The Downfall of Foamy the Squirrel
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- During the height of early 2000's web animation, I got hooked on a radical talking squirrel living with a goth girl. But over time, the web series changed, for better and for worse. Now, I don't even recognize it anymore.
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Hey @NegativeLegend . No worries, I'm not angry, I've heard worse over 20 years and it's fine that people have varied opinions. I'm not here to change that.
As for the series, I just like to make what I feel like working on and folks either like it or don't. I've always worked that way, and at some point, if I feel there's nothing more to do with the series, it'll end, but I generally still like the characters and tend to change up styles or stories from time to time to keep it interesting for myself and hopefully others.
Also not sure why you would think I would be mean. The squirrel is "mean" depending on one's perspective, but it is a character. A squirrel that really doesn't like people. I mean, how many of his kind have been run down by cars! You'd be an angry squirrel too! :)
Joking aside, as real life goes, I try to be as nice as possible. The world has enough toxicity in it, I don't want to add to that.
Unfortunately though, I do tend to keep to myself and I guess that comes off as "mean" or puts people off.
I know it kinda did years ago as most people with asocial behavior are usually looked at as if they're being rude by not engaging. Just socially awkward I guess. So if anyone got that impression over the years, sorry about that. I've always just been the shy/quiet type. The downside of being quiet is that silence tends to allow people to use their imagination as to how I would act, and since Foamy is their only reference point, they tend to go with that and assume I would be mean.
How come no one thinks I'm Pilz-E IRL, it's always the mean one! I DO have glasses!!! :)
As for changing with the times, idk. I'm generally out of sync with just about everything in life, always have been, and I'm fine with that. I never quite fit in anywhere and I don't think that'll ever change, so why chase trends, seek acceptance or approval. I am what I am. Nothin' special. Just some doodler making cartoons and comics. I'm happy with that and I'm appreciative to folks who have supported my ability to do what I love.
Not sure if any of this gives anyone some insight into my mindset, personality or my approach to the series, but I figure I'd at least let folks know I'm not a mean squirrel-humanoid monster or somethin'. Also, sorry if this is really long to read.
I wish you and your viewers the best. Be well :)
Thank you for 20+ years of your life.
I love foamy!
I have been a subscriber to you ever since the tech support video! I will occasionally watch your newer videos, so I was surprised when I saw this video in my recommended.
I still sometimes sing Squirrelly Wrath 😂😂 I actually just heard a tiktok that used Foamy’s voice and I spazzed 😂
"These kinds of videos were really just food for pessimistic people. That blamed all their problems on everyone and everything else." -Negative Legend, 2024
Gee, that sounds pretty much like 85% of the Internet right there, and I'm more than likely underestimating that percentage.
And anyone who thinks this sort of perspective has gone stale, and has the gall to be farming content by pointing out all the cracks and bubbled, warped surfaces and patchwork repairs? Yeah, imagine that. Over twenty years? Can you think of anything that's not going to get stale over that period of time without kowtowing to modern conventions and losing what it is in the process? This channel here has half that span of time clocked in, and with far less frequency and consistency, with only a coin purse amount of its 'old shame' on display compared to Neurotically Yours. If this channel here is still doing things in another 10 years, you can be sure somebody is going to be making the same take on them and their video content. Especially when so many creators these days seem to self-destruct from their own degenerate shenanigans, the creator of Foamy has kept relatively clean personally.
And if all this sounds like a narcissistic vibe? It means one is comfortable not seeking out the validation and approval of everyone around them. Which is something I'm sure Gen Z is going to push to make a mandate for: That by law, you're required to regularly express your validation and support to anyone they deem requires it, I know it's on the horizon in the coming years. Because they are getting increasingly frustrated in their pursuit of wringing it out of everyone and everything, because they've become so mentally and emotionally fragile in the bubbles of escapism, that they've so meticulously crafted for themselves. All while blaming everyone else for how the world is today ( which the Boomers were actually the first to do, when they invented Counterculture ).
It has been a long ride, and the saddle sores are there to prove it. Neurotically Yours and Foamy have had their own subtle and not so subtle transformations in that period, but in life you can only keep up who you are for so long without the wear and tear you've accumulated causing everyone who comes in contact with you to call your presence abrasive to their own lifestyle. And the attempts to keep chugging down the road are going to feel as awkward and hobbled as the first steps that were taken, just like it is for everyone that ages. And anyone who has been watching Foamy this long is in denial if they don't think foamy is a mouthpiece/soapbox, but there are a lot, LOT worse mouthpieces out there, and few that are better.
I'd like to end this by giving my own mention of gratitude to the creator of Foamy and Neurotically Yours, for all the time you've put in for this long, and for weathering all the slings and arrows that you've carried during that time.
Thank you.
If we're gonna dig into early 2000s flash animation, don't sleep on Homestar Runner
Aww, yes.
Yeah
HSR genuinely was so formative to early internet humor it should be in history books
@@snowpocalypse69 And unlike the (admittedly expansive and decades-long) 'edgy irreverent humor' genre, it's aged like whiskey rather than milk
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no way am i seeing a video about foamy the squirrel in 2024 after not thinking abt him for literal decades im gonna scream
Oh yeah I totally forgot about him 😂
Yeah that's about how I felt also
Is still putting content here in UA-cam
Yeah this guy a Negative Nancy. Foamy Cult 2024
Same lol
I always loved Germaine and especially the comics. I sorta saw her has a way for people to see some stupid stuff women put up with. The whole topic of “men are pigs” vs “sexuality should be embraced and not hidden because of men” is a real mental battle that many women deal with mentally in their lives. I was happy somebody brought it to light.
it was one of the only times I saw someone talking about the problems my sister, mom, and grandmother would talk about to each other surrounding womanhood and how people are treated for falling into the "woman" category. It was comforting in that way. Germaine was definitely a recognizable personality type to kids with older sisters (5+ years older, 9 in my case)
I stopped watching Foamy when one of the Squirrel Rants was about how depression isnt real and ppl on meds for it are just pill poppers that need to grow up or some shit, ironically i saw that after being hospitalized for a well an attempt when i was 17 so not a good look if u ask me. to this day i still struggle with depression and yes i am on medication for it because if i wasnt i wouldnt be functional
from one internet stranger to another, i'm glad you're still fighting and still here 😊
I'm proud of you for doing well now! Ironically, I stopped watching after the same episode since I also struggle with depression.
OMG same actually! Only I'm bipolar with anxiety, it was honestly just hard to watch that episode in general because of how wrong he was. 😭
tbh, seeing that one cartoon when i was still in middle school internalized a lot of unhealthy views on mental health that arguably caused me to have over a decade where i refused help that i desperately needed. im glad that i unlearned that
Which is ironic, considering he was screeching "facts don't care about your feelings." Depressed brain chemistry is calculable and quantitative. Demonstrably so.
