I once had a game where I colonised L-space, then abandoned the 'mortal' galaxy behind. Basically, I built a bunch of Ringworlds etc in L-space, gave away the rest of my empire. It was fun watching the tyranids then invade and consume the galaxy, while I remained safe within my demi-plane
I should probably add I was both extremely lucky, and also kind of a dick. I did not get grey tempest, I got nothing so I was able to colonize that space for free. Second of all, I had set crisis strength to 5x for shits and giggles, so yeah the galaxy died
>be 70 years in >two seperate fleets at each end of territory, about 5k each >two L-Gates in my space >Get insights >"sweet" >straight to the gate >open it >science ship immediately eats it >30k fleet spawns inside my territory >welp Seems a bit funny to have a potentially game ending scenario able to happen before I even have tier 4 weapons.
- be me 130 years in - one thicc fleet, 120k, mostly corvettes - all tech researched, about 5 in each repeatable - tech-ed up way too well, midgame begins in 20 fucking years, might as well vibe into the cluster - open L gate - x5 crisis that doesn't really affect gray tempest, mods - gray tempest in cluster - multiple 40k fleets warp in - ohno.jpg - half my fleet _melts_ because you need powerful capital ships to fight tempest on even ground - rebuild my fleet with titans + battleships setup - exterminate all the 40k fleets - 155k fleet warps in - OHNO.jpg - 155k fleet annihilates me - 20 years later - half the galaxy is _gone_, my only fleet is fighting 155k stacks one after the other, barely winning - AI sends 2 155k stacks with only 30 days delay inbetween, my fleet dies - game over
@@letroll8954 Actually the Tempest prioritizes cap ships. The best fleet combo is a mix of 'vettes and destroyers. Plus the Tempest has a primary armament of missiles so PD can block it.
@@gatedude07 my experience was the opposite, I beat the GT with mostly battleships and Titans, destroyers gives you a nightmare of an attrition rate. Took the GT factory with two titans 20 battleships and a Juggernaut. Sent the Juggernaut in first as it can take a lot of hits, then sent the fleet led by two Titans in, won with effectively no casualties.
+Joseph Cola Endless Space has a resource called Dust, basically it's a widespread nanomachines left from precursor race all over the galaxy. And as universal and highly advanced nanomachines would obviously end up being, they're used for everything, even being a sort of currency between empires at large.
but dust is sorta cosmic nanites cause they made them from studying cosmicly charged normally non sentient crystals called the harmony so there even more advanced then the grey as the grey are soild matter only dust would sorta be like if the unbidden made nanites but there not sentient or hostile and explains why some dust users can outright replicate magic with it endless legend or even create a consciuss planet if it somehow because part of planets natural ecosystem the only instant of it is auria in endless space but even then the conscuness created the guardians which are essentially nature titans or nature gods to defend itself but the endless were a tier zero race so even gods failed stop them
The L-Cluster itself is a nice strategic point. In one of my most memorable runs, I played as a tall empire which focussed on science and technological prowess. However i didnt like to join one of the federations and later when the two remaining federations fought a galaxy-wide war, I unlocked the L-Cluster and quickly claimed it before someone else did. Later when the war went on and relations with both factions went downhill I managed to move my entire empire into the L-Cluster (pops included). Terminal Ingress was so heavily fortified that no one could charge in without getting blasted into shreds.
I was playing multiplayer and opened it in 2250. It was the tempest and with the help of everyone in the lobby, including the Fanatic Purifier we destroyed it by 2260. It was a 25 player game, and the lesson I learned was to open the L-Gates in the mid-late game, not in 2250. As a side effect of this the players in the lobby decided to banish me to the L-Cluster as punishment for releasing the Grey Tempest. I became the Guardian of the Gates, and basically sat back and watched as the galaxy burned with my megastructure spam and mega citadel.
@@llamaboioflusatia Once upon a time there was a empire that once existed in this galaxy they continued to thrive, but then their curiosity got the better of them, they opened a forbidden gateway to another space that was not part of the galaxy , A cluster of planets and stars which seemed to be housed by a race that is so powerful they almost wiped out the galaxy, it took the combined efforts of all the empires in the galaxy to destroy them once and for all. Due to their actions they have been banished to the cluster that once housed the race that almost wiped out the galaxy, that was named L-cluster. Which they will spent their entire lives living inside it with no hope to ever escape from it, thousands of years passed by, people started to grew curious at what the race they banished in the cluster were doing, so they sent a scouting fleet to see what they were doing once they opened the gate they were met with dozens of high tech fleets far more powerful than they are. Due to their fear they hurriedly closed the gate, then they named them Guardian of the Gates . (Sorry for my shitty story
When I got the Gray Tempest from activating a L-gate I didn't realize they spawned from another L-gate, a 32k fleet craved a nice straight line towards my capital for a few years until I realized what was going on.
I got this event when I only had a 5k fleet. NOBODY could handle them, and there was a bug where I had no option but to trigger the event. The game devolved into trying to survive as fleets ran rampant throughout the galaxy, splintering my empire and everyone else’s as well. It’s been rough but I’m almost strong enough to take the fight to them now.
I had a similar situation, but my tech was so absurdly far above everyone else that I had Citadels with like 35k fleet power. Just stuck a few at the L-gate and the 3 entryways to my empire and watched as the other empires dropped like flies.
I got the "empty" scenario when I first accessed the L- Cluster. Which surprised me so much that I thought it was a glitch, having expected to fight the Gray Tempest. Then I made the L-Cluster the heart of my empire. Proved to be easily defended when the Contingency started up its shenanigans. Also, I wish that, if the L-Cluster was found empty, you could find the nanite factory and reactivate it for some sweet nanite fleets. Seriously that shipset is sexy.
Asurans? Were L-Cluster nanites also given short end of the stick by authors and Mr.McKay just to replace previous enemy in new location despite them being potentially greatest allies in whole series?
Honestly that sounds fun, like a machine empire based origin. "Replicators: You are a race of machines evolved from a mindless swarm of nanomachines. Exiled from the galaxy, you must manage your time until the Gates open once more."
That Mechanic where the gate you open is safe, but the others aren't which I find a little counter intuitive, can catch you out. I opened one on the fringe of my empire, expecting that to be the incursion point, only for the threat to pour out of another gate within my core empire. Watch out for that mistake.
Le Derp Français It told me before hand that the gates would wake up but implied it wouldn't be instant taking a matter of years ( the text is on screen in the video this comment chain is in reply too ) Instead the network instantly comes online and only told me AFTER I opened the gate that my scientists had closed of the one specific gate I opened, blockimg access from the other side making it safe. It warns you the network will be brought back online across the galaxy, it doesn't warn you that the one gate you open is the only one that the threat won't come through. Irony of people telling me I can't be bothered to read when they can't even correctly refer to the text in reference even when it's shown on screen in the video you are supposed to have watched...
20-30 k fleet strength is somewhat weak for this, did it today and if you want to finish this you better get more than 200 k because they seem to respawn there fleets and you have alone in the last fight whit the factory to fight over 200 k from them.
I only had 30k-ish fleet power when I opened the L-gate the first time, had some trouble against multiple fleets, but 1v1 I handled them pretty well despite having a very generally balanced fleet. Once I got a foothold in Terminal Egress with a station to repair at and a few allies (who were all either inferior or pathetic compared to me) I didn't find it that hard to take out the factory. When I beat the Tempest I had a 40k unspecialized fleet, but if you specialize your fleet to counter them you should be able to do it pretty well with 30-40k fleet power
Trygve Borgen Yeah, he does just say "i recomend you have 20-30k fleet power *before you open"* - I took that as more of a caution, since if you're lucky you can open L-gates in the earlygame.. I think if you *really* wanted to get rid of it, you'd need 200k but for defence, you'd be fine
Dr. Ghoztz Boy am I lucky I didn’t incur the wrath of the grey goo when I did mine. I went into this story pack without any spoilers and I was lucky enough to get an L-Cluster with no idea of the dangers I was potentially unleashing. Fortunately the L Cluster was empty and I was able to claim the whole thing for myself which was probably a relief not just for me but the entire galaxy, considering no one had even broken 10k in fleet power by the time I cracked it.
