MK4 GOLF GTI BRAKE UPGRADE (312MM AND 256MM)
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Hello and welcome to the SPOOLIN UP channel : )
In this video I upgrade the brakes on the GTI. I did have some issues as some of the parts I bought were not as advertised but I managed to get the correct parts in order to complete the job.
Click the link below to find the guide that I used to help me.
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Easy Naz!! Been following your channel for time now, I've done all the upgrades you've done so it's been a keen watch for me, I actually chose my in tank pump upgrade from you, but I've done one you haven't done yet and it would be good content for the channel, I put mk1 TT hubs and control arms on, mate, the difference is 10/10.
Easy mate hope you are well. I'm glad you have been following along man as its always nice to hear. How have you found doing some of the upgrades and what is your favourite? Also how did you get on with the Kemso pump? The tuner was happy with it. I will certainly look into these TT hubs and control arms, when would you say you notice the difference most? Thanks for your message mate.
Came from your boost gauge video, and really enjoying the rest of your content. As another comment mentioned, it's good to see some UK-focused content!
Good to have you here mate viewing the videos and enjoying them. I appreciate your support man and I hope you continue to like the content. Respect 👊🏾
always good to find a smaller British channel posting relatable car content, keep it coming!
Thank you man, appreciate the nice message mate 👍🏽
Good video, takes me back to when I use to do this stuff.
Thanks for watching Gary. Does it bring back good memories?
@@SPOOLINUP it certainly does
Saw this come up on my recommended. Dont even own a VW but solid video bro. Keep them coming
Nice one man, appreciate you watching regardless and the nice comment 👍🏽
Added a set of 312s to my pd150 swapped A3, difference is unreal! Highly recommend Mtech
Sweet man, what is the A3 like with the PD150? I like the idea of diesel power. Is it Mtech discs and pads that you have?
@@SPOOLINUP crazy man especially with the Quattro doing it’s thing hahah, very tail end happy... currently at 200bhp with a front mount and new cams, it’s an 8L too so she’s old for sure haha.
And I believe they are mintex pads but Mtech offer a massive variety for a super cheap price 👍
@@SPOOLINUP subscribed, look forward to seeing the progress made on this whilst doing my Audi myself... keep up the good work man
Ahh so you have a quattro A3, was it originally a 1.8t then? I assumed it was 8L shape as well man I like that shape. 200bhp is good man especially with only a few mods done. What are you aiming for?
Thanks BTW I will look at Mtech next time I need brake bits after your recommendation.
Thank you man appreciate it mate. Hopefully get some new videos up soon. Good luck with the A3 and keep me posted on your progress
Great video, you do make it so easy to follow. Thanks
Thanks man, I do try my best. When I get a garage I will be able to hopefully make it even better with better lighting etc.
Nice one bro. Good to see some progess with the nice weather
Yes bro thanks man, trying to get things moving, need to be more serious
These look spot on mate! And I bet they’ll look smart with your new wheels too! This video will definitely help me when I come to upgrade!! Cheers mate!
Yeah man they look much better for sure and really clean. I should have those wheels on but the tyre profile is so small and stretched. These roads are awful mate so they will get destroyed. When I have more money I should get 4 new tyres with a better profile. Thanks for watching man 🙏🏾
@@SPOOLINUP I completely understand that. There is nothing worse than a crashy ride because of low profiles and rubbish roads! I have toyed with the idea to get a more ‘race’ oriented tyre set up, but I’ve never got further than a thought haha.
I think maybe a 17" or 18" wheel and a tyre with a bigger profile, some sporty tyres would be cool. I will deffo sort something out in the next few months I hope. The roads are terrible mate, I would just be seeing pound signs and cash register noises as I drive around
Really informative vids man, thanks for making these videos!
No problem man I am glad they have helped you in some kind of way!!
wow looks incredible mate, quality video
Appreciate that mate thank you. I've got some updates coming soon as well so hopefully you still feel the same when you see it again.
@@SPOOLINUP Just bought a gti with no MOT, needing a fair bit of work. Your channel has been a godsend so far helping me through haha
No problem man, have you been enjoying the car so far? I still love mine and have some more plans. What kind of work do you need to do?
Well done bro, coming along nice!
Yo brother yes man progress is slow but I haven't given up. Thanks for watching
Can you say what length the rear bolts were that you changed to ? Good video with easy step by step instructions.
