"Fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, But..."| Why Putin's War Has Jolted Ukraine's "Foreign Fighters"
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- Many foreign fighters who joined Ukraine’s fight against Russia are grappling with the brutality of the war, as per reports. The US and NATO have been sending weapons to help Ukraine but have refused to deploy troops against Russian forces. President Zelensky set up the International Legion of Defense of Ukraine just days after the Russian invasion in February 2022.
00:00 - INTRODUCTION
01:07 - ‘ANOTHER KIND OF WAR…’
02:53 - DIFFERENT MOTIVATIONS TO JOIN THE WAR
05:12 - RISK OF CAPTURE, DEATH
06:30 - VARIED RESPONSE TO ZELENSKY'S PLEA
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Afghans didnt have cruise missiles and 50,000 rounds of artillery a day
Neither do the Vietnamese people
@user-be7js2mg4y the veitnamese had SAMs that shot don't a shit ton of planes Givin to them by the soviet union and had migs sometimes flown by east Germans or Russians. John McCain was shot down and my dad's 7ncke was shot down 2 or 3 times.big differance.
@@billbailey1620 Vietnam, Afghanistan, Irak, Syria, etc. what the fuck is the US foreign policy? War and economic interests!
Yea Afghans did not have super sonic weapons and thousands of tanks😂😂
@@user-be7js2mg4yI thought it was to bring justice, piece and democracy to the world!🤣 🤣
Everyone’s a gangster until they face an adversary with equal capabilities
What do gangsters understand?
When the gangster are stronger, they beat up the weaker.
When they meet a stronger force, the gangsters flee.
Exactly. It's easy fighting an enemy who has already been destroyed by air supremacy.
@@thulomanchay shut up nerd you get what he means stop acting like you don't
@@thulomanchay pretty much what hapoened yes
Cuz the foreign fighters have no ammo.
Turns out fighting real soldiers is way harder than sitting in an air conditioned FOB Burger King in between shifts of bombing Pashtun kids with drones!
fighting gopniks 🤣 🤣
Pretty much...and in a safe haven (military base)
How many deployments did you make to Iraq or Afghanistan?
@@YungBeezer Doesn't matter, it still isn't like fighting a real military and Russia is real.
What the ruSSki's found out in 1980.
WHAT HAPPENED???, school bullies met their senior
Yeah who would think the RUS Army was going to be tougher than a handful of used donkey salesmen?
Soldiers … veterans realising that they only served the demo version … now being confronted with real war … that a bad day in wherever is everyday in Ukraine.
Well, its different when your enemy can actually fire back.
@Critical Slayer you are right
@Critical Slayer thats the west for you hahaha
@@dylansubrayan8903 yep, lots of talk. People think that money and weapons win wars , even after losing war after war such as vietnam, iraq, afhganistan, syria. The truth is that the US is not good at warfare, never has been. We came in at the and tail of WW2 and took the credit, since then we have only fought weak adversaries
Russia and Germany for example have long long military histories on the other hand. A ton of American think we would win a war against aliens from outer space! HOLLYWOOD stuff
@Critical Slayer don't make excuses, little Ukraine slapping Russia around from the start, they literally had to run away and regroup in the east of Ukraine before they had nothing left... Russia bit off more than he can chew thee are over 300,000 NATO forces.. and that's just for starts, just wait for your boy to make one move on NATO , that would be scuicide ,🤣😂
@Umyalike no I'm not...(South Africa) I'm from the Global South 3rd world countries
if Iraq and Afghanistan gave them PTSD, imagine which disorder they may have caught in this war
PTSD extra strength 😢
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@jamesalexander3530
French cut and run syndrome.
Lollll 😅
😂@@jamesalexander3530
Mercenaries are surprised they're not fighting shepherds and farmers. They thought this will be like some video game. 😂
They know they were facing a modern army of fascist orcs that invaded a nation who refuses to be conquered by hordes of Putin's murderers and rapists (just like the Soviets in WW Two)
Imagine how stupid they are, they've believed their propaganda channels and thought that Russia is weak and rhey will beat them easily.
As veteran can't agree more with that
@@TheBadaczYou just outed yourself as non-veteran … its war against Russia … supporting a side that has not all the fear and backup a world elite military power has … with daily fierce fighting … a bad Iraq or Afghanistan mission being every day carnage … nobody expected farmers with forks and petrol bombs.
sheperds and farmers won.. 😂😂😂
I belong to several veteran's Facebook groups and when this all started some yahoos on there were beating their chests about how they were going to go and teach the Russians a lesson. But that died down rather quickly. Haven't heard a peep out of anyone for a while.
😂👍
😂😂😂😂😂🤣
The chest beating have silenced 🤔
😂😂😂
🤣 True case of FA and find out 😆
Western volunteers mostly fought wars on the stronger side, now fighting for the weaker side is a different story
The Pirates were a private navy for the Dutch that only attacked Portuguese Merchants, is that too far back? (1300s was the beginning of the 'Christian Reformation Wars' where 'well financed Christians in the north, 'hired large ungodly armies' to fight against the 'Roman Christians in the south part of Europe'. It is still going on in 2022.
I think its more along the lines, since they dont see any Ruzzian troops, is the fact Putler keeps bombing and shelling from OUTSIDE and above the country. Kind of hard to fight off the enemy when they are not in the same country as you are, to actually get to the troops that are!
I wouldnt call Ruzzians stronger, not by a long shot. Putler is a war monger, its obvious all he's done the last 23 yrs is mass produce bombs and shells. He has how many troops? And when they are hand to hand with Ukraine who has 1/15th they have, they lose big time. Having said that, Ukraine is by far the stronger side.
Eh, Ukraine was, and still is the weaker side by far. I think everyone already knew that no matter what we throw at it, there would be a stalemate. And time is against the Ukrainians because Russia has the numbers to keep pushing forward. I think the Legion was created to help, but ultimately show a fighting spirit to hopefully get planes and troops on ground. But that's still not happening, and the foreign fighters are probably realizing that Ukraine will be hung out to dry, especially with Biden in the chair.
