After having played ff16 i literally cant see a summon as just a creature anymore ill always be thinking of them as clive joshua jill cid benedikta hugo dion and barnabas
I think this being in this soundfont shows how good of a replacement Soken was for Uematsu, this borderline sounds like a song that you COULD have heard in FF7
@@gavo7911 hm? The one that voices an uneducated opinion on a subject? This isn't about subjective musical taste either, this person compared two composers work. I am educated in the field, so I shared my opinion and was apologetic for being disagreeable. You ever wonder why 7 and 10 were so successful? The music *, coincidentally, evokes the most emotion because of how is written and arranged. Pretty important when you're looking at Lego characters. Always that one guy, adding nothing to the conversation. Edit: the other games have great stories too, but why aren't they popular?
@@eqpizza Oh no. Not at all. The Rebirth version sounds like it came from another franchise (won't spoil it, but you will IMMEDIATELY know which one I'm talking about).
from what ive noticed (maybe im wrong) soken is more about building up ONE BIG emotional/powerfull momment meanwhile uematso is more about the whole piece maintaining an idea. does that make sense? like, in most soken themes there is always this one big momment that elevates the piece or makes it really hut like in awake, heroes, invincible, Ultima (both ARR and ShB) etc. meanwhile most uematsu themes (even the ones with very clear climax) feel focused in maintaining a specific mood/emotion. and i love both tbh.
Yeah, I definitely notice what you mean more when it comes to FFXIs Uematsu pieces, most of them have a consistent feeling throughout (rolanberry fields/ Tu’Lia) and a sort of closing bit at the end before they loop whereas a lot of soken’s pieces kind of have that “chorus” that’s really the high point of the songs (Wayward Daughter). I agree with you I love them both. Final fantasy has ALWAYS had banging soundtracks in literally every single game even the spin-offs idk why people argue about soken vs uematsu they’re both some of the best composers in the gaming industry by a country mile
@@deefour28 I heard someone say once "why does Soken need to slap a Chorus into every single track" but I actually prefer it this way. It all builds up to that one moment and it really catches you off guard. Like in Wayward Daughter, Ascension, and Away, it is brilliantly built up until the chorus hits.
I think you can pin that down to the kind of games that Soken and Uematsu are composing for. The games Uematsu did are largely turn-based, meaning that the music more or less needed to have a very even pace. The music has to fit the scene, after all. Soken is composing for things like FF14 and FF16. Fast paced, high octane fights with very specific scripted moments. That's why even his remixes of older tracks are much faster paced and transform into "his style". It's all about the buildup because that's what the players are going for too. We're playing for those limit breaks, phase changes, DPS checks. Turn-based players are fighting to survive, to get off their skills/spells with every turn as the boss ticks closer to wiping them out...hence why the music is more of a march. FF14's From the Heavens in Omega Protocol (Ultimate) is definitive evidence of the style that music composers like Soken and Copeland do. The climaxes of the song were specifically timed to link up to enrage/phase changes. If Uematsu was actively working in the game environments like the ones we currently see, I expect that he may have taken a different route with his compositions.
HELLO this is fantastic! And such an epic undertaking, wow. Like someone said it really sounds like a WEAPON attack score. The way you've programmed the strings or something, sounds particularly FFVII authentic.
I may not have vibed with FF16 as a game BUT the soundtrack is amazing, Soken always blows me away every time. This is really good, i loved hearing it with ff7 sound font ❤
@@eqpizzaAhah here are my requests : "Heart of Stone" or "Lovely Dark and Deep - The Greatwood". Anyway, don't push yourself, do what you want. It's sure that FF16 score is a masterpiece, so any track will be fine.
if anything, this goes far in showing how bad the FF7 soundfont was at the time. It was one of the reasons why people would say that 6s soundtrack was better than 7s - partially because the soundfont was of higher quality than 7s, despite being on an older system. Nobuo Uematsu thought that the sound would take up too much space, and intentionally downgraded the quality. Didnt change the fact that the compositions themselves were fantastic, and have long stood the test of time.
