Removing Hero Lighting in Bloodborne PC (and why)

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  • Опубліковано 7 лис 2024

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  • @fromsoftserve
    @fromsoftserve  2 місяці тому +81

    I once again set out to make a shorter video that stayed focused...and of course that didn't happen. I nerded the fuck out and I know y'all love when I do that, since it's like when your kid brings you something they drew and you put it up on the fridge lmao

    • @m2fahad148
      @m2fahad148 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @NoSmoke1
      @NoSmoke1 2 місяці тому +1

      That describes it perfectly and I'm here for it every video lol

    • @Shmuggo
      @Shmuggo 2 місяці тому +4

      What you could do is sectioning your video for people who would want to just ingest the main information so the first 10 mins of that and then the actual technical stuff at the end, can also use the youtube feature to mark the spots on what you exactly explain etc which would be pretty nice

    • @fromsoftserve
      @fromsoftserve  2 місяці тому +4

      @@Shmuggo ehhhh I've cultivated an audience who likes the unfiltered, more broad type videos and it's also easier for me. So a win win in my book

    • @adlaiHoller
      @adlaiHoller 2 місяці тому +4

      Love your videos but indeed please please please give a summary somehow too! Even if just an X post or something in the description or an intro to the video. You're the one holding the torch of overall bloodborne emu progress for the rest of us but 30+ minutes per day is a lot!

  • @Wilboforce
    @Wilboforce 2 місяці тому +310

    I hope tall women with big naturals are mentioned somewhere in this video

    • @R4G4M3MN0N
      @R4G4M3MN0N 2 місяці тому +19

      Lol guess im not the only one who watches to the end of his videos

    • @CatfishBradley
      @CatfishBradley 2 місяці тому +5

      Glad I could bring attention to our real culture

    • @Lightstream2
      @Lightstream2 2 місяці тому +5

      sadly there was no mention of this

    • @DaRoachDoggJrr
      @DaRoachDoggJrr 2 місяці тому +37

      @@Lightstream2there was, you don’t have enough insight

    • @BirdNoise77
      @BirdNoise77 2 місяці тому +3

      Men of culture, we meet again

  • @eirates1550
    @eirates1550 Місяць тому +2

    Ds3 you can really notice the "hero lighting" you're doing gods work fixing their lighting and shading

  • @loomingmoon4682
    @loomingmoon4682 2 місяці тому +20

    17:27 Seeing the world from that angle...the work that must've gone into that level of craftsmanship, Jesus Christ

  • @éGroundedAndGrowing
    @éGroundedAndGrowing 2 місяці тому +36

    Man you deserve more,did someone have a clear idea what left in the games to be playable

    • @fromsoftserve
      @fromsoftserve  2 місяці тому +70

      so we need the particle effects to render correctly and for point lights not to be the same brightness as the sun's surface lol. Oh and sounds to work correctly. Beyond that, many of the issues have been sorted. Performance is def something to be improved as well. But, we're in the ballpark of it being playable, which is crazy

    • @Morgan-gp3vy
      @Morgan-gp3vy 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@fromsoftserve yeah, and people say stop saying "were close it'll be playable in a month" I get why but it's probably also motivating for the developers and volunteers.

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 Місяць тому

      ​​@@fromsoftserve but that figure is for colloquial "playable", right? The emulator forum has some sort of criteria for calling games "playable", I don't think we're that cost to those yet. Or are we?

  • @MackieBNice
    @MackieBNice 2 місяці тому +6

    The file location of Bloodborne being in the Steam directory is hilarious XD

  • @Grundbeldknight
    @Grundbeldknight 2 місяці тому +36

    🗣️🔥 Bloodborne pc on Christmas

    • @lol5776
      @lol5776 2 місяці тому +1

      🗣 🔥 Bloodborne pc on Halloween

  • @malice2921
    @malice2921 2 місяці тому +3

    hero lighting has always sorta bothered me, the game looks so much more immersive with it off. it's crazy how fast this whole project is coming along, keep it up!!!

  • @hunted4blood
    @hunted4blood 2 місяці тому +29

    I can't wait for a few year (or months lol) from now when there are a ton SERIOUS graphics overhaul mods for Bloodborne on PC. Someday, we'll have fully raytraced shadows and dynamic lighting on everything.

    • @NielsGx
      @NielsGx 2 місяці тому +2

      Raytracing ? lol never
      We can have *screenspace* raytracing kinda with reshade, but it's screenspace only, applied on top, and pretty simple

    • @Wilboforce
      @Wilboforce 2 місяці тому +4

      @@NielsGx Never say never. I don't think it's impossible that one day (years from now) there could be plugins for shadps4 which hook into the game instead of adding a layer on top. I've been playing bloodborne on PC. I don't think anything is impossible anymore.