I opened it and had about 2k, needless to say when I saw four fleets of 20k-30kish I just decided to take a break from my computer for a bit. RIP the human race, may you please your gray overlords.
I found the Grey Tempest to be harder to beat than the contingency in my only playthrough of both. I ended up having to resort to fortifying the shit out of terminal egress just so I could maintain a foothold since these guys have one shoal in each system, a couple of shoals patrolling (can often lead to 3 shoals in a system) and the factory replaces each dead fleet at a set time after the fleet's destruction (up to what appears to be a maximum rate of production). and slowly working my way from system to system to get to the factory. Another Important note that ASpec missed is that you cannot see into the adjoining systems no matter what. I had enigmatic technology ascendancy perk and I still had to sacrifice science ships just so I could use the hyper lanes for my main fleet. even when I set up a listening post in terminal egress I still could not see into adjoining systems.
Well you can actually see into the system without the need to sacrifice a science ship and a scientist. I open the gate during late game (afraid of triggering the tempest without the ability to stop them), when I had a sentry array. The Sentry array allows you to see all the systems without sacrificing science ships. But since this is usually supposed to be earlier then megastructures I guess that method is difficult to pull off.
I did eventually figure out that I could get active sensor agreements with AI who I had open borders with, and a few of the systems were discovered by suicidal AI science ships although each empire would only send one until I had cleared the system. but hey it saved me a few scientists
With right fleet composition i found them rather easy to beat even when they had bigger fleet power. Only exception was the station, there my 35K fleet really wasn't enough
@@StarboyXL9 Unfortunately there are no in game mechanics to prevent AI from opening L-gates (although my AI only opened them once during the 200h 2.0 gameplay time I have) I know there are a sub mod under a major mod that could stop AI from opening the gates: One of the sub mods that add origin empire (A super op AI empire that can crush 5x Grand admiral difficulty crisis without breaking a sweat) to the major mod Zenith of fallen empires, this sub mod have an option to prevent AI from researching tech necessary to open L-gates. (Although this is only for player who do not want the origin empire to emerge too early, just as vanilla player who do not want tempest to appear too early) But you need the major mod for the sub mod first, and the major mod itself add in tons of new techs like weapons and modules and abilities to build fallen empire buildings, but with that mod you can not play vanilla of course.
Wilma Perkins I might have better luck, since I have a 50k fleet, but I'm in the middle of unfriendly territory (The former Khan Empire to my north weat, Fanatic Purifiers to my North East, a fallen Empire to my south east, and a Maurader Empire to my South West). There are a few Wormholes and a whole bunch of Gateways, so I have some wiggle room, but no one is willing to ally with me and go through the L-Gate.
Ah, this was the first thing I stumbled across when I opened the L-Cluster. Was a nice surprise to stumble upon more friendly robots who were so friendly in fact that they provided some target practice.
None of that happened to me. I just opened the gate, there was nothing there and so i built mines and research stations and habitats there . . It made for a good little hidey hole when the scurge came for the galaxy
I did a more radical version of that. Before entering the L gate I made a pact with the end of cycle, used my super powers to conquer the gray tempest and build loads of habitats and ring worlds there (but didn't occupy them). Since I was a gaia world civ, and gaia worlds are super rare, when the "reckoning" event triggered my exile planet was one of the habitats - from which I occupied the rest of the cluster and became basically W40k's eldar, living in habitats (and a ring world) on the "warp".
Yeah that happened to me too. I opened it on year 2240 and theres nothing in there but resources and other empires are giving me 5k-15k per resources so its good too :)
I started this 50 years into the game and I had 3 l-gates in my territory (turned up gate spawn rates) so it was hell. it caused all the non xenophobic empires to form a federation with me. (And yes the tempest came out of the other two l-gates)
First time the other two L-gates were on the opposite side of the galaxy. They took out my rivals and it wasn’t until 70 years later that they came even close to my empire
had this on my first play-through in distant stars. i was so happy to see what was on the other side. ended up throwing hundreds of corvettes and destroyers at them over 80 years (2260-2340) until i finally killed the factory.
Taking control of the Terminal Eggress then putting your biggest, most heavily armed space station there is a huge strategic edge, I might even say more so than the amazing resources. The ability to thus send your fleets throughout the galaxy via L-Gates is amazing.
VERY IMPORTANT If one of their fleets enter a system containing a planet with an FTL inhibitor, they will quickly turn it into a nanite world. I lost my capital this way! If you open the gate too early by mistake you must avoid doing the above! Their fleets will repeatedly patrol the same paths, so don't bother rebuilding any star bases they take out. Once you have enough fleet power to kill one of their fleets focus on building bases capable of repelling them at all L-gates/points of entry. Only go through the gate when you can kill at least 2 of their fleets together.
In one of my playthroughs there were planets near the black hole system that had nanite bots on them (ocean of nanites, nanite filled caves etc.) it was probably hinting at the tempest but never got that far in. Anyone else noticed this?
Yes, in recent versions events featuring nanite residues give you L-gate insights. A different play through, I had none of them, most likely they were surveyed by AI empires
There is a fourth strategic resource available in the L-Cluster, which are Gray Actuators. These buff all types of research speed by 10%. Also, the most effective way of dealing with the Tempest ships are by far corvette+destroyer swarms. Torpedo corvettes with disruptors and Destroyers with full point defence allow you to shut down their strike craft, while your torpedo corvettes to significant damage to their large ships that have no point defence. Furthermore, the titan weapon that the mothership uses can oneshot ANY combat ship that is not a titan, as it penetrates 100% of armour and shields. When using corvette/destroyer swarms it minimises the effect of this weapon as you are only losing one of many small ships. Using this setup I managed to defeat the Gray Tempest with 4 fleets of 60 corvettes and 20 destroyers each, with a total fleet power of approximately 150K
Shame that the Gray Tempest being defeated isn't an achievement, since just doing this was fun, though using a federation fleet to do most of the work helped!
In my game each fleet from the L gate was 64k in strength and they usually appeared in each L gate location. I had to use 160k with 5 titans to take over the first sector in the L cluster. Used the Titans to snipe the enemy Titan like ship. Every system in the L cluster had 2-3 64k fleets guarding it and they kept sending 64k fleets to the system I took over to try and take it back. Their main system however was a nightmare. 6 64k fleets were guarding it with an extremely power station on top. Needed massive effort to take it down. Now I have a bunch of Great habitable planets that I terraformed to gaia worlds in the L cluster where I'll move my capital while I plot my take over of the galaxy. >:-) .
So I opened my when I only at 10kish fleet power, send help. Update: After 10+ hours I finally beat them, I ended up sending 1 Titan and 200ish corvets to kill them.
Update: spent the last 6 hours slowly crying in a hole, I can now defend their attacks and the debris that is left behind has boosted me to be the most technological advance race. I was also luck since there was only one l-gate near me and they don't come through it, and theirs only one entrance to my domain, now to spend another 6 hours slowly trying to kill them
I was able to open the Gate when my Empire was very weak and there is nothing inside but planets but a Dragon when out from the gate though. I didn't have this event.
ASpec I mean it was kind of an interesting sci-fi concept of a society trapped in deep space while their Galaxy was cleansed Built a bunch of habitats and a ring world
This could have been done in a Mass effect Reaper invasion, just wait there in silence and the galaxy will be yours for 50,000 years. They should make a crisis similar to the Reapers actually....
So, that's the system that will be fortified by "flower of fortresses"(if it is still possible since devs are constantly making it harder to put several into the same system at all)
You can upgrade and outfit your outposts from little starbases to heavily armed Citadels. If I remember correctly, a "maxed" Citadel can easily reach 40k fleet power and I haven't taken all the relevant Ascension perks which could further boost their strength.