@@MsSquirl00 NATO should take note of the hypersonic missiles fired by the supersonic bombers that are deep inside Russia, but close to the plant making the weapons, can hit any military base in any European nation that is a member of NATO. All using conventional explosives.
Luckily, NATO and the EU World Bank is run by psychopaths, they will think they can win no matter how much they are actually losing.
They forgot Putin is a war criminal, just like Bachar... bombing entire cities to the ground with people living there, is not a problem.
Aleppo, Grozny, Mariupol... same story, same Putin.
Western fighters come to fight, not for genocidd.
I’m an American and the people who volunteered just to fight are idiots. The veterans are finding out that this war isn’t getting potshots taken at them from 500 yards, hunkering down, and waiting for air support. Russia is the stronger force here and these volunteers are finding that out the hard way. Don’t choose to fight in a war you have no stakes in.
Mercs have no nation. Their nation is money.
Don't choose the wrong side either
@@tayikolla6205 my grandpa is rolling in his grave seeing we are siding with the natsees now
Not to mention Afgani, Palestine, Iran ... All got quite a bit of money and support from Usa. Not super aggressive towards them
The Western propaganda makes it seem that everyone has a stake in it! "If we don't stop the Russians now, they will continue their conquest west! And they won't stop before the Russian flag is waving on Hollywood Boulevard" Those people legitimately fear that scenario.
That this is some of the greatest fabricated bullshit stories ever thought of is another story😒
These mercenaries turn up acting like Rambo and run away home like Bambi when the firing starts. The gimps 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Act like Rambo .................................Run like Bambi
That should be on T-shirts
That's the story of Wali, the Canadian super sniper who killed an Afghan with a shot at 1 mile distance. But in Ukraine he was almost killed by a T-72 tank . After that he decided to leave after just serving 2 months firing 2 shots hitting no one.🐿️
😅 DAM
Ha ha ha 😂😂😂😂
"It's a different story when the rabbit has a gun" Soldiers that fought lightly armed militia in Afghanistan and Iraq got a different perspective against a heavily armed and highly motivated Army. The soldier that said he never saw a Russian soldier gives an indication of the intensity of the artillery shelling.
The Afghanies still kicked ass even without superior weapons as they had their home terrain to use. Enemies of globalism are friends to me no matter where they come from or who they worship.
@@PaulMartin-zc9ojAmeriSwines te33orists get defeated in Afghanistan by taliban even after taliban didn't have anyone to support them 😂😂😂
What utter crap … there has been fierce fighting with highly trained troops in Iraq … who is heavily armed and highly motivated? Russia was not … yes, they got shitloads of shells … delivering 200000 to the enemy every single day … whilst Ukraine returned 2000 with hardly any frontline backup!
@@GanymedeXD They may have been fierce fighting but they were always over matched by the US forces firepower. Highly motivated??? They were in their country fighting for their ideas (what ever those were)
"An American who has been through 6 wars told me it was the worst he has seen. Missiles, bombardments"..... Now this American knows how the Talibans felt when they were fighting the Americans with no proper artillery, air support, tanks and more sophisticated weapons... All wars are brutal, just that he is on the other side with big disadvantages now.
The dead: karma is a b$#%^ isn't it?
One big difference, though. The Talibans fought on. For 20 years they faced "extreme danger" and they didn't flinch. I'm no huge supporter of the Talibans, but I would never question their moral in battle. And I guess the politics and methods of the Taliban movement is the logic consequence of a country that has been bombed for 40 years. If there ever was a people who deserves law & order, it's the Afghans.
Taliban are vermin and deserve all that happened
They did this to themselves. All they have to do is nato not expanding eastwards, putin has been telling that for years if not months. Right now they poked the sleeping bear and are crying all the way back home. Get outta here.
Six wars…Iraq, Afghanistan….Syria? Lybia? What else
It is a different story when your “enemy” does not have sandals and second hand rifles..
Yeah, now they have tanks from the 1960s.
@@user-mq7vf9me3y funny how those tanks frim 60s obliterating modern wester equipments every single day. Gaining land every day by using ancient weapon. What a mad lads
like the Russians using Mosin Nagants lol
@@itsollieagain2909 Tell that to the foreign fighter who's not even seen a single Russian.
@@lakshaysingh9743 You realize in a real war you don't necessarily want to see the enemy to be able to your job and protect the zone you have been assigned. I bet you haven't had any military training and just play some stupid suicide games all day.
They thought it will be like Vietnam or Iraq war with full of air support while shooting their RIFLE and sniper from the ground. Against this Russian it's completely different. Full of incoming drones, missiles and Artillery. They just die without even seeing their enemies.
Even in vietnam they runsaway...😂
Well considering ukraines air force is subpar it's understandable. Wish the U.S would go botg and send air support with fighters who are experienced in air superiority.
@@Corbin97 why should the US escalate the war on behalf of Ukraine? Ukraine is a former Soviet state, not a US ally.
@@d_all_inbecause your Nato enticed Ukraine to join..
They fought general people in Iraq and Afganistan...now, they are facing actual soldiers.
What bullshit … they are no facing ‘real soldiers’ any more … those were the first that got wiped out … now its criminals with guns and poorly trained conscripts … but they are learning and have endless shell and meat supplies! In Iraq they faced highly trained Special Forces with some if the fiercest tank to tank battles since ww2 … but has had the US war machine behind them providing support … now they got Ukrainians in some civilian cars dropping them off … counting shells … receiving 200000 a day … returning 2000 …
Yes, there's a difference between dropping bombs on a civilian population that cannot fight back and facing off against a well-trained, well equipped army that already has the upper-hand.
That for some reason commits terror attacks on hospitals and malls
@@Cola_Dulz If you would got your news from different sources, you would see with all the proofs, that all that malls and hospitals are full of army vehicles, military personnel or either used as a factory for making military shit. And learn about difference between missiles that Russia sends to attack and air defense missiles of UA bums. You will then notice that most of hits in civilian buildings are from their shitty air defenders.