    • @MeatThrasher
      @MeatThrasher 2 місяці тому +3

      To completely get rid of the original art direction?

    • @hunted4blood
      @hunted4blood 2 місяці тому +7

      @@MeatThrasher Yes. Is there something wrong with wanting to mod a videogame?

  • @camiloasepulveda1
    @camiloasepulveda1 2 місяці тому +7

    I follow updates on DC everyday, keep it up men, you and everyone else that it's achiving this are the goated

  • @danielgebert4556
    @danielgebert4556 2 місяці тому +1

    Not a pedantic exercise - this is exactly the kind of stuff I find fascinating. Thank you for this.

  • @ThatsMySkill
    @ThatsMySkill 2 місяці тому +11

    that seperation of lighting in bloodborne was always very apparent to me cause the character model at some points in the game seems distinctively different compared to the environment. especially the black levels of the character are usually way different than in the environment. i figured it was because they were seperately lit but its nice to hear it from someone like you who actually knows how it all works. in that case i kinda always felt it a bit visually offputting and making the character feel like it doesnt quite 100% fit into the world.

  • @TheMisbegottenOphanim
    @TheMisbegottenOphanim 2 місяці тому +5

    I personally never liked the "Hero Lighting," it always felt unnecessary because we already had lanterns and other light sources. Which aren't even properly used since the in-game-lighting is either inconsistent or the shading isn't properly rendered. (This might be because of the game engine, similar to Bethesda, FromSoft unintentionally made their game engine pretty bad compared to older versions of Unreal Engine and other high-quality game engines that didn't share this issue.)

  • @santanius
    @santanius 2 місяці тому +3

    I’ve never played bloodborne but I can’t wait to play this, also I’ve been thinking about getting into graphics programming so your videos are very informative to me.

  • @grabs_you5954
    @grabs_you5954 2 місяці тому +2

    I actually love the hero lighting in bloodborne, there are many extra highlights and shadows in the game that give a more mysterious vibe, it also adds necessary visual clarity because the game is so damn dark

  • @garbage_person
    @garbage_person 2 місяці тому

    Fascinating to see behind the scenes on your process. Keep up the good work. Also if you do more vids like these in the future, please enable "capture cursor" in the obs capture settings so it's a bit easier to follow along with what you're editing.

  • @JUSTICEFORPEANUT
    @JUSTICEFORPEANUT 2 місяці тому +47

    time for my daily kino

    • @sandwich4916
      @sandwich4916 2 місяці тому +1

      You mean cinema in german?

  • @TsDwelling
    @TsDwelling 2 місяці тому +1

    This is absolutely amazing. I like the lighting changes. More immersive.

  • @RioDelTiempo24
    @RioDelTiempo24 2 місяці тому +11

    Tall women lighting mod when? much love

  • @clover3516
    @clover3516 2 місяці тому +3

    I always appreciate hero lighting because I struggle with dark colors, and it’s juuuuust enough that I can make out surroundings. I think a mod is best for this sort of thing like, you walk with a torch to see better? But I always prefer being able to read what’s happening over immersion since there is always a level of suspension of disbelief in any game you play

    • @clover3516
      @clover3516 2 місяці тому +4

      I think people can forget that the goal in a game isn’t always to be as immersive as possible. When you make a game you always have to make concessions on what works and what doesn’t, and I kind of dislike the idea that visibility should be sacrificed for a game built around watching your enemies. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy the art direction if I can’t see it, you know? Even when you are with the brain of mensis, a place distinctly pitch-black, they control what you see for an effect that I think works really well!
      (This is a mix of towards the guy doing the hard work and comments I’m seeing)
      Keep up the great work! I think nodding is great for any game since it allows for options like this for folks who prefer it! I just dislike the idea that this is inherently bad

  • @neerkum5428
    @neerkum5428 2 місяці тому +2

    My favourite influencer is back with another banger

    • @lol5776
      @lol5776 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@RedWolfensteinhe's influencing Bloodborne PC

  • @I_Am_The_Impurest
    @I_Am_The_Impurest 2 місяці тому

    I just wanted to thank you for all the work you and others have done to get this game working... I am surprisingly enough able to actually play my favorite playstation exclusive game withe even the low end specs i have . GTX 1660 - ryzen 7 -2700x - 24gb ram. Played today and had no issues even in chalice dungeons . Even though it was a little bright in the chalice dungeons was still playable .. Really mean it i am extremely grateful.