Curiously the AI empires I've encountered all try the damn hardest to fortify any L-Gate system in their borders with citadels. Clearly the devs programed them to have some means of at least slowing down the Grey Tempest
ChaosSandwhich why wouldn't they? It's basically an "I win" button if used right. Time it right and you'll get free access to all territories of your enemies right after they were beaten by those nanites. Move in and finish them off at your own leisure!
I remember my first contact with them, i went in with a balanced fleet, yeah, lets talk about that There were 5 nanite fleets in there, meedless to say, i was forced to retreat, wasnt willing to lose my titan, then i went to the planning board, i sent in a constructor ship there to look what i would need to build, my choice? Shield over armour, with destroyers and corvets with Flaks, after building my fleet it had 1 titan with hull regen bonus, 5 Battleships 10 cruisers (the mothership with the 1-9999 weapon was always one shotting my cruisers and battleships) 30 destroyers and 30 corvets, both with flaks and picket computers, with that, i was easily able to just drive by every system they had, i just had problem dealing with the factory later on, because my ships would just rush to the center and be focused by everything in the system, so i just built a starbase on the system before, i would jump in, destroy as many ships as i could, and when my fleet got to the center, i would retreat them, and did that process a few times, it was fun, kinda, i liked the story behind it, just felt a bit... underwhelming? I feel like they could be stronger, specially because boy, the systems you can colonize is just a huge income boost.
For me the Tempests never left their L gate systems more than once. Kinda disappointing and they had like 200k fleet power just sitting there at one point and could probably of steamrolled the galaxy.
Mine just stayed around the L-gates they came out of and never went anywhere else. I just ended up taking the L cluster and leaving those for everybody else to kill.
Yeah, when this came out, I really wanted to see what the L-Gate did, so I rushed to open it. The most powerful fleet in the galaxy at the time was 12k, no one could fight it. I single-handedly wiped out the galaxy, including myself. Oops.
I had two games with nanite fleets spawned and one without. With the current performance issue caused by the L-cluster, I found that if you don't have significant lag prior to opening the gates, it means there's no hostiles in the L-cluster.
The Devs missed the boat on the Nanite weapon systems. Clearly, some kinetic weapons would be appropriate, which would INFECT your own ships on hit, gradually reducing their effectiveness and then, if you don't destroy the Mother ship in a timely manner, turning them against you. Beats generic damage dealers in conveying the special characteristics of this menace. ='[.]'=
huh that could work but it wouldnt control ships the grey goo would eat your ship and repair itself or make more it would encourage a shield based fleet strategy as the grey goo would eat threw armour quicker the any acid but shields are energy which the grey cant consume so theyd have to break though to get to the armour
Maybe if they destroy a ship, or enough resource equivalent, they could reinforce in fight. And there should be weapons that deal damage overtime due to that.
in my first playtrought i activated the L gates too soon.. my biggest fleet had 6k power, lets say noone in the galaxy stood a chance as i played without fallen empires
I played my first encounter with the nanite ships a bit slower. I taghed the initial invasion fleets (had control of 3 of the 4 gates that spawned), made a beachhead in the egress, and then over the course of a few years gametime, all the fleets had come to the egress one at a time. Not sure if the factory was producing any replacements, but if it was, the pace was just way to slow to keep up with my advance into the L cluster
I used three fleets to secure the first system you jump into. One at each gate seems to hold them off pretty well as they continue to spawn fleets and send them in. The reason I do it this way is so, i can farm the tech, so my science ship can (hopefully) scan the entire first system, then my const ship can quickly build a outpost. Once thats done my opponents, unless they are at war, can no longer enter said system and im free to clear the systems. Although I didnt know all ya needed to do was go directly to the base. Seems much more efficient your way Aspec ^^. Biggest drawback even after defeating the event is now any enemy you have can and will attack that system to get the advantage of the Lgate system. Also, the lag after you open a gate is horrid. Its why many players ive seen in the forums and reddit just avoid the event entirely. Im not sure if the ai players can open the gates though.
actually it might be like living metal you can discover deposits of it in events but they wont show up on your map tell you get the tech to use it i guess discovering tehm in the l cluster lets you see it in the rest of the galaxy all the nanite events that give you insight will probably have grey dust on them
then you are lucky, the cluster can be one of the following: >Infested with the grey tempest (common) >dead but with terraformable worlds >dead with broken worlds >L Dragon???!!!! (rarest)
i have yet ti get a game where the tempest don't invade and its 3 of my playthroghs cause open to early thinking to myself i wont be that unlucky it wont happen multiply times in a row how wrong i was
One of the ai empires opened the one L gate in our galaxy at year 70 and the nost powerful fleet was only 5k, the ai empire that opened it was of course completely obliterated but the tempest was distracted enough to allow me to build up a fleet that can take theirs out one at a time
Just this, a 40% chance of it being empty and a 10% chance of an ether drake out of leviathans coming out with he empire that opens it having the option to tame it.
In my playthrough (I got to the L-cluster, but there were no hostile fleets) I found another strategic resource called the gray actuators which provided a +10% bonus to research.
There is a lot of variation in this event. The first time I came across it. There were only 2 l gates in the whole galaxy (medium) and they were next to me. I opened mine quite early and the event said it will be a while before other gates open. There were no ships of any kind in the L cluster and it was mine to claim! And had its insane bonuses for the rest of the game. The second time , I accessed the l cluster and there were immediately 4 28k fleets, the biggest fleet I could build then was 10k and I only had 3 fleets. And there was lot more once I managed to get into the cluster .All I could do was defend my gate while I let other empires crumble the humans got wiped out. And i built up some better tech and after taking the first L gate star system, the fleets in the main cluster started making their way back to the l cluster where I destroyed them one at a time.
I did not know this one was even a thing. I was just super excited to get access to a L-cluster. I had like a fleet of maybe 9K if I put them all together. I opened the gate around the early mid-game and then was wiped off the galactic map. R.I.P. that empire of mine.
I remember using a mod that basically turned my empire into a weaker Grey Tempest. Ironically, I got the Grey Tempest. I had significant fleet power, because I opened it after midgame. It took years, but I finally built my fleets up strong enough to charge the nanite factory. One of my allies was shattered in to pieces from their L-Gate. They and my allies were very weak.
A good way to clear the Factory is to build as many corvettes as possible. I did it with aound 220 with a fleet power of 45k split on 2 Fleets. The Tempest Fleets have also no way to repair themself and the reinforcement will always roam around the system and later go to the Terminal System to attack. When a Fleet in the Factory System or any other L-Cluster System is destroyed or damaged it will not be rebuild/repaired. My Corvettes had like 80-90% dodge and also Flak on them. The strategy is to swarm them, do as much damage as possible and flee with your Fleets as soon as you can. Rebuild your Fleet afterwards. I lost around 60 on the first attack and killed 4 of their cruisers after the 2nd engagement i only lost 45. The Ships that survived get also a good chunk of xp which will boost you power by quite a lot. After every Fight you will kill more of them and lose less ships. I cleared it after 7 engagements with a total fleet power of 45k! :-)
i got a different event with the L-gate where the grey swarm had merged into one "being" and joined me i could change him into a leader(really good), a 50 to 60 K fleet power ship (cant remember exactly), and a army unit. side note the grey swarm told me to call it "the grey" i don't know if any else has had this but i have only had it once
I had this event happen on me while my combined fleets were strong enough to take out a single of the nanite fleets. However, when I sent one of them back for repairs I was toast... They started invading a part of my empire and one of an ally (which I assume was the reason they wanted to be in a protectorate). Luckily this event did lead to me forming a federation with another empire and finally with a fleet of 130k I destroyed that factory. What works really well is slowly crawling inside the l cluster while constructing starbases with shipyards. This makes sure reinforcement can be mustered quickly and repairs performed quickly as well.