@@Cola_Dulz Rubbish!
proof... most of those hospitals and malls are wrecked by surface to are missiles like patriot@@Cola_Dulz
Are you referring to the United States?@@Cola_Dulz
What happened? Can't fight actual soldiers, only civilians in Afghanistan?
Lol they were just getting bored as hell arty war is boring it's just seating around no infantry combat. In Afghanistan it was infantryman vs infantryman. This war will be a lot of seating around looking out for drones
@@orangecookie3132not bored but shitting in the pants when Ruski arti explodes on their heads😂😂
Haahahaa lol see this american 🤣🤣
@@TheLovemeifyoucan😂😂why are we late. They can only fight civilians
@MrDelgado559 actual soldiers?😂🤣😂🤣 are you referring to russian "soldiers"?
the realities of life can be really hard - so many "volunteers" thought it would be a cake-walk - Russia is no pushover !
The Russians didn't beat Napolean and Hitler for nothing
People would say winter is the reason but forget that they also fought in the winter
They also lost many men and killed their own who happened to be in the way, and for what? In the end they ended up with shite.@@superiorshotgun4348
They beat the Finns into neutrality and made them cede land lol@@superiorshotgun4348
They say so as if the harsh winter conditions worked only and selectively against Napoleon's and Hitler's troops and left russians alone !!!
No matter how advance and powerful you are, Nature, tenacity and Numbers can't be ignored.
US should take note
I respect Afghani people more after seeing this ....they are braveheart
Definitely, They fought for 20 years against the Americans and even more against the Russians
The Vietnamese people are also braveheart!!
@@user-be7js2mg4ybasically tens of other nations that went on war because of US
Iraqis, Libians, Syrians all are braveheart.
every nation who the US calls "terrorists" are most of the time bravehearts
When you fight soldiers and not farmers it’s a different war indeed.
As an ex British army veteran I can with hand on heart say that the wars we we involved in Iraq and Afghanistan were nothing compared to the falklands war.
Western army’s our simply not used to fighting a professional army.
Comparable in the sense you were always on the evil side
Neither is Russia looking at how long os taking his "special operation" in reality.
@@tayikolla6205 Ok, random pro totalitarism bot.
@@spacewargamer4181 Ok, random zionist owned globalist bot.
Different huh? When you’re no fighting and murderering innocents?
I don't blame them... Those Russian shovels are terrifying when deployed. 🚀
They thought that the Russian weapon is a vintages weapon and the Russian don't have any new technology weapon like the Afghan, Iraq, Pakistan or Syria. Like it was told by their media. But when they came, they in a hurry to go home.
😂they just flew in and fly out 😂😂
How stupid is this … making shit up … reality has shown they faced less high tech than expected … but endless masses of shells and worthless meat … whilst them not having frontline support!
Plus, west media told them Ukraine was winning 😂@@TjZz
The foreign fighters that fought in Afghanistan and Iraq don't have the same "luxury" they had in both wars, like Air strikes, Close Air Support, Adequate equipment, ammo, and transport. So a lot of the tactics and doctrines they learned are not much applicable in this current situation.
Up to that moment what they thought as war is a guy shooting at them with an old AK 47. Russians just taught them what the real war is and they just ran back to their homes. 😄
Absolutely you are right ..even they do not have enough food .
@@Panaputra are you there fighting? Or are you at home?
They are cowards instead of fighting farmers they’re going up against a military
You are wrong my friend xD, Ukraine was part of Russia for ages. It's now a neighbour, Russia knows each and every place or Ukraine and they know the terrain very well and Ukraine is a easy catch for Russia.
I am puzzled how these soldiers are surprised that fighting someone in mostly equal playing field sucks incredibly hard.
American exceptionalism is a helluva drug.
Don't think any foreign fighters or Ukraine fighters are surprised at the difficulty or brutal nature of fighting a well equipped Russian army.
Most of these ppl are POGs (non infantry ppl)
Most ppl in US knows ukr caused this war and rus war just to invade; also that ukr has no hope for success even with western mil aid... we should be bombing corrupt ukr not supporting it especially after all of ukr war crimes during and before this war... a few thousand volunteers is in no way representative of US power or fighting abilities of our soldiers; that said real US fighting solders are not at all nieve.... I was just a normal infantryman but still I can see many ways of bringing both ukr and rus to their knees if I were to fight for either side
I know. Im not going to get into my experince ir background in war. I will say this. How the fuck can a trained military man be so foolish.
You have only fought against people who were unable to fight back
Same with you. Lol.
Utter bullshit … Iraq had some elite troops that provided fierce resistance with some of the kargest last tank to tank battles … problem was that even in Afghanistan there was fierce resistance … but a bad day there being daily Ukraine business … fighting for s country that has not the military might to provide all the gear and support needed.
@@GanymedeXDdon't fool yourself 😂😂 don't compare American equipment with Iraqi 😂😂 deluded
It's different when the enemy has massive artillary advantage , unlike those poor chaps in sandals
What did they think fighting Russia was going to be like? Especially given Russian historical preferences for masses of mortars, rockets, and artillery?
They dont study history for shit in the west. Hell half these assholes still think its the soviet union and Putin is a communist.
UA could probably do more with people that are used to working behind enemy lines. Just putting them on the front line in a trench does not make the best use out of them and the adventurous sort need their fix of adrenaline to keep engaged. I had rather die in a blaze of glory fighting for a good cause than just waiting for a bomb to drop on my head.
@@chinarello2928 non-uniformed "volunteers" from countries not directly involved engaging in "behind the lines" operations would most likely be summarily executed as soon as they are found. They would have zero Geneva Convention protections and would offer Russia a huge PR boost.
@@RantTheRetort Why wouldn't they have uniforms? Ruzzia does not have a great track record so you would have to be prepared for fighting to death, but that is better than just waiting.
@@chinarello2928 You want third party nationals to wear ukrainian uniforms behind Russian lines? Seems a bit unwise.