I think it's true that taken individually, ff7's sounds are kinda bad but still they somehow have their own personality and can actually work well together. I dind't really think about it that much while making this, since it's just for fun, but i guess this soundfont does play a part in making 7's soundtrack so memorable despite its choppiness and, by extension, it's cool to hear it in other contexts maybe idk
![FFXVI - Away [FF VII soundfont + VOCALS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zvpoA1l3xRE/mqdefault.jpg)
![FFXVI - Away [FF VII soundfont + VOCALS]](/img/tr.png)
![Final Fantasy XVI - Ascension [FF VI soundfont]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nj_QpGUOPyE/mqdefault.jpg)
This Fort Condor shit is serious
Yeah!
When the Condor becomes a Phoenix
be ready to die behind it
More like fort butthole
“What is it?”
“President Shinra ! It’s Phoenix WEAPON, it’s heading to Midgar”
Cool!
After having played ff16 i literally cant see a summon as just a creature anymore ill always be thinking of them as clive joshua jill cid benedikta hugo dion and barnabas
then who is alexander
COUGHING BABY
now it sounds like one of the weapons attack lol
Indeed!
I think this being in this soundfont shows how good of a replacement Soken was for Uematsu, this borderline sounds like a song that you COULD have heard in FF7
Nope. Any ff except 7 or 10.
This is basic in comparison, sorry.
To me it was other way around. This composition doesn't work in simple form and it needs those big layers of sound to feel impactful.
@@YaBoiJeffe Always that one guy...
@@gavo7911 hm? The one that voices an uneducated opinion on a subject?
This isn't about subjective musical taste either, this person compared two composers work.
I am educated in the field, so I shared my opinion and was apologetic for being disagreeable.
You ever wonder why 7 and 10 were so successful? The music *, coincidentally, evokes the most emotion because of how is written and arranged. Pretty important when you're looking at Lego characters.
Always that one guy, adding nothing to the conversation.
Edit: the other games have great stories too, but why aren't they popular?
@@ketthefox Disagree, feels plenty impactful to me
Damn this was amazing. Now I kinda wanna know what some ff7 tracks would sound like as 16 tracks.
Especially jenova.
I still haven't heard the Rebirth version but i'm guessing that's the closest we'll get, at least in terms of sound quality 🤔🤔
@eqpizza its pretty good. Tho I personally prefer the remake one
@@eqpizza Oh no. Not at all. The Rebirth version sounds like it came from another franchise (won't spoil it, but you will IMMEDIATELY know which one I'm talking about).
@@RedAlpha101 JENOVA Quickening is pretty awesome, with the whole buildup to the original tempo
Very interesting!
from what ive noticed (maybe im wrong) soken is more about building up ONE BIG emotional/powerfull momment meanwhile uematso is more about the whole piece maintaining an idea.
does that make sense?
like, in most soken themes there is always this one big momment that elevates the piece or makes it really hut like in awake, heroes, invincible, Ultima (both ARR and ShB) etc.
meanwhile most uematsu themes (even the ones with very clear climax) feel focused in maintaining a specific mood/emotion.
and i love both tbh.
Yeah, I definitely notice what you mean more when it comes to FFXIs Uematsu pieces, most of them have a consistent feeling throughout (rolanberry fields/ Tu’Lia) and a sort of closing bit at the end before they loop whereas a lot of soken’s pieces kind of have that “chorus” that’s really the high point of the songs (Wayward Daughter). I agree with you I love them both. Final fantasy has ALWAYS had banging soundtracks in literally every single game even the spin-offs idk why people argue about soken vs uematsu they’re both some of the best composers in the gaming industry by a country mile
@@deefour28 I heard someone say once "why does Soken need to slap a Chorus into every single track" but I actually prefer it this way. It all builds up to that one moment and it really catches you off guard. Like in Wayward Daughter, Ascension, and Away, it is brilliantly built up until the chorus hits.
You make it sound like those guys should work on one song together
Could be the most legendary thing is history
I think you can pin that down to the kind of games that Soken and Uematsu are composing for. The games Uematsu did are largely turn-based, meaning that the music more or less needed to have a very even pace. The music has to fit the scene, after all.
Soken is composing for things like FF14 and FF16. Fast paced, high octane fights with very specific scripted moments. That's why even his remixes of older tracks are much faster paced and transform into "his style". It's all about the buildup because that's what the players are going for too. We're playing for those limit breaks, phase changes, DPS checks. Turn-based players are fighting to survive, to get off their skills/spells with every turn as the boss ticks closer to wiping them out...hence why the music is more of a march.