Foamy was so well loved by my friendgroup in middle school. Wow, haven't thought of him in a while. Squirrely wrath.
Squirrelly Wrath still gets stuck in my head 😂
@@forestpunks oh god i loved squirrely wrath!
I kinda just got tired of the creator saying he was going to cut back on the sex focus, reboot things, and then go straight back to the old status quo and blame fans for only wanting that.
Also in general after being on the internet for twenty odd years I grew tired of "satirical" rants. Where it's someone telling the truth and it should be common sense when you agree with it, but just a character that you shouldn't take seriously if you disagree.
Some of the skits were genuinely funny, but as a total package it just got kinda old seeing the same stuff each week.
Fuzzy cultural critique.
in like the fuzzy guard sense.
Its all a cornflakes in the end.
Gotta say, Foamy still being a thing nowadays and not dying out is super fascinating.
Meanwhile this guy would be fodder for foamy
@@lindinleA. Not at all related to the parent comment
B. “Fodder” implies that Foamy could make actual commentary on them that isn’t just middle schooler-level angsty insults and calling them stupid, which is basically the entirety of Foamy’s critique style
C. This is fanboying over an irrelevant relic of a YT channel and it’s sad
I'd love to see some more of the 4-Y Records episodes. :D
@@TheNerevahkiin You're just butthurt because it's true
@@TheNerevahkiinyou sound a little parched after that rant 🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃🧃
"Vasquez work focuses on an actual narrative"
Opens a book to see a guy crapping his pants on a first date, a vampire with comically oversized fangs, and 3 pages of "Happy Noodle Boy"
Yeah, the narrarive is as cohesive as a fever dream after taking a hit of acid after binging the 1990s Garfield in Friends cartoon while living in Munchkin Land
And we are here for it.
I was a goth kid who grew up with this, but wallowing with the frustrations of the world can only last so long until you just had to grow up & accept it. Foamy never felt like it never did that.
yeah its like Korn, it worked when they were early 20s and making music for hurting teens. it become cringey when they kept crying about how hard high school was when they were in their mid 30s as super famous millionaires for a new generation of teens.
@@Zectifin as a mild korn fan, the only korn song pertaining to highschool i've heard is clown or f-get.. i think it's a little valid to work through your issues through music. trauma doesn't magically go away when you turn 35 or whatever
i think the answer to the question of why everyone was comfortable with it is because the people watching it felt it was a good counter to what they where seeing all the time, it was that small shift where kids went from playing on a computer and started to actually look at old OLD Newgrounds and get that first exposure to ideas that fell on the edgy spectrum, hell Early 2000s Newgrounds by itself fell into that weird goldilocks timeframe where enough schools had internet but didn't understand what kids could find on it or how to block sites that i used to go to the computer room and played or watch God knows what damaging stuff
Watching the Castle stick series on newgrounds and all the Madness episodes back in the day was a trip
The downfall started when they reverted the HD well-animated reboot designs to the current low quality scribble animation. They also deleted most of their back catalogue which had hundreds of thousands of views.
Bro I was wondering about that. Like the episode of Germain on her journey was amazing and it's all gone
UA-cam mostly removed their old stuff and he looked to archive what he could. Not that reupload channels didn't just do that anyway.
You can thank the UA-cam algorithm for that. Or people like Negative who probably just take the cruse jokes way too much to heart and probably reported it. It is that kind of society after all.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Jim has been banished from Newgrounds. He recently began using AI artwork for some of his new foamy cartoons(and once again, he changed the style for this too). Except nobody on Newgrounds took this well. He began using AI on the short August 4th of 2023, it wasn't noticeable at first. Except it became quite noticeable in some of the later stuff that he produced for Newgrounds, along with using AI to promote some of the stuff he creates. The last straw for him being on Newgrounds was with the short 'Car', and NOBODY was having any of it of Jim using AI for the backgrounds in his cartoons. As of writing. Jim hasn't uploaded anything new onto Newgrounds because of this, he's mostly posting his stuff on youtube since youtube doesn't care if someone uses AI or not. Content is content to the mindset of the people who run youtube. If you think about it. Jim used Foamy as a way to speak out about the world problems(as well as addressing some bad business practices) except now he became a shell of his former self as an artist to speak out for the little guy since he is now using AI for his backgrounds rather than actually hiring someone to make them, and to any artist, that's insulting.
If I would give advice to Jim I would do this. Reset your mentality since health always comes first. Figure out WHAT made Foamy great in the first place, get with the times that the edgelord teenagers that you were entertaining are now in their 30s. And get rid of AI altogether and if you dont want to draw backgrounds, PAY SOMEBODY to do em. There are a SHITLOAD of people who would gladly work for you for a reasonable price to do simple backgrounds just for a either a minute or a two minute skit with Foamy.
Or, tbh, he could find something else to do artistically besides Foamy, Vtubing (b/c yeah, he has two models last I looked) and on top of that a couple podcasts. Dude needs a sabbatical to figure something out on the inside before continuing to create. His stuff is soulless now.
@@tera1692
He won't. His pride will not allow it.
The trick is finding somebody who is not going to attach their own opinions and agenda to the work they do. It would be difficult to resist making even the slightest, minute take on it, just to generate some clout for their own brand.
Plus I find the whole noise about AI akin to throwing wooden shoes in the gears of 19th Century Machinery during the Industrial Revolution. The AI Rant will be forgotten in due time, and we'll only have some term or phrase born of it, that'll be lost in the annals of etymology lore.
And as much as people love to generate bile about mass production, I don't see them throwing away the stuff they bought at the discount store on their shoestring budget, and drive triple digit miles out to some country roadside crafts exhibit, to pick up hand crafted housewares. Especially when they tend to simply go on Etsy, never knowing if they're buying something that was purchased elsewhere, and marked up by a considerable amount.
@@Zavitor “find someone who doesn’t add options and an agenda” you will never watch anything ever again
@trashman11 Tell me you only read the first couple of words of my comment without saying that you only read the first couple of words of my comment.
When I was a teenager I liked Foamy the Squirrel and Neurotically Yours for their anti-establishment and counter-cultural sentiments, but over time, as I realized the more right-wing nature of the content, became disillusioned and disinterested in Foamy and Neurotically Yours.
Literally not right wing.
@GigalassII He did espouse right-leaning libertarian beliefs, especially in the earlier cartoons.
@@MarxistMomentumsoo... when are you gonna stop using politics to talk about media to dismiss those with differing opinions?
@@WokioWolfyart is inherently political so you can’t really escape it
He made a whole cartoon defending gay marriage. wtf are you talking about?
Episodes are still being made? I never watched the show when I was younger, I just assumed it died before the 2010's.