You know it's the absolute shit show when they tell "I've never seen Russians in this war" and then some other guy who has been through six wars, calling this one as the worst. I bet he also never seen Russians. They all never seen Russians. And then they die.
You can die from artillerie without have seen any ennemy.
Scary as hell bro
And then u have the western propaganda machine scream Russia is using meat wave tactics 😒 .Lame,i trust Arabian nights and Aladdin more than western MSM.
They never see Russians but in the news they see Russian meet walls what a bunch of bullshit then you got that scared American should be ashamed to call himself American saying it's the worst he seen and he been in 6 wars what 6 wars talk shit he probably never been to a war in his coward life straight up lied to justify putting his tail between his legs and running off just talk for the camera like we wouldn't find out most get there and say they had military experience when they never just to look tough idiots
But they say Russians attack with human waves 😂
Western and NATO terrorists are now shitting their pants because Russia is able to fight back, unlike Afghan, Iraq and Libya.... 😂
How ironic that Afghans and Irquians are now fighting for the people that fought against them. Not a brain in the bunch! lol.
What nonsense …
@@GanymedeXD Yet, more people are turning to Russia and leaving the US behind.
Oh so the Russian shovels hit pretty hard isn't it?
Iraq & Afghanistan, we had controlled the Air and superiority in Firepower. In Ukraine, the rolls are reversed. It’s totally different.
Oh, dear. What shame getting arses kicked to the back of the necks.
And yet the Afghanistan managed to kick the ass of the American GI Joes 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 with flip flops and AK 47
And still lost, Taliban still in charge💪💪💪
Exactly .. plus “civilian casualties “ is not in Pootins vernacular since they aren’t his civilians… people of Dunbass are dumb …
Pootin prefers to go in with bulldozers when it’s over .
@@jetv1471 civilian casualties happens in every war, especially when the military that is supposed to be protecting the civilians hide in civil buildings like Ukraine does lol
I guess many foreign volunteers have their "1914 -moment". Back then, British army officers had led many colonial wars against much weaker opponents and expected decisive results with minimal military efforts. They were absolutely shocked about the small successes and heavy losses sustained when fighting against a fully fledged modern army.
Russia isn't modern 🤣🤣🤣 cold war era trash isn't modern
@@BorntoYeet Russians someday would wipe west single-handedly they are the most powerful army out there
@@BorntoYeet Russia is also not Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Libya or Iraq.
Damn right
@@davidkomakech9769 yeah, it's SnowNigeria
Every person there thought " Yeah bro. I was a decorated serviceman in my country and later joined a tier 1 unit." 😂 Artillery and missiles don't care folks
Of course it's another kind of war. It's the kind of war where your enemy has the upper hand and the jet fighters providing back up to them instead of you.
In Afghanistan and Iraq enemy had little to no artillery and allied forces mainly US and UK had air superiority.... Which is huge advantage..... Being shelled day and night will warp your mind
and still???
@@paktoons7271 , still usa lost lol
@@aquatranquility7666 lmao how you lose when you controlled the country for 20 years 🤡
@@aquatranquility7666 not really
@@justinapps3047 no draw in wars
It is understandable, as there is a huge difference between an insurgency and a semi conventional war. The foreign fighters are also not used to be fighting without overwhelming superiority.
Language barrier is also strong.
@@Minchya every ukrainian speak english
@@Minchya there is education you know
I hate to say it but our trading in the USA has gone down hill. Stress cards and cuddling have led to soldiers who can not fight a REAL war. They’ve been trained to be police officers not soldiers. All types of training regarding urban combat, jungle, desert, are good but if you allow the soldier to step away when the streets gets to be to much for them, how are they going to react on the conventional battlefield a WWII style battlefield? Answer: just like you see in this video.
@@CitsVariants Say that to accents XD
I bet most of the Western guys that went there thought it was gonna be some fancy small arms shooting range practice 😆
Fighting an enemy that can fight back. MOMMY ! WAAAAAAAAAAA !
I mean what do you expect, they are volunteers. They can't call in nato air support, armour, etc.
These mercenaries have never been in a real war. Most of them always had the odds on their side. Fighting an enemy who has the same or better equipment is what war is about. Bombing innocent people who could not fight back was never a war, just a massive massacre, a war crime.
Zelenski hands out guns to civilian population and encourages them to fight. And the so called civilians are seen helping to barricade streets.So they will obviously be shooting from structures. So maybe only small children civilians unless they pick up guns off dead or wounded adults.
Pretty much, they did drone strikes on afghan farmers for years, the biggest threat was a toyota with an AK47.
But who’s land is it?
ua-cam.com/video/z8Q-sRdV7SY/v-deo.html
Exactly! Russian military is not farmers with guns. And what about all the civilians killed in all the wars the US and the West have started...?
Most of the western military adventurers and foreign mercenaries going to Ukraine thought it would be like the asymmetrical warfare as the USA has been involved since 1980 in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Granada, etc. - fighting under total air, naval, and communication superiority🙄 they are not acquainted with high-intensity conventional battle in symmetrical warfare, especially against superior force🤔
They are all used to fight insurgents equipped with AKs, hand grenades and RPGs while enjoying being supported by drones and satellites.. When your opponent is a modern army with artillery, mortars, aircover - that's a different story. So, when someone claims he has combat experience, that should be taken with a grain of salt.
They do have combat experience and those foreign fighters have beaten the Russians before, of course they have to pick their battles though.
@@enriqueperezarce5485 The foreign fighters engage the Russians, take heavy losses, but ultimately repeal them. The dust settles to a few Russian tanks and BTRs burning and a bunch of dead Russian infantrymen.
Then the artillery starts, the foreign fighters take even further losses and they fall back.
Then they have to do it again later in the day. And then again the next day. And with every engagement they take losses, and everytime they win an engagement they have to bear the fact that they didn't even put a dent into the overall strenght of the Russians.
Western soldiers are not used to that. Thet're used to quick and easy victories against weaker opponents. They can't sustain that.