I'll tell you something from my yesterdays gameplay. I opened L gate, and there was just another systems for me. I took over all of them besides one, and then pirates from my empire spawned in that one system.
i didn't even know this could happen from the l-gates i have been opening them on every playthrough and they are empty free systems each time. i didn't realise i was rolling the cosmic dice and got lucky each time.
20 to 30k. Never ever will I open that thing without 200k fleet power. The grey tempest just killed the whole galaxy and I managed to maintain it after it started in the middle of the Great Khan crisis. After all this, there were 3 Ai empires left and me. The whole galaxy... just an empty map with 24k fleets everywhere.
it was bugged for me, most L gate systems spawned a fleet or two and then proceeded to move about 3 systems away from the gates and then stopped moving completely, they stayed like that until i was able to build a big enough fleet to take out the factory myself later on
Both this one and the unbidden both got rect by a 2mio fleet power empire in my galaxy :D So much effort into preparing myself for the endgame when you litterely have an empire sweeping them all underneath the carbet before they get to touch you.
Opened L Gate early, got the Grey Tempest, they went straight for the Marauder Empire and delt with a huge pain in my ass. Gave me enough time to build up my fleets to take the fight to them
So funny story, I activated the l gate and got gray tempest and by then I had a 60k fleet so I wasn't that worried until I realized that there was multiple l gates so they went to the other ones and absolutely wrecked the galaxy by the time I got the courage to go into the system the only empires remaining are me, my allies (one died) and the fallen empires. so I go there conquer everything except the factory built a citadel out side of the system then got 3 fleets, each 70-100k power then attacked so I singe handedly screwed over the galaxy and now the fallen are inferior. Now should I attack them?
i've started about 5 games since the dlc came out, 4 of them i didn't get any event out of the L cluster (gave me a false sense of security that the event was rare), this most recent one i immediately got the Tempest event and got my 1k fleet power ass handed to me
Grey Tempest!! A fun game in the end. I did the Shard the Dragon quest and got the artefact then began my L gate research. However a neighbour beat me to finishing it and unleashed the Grey Tempest, biggest fleet nearby other than my own was about 5 or 6K, so the first GT fleet just deleted most of that empire cut mine in half and bombed my home-world to grey goo. Was going to quit the game my son is in tears (cursed iron man mode) but I managed to destroy them.
It was 2250, 3 nanite fleets carving through my friend and I'm running out of time, friend builds fortress world with a dying wish of wanting to buy me some time, 10 years later and his fortress world gets destroyed leaving him with one planet, boom my 40k fleet appears outta nowhere and picks out the gray tempest fleets one by one saving both of our lives, I then split our resource gain so he can make a comeback... endgame crisis kills us cuz I had it set to 10x for some reason
The game wouldn't let me survey the system containing the gate in the cluster, so I couldn't get the resources, but my god there were many other science ships swipping about to get the good stuff.
just opened one of these blind with 2 fleets of 30k, managed to hold them off until i was one of the last empires but they eventually gobbled everything up. It was so cool.
I only opened the L gate with two 90+k fleets and a 200 torpedo corvette swarm standing by. They ain't doing much consuming nowadays And the resources let me gobble up the closest FE which is nice.
I'm not sure if it is a but or if the cluster did not spawn during my play though. TL:DR, I was the first to open the gate. But a weaker empire that I was just beating into the ground managed to snag the Terminal before me.
Had no idea this is what happens. To be fair, I had about 60k total manpower at the start so not totally helpless, but completely screwed when I realized all of their fleets were 88k+. Spending almost all of my resources because I’m the only nation that can even somewhat stand toe to toe with them, wish me luck
The L-cluster, grey tempest (24k), was my mid-game crisis..... A bit of advice, be very careful when queueing up special projects. It was an interesting game, especially because I was able to beat it back. I also found an additional resource of grey actuators which gave +10% reaserch speed.
I had 4 L-Gates in my territory and was ready for defending my space with a 30k fleet and citadel at each one. Once activated they came through 3 gates and were disposed of with around a 10k loss to each of my fleets. Not even a few months later another Tempest fleet arrived at the 3 gates with one of them bringing alongside with it the Mothership. Needless to say I was crushed☹️ Do you think it’s fair that a 30k enemy fleet can spawn at the gates every few months?
Yeah I got this one the second time we played with DS. We had to restart cause one of the other players opened the L-gate 60 years in which no one had nearly enough fleet power to deal with them. lol
They main system didn't show up in my game until I finished building the Sensor array mega structure. so i had to keep fighting them off until it was finished.
I somehow triggered this event when the strongest fleet in the galaxy was less than 5k. There goes the galaxy.
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same they just started carving everyone up
Phino Fernandez lol me too
Same
I once had a game where I colonised L-space, then abandoned the 'mortal' galaxy behind. Basically, I built a bunch of Ringworlds etc in L-space, gave away the rest of my empire. It was fun watching the tyranids then invade and consume the galaxy, while I remained safe within my demi-plane
I'll have to try this.
Can the swarm go through the gate?
No, as far as I know end crisis cannot use ANY gates. They can however use wormholes.
I should probably add I was both extremely lucky, and also kind of a dick. I did not get grey tempest, I got nothing so I was able to colonize that space for free. Second of all, I had set crisis strength to 5x for shits and giggles, so yeah the galaxy died
Offer vassalization to everyone so you can get resources out of them while they are destroyed.
>be 70 years in
>two seperate fleets at each end of territory, about 5k each
>two L-Gates in my space
>Get insights
>"sweet"
>straight to the gate
>open it
>science ship immediately eats it
>30k fleet spawns inside my territory
>welp
Seems a bit funny to have a potentially game ending scenario able to happen before I even have tier 4 weapons.
Im fine with it. It fits with the idea of a cold uncaring universe that has secrets best left alone sometimes
You opened it, now deal with the consequences.
- be me 130 years in
- one thicc fleet, 120k, mostly corvettes
- all tech researched, about 5 in each repeatable
- tech-ed up way too well, midgame begins in 20 fucking years, might as well vibe into the cluster
- open L gate
- x5 crisis that doesn't really affect gray tempest, mods
- gray tempest in cluster
- multiple 40k fleets warp in
- ohno.jpg
- half my fleet _melts_ because you need powerful capital ships to fight tempest on even ground
- rebuild my fleet with titans + battleships setup
- exterminate all the 40k fleets
- 155k fleet warps in
- OHNO.jpg
- 155k fleet annihilates me
- 20 years later
- half the galaxy is _gone_, my only fleet is fighting 155k stacks one after the other, barely winning
- AI sends 2 155k stacks with only 30 days delay inbetween, my fleet dies
- game over
@@letroll8954 Actually the Tempest prioritizes cap ships. The best fleet combo is a mix of 'vettes and destroyers. Plus the Tempest has a primary armament of missiles so PD can block it.
@@gatedude07 my experience was the opposite, I beat the GT with mostly battleships and Titans, destroyers gives you a nightmare of an attrition rate.
Took the GT factory with two titans 20 battleships and a Juggernaut.
Sent the Juggernaut in first as it can take a lot of hits, then sent the fleet led by two Titans in, won with effectively no casualties.
There's a fourth unique strategic resource in the L-Cluster: Gray Actuators, which give +10% research speed.
Nanomachines? Dust?