I thought the show got retired around 2016
The most recent video I saw from this creator was him ranting about how manipulative toy-to-life games like Skylanders are. So yeah, it's been a while.
*takes a drag of a cigarette*
Foamy…haven’t heard that name in a long time
I think a lot of it comes down to ranty cynicism being less funny on the internet when, yknow, EVERYONE defaults to that anyway nowadays.
There was a period of like, 3 years, where Germaine got progressively fatter in the main flash shorts.
The official story was that the creator was sick of people sexualizing Germaine and wanted to make her less attractive so it would stop, but uh, anyone who's been on the internet that long would know EXACTLY what would happen. Somehow I don't buy his story.
omg I remember that!! I have a fat fetish so I liked it lmao
It's not even like they made her super huge or anything. She was just like old school cheesecake pinup curvy during that time. I didn't hear that excuse personally, but it's a pretty paper thin one if true
@@TheBrotherGrim At the start sure, but by the end of that arc she was huge
@@D..S.. yeah considering my dating history, she only got more attractive lolol.
I feel seen
i loved Foamy, kept up with almost since its inception. But over the last few years, idk, Foamy has gone from a character who provided an alternative perspective and caused me to reassess how i viewed things, to just another contrarian libertarian, incapable of expressing empathy in a pathetic attempt to feel superior... its sad and just kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth now.
The secret is that Foamy has always been that "contrarian Libertarian". There were CDs of the skits (likely just audio from the episodes). And my dad played them constantly when we did long drives... so you would get all the same half-baked points as, like, Family Guy and South Park, but in this chipmunk falsetto.
This is why, after my parents moved to Texas when I was in college, I effectively cut Foamy out of my life.
@onijester56 that's fair, I guess it just took me outgrowing that stage in my own life to recognize it in some of the mediai consumed. nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
the fact that people were considering reassessing their views because of a cartoon squirrel that kills people and swears constantly is kinda sad honestly. it's a cartoon, you're not supposed to take him seriously, he even acknowledges that in the rants sometimes.
@@dannyboy591 In Shakespeare's plays, the "Fool", also called the "Clown" or "Jester", would act as a source of comedic content in light of the heavier drama and tragedy at the heart of the work.
This same character, the Comedic Relief literally called a "Fool" and a "Clown" by the script itself, was frequently the one who presents the Overt Moral of the play, summarizing events and issuing the "If they did X/didn't do Y, they coulda been happy" conclusion to the story that the play explicitly intends its audience to leave having learned.
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So hiding behind "It's just a joke"... well, if that's truly the case then it's a bad joke.
@onijester56 and that's your opinion as humor differs from person to person, it's OK that you don't find it funny. We can agree to disagree on the humor.
I love Neurotically Yours/Foamy but find it sad the creator is okay with AI art, it kind of chips away the uniqueness of the style and makes it a little bit soulless.
Which he has been so consistent with output could honestly make an ai to make episodes off that alone, which is scary ngl.
When did he say that?
Yet he complains about generic artists and that if you can't be original or great at art that you should just "go bag groceries"
Why fight AI, though? Corpos will push AI and we'll accept it.
@@funkyweapon1981you’re part of the issue.
As much as Amityville Toaster lives in my heart, the really punch-down style rant videos eventually killed my interest. I watched so much Foamy during the art style changes but just grew up out of the humor.
foamy wasn't eveer meant to be taken as a role model though, he literally kills people in the old bits and is still portrayed as an asshole, he even says himself in the bullying rant that he's a cartoon and that people shouldn't take him seriously.
@@dannyboy591 Why you trying to force people to keep watching something they already said they disliked? Like this is how we get people complaining no-stop about things they dislike and makes the internet so much worse.
@TheDoomBlueShell I'm not saying that they have to watch it, just don't try to argue that he was supposed to be some sort of role model because one could make far better arguments that they aren't.
Omg the Amityville toaster! That's what got me into Foamy.
"Amityville toaster making things spooky spooky talking toaster spooky eating toast yum yum yum human hand"
@@dannyboy591 Just because you aren't meant to take something seriously doesn't someone won't take it seriously. especially if the audience in particular ends up being kids (who aren't known for reliably separating fiction from fact or edgy satire)
Vasquez had a lot of good stuff. He wasn't some edgelord, in fact Dib is such a complete parody of a wannabe edgelord its perfect. Then he'd tackle dark stuff and have a narrative and reason for things happening. A very underrated creator, and it's no surprise Invader Zim is still beloved today, and a shame his less high profile stuff is left just for his diehard fans.
As someone who kind of draws, art style is everything to artists. Trying to figure out what makes them.... well, them.
The creator of Foamy clearly read Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, broke out the tracing paper and got to work, as an example.
Before I saw, or knew anything about foamy (so before 2 seconds ago),, I actually thought it was Vasquez’s art
I clicked the video just to find out if Jhonen had made an entire series I somehow hadn't heard of😭😭😭
the goth/emo chick is literally Devi from JTHM/I Feel Sick
I dont necessarily agree, i feel like most art styles are inspired by another art style which inspires another art style etc. its not copying, its inspiration. I feel like saying that if your art is too “similar” to another artists despite not even tracing their art or “copying” their ideas is a bad idea considering a lot of people start off “copying” other peoples styles or whatever out of inspiration and eventually come into their own. Acting like people should have only original ideas is part of the reason so many people don’t get into creative expression because they think they need to make stuff thats literally never been done or thought of before to actually be respected. You don’t. Some of the most popular stuff of all time is derivative of other work which was probably derivative of other stuff as well.
@@DitzyBear And I do agree. But I also feel like there's a degree of it where you kinda can't not notice the similarities to design work from Squee, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, and especially Invader Zim, where I feel the original iteration of Foamy stole heavily from the character of GIR.
Also, you responded to a blatant joke with a "well ACTually."
I'm 39. I was born in 1985. I graduated high school in 2003. I grew up during the 90s, and was a teenager in the late 90's/early 2000's. My little black goth heart LOVED (and I still love) Hot Topic. I spent just about every weekend in my teens at the mall (prior to the Hot Topic website and online ordering) and going to Hot Topic.
I bought and still have the JTHM and Squee comic books by Jhonen Vasquez. I didn't buy the individual ones. I bough the Complete Edition ones, and I just recently got the Complete Edition of all the Filler Bunny comics he did. I also loved Foamy the Squirrel, but this was back in the day, when I would be on Vampire Freaks. That was the Foamy I loved. Eventually, it just got old and just didn't really have a narrative, like you were talking about. JTHM and Squee though? Amazing narrative and very, very meta, and absolutely hilarious.
Fun fact: My online screen name, Myra, came from a magazine I read when I was 16 at Hot Topic (Gothic Beauty). I saw a model, and her name was Vladimira, and I loved the name, so I adopted it as my online screen name, and I've used some variation of Vladimira/Vladimyra/Myra ever since. Lol.