No, I don't have a clue what size they are as they come in the kit and I didn't have to order them separately. I can let you know when I take them off. Thanks, I didn try to make a good video but was ill 🤒
Good stuff, nice upgrade! I want to do my brakes soon as well. I'd like to get the calipers sandblasted and powder coated red (and otherwise refresh the piston, rubbers and other hardware). The Leon already comes with 312 standard in the front, so just getting new discs and pads should otherwise do the trick. Too bad about the wrong parts, hope you can pass them on to someone else and at least get a bit of your money back?
Was it you who was asking me months ago when I was uploading the video? Sorry it took so long if so. Yes man it would be great and a lot faster to sand blast and then get them painted, that sounds good to me. What about the brakes on the rear? Are they 256mm vented too? Hopefully I can see if anyone wants some of the other bits at a cheap price or even give those discs away to someone. Money back wouldn't be a option, it was from someone on Facebook a long time ago. Thanks for watching the video BTW 👍🏽
@@SPOOLINUP I did ask, though I don't think it was months ago..? few weeks certainly haha. I mostly wanted to see how you would tackle the brakelines and them losing fluid (since I would need to leave the calipers off longer) You didn't end up showing much about that, which is okay, you're not doing the video for me lol. The rear brakes are the same solid 232s, I think the vented ones only come on the AWD cars. Not sure how much of an upgrade it is? (looks better I guess, especially with bigger wheels) I find the car already stops really well, even with the brakes being in the terrible condition there are in now.
Hahah maybe a few weeks ago then, I lose track of time easily. I would say that if you wanted to keep the calipers off then you can buy multiple brake line clamps and do the front, then the rear. Or buy some brakes, refurb them, put them on all in a day and then you can refurb your old ones and sell them on. Either way its only the front calipers you keep if you do the whole conversion. The rear ones just look better mate yeah that is the best thing, slightly bigger discs and bigger calipers. My handbrake wasn't the best so doing the conversion helped me as now its fine. 232mm solid is fine in my eyes mate the car does stop well regardless. Collect the bits you need slowly and refurb them, then you don't need to keep them off.
Nice work, you've explained it well!
I've got some carriers from a TT, 312mm fronts and the 256mm rears. I didn't realise that they need spacers on the rears, where did you get your 6mm spacer kit?
Hey man you only need spacers for the rear calipers if they are off a 4WD car. My rear calipers were off a MK4 R32 so thats why I have 6mm spacers and it would be the same off any 4motion or 4WD VAG. If you have the 256mm rear setup from a FWD like a Skoda Octavia VRS then you don't need the spacers. Basically if you needed spacers you would know about it by now so I wouldn't worry. Thanks for the comment man, hope you are well.
Please give me the catalog number of these long caliper bracket bolts!
I found them on Ebay and you only need them if you are using 4WD rear calipers. I know they are M10 × 1.25mm high tensile bolts but I cannot remember the length.
@@SPOOLINUP Under the guise of selling staples from 2wd, staples from 4 wd were sold)))
Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean by that.
Thanks, great job, this is exatly the video i was looking for. How do you feel with the big brake? Is the brake improved? Does the car stop harder? I'm thinking of do the same to my A3 8l which is basically a golf 4 :-)
I'm glad you like the video man thank you. I haven't stepped on the brakes hard yet actually to be honest. I don't think they will make a huge difference but they look much better. There was also a little air in my master cylinder so the pedal is a lot better thanks to that alone. If you can collect the bits for the conversion, make them look nice and then fit them you won't be disappointed. I will be getting the car mapped ASAP so after that check in with me because I will be using the brakes a lot more ; )
@@SPOOLINUP Hello Geez, When are you getting her mapped?
Hey mate, just waiting to do the large cooling fan, get a boost leak test done and then go for it I think. I was supposed to this month but a big service bill on the E46 made me think twice haha.
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About The rear pads...., the wire pad springs aren't fitted correctly in the rear caliper buddy....
Do you mean the springs on top of the pads not spread correctly in the caliper? It's all good. I realised myself and sorted it but obviously, that's not on video. Thanks mate 👍🏽
At 15.38 its hard to tell if u have a caliper retainer clip
It pinged off because it was weak and didn't have any spring left in it so I replaced it with a new one 👍🏽
Oh ok
Hey Naz...we cant really get the front Audi TT carrier brackets here in the states. They only source the rears and have to special order the fronts. I've searched everywhere on the net including rockauto. I found some on ebay but honestly it's a rip off on pricing. Do you think you can source some for me there in the UK?