TheArklyte gonna have to be more specific than that.
its more nanite soup then cosmic mineral so the nanites arnt quite as good as the endlesses dust
+Joseph Cola
Endless Space has a resource called Dust, basically it's a widespread nanomachines left from precursor race all over the galaxy. And as universal and highly advanced nanomachines would obviously end up being, they're used for everything, even being a sort of currency between empires at large.
but dust is sorta cosmic nanites cause they made them from studying cosmicly charged normally non sentient crystals called the harmony so there even more advanced then the grey as the grey are soild matter only dust would sorta be like if the unbidden made nanites but there not sentient or hostile
and explains why some dust users can outright replicate magic with it endless legend or even create a consciuss planet if it somehow because part of planets natural ecosystem the only instant of it is auria in endless space but even then the conscuness created the guardians which are essentially nature titans or nature gods to defend itself but the endless were a tier zero race so even gods failed stop them
The L-Cluster itself is a nice strategic point. In one of my most memorable runs, I played as a tall empire which focussed on science and technological prowess. However i didnt like to join one of the federations and later when the two remaining federations fought a galaxy-wide war, I unlocked the L-Cluster and quickly claimed it before someone else did. Later when the war went on and relations with both factions went downhill I managed to move my entire empire into the L-Cluster (pops included). Terminal Ingress was so heavily fortified that no one could charge in without getting blasted into shreds.
You basically made Cammoragh from 40k. So small and detached from everyone else, but impossible to invade.
This has been my goal since I discovered the L Cluster
I opened it in 2260. My curiosity doomed the galaxy.
I opened mine in 2243. Please help
Similar time for me bye everyone
I was playing multiplayer and opened it in 2250. It was the tempest and with the help of everyone in the lobby, including the Fanatic Purifier we destroyed it by 2260. It was a 25 player game, and the lesson I learned was to open the L-Gates in the mid-late game, not in 2250. As a side effect of this the players in the lobby decided to banish me to the L-Cluster as punishment for releasing the Grey Tempest. I became the Guardian of the Gates, and basically sat back and watched as the galaxy burned with my megastructure spam and mega citadel.
Close to opening in 2236. Going to wait, fortify, and cruiser spam to the limit before opening.
@@llamaboioflusatia Once upon a time there was a empire that once existed in this galaxy they continued to thrive, but then their curiosity got the better of them, they opened a forbidden gateway to another space that was not part of the galaxy , A cluster of planets and stars which seemed to be housed by a race that is so powerful they almost wiped out the galaxy, it took the combined efforts of all the empires in the galaxy to destroy them once and for all. Due to their actions they have been banished to the cluster that once housed the race that almost wiped out the galaxy, that was named L-cluster. Which they will spent their entire lives living inside it with no hope to ever escape from it, thousands of years passed by, people started to grew curious at what the race they banished in the cluster were doing, so they sent a scouting fleet to see what they were doing once they opened the gate they were met with dozens of high tech fleets far more powerful than they are. Due to their fear they hurriedly closed the gate, then they named them Guardian of the Gates . (Sorry for my shitty story
When I got the Gray Tempest from activating a L-gate I didn't realize they spawned from another L-gate, a 32k fleet craved a nice straight line towards my capital for a few years until I realized what was going on.
Are they supposed to do that? In my game they just stood in the Systems the L gates are in.. probably lucky for all the other empires tho^^
had 3 nanite fleets enter my empire in 2275.. It went great
I got this event when I only had a 5k fleet. NOBODY could handle them, and there was a bug where I had no option but to trigger the event. The game devolved into trying to survive as fleets ran rampant throughout the galaxy, splintering my empire and everyone else’s as well. It’s been rough but I’m almost strong enough to take the fight to them now.
I had a similar situation, but my tech was so absurdly far above everyone else that I had Citadels with like 35k fleet power. Just stuck a few at the L-gate and the 3 entryways to my empire and watched as the other empires dropped like flies.
Same
I got the "empty" scenario when I first accessed the L- Cluster. Which surprised me so much that I thought it was a glitch, having expected to fight the Gray Tempest.
Then I made the L-Cluster the heart of my empire. Proved to be easily defended when the Contingency started up its shenanigans.
Also, I wish that, if the L-Cluster was found empty, you could find the nanite factory and reactivate it for some sweet nanite fleets. Seriously that shipset is sexy.
It would be intresting if this became a playable race and you had to break out of the L Cluster.
Edit: I am getting Asuran/Replicator vibes.
William Strand Just for the aesthetic alone in would want that. The ships look really nice for this event faction.
Asurans? Were L-Cluster nanites also given short end of the stick by authors and Mr.McKay just to replace previous enemy in new location despite them being potentially greatest allies in whole series?
Hey fellow SG: Atlantis fan(s)!!
Honestly that sounds fun, like a machine empire based origin.
"Replicators: You are a race of machines evolved from a mindless swarm of nanomachines. Exiled from the galaxy, you must manage your time until the Gates open once more."
That Mechanic where the gate you open is safe, but the others aren't which I find a little counter intuitive, can catch you out.
I opened one on the fringe of my empire, expecting that to be the incursion point, only for the threat to pour out of another gate within my core empire.
Watch out for that mistake.
Sounds like a perfectly normal Paradox trap.
Paradox employs only the Tricksiest of Hobbits
Oof
You do understand it specifically tells you this in the text itself, yes? If you had only bothered to read, you would not have been "tricked".
Le Derp Français It told me before hand that the gates would wake up but implied it wouldn't be instant taking a matter of years ( the text is on screen in the video this comment chain is in reply too )
Instead the network instantly comes online and only told me AFTER I opened the gate that my scientists had closed of the one specific gate I opened, blockimg access from the other side making it safe.
It warns you the network will be brought back online across the galaxy, it doesn't warn you that the one gate you open is the only one that the threat won't come through.
Irony of people telling me I can't be bothered to read when they can't even correctly refer to the text in reference even when it's shown on screen in the video you are supposed to have watched...
20-30 k fleet strength is somewhat weak for this, did it today and if you want to finish this you better get more than 200 k because they seem to respawn there fleets and you have alone in the last fight whit the factory to fight over 200 k from them.
I agree I found them harder than the contingency later in the game. (i.e. for relative difficulty comparative to my empire)
I only had 30k-ish fleet power when I opened the L-gate the first time, had some trouble against multiple fleets, but 1v1 I handled them pretty well despite having a very generally balanced fleet. Once I got a foothold in Terminal Egress with a station to repair at and a few allies (who were all either inferior or pathetic compared to me) I didn't find it that hard to take out the factory. When I beat the Tempest I had a 40k unspecialized fleet, but if you specialize your fleet to counter them you should be able to do it pretty well with 30-40k fleet power
Trygve Borgen Yeah, he does just say "i recomend you have 20-30k fleet power *before you open"* - I took that as more of a caution, since if you're lucky you can open L-gates in the earlygame.. I think if you *really* wanted to get rid of it, you'd need 200k but for defence, you'd be fine
Dr. Ghoztz Boy am I lucky I didn’t incur the wrath of the grey goo when I did mine. I went into this story pack without any spoilers and I was lucky enough to get an L-Cluster with no idea of the dangers I was potentially unleashing. Fortunately the L Cluster was empty and I was able to claim the whole thing for myself which was probably a relief not just for me but the entire galaxy, considering no one had even broken 10k in fleet power by the time I cracked it.
I opened it and had about 2k, needless to say when I saw four fleets of 20k-30kish I just decided to take a break from my computer for a bit. RIP the human race, may you please your gray overlords.
I found the Grey Tempest to be harder to beat than the contingency in my only playthrough of both. I ended up having to resort to fortifying the shit out of terminal egress just so I could maintain a foothold since these guys have one shoal in each system, a couple of shoals patrolling (can often lead to 3 shoals in a system) and the factory replaces each dead fleet at a set time after the fleet's destruction (up to what appears to be a maximum rate of production). and slowly working my way from system to system to get to the factory.
Another Important note that ASpec missed is that you cannot see into the adjoining systems no matter what. I had enigmatic technology ascendancy perk and I still had to sacrifice science ships just so I could use the hyper lanes for my main fleet. even when I set up a listening post in terminal egress I still could not see into adjoining systems.
Well you can actually see into the system without the need to sacrifice a science ship and a scientist. I open the gate during late game (afraid of triggering the tempest without the ability to stop them), when I had a sentry array. The Sentry array allows you to see all the systems without sacrificing science ships. But since this is usually supposed to be earlier then megastructures I guess that method is difficult to pull off.