Wow... Vampire Freaks. That's a name I haven't heard in eons.
I'm the same age and I feel bad for the kids that will never have the experience of just going to the mall, no money, nothing to do but show off your new leather jacket, or Mohawk or doc Martin's or whatever your into. Stealing books and graphic novels from Barnes & Noble, smoking bowls and Marlboro lights on the top floor of the parking garage. Skating the parking lot until 11:47 because thats the last bus home. That's just my experience but you know what I mean.
jthm having an amazing narrative? LMAOOO u can tell jhonen improvised it. the praise he gets for that series is nuts. and this is coming from someone who was dead OBSESSED with it as a preteen...
@@rainbowrotcod K.
eeyyy same yeah but graduated one year after you (late in 85). I loved Foamy but after awhile the rants were just punchign down and it felt like the creator never grew up when I did. Stopped watching. The fan service sexyness also felt out of place as I got older in something where the dialogue was supposed to be the focus.
i thought Foamy was a mess-up dream i had as a kid. thank for proving me that not i'm crazy.
I'm so sorry, this is just a dream. There's no such thing as Foamy
@@PrincessAshley972 Does that mean I'm a part of the dream?
@@MeemahSN You're an NPC in this dream world
My friends and I (all in our 20's at the time) discovered Foamy with his Matrix and Metallica cartoons. We loved his rant about anime cons, and we're fans of the series. I had the 'cream cheese' shirt and wore it until it fell apart. But I definitely agree, how Germaine was drawn (then and *especially* now) was always gross. If I noted that as an older person, then it was definitely not a good thing for younger people to consume. I never thought of Foamy as something that would be watched by younger kids; I thought it was something geared towards my demo. It did not age well.
Back in the day, I thought Germaine was intentionally drawn that way as a mockery and not something women should aspire to. Thinking like Beavis & Butthead; sometimes they were right, but no one wants to be "THEM"
Growing UP is really a thing and the "cringe" is a sign of maturing.
I loved the anime con short and I remember when con season was happening during the 2010-2011 eras, that video was shared around a lot as "SERIOUSLY, JUST WATCH THIS. THIS IS ALL WE ASK OF YOU PEOPLE"
@@EeveelutionStorm "This costume has no practical use in combat" and "SHOOWWWWEEEERRRR" live rent free in my brain. My crew were all into cons at the time as well, we shared that video everywhere for the reasons you mentioned.
@@smyl665 Especially when the jiggle would be exaggerated.
@@RSkies YES! I quote that all the time with character design work. lol
God, Showewwerrr, got tossed around cons I went to, too along with Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon Card tournaments...
I swear to God, the worst thing in the world was that card shop on a hot summer day...
I remember my groomer introducing me to Foamy when I was 14. I didn't really understand most of it but thought it was funny because of the grumpy squirrel and the silly voice, but I remember feeling weird about the female character in it. The way she was drawn was creepy to me.
I stopped watching Foamy after being separated from the guy who introduced me to it (thank God for overprotective parents who maybe weren't so overprotective in that situation ngl) but about a year ago I rediscovered Foamy on UA-cam and was like omg I remember this, I can't breathe it's still going! But after watching the suggested video it just... wasn't funny. The guy writing it just seems mad at everyone for living. Idk. It made me reflect on those early teenage years and wonder why I ever found it funny in the first place.
I guess it was because Foamy was kind of like the groomer, a grumpy cussing jerk. Idk. Foamy is part of a weird time for my life. But I'm pretty happy to leave him in the past.
My favorite character was Pill-Z who had some songs about getting away from reality using pills. I thought it was hilarious and I still have the lyrics of that one video memorized... but strangely I didn't fully understand what it was actually about. I didn't know what it meant to get high, or to @buse prescription medication. I was really innocent and naive, and my groomer told me one of the rules of the internet was that "the more pure and innocent something is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it" and I think Foamy was part of his attempts to corrupt me over time.
Crazy to think about now, all these years later...
Not sure why you felt the need to air all that out that was unrelated to your thoughts on Foamy.
And?
sry people are being weird af abt you sharing your experience. despite these people's pisspoor attempts to pretend you said something "unrelated" or something, the fact that foamy was a character that might have reminded you of your groomer and that's why you liked/found him funny is actually really insightful to the kind of people this content caters towards. at the end of the day, the only people who are gonna enjoy content like this are people who feel comfortable enough with it to stand hearing foamy's rants and stick around. whether it be because that behavior was normalised for them, they themself are like that, or they can generalise a group they think is like that. this is really true of a lot of different stuff that tries to pass itself off as "comedy", but really, you wouldn't wanna be the kind of person this is funny to, and it's interesting to think about. anyway, chitchat aside, glad you got away from that man and hope you're doing better now! cheers!
Pillz reminds me of Woody Allen . Rumor has it that he married his daughter in law .
@@zackieboyo or maybe it's not fair to generalize someone's content and therefore their views on life becuase of one person, who happened to view said content
this video seems reasonable on the surfice then you think about it some more and realize the double standard of this person complaining about punching down, which issint an issiue in comedy, all things are acceptable to joke about, no exceptions thats part of the point of comedy its subjective, everythings ok to luagh at, and also this person claiming if you like this form of comedy, your a narcisist, so its a personal attack phalicy, this issint the solid point you think your making, its just hipicritical to complain about jokes that punch down... as you... punch down with with body shaming women with large breasts and personal attacks against anyone who likes edgy jokes, or really anything you personaly percive as edgy... and its all so pointless, a man made fat jokes you dont like, that should have been the end of it, but you need to assign character judgments to him and his audience for that, its unreasonable and overly controling and sensiteive my man. chill
Saying the comedy style of Foamy was being an edgy narcisist isn't the same as saying anybody who laughed at the joke is a one too
@@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois ok, then how do you explain his popularity, if people dont find him funny, dont agree or dont luagh then hed have no audience... what did you think you were saying here m8??? what... are we all just bot accounts??? am i a bot account if i like him???... you realize thats insane right? to entirely dismiss your oposition and dehumanize them just becuase you lack the ability to understand the,??? please tell me you grasp that????
1. I see that Vasquez in the thumb lol
2. Thank you for saying this nihilistic/pessimistic worldview is narcissism-ajdacent, its true, I have run into so many of those in the alt scene and I am so sick of them lol
Nihilism just kind of makes me mad these days It doesn’t make someone smart for being an asshole they are just unpleasant to everyone around them and it sucks
How did this guy think he could get away with straight up stealing Devi's character design from Johnen's "I Feel Sick"? And JTHM?
None of the "rawr random!" Emo girls were old enough to notice? Ah.