Apologies I was incorrect with my reply. I could try to source you some, what kind of prices are you getting out there?
@@SPOOLINUP the website ECS sales them for about $175 usd taxes included. The cheapest I could find.
It might be hard to find them without calipers in the UK. I had a quick look last night, you can get them brand new but would be around the same price probably. I can keep looking and see if something comes up, not totally sure how much shipping to the US would be but if it is worth your while I am all for helping.
Looks aside, how's the difference in braking performance?
I think I may have had a little air in the system prior to this upgrade as these brakes seem a lot more responsive but it's not a massive upgrade so I'm not saying it's down to these new brakes. I don't think they would make that much of a difference otherwise but they certainly work well.
Do you have to change the calipers also, or does the old ones work with the new caliper carriers?
If you want to upgrade the fronts you can just buy the discs and caliper carriers. If you want to do the rears you need to buy the whole setup, caliper, caliper carrier, discs and pads.
How long was the bolt please
Hi, it was the sum of the length of the original bolt plus whatever the width of the spacer was. If you haven't bought bolts already I could check my purchase history.
What screw did you use for the rear yoke?
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you are referring to.
What size wheels are you using to fit the 312mm rotor? The tdi mk4 has 256 in the front or maybe its 280mm but i put 288 mm gti breaks on front
The 312mm brakes fit underneath the standard 16" Gti BBS Montreal wheels.
@@SPOOLINUP gotcha. I was told certain 16 inch wheels they won't fit
Thanks
I had the standard wheels on mine for ages with the 312mm and 256mm setup. I have never experienced any problems. What wheels are they? I know the rear calipers were close to my 3SDM wheels but they are off another car so not measure for the Golf.
@@SPOOLINUP using the 288mm in the front breaks no problem but I was told I couldn't run the 312 with my stock 16in TDI wheels. I think the wheels that come on yours are either thinner or shaped in a way that allows the caliper not to touch
That's my understanding anyways
@BRWfilms That makes sense to me, there must be a reason, probably down to other dimensions other than diameter. Did you manage to get 312mm brakes on with other wheels or have you not bothered yet?
did it actually brake better??
I haven't really stamped on the brakes to notice, theoretically it must be better though and it definitely looks better.
@@SPOOLINUP yes, it looks a lot better, im going to do the same mod, I was just planing on upgrading thr front caliper to improve braking, since im going to change the rotors
Yes its pretty cool, the front calipers are the same though, it's the carriers (brackets) and rotors on the front that are different. You can keep the same calipers for the bigger rotors and just change the brackets. The reason why I changed my calipers is because I bought a spare set to paint.
At 14.50 i noticed your rear brake pad clips are not siting right thats dangerous. Just thought I'd let u know
Thanks man, if you are talking about those anti-rattle shims then I took them off because they didn't fit properly. Not sure if it was to do with the paint on the caliper carriers but they were no good.
Ahh yeah you mean the spring clips on the top of the pad. I noticed that and corrected it man, nice one you did well to spot that there 🤣
No problem enjoy ur nice new brakes
Thanks man, appreciate it 👍🏽
How’d it go without the shims? Any noise?
Hey, it's all good without them actually just a bit of copper grease and it's been fine.
@@SPOOLINUP sweet! Appreciate you brotha
No problem, any time. If you can get them on then you should use them though lol
Hello mate where did you get the bolts and spacers as I just went to change my rear brakes yesterday after doing the fronts and my carriers don’t fit, have you got a link or anything where you got the spacer and bolts
Hello mate, all bits were bought from Ebay at the time. You will need to measure what length bolts you need. I measured the original bolts and added 6mm length because of the spacer. You need some washers as well for those bolts and you may be able to find better bolts with washers on the head already. Good luck
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293778397170?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=c3eByFglQNC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=h0Ws8awTSQu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231388117504?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=c2fDk4l7SOu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=h0Ws8awTSQu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Didn’t put the rear pads in properly
If you are referring to the springs, I corrected that after mate. Nice one
Where did you get the rear calipers from?
Hi, I bought them second hand from someone on Facebook marketplace
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On the rear axle you need those 6mm spacers if rear carrier and calliper is from awd version... you have to looking for rear carriers and callipers from fwd version, for ex. Golf 4 gti 180ps AUQ or Octavia I Rs
Yes that is correct 👏🏾