Best statement I have seen in UA-cam. My grandfather had "combat" experience fighting the battle hardened German Army in WW2. These modern "warriors" from Iraq and Afghanistan have had it easy compared to their WW2 counterparts. It was alot colder in the Ardennes, lol.
Even Ukrainian drones are not working, Russia has stepped up its electronic warfare game now. The Bayerakhtar drones are falling faster than ever. Russia is showing what future wars may look like.
They have more experience than Russia. Russia can't defeat little Ukraine.
As I've said from the first day you dont fuck with the Russians especially on their turf. I argued with many of my friend's who thought it right to cheer for Ukraine to fight this war, i knew with absolute certainty that this would be a disaster the likes not seen since WW2 and ultimately Ukraine would loose.
Same I've been watching since 2018 the events leading up to this war. Safe to say I knew Russia will do anything to prevent Nato expansion in Ukraine.
70 year old International volunteers in the future after seeing a shovel: 😨
Those volunteers that arrived, surveyed the situation and immediately went like "fu*ck this, I'm out"
Do or die. ***THE DEAD HERO STINKS the same as the DEAD COWARD***.
They thought they were going on a turkey shoot and found out they were going to have to wrestle a bear
Too much wargames,too much sofa
They find that war in computer games isn't what they are experiencing in Ukraine: they real thing hurts.
Even the Wagner mercenaries and Chechens are fleeing.
It's one thing to fight a sand man with a AK and a bomb. It's another to fight a full blown army with enemy tanks, APC's, fully armored troopers, drones, attack heli's, jets. And literally everything you got against the sand men. AGAINST YOU!
Sand man lol 🤣👍
@@gianlucaviottelo9486 hilarious !!!! Sand man made my day
Don't forget they lost to those sand man and goat herders, hell they lost to rice farmers and jungle man lol
@@haruyanto8085 Treeman and Sandman, America's greatest enemies
Sand man 🤣🤣🤣
Fought against Iraqi civilians and flippers-wearing Afghans 125cc bikers… now fighting Russia’s army… what a surprise 😅
I watched one interview and the guy said he only fired his weapon twice in Afghanistan and now in Ukraine his gun is overheating from the amount of shooting he’s been doing
It's different when you fight an enemy who is capable of doing jumping jacks
ROFL 😂
😂😂😅
Imagine if they were going against an all Spetsnaz force😊😊😊😊
You also have to realize the foreign legions aren't fighting their own wars for their own soil and own families. Of course they realize it isn't a war they want to fight once there. The moral of a foreign volunteer vs a home grown soldier are completely different.
The locals are in many cities/villages siding with the russians. For 8 years they have fought for freedom. With the help of Russia, they are finally winning.
What a lame excuse 🤣😅🤣
@@ibrahimotieno7432 Muslim men are infamous for their cowardice, all the Middle Easterners illegally trying to enter Europe are all young men who are running away while leaving behind women, children and the elderly in their own country. At least these foreign volunteers still try, which is a lot more than can be said for those in the Middle East.
True, but Russians also aren't people in curtains and sandals roaming around in Toyota with AKs while the brave mercenaries snipe them from high ground....
There are many foreign fighters who are still there.
Now They Know What Real War Really Is!
They never went up against shovels and washing machines before😂😂😂😂
“You forgot Ukraine is my backyard"
-Putin
*You forgot Ukraine is MY backyard"
-Zelenskyy*
It looks like some people disagree.
He forgot we don't gove a shit. We are the ones who decide who is the master of OUR land
@@AndrD1406 He forgot Ukraine don't gove a shit. Ukraine are the ones who decide who is the master of OUR land
Neighbour's backyard, actually.
Go home, orcs.
They might have thought situation here will be same like that of Afghan,Iraq where the enemy has only Ak-47 and grenades
Drone strike Syria...
Maybe another one will hit Iran.
100% correct
Exactly
Facts
NATO Nazis Terrorist jihadists
They tought its easy money just like fighing some old guys in flip flops.
When you're fighting the enemy but not able to see them. Run. Go away. Go and live with the women & children..go where you belong.
"never seen Russians in the war" - what does it mean?? You are fighting against Russia, not Taliban or Iran😂😂
They thought they were going on a turkey shoot and found out they were going to have to wrestle a bear
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It means that they haven't seen any actual Russian soldiers in battle. Just machinegun and rifle fire or just artillery strikes. Never an actual person.
He means, all he has encountered is missile and artillery attacks. The cowardly Russian soldiers hold back and let their shells do as much of the killing as possible, much of it civilian deaths like the shopping mall yesterday.
The Taliban still won against superior firepower with artillery and airpower. They even defeat the Russians during the 1980s.
These foreign mercenaries went to fight but are getting killed without even seeing a single enemy. Some of their camps are being obliterated from 1000s of miles away from the Black Sea. This is not Iraq or Afghanistan. They went to fight but are dying in their tents. Obviously they want to return home.
Their commander in Chief has dementia. Blind leading the blind.
Likw Wally, didn't fire a single bullet at the Russians in 3 months. And all of a sudden, a Russian tank annihilated his comrades and left a buzz in Wallys ears and thats all she wrote!
man this war sucks, i'm taking my plate carrier, my ballistic helmet , and going home
What I love is if it were men wearing American flags on their uniforms to help the ethnic Russians they'd be heros. Answering the call from people who've been shelled for 8 years, had their water supply blocked to 2.5million people and who's coup government sent actual nazis to quell the unrest in the east who've been begging for help and someone finally came but because they're Russian they're war criminals. I guess America forgot about the 11million people we killed in the middle east, 90% of which were civilians. The west is disgusting and our populous blinded by a very nazi like propaganda apparatus that leaves them knowing less than nothing about anything
That’s precisely why the UK is bringing them to train in the UK. 10k troops every 120 days won’t replace all the losses though. They are counting on Russia not bombing those camps. That is usually what UK/US/Israel and others do if those camps training troops for their adversaries are in poor countries.
underestimating your enemy can prove to be a fatal mistake, always respect your enemy or be prepared to pay the consequences of arrogance
Bothering poor nations is for sure easier.