And Germaine isn’t even hot. Devi is the best for sure
I used to watch Foamy so much (even made fanart of one character lol) I liked the creators art/animations/relatable rants. It just started to focus way too much on se×ual stuff for me, me and my brother bonded over it, so the se× stuff got awkward. It started to seem hypocritical and all over the place with opinions.
I hate the anti-sex tone that this video starts out with. Don't police adult content created for adults, just because kids are attracted to it too. That's not the fault or responsibility of the creator.
My sister was hardcore into Foamy circa '04-06'. The "I'm the smart one and everyone else is a retard" (yes, forbidden word usage intentional here) rage bait garbage got old real fast for me and I haven't thought about it since this side of 2007. I'm absolutely shocked he's managed to keep it on life support this long, but not at all surprised that it's still getting milked for as much money as it can. The pinnacle of capitalized cynicism. At least he finally seems to have learned line smoothing at some point.
Homestar Runner and the Chapman Bros., now that's where the best of internet nostalgia is at. 😊❤🎉
Also protip: if it seems like "everyone and everything else" is the problem, you need to double check what the common denominator in your math equation is then.
Do you have any actual point besides whining? I don't think you can argue some random child is the common denominator of geopolitical issues.
I stopped watching in 2006 when Foamy said he didn't want weed legal
He did say he was okay with medicine weed
Misinformation. He said he did not want RECREATIONAL weed legal, which is fair. He was fine with medicinal use.
Also, swearing off an entertainer just because they don't support your drug of choice is...weird.
@@gagejoseph91 Anybody who doesn't want all drugs legal is heetlaugh
😂
The video was calling out the potheads who pretend to care about the medicinal qualities of weed when they really want to smoke without getting in trouble.
Never realized Foamy was still going all this time. I loved it when I was a teenager, but I do see now how that edgy humor is problematic. It reminds me of a simpler time so it does give me that nostalgic kick, but as you said, it would be cooler to learn of the creator having some new project instead of still uploading Foamy.
I don't think you're off base in thinking that Foamy was/is, at least in part, a stand in for Johnathan.
I have a suspicion that the degree of narcissism and intellectual superiority is a character embellishment for humor, but the actual content of Foamy's statements is probably a genuine reflection of their feelings.
Foamy has changed quite a bit in terms of character, and I'd say that's less because of in-universe reasons, and more because Johnathan is a different person. If Foamy was just a character all along, I don't think we would've seen quite so much of that.
It might be a bit stale as a bit now, but more power to them, creator and audience included. I might not always think it's particularly impressive, but I can appreciate someone sticking to their guns.
He's not too hard to talk to... But I understand that tends to be a bit stubborn.. but I've been a fan for a while and occasionally say hi to him in stream.. he's disagreed with me on some things but has never actively gotten mad about it... At least not publicly so you should be good to at least reach out..
(Also writers note this comment accidentally went on an unrelated video so if Pancakes ends up here Imma laugh 😂)
is nobody gonna talk about the weird fetish the creator seemingly had for mute girls? that was weird
its funny seeing you complain about the proportions while the anime girl in the background is suffering from the same problem lol no self awareness
That's the joke
It is time for you to rise and take forth your squirrel to the bagel shop
cuz I need a bagel
and you know i need a bagel
with the cream cheese
the creamy cheesy cheesy cream
This has been living in my brain for decades
I am surprise no one made a video about Foamy the Squirrel before! Nice work!
I remembered when they had some merch in Hot Topic. XD
I never stopped watching Foamy since starting in the early 2000's but it has gotten increasingly frustrating to watch. Besides the rants, and other miscellaneous things the series actually had a story and the main story ends with Foamy rebooting the universe solely for Germaine's benefit. It kind of went the Rick & Morty route with the series having multiple universes/timelines and having different art styles for each which made sense at the time. Now there's no story at all which would've been fine but now it seems the creator is just throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall to see what sticks, never finishes any of the side series and constantly changes art styles which is jarring. 1st the Island series with one of the side characters, then the comic series which is just comic panels with voiceovers and now the "Bits" series which is a few seconds of something happening and then a bunch of ads close to half if not more than half the length of the video. There isn't much of anything of value to watch on his channel anymore in my opinion. His channel has more "live streaming" stuff that I never cared for more than actual cartoons which is not the reason I subscribed to his channel in the first place. The rants are the only thing worth watching if you haven't gotten tired of them yet.
Wait, foamy the squirrel was real? I thought it was a fever dream.
Wait, would Foamy's rants make him the first PNGtuber?
You blame UA-cam, I blame capitalism
And that now creation isn't a hobby for people it's a JOB abd MUST be profitable, and like all industries it kills creativity because that might not make money
Monetization of the Internet was the worst thing to happen to it
How much do you think the edgy-ish Foamy content of yesteryear compares to the Vivzipop content of today? I feel like the evolutionary markers are there.
It looks like they come from 2 very different places [i've only watched the pilots of vivzipop's animations].
the first one is just people thinking that being negative and critical and edgy is cool, and more optimistic positive people are stupid or smth. Atl thats what I think when remmembering 2015 youtube that was angry at everything.
and vivziepop is more like, people are tired that you can barely even say word murder on youtube without some sort of punishment. And since you can never swear or show negativity, some people would want to let all of that out.
For me her projects still removes a lot of the edge but is intentional because she wants it to be liked by the majority, while these old videos tend to not care much if they are going to have an audience in the first place and was more a way for the artist show what they wanted.
She wants her projects to become a product while older content were almost never made with money in mind, and this isn't a jab at her if I was in ger position I would also try to transform my project in a product.
It's a lot more "safer" and I use that in quotes because people will still complain about vivizs content being offensive somehow
Ehhh, the OG Foamy shorts were great, because it was silly and funny... but I think, it was really just the age of the era. I remember even seeing Foamy DVD's at hot topic of all things. I think, the creator spent too much time focusing on sex, the amount of reboots was so annoying and then the rants just kinda... got old. Like, it was edgy humor for goth teenagers, not adults. My favorite was the Amityville Toaster skit.
I eventually grew out of it, because I didn't enjoy the amount of changes made and the redesigns just felt dumb. I also got tired of the creators fetishes being shoved into the show constantly.
So, if it's around still I'm surprised, but I got tired of it.
I use to frequent the Neurotically Yours website back in the day. I was introduce when I was between 15 and 16, and as cringe as it is to admit it, it was a big part of my childhood and really influenced my non-conformist beliefs both back then and now. A lot of the old rants have aged like milk (I genuinely disagree with his view on drugs now) but even so, I still look back on those crispy animations fondly, not just for nostalgia, but for the simple fact that they became a refuge for teenagers who growing up in genuinely terrible living situations. myself included.
also, weird to see an overview on Foamy. I had a dream the other night where the creator released a teaser for a Foamy the Squirrel 3d platformer
I remember getting into Foamy as an edgy pre-teen and moving on when I grew out of edgelord bs as a teenager. only liked it because being harsh and swearing was really funny and stopped right before he became the mouthpiece for shit takes and tryhard political bait it seems. funnily enough I learned of Foamy through a cringe af video where a foamy rant was synced over Daxter cutscenes from the Jak and Daxter games.