I did eventually figure out that I could get active sensor agreements with AI who I had open borders with, and a few of the systems were discovered by suicidal AI science ships although each empire would only send one until I had cleared the system. but hey it saved me a few scientists
With right fleet composition i found them rather easy to beat even when they had bigger fleet power. Only exception was the station, there my 35K fleet really wasn't enough
@@StarboyXL9 Unfortunately there are no in game mechanics to prevent AI from opening L-gates (although my AI only opened them once during the 200h 2.0 gameplay time I have) I know there are a sub mod under a major mod that could stop AI from opening the gates: One of the sub mods that add origin empire (A super op AI empire that can crush 5x Grand admiral difficulty crisis without breaking a sweat) to the major mod Zenith of fallen empires, this sub mod have an option to prevent AI from researching tech necessary to open L-gates. (Although this is only for player who do not want the origin empire to emerge too early, just as vanilla player who do not want tempest to appear too early)
But you need the major mod for the sub mod first, and the major mod itself add in tons of new techs like weapons and modules and abilities to build fallen empire buildings, but with that mod you can not play vanilla of course.
I opened the gate with 2k power fleet at the early game..... I m screw
I love how one anomaly you gives you 10% research for answering a space football's inquiry and another ends the universe
This is legit the first L-Gate event I got.
Same I hafd godly luck that game to opend an l gate by 2035 and brought apocalypse to the galaxy cause ishould known it was too good to be true
Wilma Perkins I might have better luck, since I have a 50k fleet, but I'm in the middle of unfriendly territory (The former Khan Empire to my north weat, Fanatic Purifiers to my North East, a fallen Empire to my south east, and a Maurader Empire to my South West). There are a few Wormholes and a whole bunch of Gateways, so I have some wiggle room, but no one is willing to ally with me and go through the L-Gate.
do they have any Lgates in there territory cause they might be more inclined to help once the tempest start swarming through them as well
Wilma Perkins The Khan Empire does, but they hate my guts so I think they'll sooner see their Empire burn.
let a few dozen of there worlds get turned into nanite worlds they might come around eventally either way I wish you luck
Always thought that stellaris needed something like the replicators from stargate
What about star trek replicators
Ah, this was the first thing I stumbled across when I opened the L-Cluster. Was a nice surprise to stumble upon more friendly robots who were so friendly in fact that they provided some target practice.
None of that happened to me.
I just opened the gate, there was nothing there and so i built mines and research stations and habitats there . .
It made for a good little hidey hole when the scurge came for the galaxy
FARBerserker 40% chance of that occurring.
that was my plan... was.
I did a more radical version of that. Before entering the L gate I made a pact with the end of cycle, used my super powers to conquer the gray tempest and build loads of habitats and ring worlds there (but didn't occupy them). Since I was a gaia world civ, and gaia worlds are super rare, when the "reckoning" event triggered my exile planet was one of the habitats - from which I occupied the rest of the cluster and became basically W40k's eldar, living in habitats (and a ring world) on the "warp".
Yeah that happened to me too. I opened it on year 2240 and theres nothing in there but resources and other empires are giving me 5k-15k per resources so its good too :)
lucky dude, opening the L gates literaly ruined my playtrought
I started this 50 years into the game and I had 3 l-gates in my territory (turned up gate spawn rates) so it was hell. it caused all the non xenophobic empires to form a federation with me. (And yes the tempest came out of the other two l-gates)
First time the other two L-gates were on the opposite side of the galaxy. They took out my rivals and it wasn’t until 70 years later that they came even close to my empire
had this on my first play-through in distant stars. i was so happy to see what was on the other side. ended up throwing hundreds of corvettes and destroyers at them over 80 years (2260-2340) until i finally killed the factory.
You put out quality content ASpec! I especially love the 'Mechanics Explained' type; super handy, informative stuff, please keep it up!
So they finally did it. After the numerous requests i've seen, they've finally added a "grey goo" kind of event.
Finally, they added new content to the game.
There is more than one of them? Good lord That changes everything. Also L gates don't spawn in 200 star galaxies.
By more of them I mean types of L cluster of course
They don't spawn on small galaxies? Is that for real?
They do indeed spawn in small galaxies however there's only one of them
Taking control of the Terminal Eggress then putting your biggest, most heavily armed space station there is a huge strategic edge, I might even say more so than the amazing resources. The ability to thus send your fleets throughout the galaxy via L-Gates is amazing.
VERY IMPORTANT
If one of their fleets enter a system containing a planet with an FTL inhibitor, they will quickly turn it into a nanite world. I lost my capital this way!
If you open the gate too early by mistake you must avoid doing the above! Their fleets will repeatedly patrol the same paths, so don't bother rebuilding any star bases they take out. Once you have enough fleet power to kill one of their fleets focus on building bases capable of repelling them at all L-gates/points of entry. Only go through the gate when you can kill at least 2 of their fleets together.
In one of my playthroughs there were planets near the black hole system that had nanite bots on them (ocean of nanites, nanite filled caves etc.) it was probably hinting at the tempest but never got that far in. Anyone else noticed this?
Nah, unrelated nanites. There are a few small nanite events unrelated to the L-cluster.
Yes, in recent versions events featuring nanite residues give you L-gate insights. A different play through, I had none of them, most likely they were surveyed by AI empires
MORE L- Gate content!
There is a fourth strategic resource available in the L-Cluster, which are Gray Actuators. These buff all types of research speed by 10%.
Also, the most effective way of dealing with the Tempest ships are by far corvette+destroyer swarms. Torpedo corvettes with disruptors and Destroyers with full point defence allow you to shut down their strike craft, while your torpedo corvettes to significant damage to their large ships that have no point defence. Furthermore, the titan weapon that the mothership uses can oneshot ANY combat ship that is not a titan, as it penetrates 100% of armour and shields. When using corvette/destroyer swarms it minimises the effect of this weapon as you are only losing one of many small ships. Using this setup I managed to defeat the Gray Tempest with 4 fleets of 60 corvettes and 20 destroyers each, with a total fleet power of approximately 150K
Shame that the Gray Tempest being defeated isn't an achievement, since just doing this was fun, though using a federation fleet to do most of the work helped!
They ate almost whole galaxy except me and few of my federation mates. And 2 guys from another federation. I destroed factory before they were eaten
This video poped up right when I got my L-gate insight done, talk about perfect timing.
In my game each fleet from the L gate was 64k in strength and they usually appeared in each L gate location. I had to use 160k with 5 titans to take over the first sector in the L cluster. Used the Titans to snipe the enemy Titan like ship. Every system in the L cluster had 2-3 64k fleets guarding it and they kept sending 64k fleets to the system I took over to try and take it back.
Their main system however was a nightmare. 6 64k fleets were guarding it with an extremely power station on top. Needed massive effort to take it down.
Now I have a bunch of Great habitable planets that I terraformed to gaia worlds in the L cluster where I'll move my capital while I plot my take over of the galaxy. >:-) .
I opened the L-gates when I was very weak, thank god I didn't get this event
Gray Tempest: We are very strong and we will destroy everything in this galaxy!
Me with my 500k fleet: oOh tHatS sCaRy
So I opened my when I only at 10kish fleet power, send help.
Update: After 10+ hours I finally beat them, I ended up sending 1 Titan and 200ish corvets to kill them.
Parker Koble me to... think I'll just restart the game lol
I opened up mine at 6k fleets! :o send more Help!
pray
Update: spent the last 6 hours slowly crying in a hole, I can now defend their attacks and the debris that is left behind has boosted me to be the most technological advance race. I was also luck since there was only one l-gate near me and they don't come through it, and theirs only one entrance to my domain, now to spend another 6 hours slowly trying to kill them
You give me hope Brother!
I was able to open the Gate when my Empire was very weak and there is nothing inside but planets but a Dragon when out from the gate though. I didn't have this event.
You are extremely lucky for that dragon.
Le Mustachio Republic, Why isn't it better to get those battle events?