  • @user-ep1hp7vj6p
    @user-ep1hp7vj6p 2 місяці тому +12

    ive always hated player lighting, visibility be damned it looks so much worse

    • @XDarkGreyX
      @XDarkGreyX 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, it is just weird.

  • @armanroxy1491
    @armanroxy1491 2 місяці тому

    Loved it. a question would you also improve other ps4 exclusives too? Or just bloodborne

  • @DWN-024ShadowMan
    @DWN-024ShadowMan 2 місяці тому +1

    This is looking more and more like a remaster by the day. Holy shit! 🤯 Also, do you have to manually walk into every area of the game to check for the character light? ALSO#2 Don't forget to take it easy man, take your breaks. Don't let this project consume you. Much love ❤

  • @Juancho-05
    @Juancho-05 2 місяці тому +8

    I love how bro calls Byrgenwerth Burger Town since is just easier to pronounce lmao, also love the reference to the cod franchise

  • @pretentiosaurus
    @pretentiosaurus 2 місяці тому +1

    this exact thing is what i wanna see in these games, i constantly have issues with the way my character looks in any given environment and it's all because of the lighting

  • @Bedlam83
    @Bedlam83 2 місяці тому +3

    Nah, hero lighting has its place. I usually prefer it for the overall composition of the picture.

  • @Jet1337
    @Jet1337 2 місяці тому +2

    Fallout 4 has this too and it's called "character lightning". You can disable it on yourself and other NPCs with the "cl off" console command.

    • @jimmyjams5038
      @jimmyjams5038 2 місяці тому

      Works in Skyrim as well. Not sure if the command is the same in oblivion but it may be. It's WAY more noticeable in fallout 4 though.

  • @maki1532
    @maki1532 2 місяці тому

    Long live fromsoftserve

  • @LUCKYCAT20
    @LUCKYCAT20 2 місяці тому

    You are a hard worker, keep up the good work. I already played Bloodborne on the PS4 years ago but i enjoy emulation and your videos are very entertaining to watch. 👍 Also hero lighting is really meh and im gald you made a mod for it already as it bugged me lol.

  • @Sieztt
    @Sieztt 2 місяці тому +2

    big natural lighting mod anytime soon?

  • @gabrielbelmont8013
    @gabrielbelmont8013 2 місяці тому +1

    ASMR Bloodborne videos.

  • @SpoopsAHoy
    @SpoopsAHoy 2 місяці тому

    Everyday we wander closer to Cthulhu.

  • @joesaiditstrue
    @joesaiditstrue 2 місяці тому

    off topic sorta, but is the Bloodborne cinematic intro ("attract mode" as called in arcade games) rendered in engine? I'm talking about where it shows the hunter sawing through the dog, and being attacked by Cleric Beast

  • @royceguitarist5697
    @royceguitarist5697 2 місяці тому

    You guys are EPIC!

  • @bowiper5917
    @bowiper5917 2 місяці тому

    yes it is better then before , after you remove it the object locks like it have ray tracing or something like that, it is absolutely better

  • @NielsGx
    @NielsGx 2 місяці тому

    Great change

  • @damntanic
    @damntanic 2 місяці тому

    Good as always

  • @normalhuman4951
    @normalhuman4951 2 місяці тому

    Time for your daily dose of fromsoftserve sweetie! Yes ma'am...

  • @zandermeister1024
    @zandermeister1024 Місяць тому

    while watching, i noticed something that always rubbed me off, but i've never really put my finger on it: specular lightning in dark places. surfaces are always shiny like they are outside, reflecting moonlight, even though it's almost pitch dark
    i wonder if that could be fixed without engine hacks, maybe there're some kind of area-specific cubemaps or something

  • @jimmyjams5038
    @jimmyjams5038 2 місяці тому

    A lot of games use some form of character lighting and i cant stand how ugly it is. In Bethesda's elder scrolls and fallout games theres actually a command to disable it and apparently no UA-camr on the planet knows that command exists because everyone has it enabled. Fallout 4's character lighting is the most obvious and looks SO much better with it didabled. For anyone interested the command is simply "cl off" works in skyrim as well and possibly oblivion too.

  • @tahasinmohammadtahasin9300
    @tahasinmohammadtahasin9300 2 місяці тому

    that's actually looks better

  • @adanrich178
    @adanrich178 Місяць тому

    I like it better this way.

  • @petem3883
    @petem3883 Місяць тому

    How do you reduce the way too bright lights on the torches and streetlights?

