea the option to flee and live a life of exile outside of Fodlan in the end, but Rhea chose to fight to the death in a attempt to keep her and The Church of Seiros' stranglehold.
Randolf's death isn't Claude's fault because Randolf is a somewhat incompetent leader who can't even hold his own in a battle. Catherine gave him a chance to surrender but he refused and paid with his life. Besides Randolf tried to kill Claude and Leicester's army earlier during the war in a optional skirmish and they let him leave with his life then. He should have took that as a sign to seek a new position in the war effort and not get himself killed. Randolf was a hypocrite anyway.
Claude killed Shahid because Shahid refused to see the error of his ways and surrender, he was leading thousands of Almyrans to their deaths and because of the growing resentment in most of Almyra due to his power hungry nature and incompetence. Claude also didn't want his poor behavior to reflect even more negatively on his family and friends within Almyra and in Fodlan in Leicester.
Sylvain's dad was a unfortunate casualty of the war, but he willingly laid down his life and technically didn't die in vain since Felix and Rodrigue escaped.
Well, the poorest country is Faerghus because their main exports are primarily chivalry and benevolence. The Alliance is only "small" because each individual territory basically counts as its own country, as opposed to the single Federation that it becomes in GW. After the death of Shahid, Leicester also has more foreign support than Faerghus's connection with the mostly destroyed Duscur and Adrestia's connection with its vassal, Brigid.