People say that dragon is very rare. While this event happens about 50% of the time.
Rare but boring.
I had a dragon come out of the gate, and I got the worm event shortly after.
Geez. I'm glad I got the Dessanu Consonance on my first playthrough. I would have no clue what to do about this.
I ended up trapped in the L-Gate while the contingency destroys the Galaxy
I too have had this issue.
ASpec I mean it was kind of an interesting sci-fi concept of a society trapped in deep space while their Galaxy was cleansed
Built a bunch of habitats and a ring world
then million years passed some new empire discorver the L - Gate and your empire became new end game crisit for them
Olga Kost Ima be a fallen empire
This could have been done in a Mass effect Reaper invasion, just wait there in silence and the galaxy will be yours for 50,000 years. They should make a crisis similar to the Reapers actually....
I never knew there were other events for the L-Gates, dragons always came out for me
So, that's the system that will be fortified by "flower of fortresses"(if it is still possible since devs are constantly making it harder to put several into the same system at all)
You can't flower fortress anymore sadly
ASpec
hmm, well, it was obvious it was coming to that with every patch... so, anything in return?
You can upgrade and outfit your outposts from little starbases to heavily armed Citadels. If I remember correctly, a "maxed" Citadel can easily reach 40k fleet power and I haven't taken all the relevant Ascension perks which could further boost their strength.
Curiously the AI empires I've encountered all try the damn hardest to fortify any L-Gate system in their borders with citadels.
Clearly the devs programed them to have some means of at least slowing down the Grey Tempest
ChaosSandwhich why wouldn't they? It's basically an "I win" button if used right. Time it right and you'll get free access to all territories of your enemies right after they were beaten by those nanites. Move in and finish them off at your own leisure!
Grey Goo, aka liquid death.
I remember my first contact with them, i went in with a balanced fleet, yeah, lets talk about that
There were 5 nanite fleets in there, meedless to say, i was forced to retreat, wasnt willing to lose my titan, then i went to the planning board, i sent in a constructor ship there to look what i would need to build, my choice? Shield over armour, with destroyers and corvets with Flaks, after building my fleet it had 1 titan with hull regen bonus, 5 Battleships 10 cruisers (the mothership with the 1-9999 weapon was always one shotting my cruisers and battleships) 30 destroyers and 30 corvets, both with flaks and picket computers, with that, i was easily able to just drive by every system they had, i just had problem dealing with the factory later on, because my ships would just rush to the center and be focused by everything in the system, so i just built a starbase on the system before, i would jump in, destroy as many ships as i could, and when my fleet got to the center, i would retreat them, and did that process a few times, it was fun, kinda, i liked the story behind it, just felt a bit... underwhelming? I feel like they could be stronger, specially because boy, the systems you can colonize is just a huge income boost.
“...make sure you have 20k- 30k fleet power” i opened it and i only have 3k, Sighh 😔 looks like i gotta load one of a my old saves
For me the Tempests never left their L gate systems more than once. Kinda disappointing and they had like 200k fleet power just sitting there at one point and could probably of steamrolled the galaxy.
Mine just stayed around the L-gates they came out of and never went anywhere else. I just ended up taking the L cluster and leaving those for everybody else to kill.
Yeah, when this came out, I really wanted to see what the L-Gate did, so I rushed to open it. The most powerful fleet in the galaxy at the time was 12k, no one could fight it. I single-handedly wiped out the galaxy, including myself. Oops.
We need more end game crises
I love these videos, keep them up !
I love this event, it reminded me of the Vanth system from Leviathan Events Extended with the difficulty presented.
When I opened it I just got a friendly guy who offered to become a 30k power mother ship.
Taste the nanites!
*Become the nanites!*
Nothing more fun than tech rushing the L gates in like the first 30 years and laugh at everyone who screams at you to stop
Well I got lucky in my game. I opened the L-Gate and there was nothing on the other side waiting me besides some nodes to survey.
I would love a modded shipset using tempest ships.
maybe as a synth empire?
I had two games with nanite fleets spawned and one without. With the current performance issue caused by the L-cluster, I found that if you don't have significant lag prior to opening the gates, it means there's no hostiles in the L-cluster.
The Devs missed the boat on the Nanite weapon systems. Clearly, some kinetic weapons would be appropriate, which would INFECT your own ships on hit, gradually reducing their effectiveness and then, if you don't destroy the Mother ship in a timely manner, turning them against you. Beats generic damage dealers in conveying the special characteristics of this menace. ='[.]'=
huh that could work but it wouldnt control ships the grey goo would eat your ship and repair itself or make more it would encourage a shield based fleet strategy as the grey goo would eat threw armour quicker the any acid but shields are energy which the grey cant consume so theyd have to break though to get to the armour
Maybe if they destroy a ship, or enough resource equivalent, they could reinforce in fight. And there should be weapons that deal damage overtime due to that.
You should make a suggestion on the forums, that may be cool. I wonder how they would balance it.
in my first playtrought i activated the L gates too soon.. my biggest fleet had 6k power, lets say noone in the galaxy stood a chance as i played without fallen empires
I played my first encounter with the nanite ships a bit slower. I taghed the initial invasion fleets (had control of 3 of the 4 gates that spawned), made a beachhead in the egress, and then over the course of a few years gametime, all the fleets had come to the egress one at a time. Not sure if the factory was producing any replacements, but if it was, the pace was just way to slow to keep up with my advance into the L cluster
I used three fleets to secure the first system you jump into. One at each gate seems to hold them off pretty well as they continue to spawn fleets and send them in. The reason I do it this way is so, i can farm the tech, so my science ship can (hopefully) scan the entire first system, then my const ship can quickly build a outpost. Once thats done my opponents, unless they are at war, can no longer enter said system and im free to clear the systems. Although I didnt know all ya needed to do was go directly to the base. Seems much more efficient your way Aspec ^^.
Biggest drawback even after defeating the event is now any enemy you have can and will attack that system to get the advantage of the Lgate system. Also, the lag after you open a gate is horrid. Its why many players ive seen in the forums and reddit just avoid the event entirely. Im not sure if the ai players can open the gates though.
Further Correction - The L-Cluster isn't the only place with Gray Dust, I've found it once in a random system
actually it might be like living metal you can discover deposits of it in events but they wont show up on your map tell you get the tech to use it i guess discovering tehm in the l cluster lets you see it in the rest of the galaxy all the nanite events that give you insight will probably have grey dust on them
Ive only had a empty cluster with stupid amounts of strategic resources no enemies at all. :(
then you are lucky, the cluster can be one of the following:
>Infested with the grey tempest (common)
>dead but with terraformable worlds
>dead with broken worlds
>L Dragon???!!!! (rarest)
I have yet to get anything but -dead with broken world and its like, my sixth playthrough... fml this is boring.
i have yet ti get a game where the tempest don't invade and its 3 of my playthroghs cause open to early thinking to myself i wont be that unlucky it wont happen multiply times in a row how wrong i was
Lag-Gates
One of the ai empires opened the one L gate in our galaxy at year 70 and the nost powerful fleet was only 5k, the ai empire that opened it was of course completely obliterated but the tempest was distracted enough to allow me to build up a fleet that can take theirs out one at a time
There are more than one event behind the L - clusters ?
indeed
fascinating
Just this, a 40% chance of it being empty and a 10% chance of an ether drake out of leviathans coming out with he empire that opens it having the option to tame it.
Isn’t there a chance of there being a “friendly” empire in the L-cluster? Thought I read that somewhere.
In my playthrough (I got to the L-cluster, but there were no hostile fleets) I found another strategic resource called the gray actuators which provided a +10% bonus to research.