The fighting in Ukraine is like the Western Front of WWI. A soldier will meet his end by enemy artillery. That's why artillery is the king of battles, it produces the largest amount of casualties in combat. The infantry on both sides are always going to be targeted by artillery.
Just imagine Russians can turns that from western to eastern front and then it would be a real nightmare.
@@hp2084 The Russians are doing it now. They are using a doctrine copied from the French and British in WWI called "The Creeping Barrage". Which is firing artillery ahead of your own attacking infantry to destroy obstacles and defending trenches. The Soviet Russians did the same thing in WWII by making their artillery and rocket launchers mobile to set up quickly behind their armor and infantry before they attack and follow during the advance to relocate behind their forces to support the attack. The Ukrainians can't stop the Russians without air superiority. The Germans did this in all of their invasions of Europe and Russia which the Russians turned the tables on the Germans at near the end of WWII.
Your words are true but gradually drones are becoming more effective because they are cheaper, harder to hit, and the individual piloting the drone can be thousands of miles away.
Infantry is the king of battles. you cant clear an area with artillery, it takes a soldier on foot to clear every street, every house and every room before you capture anything
Artillery is only effective with air support otherwise it can be destroyed
Even the so called baddest sniper from Canada (Ali) went home,these volunteers mostly fought wars on the stronger side, now fighting for the weaker side is a different story they surveyed the situation and immediately went like "YODO, I'm out"
Wait, he left?
Last I heard of him was he telling these guys to not make themselves visible and soon after a shell landed close to them, killing them. Ali survived with some scratches.
What, Wali went home already? Why??
@@alexkulka8578 … he survived a very close call from Russian artillery and wisened up a bit.
It's the thermal vision on the t72 b3s, all those hiding in the bushes just light up like an Xmas tree - thank the French for those upgrades. Wali realised they didnt stand a chance
My opinion, as a Canadian, is that heavy weapons from factories with massive output of war machines is the way to win this one. A good sniper is not going to help in this situation, so its better for Wally to have made his exit. Vimy Ridge was not taken with snipers in WW1. It was a complex, innovative, internationally researched and supported operation, and that's what is going to be required to win here too.
Today lessons is,run back home if ur enemies have everything equal with u....dont act like rambo.....
They are not fighting civilians now they have to deal with the army
Lets be honest , theyve havnt actually faced a serious army before without any tactical support , now fighting an organised force with overwhelming fire support they turn tail and run , kinda shows them up for being ill prepared and gung-ho and theyve have had a very rude wake up call .
Wouldn't call Russia a very well organised force, but they do have a lot of artillery and fire support. Old soviet doctrine is just blanket an area indiscrimentally.
@@chrisgoldie5577 lol, Your opinion was noted. lmaoooo
u think that cauze the propaganda, funny how only russian losses where showed while ukraine lost territory and much more soldiers..
@@whitepride9153 Ukraine lost Crimea then Donbass
@@notoriousbig3k yes i guess. russia doesnt show how they kill ukraine soldiers cauze they have a moral standard…. like how sick are you to show ur kills on the internet… they dont show how they burried russian soldiers alive…. for that use gore sites… ukraine gets well deserved hell
If you are a US Citizen and you are not over there on an LOA than it’s ON YOU if you captured or killed
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Yes honestly those 2 who got captured have only themselves to blame. They should not have been there and should have at least fought to the death rather than get captured....
@Shankar Verma True Indeed! USA, USA 🇺🇸 🎉 and also sometimes absolutely very Stupid…🤷🏿 I Know and have served and worked with some of the Best of Both…”Don’t Confuse Bravery with Stupidity son, it’ll only get you killed” “ do your job and you’ll go home safe” “that flag ain’t bulletproof”
SFC Fields…….😂2003 Mad Dash Convoy from Kuwait…. North.. when we were told Turkey wouldn’t let us use their airspace..shit sucked
@@ebonymaw8457 Both were unconscious when captured!
@Shankar Verma you made me laugh 😃
The Westerners are historically super brave when it comes to "fighting" a bunch of Aborigines with rag hats and sandals. When it comes to fighting a real war - they squeal and run away.
It`s not funny when the enemy can fight back!
Bismarck knew the perils of interfering in East Europe.
The majority of soldiers in Ukraine, on either side, have not yet laid their eyes on an enemy soldier. This is a war of artillery, and artillery is the most terrifying type of attack to be subject to because it is so random, and you are so completely helpless.
its not exactly random when drones are watching everything..
@@notastone4832🤦🏻♂️ he's talking about artillery
Artillery is a mama in one war. Who owes artillery, winning the war.
true this is mostly attrition war, but they still see one another in small skirmishes
@@chipsgamingchannel1015, some do, but the majority do not.
I fought in Vietnam. Now at my age it doesn't matter what I do or what I say. The fog of war will always chase off those who thought war was all about flags, bands playing and pretty girls dropping their panties for a man in uniform. There is no description available for the details of battle. All are different but the same. There are many who simply get up and walk away...the few who remain will stand and fight like animals.
Petty girls 😂😂😁
As they are.
Many American soldiers fought valiantly, the death of viet commies are in millions. It is the viet Buddhist's demonstration on made-up suppression and lies that lead to the support of anti.war movement.
Remember, for 20 years and millions death the viet communists had not successfully taken any town, their forces were in Laos, and the vc had a life of cockroach, only showing up in the dark of the night to terrorize the peasants.
Panties 😂😂😂
Yeah war is terrible. Politicians should be the first ones in the front line
I guess fighting an enemy that can fire 60 000 artillery rounds per day it's a whole different game.
really?Here enemy have weapon not wooden sticks you "heroes"
"....I have never seen Russians in this war." If you have ever wondered what it meant fighting ghosts, well, there is your answer.
not as dramatic as it sounds. it only means, until now, it's been artillery, tanks, drones........ There is no hand to hand combat in war any more. Everyone is fighting from a distance.