  • @iHaveTheDocuments
    @iHaveTheDocuments 2 місяці тому

    Willaim of MC Burger Town

  • @Jttd234
    @Jttd234 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if someone can remove the light that pops up after you kill an enemy when you get their blood echos

  • @Amixx8778
    @Amixx8778 2 місяці тому

    Can we mod it ? ( I asked under another video :3 )

  • @the.musiciangamer
    @the.musiciangamer 2 місяці тому

    @04:19 Wait did I hear a casual reference to ‘burger town’?
    Like the song, “I’mmmm shitin’ on down now I must be in burger town!!” From the circa 98’ burger documentary?! Lmao
    For reference: ua-cam.com/video/Lfu76Z4QPHM/v-deo.htmlsi=kTq38PNX_ZxB2LQc @03:30 in the video for the song
    Are you a Jaboody show fan by chance??

  • @Junglejuz
    @Junglejuz 2 місяці тому +1

    Clearly they set up the lighting like this as a kind of fake global illumination. At this point I feel like you'd be best off just disabling it on everything entirely, adding your point lights and some strategically placed fill lights, and then using a ray traced GI shader with reshade.

  • @unclegoose3864
    @unclegoose3864 2 місяці тому

    I have never been a fan of hero lighting. Force us to use a torch or lantern.

  • @Emulator_Crossing
    @Emulator_Crossing 2 місяці тому

    herolight, is it ever being good in a game? why dev think we like this effect?

  • @hugoaransan8251
    @hugoaransan8251 2 місяці тому +2

    I played bloorborne and bought a second hand PS4 just for that. I played for like 5 days 4-5 hours a day and the console just exploded because it was clogged with dust due to the completely dumb inside architecture and ventilation the PS4 had. I refuse to buy anotherone and would like to finish my playthrough as I own an original copy of the game... Just don't want to deal with the shitty hardware xd

  • @solidsnakered
    @solidsnakered 2 місяці тому

    Go goin get GTA6 before BBPC

  • @shadowofadoubt14
    @shadowofadoubt14 2 місяці тому

    oh yes

  • @jean-jacqueswalters2690
    @jean-jacqueswalters2690 2 місяці тому

    no1, whoop whoop

  • @GatCat-ep6ym
    @GatCat-ep6ym 2 місяці тому +10

    No views, man fell off

    • @fromsoftserve
      @fromsoftserve  2 місяці тому +12

      damn I've really gone downhill lol

  • @jcnom6606
    @jcnom6606 2 місяці тому +5

    never liked artificial "hero" lighting

    • @Tycholarfero
      @Tycholarfero 2 місяці тому +2

      It's good in some circumstances but most games make them a bit too bright so I get that

    • @GrandHighGamer
      @GrandHighGamer 2 місяці тому +7

      Tastefully done I think I've the opposite opinion. I think most movies would look terrible if they didn't have per-shot lighting that doesn't really match the in-universe lightsources. Bunch of hard to see characters and dark faces. With that said, modulating it all so you don't end up with weird glowing silhouettes in the dark is a part of the artistry. The environments here are a worst case scenario though, since they've not got any sources of light whatsoever. Never played Bloodborne myself so I don't know if these are meant to have a lightmap that isn't being rendered, but having some source of light dimly filtering through the environment would probably make things look better than removing some hero lights.

    • @jcnom6606
      @jcnom6606 2 місяці тому

      @@GrandHighGamer sure but it's done terribly too often and kills my immersion and i don't love it bloodborne. It's even worse in ER

    • @Decadent_Descent
      @Decadent_Descent 2 місяці тому

      @@jcnom6606 I always felt that it was the worst in DS2.

    • @jcnom6606
      @jcnom6606 2 місяці тому

      @@Decadent_Descent yeah, you’re like a walking glow stick in that game

  • @silver_forest-k5i
    @silver_forest-k5i 2 місяці тому +1

    Sony should take immediate action to ban this project due to its promotion of piracy and copyright violations. Additionally, the entire development team should be identified and treated as criminals, facing legal consequences for their actions.

    • @superwhizz114
      @superwhizz114 2 місяці тому +23

      I think you should find some real friends and hobbies

    • @NoSmoke1
      @NoSmoke1 2 місяці тому +14

      Did you lose a bet or something

    • @webster1116
      @webster1116 2 місяці тому +13

      I remember when bait used to be believable

    • @DaRoachDoggJrr
      @DaRoachDoggJrr 2 місяці тому

      I ban you from ur mom

    • @powerneed1023
      @powerneed1023 2 місяці тому +9

      back in my day we were good at making bait you youngns have alot to learn

  • @DoughWilliams
    @DoughWilliams Місяць тому

    So is it true what they said about Bloodborne having spaghetti code and that’s supposedly why Sony won’t touch it?

    • @fromsoftserve
      @fromsoftserve  Місяць тому +1

      nahhh that's not true at all, really.