There is a lot of variation in this event. The first time I came across it. There were only 2 l gates in the whole galaxy (medium) and they were next to me. I opened mine quite early and the event said it will be a while before other gates open. There were no ships of any kind in the L cluster and it was mine to claim! And had its insane bonuses for the rest of the game. The second time , I accessed the l cluster and there were immediately 4 28k fleets, the biggest fleet I could build then was 10k and I only had 3 fleets. And there was lot more once I managed to get into the cluster .All I could do was defend my gate while I let other empires crumble the humans got wiped out. And i built up some better tech and after taking the first L gate star system, the fleets in the main cluster started making their way back to the l cluster where I destroyed them one at a time.
I did not know this one was even a thing. I was just super excited to get access to a L-cluster. I had like a fleet of maybe 9K if I put them all together. I opened the gate around the early mid-game and then was wiped off the galactic map. R.I.P. that empire of mine.
I remember using a mod that basically turned my empire into a weaker Grey Tempest. Ironically, I got the Grey Tempest. I had significant fleet power, because I opened it after midgame. It took years, but I finally built my fleets up strong enough to charge the nanite factory. One of my allies was shattered in to pieces from their L-Gate. They and my allies were very weak.
Wish the central factory left the technology to their weapons
A good way to clear the Factory is to build as many corvettes as possible. I did it with aound 220 with a fleet power of 45k split on 2 Fleets.
The Tempest Fleets have also no way to repair themself and the reinforcement will always roam around the system and later go to the Terminal System to attack. When a Fleet in the Factory System or any other L-Cluster System is destroyed or damaged it will not be rebuild/repaired.
My Corvettes had like 80-90% dodge and also Flak on them. The strategy is to swarm them, do as much damage as possible and flee with your Fleets as soon as you can. Rebuild your Fleet afterwards. I lost around 60 on the first attack and killed 4 of their cruisers after the 2nd engagement i only lost 45. The Ships that survived get also a good chunk of xp which will boost you power by quite a lot.
After every Fight you will kill more of them and lose less ships. I cleared it after 7 engagements with a total fleet power of 45k! :-)
i got a different event with the L-gate where the grey swarm had merged into one "being" and joined me i could change him into a leader(really good), a 50 to 60 K fleet power ship (cant remember exactly), and a army unit.
side note the grey swarm told me to call it "the grey" i don't know if any else has had this but i have only had it once
The Gray Tempest brings a flurry of quick speaking informative UA-cam videos. With stick figures.
I had this event happen on me while my combined fleets were strong enough to take out a single of the nanite fleets.
However, when I sent one of them back for repairs I was toast...
They started invading a part of my empire and one of an ally (which I assume was the reason they wanted to be in a protectorate). Luckily this event did lead to me forming a federation with another empire and finally with a fleet of 130k I destroyed that factory.
What works really well is slowly crawling inside the l cluster while constructing starbases with shipyards. This makes sure reinforcement can be mustered quickly and repairs performed quickly as well.
Its strange to me coming back to this and seeing all the other special resources that were available back in the day.
Weird isn't it
I'll tell you something from my yesterdays gameplay. I opened L gate, and there was just another systems for me. I took over all of them besides one, and then pirates from my empire spawned in that one system.
i didn't even know this could happen from the l-gates i have been opening them on every playthrough and they are empty free systems each time. i didn't realise i was rolling the cosmic dice and got lucky each time.
20 to 30k. Never ever will I open that thing without 200k fleet power. The grey tempest just killed the whole galaxy and I managed to maintain it after it started in the middle of the Great Khan crisis. After all this, there were 3 Ai empires left and me. The whole galaxy... just an empty map with 24k fleets everywhere.
Big fleets of corvettes with distruptors just knocks them out real quick.
and they are kind of cheap to replace.
it was bugged for me, most L gate systems spawned a fleet or two and then proceeded to move about 3 systems away from the gates and then stopped moving completely, they stayed like that until i was able to build a big enough fleet to take out the factory myself later on
Because of the 2.1.1 update, my entire fleet was caught in the L cluster, which led to some fascinating roleplay.
I did a corvette rush with flak and swarm tactics while being a ring world origin as a machine empire. It was pretty hellish but fun no less.
Both this one and the unbidden both got rect by a 2mio fleet power empire in my galaxy :D So much effort into preparing myself for the endgame when you litterely have an empire sweeping them all underneath the carbet before they get to touch you.
Opened L Gate early, got the Grey Tempest, they went straight for the Marauder Empire and delt with a huge pain in my ass. Gave me enough time to build up my fleets to take the fight to them
So funny story, I activated the l gate and got gray tempest and by then I had a 60k fleet so I wasn't that worried until I realized that there was multiple l gates so they went to the other ones and absolutely wrecked the galaxy by the time I got the courage to go into the system the only empires remaining are me, my allies (one died) and the fallen empires. so I go there conquer everything except the factory built a citadel out side of the system then got 3 fleets, each 70-100k power then attacked so I singe handedly screwed over the galaxy and now the fallen are inferior. Now should I attack them?
i've started about 5 games since the dlc came out, 4 of them i didn't get any event out of the L cluster (gave me a false sense of security that the event was rare), this most recent one i immediately got the Tempest event and got my 1k fleet power ass handed to me
Grey Tempest!! A fun game in the end. I did the Shard the Dragon quest and got the artefact then began my L gate research. However a neighbour beat me to finishing it and unleashed the Grey Tempest, biggest fleet nearby other than my own was about 5 or 6K, so the first GT fleet just deleted most of that empire cut mine in half and bombed my home-world to grey goo. Was going to quit the game my son is in tears (cursed iron man mode) but I managed to destroy them.
Thanks for the video
It was 2250, 3 nanite fleets carving through my friend and I'm running out of time, friend builds fortress world with a dying wish of wanting to buy me some time, 10 years later and his fortress world gets destroyed leaving him with one planet, boom my 40k fleet appears outta nowhere and picks out the gray tempest fleets one by one saving both of our lives, I then split our resource gain so he can make a comeback... endgame crisis kills us cuz I had it set to 10x for some reason
The game wouldn't let me survey the system containing the gate in the cluster, so I couldn't get the resources, but my god there were many other science ships swipping about to get the good stuff.
just opened one of these blind with 2 fleets of 30k, managed to hold them off until i was one of the last empires but they eventually gobbled everything up. It was so cool.
I only opened the L gate with two 90+k fleets and a 200 torpedo corvette swarm standing by. They ain't doing much consuming nowadays
And the resources let me gobble up the closest FE which is nice.
Ugh stupid ai unleashed the tempest so im dealing with it rn.. pain in the ass, barely able to hold it off but starting to slowly get the upper hand.
I'm not sure if it is a but or if the cluster did not spawn during my play though. TL:DR, I was the first to open the gate. But a weaker empire that I was just beating into the ground managed to snag the Terminal before me.
Distant Stars and the latest update (Brain Slugs, L-Gates, etc.) actualyl seem very much based on Stargate.
Had no idea this is what happens. To be fair, I had about 60k total manpower at the start so not totally helpless, but completely screwed when I realized all of their fleets were 88k+. Spending almost all of my resources because I’m the only nation that can even somewhat stand toe to toe with them, wish me luck
The L-cluster, grey tempest (24k), was my mid-game crisis..... A bit of advice, be very careful when queueing up special projects. It was an interesting game, especially because I was able to beat it back.
I also found an additional resource of grey actuators which gave +10% reaserch speed.
I had 4 L-Gates in my territory and was ready for defending my space with a 30k fleet and citadel at each one. Once activated they came through 3 gates and were disposed of with around a 10k loss to each of my fleets. Not even a few months later another Tempest fleet arrived at the 3 gates with one of them bringing alongside with it the Mothership. Needless to say I was crushed☹️ Do you think it’s fair that a 30k enemy fleet can spawn at the gates every few months?
Yeah I got this one the second time we played with DS. We had to restart cause one of the other players opened the L-gate 60 years in which no one had nearly enough fleet power to deal with them. lol
They main system didn't show up in my game until I finished building the Sensor array mega structure. so i had to keep fighting them off until it was finished.
Experiencing this for the first time and now I’m next on the menu.