There was something neat about people doing their best to lip-sync dumb comedic stuff over video games, I watched so many Jak and Daxter and Kingdom Hearts videos like that
I would periodically check in on foamy the squirrel throughout the years, but I completely gave up on it a few years ago. It didn't help when the channel seemed to be bombarding me nonstop with YT notifications around the pumpkin guy era.
I think some reasons why sites have become less edgy and more "family friendly" is because children have been given internet access at such a young age, and there are also no safe places that kids to just be on the internet. ex. Club penguin but it became to monotized by who ever owned by the end. And also these very young children on the internet should be supervised by their parents, so many blame creators for making something inappropriate when the creators never intended for small children to be their audience.
we rly do need a new neopets/webkinz/club penguin for modern kids. neopets is still around and is on the cusp of a renaissance from what I’ve seen, but it also has microtransactions so eh. one could argue neopets’ censorship is too strict, to the point where its own content uses words like ‘unalive’ (like cmon ‘defeat’ is right there) and u cant even type words like ‘therapist’ bc it technically has ‘rapist’ in i, but id prefer that over my hypothetical kid accessing things like what i did online at that age. it’s impossible to stop kids from being on the internet, so they at least deserve a space for themselves
@rotisseriepossum Yea like the need something to accessible and not full of microtransactions, and allow kids to express themselves and interact with their friends.
Huh, it is kinda odd. I spent a lot of time in multiple chat-room type "games" that were for kids or teens. You'd think they'd be more popular than ever instead of closed down or slowly dying. Though then again, maybe just like us they'd rather spend time in the cool forbidden older kid spaces?
I still watch foamy. I blame it on gen x humor. Lol. There's a lot of issues with the creator, but I see him as a modern Steve Ditko or Morrissey, where you question the truth and the persona.
Jhonen C. Vasquez environment makes sense for that time. The bay area, before the gentrification, had a lot of artists. Diego Rivera had a mural at the San Francisco Art Institute. Murals were everywhere (sadly many were destroyed). My school would have field trips to the bay area especially if you were in art club. Meeting artists, artists informing you the different types of art (including animation), etc...
Jonathan Ian Mathers, is interesting bc I'm trying to figure out what's up with him. I assumed foamy was Germaine inner feelings (anxiety, depression, etc) then I realized he was her pet. Lol.
"A strong, narcissistic tone is really the overarching joke of this series." The lack of self-awareness from this billboard of narcissism with the "wtf is this" avatar and the big-boobed catgirl on the screen in the background whining about sexualization of cartoon characters. You don't like the rants because they point out the truth that people don't want to accept and they're more relevant than ever with how crazy has become acceptable. When a cartoon squirrel is more sane than human caricatures who pop up in recommended videos, you know society has lost the plot.
It's annoying how predictable transtrenders are
I remember really liking Foamy. Had no clue he was still around. While not all of his rants were great... there was also something kind of nice about Germaine calling out sexist assholes but still being herself (also standing up for herself and her weight gain)
I love you and this video but It's funny to me that you're complaining about oversexualization with NIKKE in the background LMAOOOO
I've never heard about foamy before, but I've watched Lenore the little dead girl, which kinda suites other shows you presented, i think
That "one cool cousin in your family " has finally uploaded 🙌
Then you have one lame ass family if this would be considered a cool one.
I've never clicked on a video so fast. I used to watch this series as a teen but even then there were themes that made me kind of uncomfortable but it had a lot of messages that I generally agreed with that really weren't all that popular at the time so it came across as progressive edgy to my child mind. I hit around 19-20 and tried to revisit it after realizing that there were new episodes and....I hated it. I was stunned and went to go watch old episodes I know I showed friends and really liked growing up and they don't hold up the way I hoped.
I like the general concept and I think he was one of the first creators to have like an animated rant channel where they were just unapologetically angry and fed up.
But it's strange when you get to an age to be critical of the media that taught you to be critical of the world around you and questioning the status quo and you realize that the rhetoric you walked away from the media with must also be questioned and that you'll absolutely find fault in it. It doesn't take away from the fact that I think Foamy helped me be a little more outspoken about what I believed and felt but I also internalized some misogynistic values and centrist beliefs that don't hold up in real life and I still had to grow past that. I admired his work and while it did motivate me in positive ways ...it also did in negative ways too.
I'm literally typing this before even watching the video because wow I already have so many feelings about this. I feel like Foamy wasn't super popular - I introduced all of my friends to it when it was usually me being shown media - and the comment section has been really interesting. I didn't realize other fans - or long term haters - felt similarly about the series and its inevitable decline. Partially due to fans aging out and questioning some of the things he said and partially due to the content getting a little....😬 No one really has a lifetime career online but it was kind of disappointing to watch in real time.
"I am the lord and masterrrr, and you are all bastaaards. Squirrely wrath." I'm almost 30 and that particular song from Foamy has stuck with me for so many years. I remember back in my late teens and early 20s I rediscovered Foamy and was shocked to see the series still going on. And now I learned it's still going?! Tbh, it's admirable in many ways, I can hardly finish any artistic projects I have anymore (being tired from my job doesn't help).
“I will destroy you all. Nothing you can do about it. Squirrelly Wrath.”
I remember being in middle/jr high and discovering foamy the squirrel and thinking I just discovered a new show no one knew about I was obsessed 💀
Heck even now that I’m in my 30’s my mom still remembers my foamy the squirrel phase and still brings it up every once in a blue moon 😭
My mom randomly brings up specific embarrassing phases I had years ago too and it's *haunting*
I was expecting a controversy. The "downfall" is just "doing the same thing for 20 years and the audience just kinda fell off".
😡Why is it that your generation destroys everything that makes you slightly uncomfortable. I’m black and when my white friends make a funny racist joke, I laugh because it’s funny and they are not racist.
Weaponized Empathy
I don't always agree with foamy's opinions, but I always loved his rants and still do.
Foamy was such a huge part of my childhood. I loved it a lot and would probably look up the new stuff now that I know it exists
Hammers and floodlights is one of my favorite skits ever.
What I remember is Germane had some stalker letters were stnt to the creator. So in anger he made her fat so she wouldn't be sexy - and accidentally made her fetish fuel. Them he saw the money and leaned into it.
I used to watch Foamy all the time, and I remember teenage me mostly liking it. But more importantly, there really was nothing else like it back in the day because content was literally a bottleneck. There weren't that many internet celebrities years ago since very few people had the resources or time to do almost daily uploads to Newgrounds or UA-cam in those days.