@@DetroitMicroSound since u have spoken a lot of shit..now go to west and beg for more weapons..everyone in the west will be shown their true place wait for it
It means the Russian are relying more on their artillery. Since the infantry's regular fire support (tanks and self-propelled artillery) are constantly being taken out.
F them
The only ones you do see have been blown to hell & back ( not by hookers) Russia doesn't even let zRussian reporters tape them. What in gods name makes you think they will let outside reporters film !!!??? How many "participation trophies" do you own?
Reallity is NOT your friend here Casper
Fighting goat herders in the plains of Afghanistan is different from facing a well-equipped and capable military.
Fighting and loosing a war against goat herders then going to Ukraine .... Yeah, it is very different.
Western forces haven’t fought a conventional war since the Korean War . They are in over their heads
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Give the Ukrainian the same airpower and artillery as the Russians then see how tough the Russians are
The Ukrainian will wipe the floor with them
The only reason gayish french and coward British army won world war mainly because of society ussr currently russia and also colonial countries like India subcontinent supported these coward evil British empire like Hitler Germany with raw material and infinite army who mostly went on war with both nazi German soldiers and imperial army of japan
Currently we hope russia and china go head to head with usa and uk type west coward armies and the reality will be in front of all world to see how big pussy their army is and asian countries except terrorist supporting countries or slave of west must unite against both china communist and coward west imperialist like uk,France , Germany and usa
Also the muslim countries in middle East should stop acting as innocent victims of wars like asian countries like India, Vietnam,korea etc as majority of middle east countries had crazy Islamist fanatics leaders who destroyed many ancient civilizations due to greed and most of them supported Hitler Germany empire in world war and when they saw how Germany going to loose then most of them chickened out and pretended to be neutral 🤭
They aren't used to fighting technically capable enemies.
They are fighting Russia … 😂
Fighting an underdeveloped country is one thing and fighting an advanced military force quite another.
They are still fighting Russia aren’t they … the army that got also fucked up in Afghanistan whilst at the height of their power?
"I have never seen Russians in this war"
That is quite a statement, unlike from the media telling us the Ukranians are killing Russian soldiers like chickens. haha
yes, because many of them are dead, now the cowards use artillery and missiles to destroy everything, i thought they came to save people ?
That guy who spoke that appeared jovial and didn't realize the weight of his own statement. Many fighters were killed without ever seeing any Russian soldiers, either by artillery barrage, drone attack, rocket attack from ambush, thermobaric weapons etc. If anyone thought this is like Middle East which was really just a high school bully situation but against goat herders, they are sorely mistaken.
That is an art of war.🤣🤣🤣
@@tomaspskers1576 if you have a brain you know how to understand a ground battle. dmbassss
When this war started I considered joining the fight. Then I came to my damn senses and realized that would be suicide, fighting as a mercenary halfway across the world in a conflict that doesn’t materially affect my country
Smart man
@@yourmom705 I have a wife and my country is thousands of miles away from this war. Nobody is immune to propaganda but you have to remember what’s genuinely important
@@georgekostaras I agree 110% with you
Thank God you didn’t join the fight.... by now, you would have been a fertilizer in Ukraine 🌾
@@esekasunday1628 he still becomes a fertilizer, but in USA
those who don't know their history are doomed to rediscover how brutal a real war of fighting for your life really is... WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam. Survival is the name of the game and that is this war. The most determined will do what ever it takes to win this "WAR". This is not a "CONFLICT". Conflicts have rules... This is an all out WAR there are no Rules when your life is on the line Survival of the most determined will prevail at all costs... SSGT USMC ...Survivor...
How do you train for artillery fire? You know what prepares you for something you can only hear until it's right above you and even then most don't even see it because they're to busy running or ducking. You can train for just about any type of warfare but you can't defend yourself against a missile coming right at you....
Good point.
Dig.
ANSWER: because a counter-insurgency is not the same as main force combat when both sides are using the same types of weapons of war
@“Quasimodo” Bocanegra d'Alençon well,true but the insurgents didnt have access to high tech weapons, mass artillery nor did they have any thing that could of mitigated us or allied air power either and that made a major difference
@@BRANFED Who cares? They'd either fight or not
@@KamiTenchi huh? i just answered the question to the video.. that is all.. i cared enough too atleast reply and give my thoughts on the matter..
.. there is a difference between the two types of combat and must have a different mindset. I guess the western forces found it a bit different fighting actually trained soldiers with massive support elements than lightly equipped farmers, and civilians that might have a bit of training but probably not with no or very little support... now some of the insurgency fighters where battle hardened though and that is a force multiplier
.. All those former soldiers that fought in iraq/afghanastain thought the counter-insurgency was high intensity combat now knows it was not or not near as intense as main force combat with near-peers and advanced weapons.
Another kind of war, you mean your enemy is evenly matched?
Fighting against tanks,artillery and missiles is a different ball game altogether. It is not like fighting insurgents and rag tag guerillas.
What I love is if it were men wearing American flags on their uniforms to help the ethnic Russians they'd be heros. Answering the call from people who've been shelled for 8 years, had their water supply blocked to 2.5million people and who's coup government sent actual nazis to quell the unrest in the east who've been begging for help and someone finally came but because they're Russian they're war criminals. I guess America forgot about the 11million people we killed in the middle east, 90% of which were civilians. The west is disgusting and our populous blinded by a very nazi like propaganda apparatus that leaves them knowing less than nothing about anything
And they couldn’t even do that. After 20 years, never controlling more than 50% of the country, they get their as kicked so hard and fast, all the way into the airport, that they had to leave all their equipment behind.