However, as time went by I grew more skeptical with Foamy and his rants, especially the ones about mental health. It got to the point where he straight-up told people to not take anti-depressant drugs because it was "unnatural." The final straw came days after Charlottesville where Foamy went on this extremely nihilistic rant about how actually all people are bad and bunch other pseudo intellectual garbage.
Looking back on 2000's internet culture, there's a ton of cynicism, bitterness, and meanness that defines a whole lot of it. Foamy is basically content for an era that doesn't exist anymore.
Oh yes… Foamy the squirrel…
I remember a few episodes I would watch.
Pill-z trying to babysit to earn money for his Medication and it ended horribly.
Germaine messing with anchovy guy ( her stalker/ pizza delivery guy) at Victoria secrets
( that one i remember debuting on my birthday)
Tech support guy gets shocked by a monkey
And one where Foamy had his own songs to sing.
I was a big fan of Foamy in high school. I wound up loosing touch with the series as other media drew my interest. Then a decade and a half later a recently made Foamy rant showed up in my UA-cam feed. I watched it out of nostalgia. What I remember of it was Foamy complaining about "wokeness". At the time I was a bit disappointed but not surprised. What I had originally seen as counterculture edginess in my teens had fully metastasized into reactionary rage and I didn't bother with anything else from that creator. I didn't even think about it until your video showed up in my feed and I watched it out of the same nostalgia.
Of course “the counterculture(tm)” is fun and subversive when you’re the one raging against the machine and all the earnest conformity churned out therein. But ultimately a point comes where the counterculture becomes the actual culture; and since the culture is unabashedly progressive and earnest, it stands to reason that edgelord pseudo-conservative contrarianism is where all the counterculture is at
In the Foamy Fan Mail videos, there was a running gag where he would get messages from people who want to see Germaine naked and he shames them for wanting to see cartoon characters naked. In retrospect, Jim was projecting like he owned a movie theater.
It’s always weird to talk about body features. Why talk negatively about women with large breasts. Why say over sized? People live with large breast they have a right to be normal too. You’ll fight for inclusion but if you happen to be someone with particular feature you can not have any representation because it’s too sexy.
Unrelated but shaman king flowers eps 1 - 13 are on Netflix. Which is surprising
can't believe i'm learning this here unironically tysm
What? They promoted the reboot like it was the new stranger things and then just shadow dropped the continuation without ceremony? That's so Netflix...
@@Puerco-Potter well heres the thing about that: ORIGINALLY the makers of shaman king flowers, DID NOT want it to be released outside of Japan (i know this cuz in the mid of each episode, there was a "not for resale, distribution, streaming" disclaimer).
Thanks
why tf should I care about an offbrand JoJo clone?
people being angry and not having the emotional bandwith to deal with it.
I feel that. I loved in your face stuff as a kid now i just dont have the energy to deal with ppl being angry just to be angry.
Is that a keyblade neckelace i see? I had 2 box sets :/ gave them to a bunch of close friends and none of them appreciated it!!! The bastards
And it looks like it could be Sleeping Lion. Weirdly enough I first looked at the PNGtuber or whatever it's called and was like "I'm getting a weird sensation they are/were into KH", and noticed only after that that they were wearing a keyblade 😄
I think people are oversensitive and overthinking this..Just don't watch it then...
It's not that the humor aged poorly, you are too sensitive. Anyone unironically and improperly using "phobia" is to disconnected from reality to endure crass humor. It's just that simple.
here's some jangling keys for you since you're so easily amused
When I was, like, 18 or 19, I used to marathon his videos while I was working on my computer. Part of my reason for watching some episodes was absolutely horniness. I distinctly remember the episode where the succubus and her respective twit came across a troll. She gets snatched by the monster, and in the next episode, she is collapsed and covered in white. I rewatched it more than others because I'm into monster&&&&ing. Now that I better understand anatomy and sex, the idea is horrifying that it is a joke when she gets r??ed. I don't know how UA-cam handles certain words, so I'm just being cautious.
The war flashbacks I'm experiencing because of this video... I remember the sex jokes surrounding Germaine. Young me really shouldn't have exposed herself to that.
I only knew about the toaster animation. Used to quote it alot.
The edgy humor of the early '00s definitely went way too far at times - sometimes deliberately - and that was part of the attraction. There was an allure in going "too far" and making people mad in the comparatively sanitized post-'90s world. I think that Foamy's rants are not meant to be taken at face value, but are more exaggerated versions of things that Mathers has thought; they're not necessarily things that he deeply believes.
In the South Park era, pushing a satirical idea to its extreme could get your audience thinking about things in a different way, even if they don't necessarily agree with the perspective. But now, it's gotten old. Whatever you want to rant about, people have heard it before, they already know what you're going to say, and swearing a lot while you're saying it isn't going to surprise anyone. What's more, they've already decided whether or not they agree with it, and how it fits into their worldview. You're not going to succeed in making content in that genre unless you can be really clever about it, and even then, you'll probably be painted as an enemy by one side of the hyper-polarized online landscape.
I like this take a lot.
'Downfall'? JiM is still putting out material. He live streams and continues to make new content all of the time. The voice of Germain live streams now as well. Personally I disagree that a downfall of JiM and his content.
I remember Foamy as a kid! I'm honestly surprised it's still going, I mostly remember "Squirrely Wrath" and some of the movie parodies episodes. I kinda miss that edgy "in your face" humor of the 2000's when anything and everything was a potential target for mockery and while some of it was offensive, you didn't mind too much because all of it was delivered by a high-pitched, narcissistic squirrel who you weren't usually intended to take seriously.
I feel like writers today are afraid to write anti-hero characters who are intended to be flawed and have traits the audience disagrees with. Every character post 2012 is written to be as broadly relatable as possible and you can never have characters just have a bad take on something. That's the problem with modern Foamy. If they wanted to make the character interesting again, they should try to make Foamy a little more like his original narcissistic self and be wrong once in a while but have Germain or another character to act as foil for when he gives bad advice or does something wrong.
As somebody who began to regularly post his art on Newgrounds a year or so ago, I appreciate the "promo" of sorts you do for the site.
I didn't even know about Foamy.
I vaguely remember Foamy though a lot of what was on those Newgrounds animations is entirely gone from my memory completely
I knew the guy who used to be Mathers's lawyer. He hated it and eventually left the profession to take over an independent radio station.
I loved Foamy, but I stopped watching around the time the art style changed. I found the rough art style charming. But maybe that's because I entered my time on the internet in the age of JTHM. My original DA used to be crammed full of Invader Zim fanart, so... I mean that probably says everything. I wasn't a rawr XD kid in appearance but I sure as shit was online. So when my brother introduced me to Foamy, I was obsessed. then the charm started fading in favor of a more polished, kinda soulless look and I meandered away. If the crude humor wasn't going to evolve to match the growth of the art style, why stick around? I might go back and have a look for myself to see what's changed. Might
What frustrates me, is when studios do task a risk and try something new, like they did with Thundercats 2011, or Rise of the TMNT, taking an older property and breathing new life into it, either the studio does not support it enough, because it wasn't a MEGA HIT within a few weeks. OR fans act as though it is some sort of insult to humanity, forgetting the media is not real. Even worse, some of these great shows, like Glitch Techs, are buried and never talked about, and then the studio turns around and then the networks talks about how they're not going to make any new IPs. It's frustrating. There used to be a lot more creativity. Now, because of social media, a lot of stuff is derivative...and people don't watch long content, regardless of how good it is.
Netflix is soo bad for this, they cancel amazing shows because they weren't mega hits in the first few weeks of it launching.
@@tacocat1921 True. But it's not just Netflix. Disney does the same thing on both their channel, and on Disney Plus. As does Paramount. The worst part is that, even if a show IS beloved, has a solid fanbase, tons of positive reviews and viewership and even mega awards (the Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance won an ANNIE and it was cancelled), they are still in danger of the chopping block. Either because of taxes, or because the studio did not see Stranger Things levels of engagement. It's stupid, because a LOT of great stuff today did not start off huge. Not everything is going to be a success like Shrek. Sometimes you get stuff like How to Train Your Dragon, or Elemental. Which was TANKING in the box office. But guess what? Given time, and word of mouth, it did better. Studios seem to forget that shows need support AND time. Even the OFFICE was not a success in its first season. Why does animation get the short end of the stick so much?
@@RocknRocknRock true every platform does it, netflix popped to my mind first. Sometimes stuff doesn't really get popular til a couple years later too.
It sucks that big studios forget or more likely don't care that shows very often aren't at their best in the first season but can become amazing over the course of a few seasons. :(
Thundercats 2011 also had the problem that it seems the writers only had thought of the pilot and forget they needed to make a series out of it, I used to watch it with friends, I remember we stop watching at episode of the robot bears and we stopped at the middle of it to get pizza and nobody wanted to continue watching it...
Now TMNT is mostly thanks because they put it in Paramount+, that thing isn't available in every country and is so late on the game of streaming that most people didn't even care to get it, when the movie was launch in Netflix it stayed in the top 10 for almost a month, at least in my country, so it seems it would have a bigger fanbase if it was launch in Netflix.
@@TheDoomBlueShell Rise of the TMNT is a longer story. It's an excellent show, and it was 100% sabotaged by Nickelodeon and their terrible business choices. I can agree that Thundercats drags a bit. They were trying to make a serious show, but in doing so, they forgot to add in some charm. I think that's the show's biggest problem. However, I do like Lion-O and his problems. He's the most well rounded of the cast. I think that, if the writers got a little less stiff, allowed for some more fun, relationship, and character moments, it could be something great. Tons of shows have boring as hell first seasons, but there was a lot of good in Thundercats. It just wasn't executed as well as it could have been.
Friend, you are way too hard on Foamy the Squirrel. I’m not sure how old you are, but those of use who were teens during this time really resonated and found a comedic release with these cartoons. It was edgy because it was aimed at teens, it was shock humor. It’s really not that serious and I don’t think it should be compared to the likes of Shane Dawson who took it way too far.
For a good kid like me, Foamy was my escape to listen curse words. My sisters and I loved it. Because I was in middle school at the time, I just thought the swearing was funny. My dad walked into my room as I was watching it once, he sighed at the offensive content, so I stopped watching it. I don't think we ever sent the stamped envelope, but we wanted to.
I was just thinking about this and wondering what happened to foamy
Sorry man, you're the kinda.... guy? .... who my squirrel warned me about.
Right, this dude was way too critical about some old flash animation
Lol I was thinking the same.
Hey everybody I found the thread with all the losers in it!
@@d3tuned378 sorry it's just you
@@putridabomination your name is fitting
Used to be a big fan, even did the card cult thing and had a lunch box. As someone with self image issues, the more busty Germain got, the more I got away from the series as I liked the racist squirrel as a more edgy comedy, can't take this thing seriously. I was floored hearing this still exists.
Will say this about the island series, it was super cute though!
Foamy is doing just fine. JIMathers just posted a new Squirrel Songs video today.
Well said @illwillpress! This creator could have simply ignored/disregard your post, but he took the time to respond in a respectful way! This is so counter to today's social media's current morality (which double even triple down) on the toxicity! Good on him and the Foamy/Steve the Vampire series fanbase! 🤔🤔🤔
Foamy was so annoying and for some reason that was part of the funny back then.. but he definitely aged poorly..
Funnily enough I found your video because iTunes removed the Foamy The Squirrel Rants I had bought back in 2006; and I was looking to see what happened to the creator and see if it could explain why such tracks and the album were removed from the US Store.
Good to see Jonathan Mathers responded in the comments and it gives me hope that people are still out there being individuals.
Good luck with your channel.
Would you consider doing a vid on the Downfall of Yandere Simulator?
Foamy was enjoyable insofar as its "short-form hyper-animation". But, as with most of the 'edgy teen humor' of the Early-00's like South Park and Family Guy, my parents (particularly my dad)...the simplest term would be "hyper-fixated on". When we would visit family in Pennsylvania or go on weekend trips to one of the further malls, my dad would frequently already have a Foamy CD in the car's CD player.
It doesn't help that a lot of that same 'talking-head' punditry/points-being-made focused on the Fox News 'Libertarian/Republican' understanding of "Fair and Balanced" where it takes off-the-cuff pot-shots without caring to look into the issues, all for the sake of appearing "Intellectual". And Foamy arguably had the most off-the-cuff takes, because of its couple-minutes-per-monologue structure.
So, of course, after my parents moved to Texas while my brothers and I were in college, I stopped watching and listening to pretty much all Foamy content... because by that point, early 2010's, it was all just the same bs ramblings.
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On top of that, the idea that Foamy and its creator are distinct didn't really cross my mind. There might have been some time-period where I did think that for a couple seconds, given how Foamy's ADHD-esque demeanor is essential to his comedic presentation... but when you've spent a decade with the same character saying the same stupid ignorant incendiary things dozens of times...yeah, nah. It makes the character seem less like a character and more like a soapbox.
"The kind of stuff being made by adults and consumed by kids", isn't it every kind of animation out there ? 😂
My main observation was the "Damaging kids" part and then seeing the result by the person covering it.
Nothing against the trans thing,it is just funny to me, when one extreme derides another extreme is just silly.
We all become what we consume where one sees fault the other sees escapism.
It is not something to have issues with unless its actually harmfull to the consumer.