@@davidbriggs8863 all US war objectives were achieved within first couple years in both Iraq and Afghanistan thus why it was announced wars were over... US remained to conduct peacekeeping missions and support these ppl till they got their shit together but they never did thus why we finally left... US was never going to baby set morons for eternity... US mil objectives in Afghanistan was never to eliminate the taliban though it should've been, still in the first few years US almost completely destroyed them all till it foolishly shifted to peacekeeping missions... US never lost anything in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other war... yes while many of these ppl were weak fighters many were also very strong fighters and to think otherwise means your completely ignorant
& yet the US still manage to lose when fighting a bunch of rag tag ill equiped poorly trained fighters with AK47's wearing sandals
Turns out that fighting an actual army isn't the same as sniping teens in the sand dunes.
Russias realizing that as well-ALTHOUGH......they're still indiscriminately bomb whatever the fck like they did in Syria so....
@ Total Tendies One must not forget that the russians did the same in the 80s and they were the largest army in the world
@@fightingstreet23 and got smashed
@@tommyatkins2527 exactly
@Z Im not spewing propaganda these are facts.... dont get the wrong idea
When I saw Ukrainian soldiers being trained in GB I wrote at that time: Russians are not playing paint-ball with you - they prefer playing heavy-metal. And I was laughed to ... some month later we saw the result.
First of all Russia is huge and climate is too hard so i request to the foreign soliders to stay safe at your home with your childrens. From India
This is what happens when you take Russia lightly
but but msnbc said they are running out of ammo and fighting with shovels almost 2 years ago. 🤣
American soldier: this war is nothing like Iraq and Afghanistan. This war is brutal.
Me: of course, because you were bombing them and they were getting bombed, but now you are being bombed. So, you would think it is brutal.
It is brutal because they are the ones dodging all the shells
Agree
EMMA AND HER TWO MOMS AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT
War always brutal, its just they are on the different side of the pew-pew. And they don't like it
Uno reverse
Well, it's easy being a mercenary in Iraq or Afghanistan, go here and show your courage 😅
less people volunteer to fight in a war, since they realized its possible to die or get captured in it?? wtf
Okay but what the hell were you expecting? Did you expect Russia to send civilians armed with pistols to fight you?
A Russian
Yes since most soldiers are using weapons from the 1960s, tanks that were built in the 1950s and artilleries. The American people are ready for war against the Russians let’s have it we all know Putin is a homosexual
@Johannes 黄皇唱 Looks like plot armour doesnt exist in real combat.
@@team_valentina_officiel3541 They must be stupid to think a Russian is going to be weak.
They expect the Russians will send Girls with perfumed....
In Iraq and Afghanistan western Army had a superity in terms of equipment and training meanwhile, in the Ukraine conflict same people are going against a trained Army of Russia which possesses better equipment and experience, tactics and the mighty artillery, which is known for the destruction from World war to the ongoing conflict.
@signalreturn563 what do you think NATO and US air forces be immune to S400-S550, if US and NATO had an advantage in this conflict they be in there like a dirty shirt, issue Russia isn’t Afghanistan your not against farmers that picked up AK-47s
@signalreturn563 NATO would be anhialated so no. NATO will stay clear and build up their capability on the sideline.
In those wars they were fighting against piecemeal armies where they brought overwhelming air superiority. Not sure how western armies would fare without airpower against armies of India, Pakistan or any other nation which gives brutal training to their infantries.. I thought I can include Russia but their army seems to be made of men drunk on Vodka.
YOU read TOO much Russian propaganda!
@@hercg1967 not to mention it mean ww3 and end of times
They faced an opponent that has no sandals, like the western Armies used to fight. 😂😂😂😂
Like you used to fight, and lost in half the time. Understand these are volunteers. Not an army, they don't have access to any equipment a army would.
@@Corbin97 Hahahah Russia lost half the times? Is that what they tell you in history, so you aren't scared to death the next time you face Russians in war 😂😂😂😂 where are you from? Tell me how often your country won against a potent enemy? 🤣
@@Corbin97 tell me those "half the times" please. I'd love to hear, what they teach you in schools 🤣
“…the moral of this story, the moral of this song is that one should never be where one does not belong.” Bob Dylan
They're used to fighting against taliban or iraqis who didnt have artillery or anything just AKs. Russia is nuclear powered country with strong air force and it actually sells weapons to other countries like China. Its not taliban.
They are used to fighting afghan farmers
So explain why Russia lost so many troops in Afghanistan,? USA UK France have nuclear 2nd strike capability, nearly all NATO members have battle field nukes. Are you saying you're so stupid you think any nuclear weapons used will not end in a uninhabitable world? Understand fiasco with Russians planes has now resulted in cancellations due to poor performance, technology still trying to catch up with pizza delivery
and they'll get smoked by the western nations if they fuck around, they'll find out.
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The Iraqi did have artillery,tanks, airpower but it got wiped out
Those volunteers watched too many war movies hence the Shock in reality 😂
Internet war games. 🤣🤣🤣
They thought they were going on a turkey shoot and found out they were going to have to wrestle a Russian bear
Yall are speaking too much when unlike them you havent even left your house in who knows how long. At least they went there.
@@coravasicorava3400 and had cold feet .
I Agree with you man
I served in the U.S. Army Infantry before the war in Ukraine and the entire time i thought if we had to fight in a real war, we are totally fucked. Our troops are not prepared one bit for real combat.
Looks like they have "seen the light" !!
my brother is serving, volunteers aren’t shown mercy and are often beaten and not taken prisoner, and if they are they will likely be killed/jailed
BAD LUCK CHOOSING TO FIGHT IN A LOSE LOSE SITUATION AND FOR THE WRONG SIDE. the US helped Ukraine to start the war!!!!!!!!!!! Check it out.
They realised that the enemy had decent fire power and had decent army. In other wars they had the advantage, hardly any resistance
他们想去体会战争的快乐,血腥的杀戮。还能赚钱。但是没有想到对手是强大的。
@@xingliu2154 what money?
@@affectionatepunch Söldner kämpfen fürs GELD nicht aus nächste Liebe
YOU MEAN "SUPERIOR FIRE" AND "SUPERIOR ARMY"
WW1 and 2 also Korea never really had the advantage at all like the Australian army reserves who defeated the Japanese in PNG with only 6 weeks of training.