FF14's From the Heavens in Omega Protocol (Ultimate) is definitive evidence of the style that music composers like Soken and Copeland do. The climaxes of the song were specifically timed to link up to enrage/phase changes.
If Uematsu was actively working in the game environments like the ones we currently see, I expect that he may have taken a different route with his compositions.
WHAT?! Why is this so perfect?
Its not its shit
@@Astreon123 oh my mistake, thanks for letting me know!
Because it is.
I prefer his VI version of Ascension but this is still quite good
Ascension would be so awesome in that style as well. Love this
This has great epicness and a unique style with the FF VII fonts
8bitピコピコリメイクはたくさんあるけど、
FF7風サウンドリメイクは新しい
いいねこれ
HELLO this is fantastic! And such an epic undertaking, wow. Like someone said it really sounds like a WEAPON attack score. The way you've programmed the strings or something, sounds particularly FFVII authentic.
Thanks! These sounds are so versatile, given how old they are 🤯
Love this! Would like to hear No Risk No Reward in this style!
Plllllleeeeeaaaassse
This is excellent. also shows the brilliance of the original
This is absolutely incredible. You did an amazing job here
this brought goosebumps to my arms yo! ITS SO BEAUTIFUL
I can hear the battle sound effects that's how accurate it is nice job! Would love to hear an Ascension version
This is so good until my brain got confused to the max as a 16 and long time fan of 7. This track is so awesome🎉
This sounds so fitting, brilliant idea!
This is incredible !!! I love so much this part 5:49
This is amazing, thank you so much!
1:36 - I always thought Soken took inspiration for that part from Those Who Fight Further from FFVII.
thank you bro, you doing God's work🥺❤
Phenomenal work, my man 🙏
Your content is awesome!! You deserve more views!
Incredible stuff here! Great work 💯
This sounds amazing! Thank you!
I may not have vibed with FF16 as a game BUT the soundtrack is amazing, Soken always blows me away every time. This is really good, i loved hearing it with ff7 sound font ❤
Alternative theme for the Weapons Fight
THIS IS AMAZING
love this, executed perfectly.
Incredible!
PLEASE DO THE FIND THE FLAME TOO! THIS IS COOL!!
That one might be a little hard but if i manage to make it i'll upload it!!
@@eqpizza god speed for that, i wish you good luck!
I desperately need "No risk, no reward" in the ffvii soundfont!
You did a wonderful job ❤
Damn, this is really good
This is so sick
Awesome
SUPERB
I need more of this, please!
This is amazing
Nice fan version!!
Goes nicely with the official chiptune version.
PLEASE MORE OF THIS!!
Thank you.
Can you do All as One (specifically that variation, as opposed to Find the Flame)
As a certified Tifa Enjoyer i approve of this 👍
🇮🇹?
Please do more of these
Dude find the flame, ascension, and my star would be so good in this style
Nice!!
Amazing work ! Are you already planning other tracks from FF16?
I was suggested to do Find the Flame so maybe i'll try that one
What about to sail forbidden seas
Honestly every FF16 track is so cool but also a bit hard to remake😭😭but i will keep every suggestion in mind
@@eqpizzaAhah here are my requests : "Heart of Stone" or "Lovely Dark and Deep - The Greatwood". Anyway, don't push yourself, do what you want. It's sure that FF16 score is a masterpiece, so any track will be fine.
Now imagine Barnabas Tharmr's theme mixed with Rufus Shinra's theme
JOSHUA!!!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
please please do heart of stone next that would sound insane
this rules
where did you get those sounds?
i want to try and mess around with it if you could tell me where you got them
I've found them here: musical-artifacts.com/artifacts/588
Please do All As One next
Bro pls make more 🙏🙏
Where do you find the FF7 soundfont??
Here! musical-artifacts.com/artifacts/588
FIND THE FLAME PLEAEEEE
FFVII x FFXVI 😆
Sephiroth vs Lightning
Final fantasy universe: ☠️☠️
3:20 Supernova vs Limit Break ☠️☠️👻👻
if anything, this goes far in showing how bad the FF7 soundfont was at the time.
It was one of the reasons why people would say that 6s soundtrack was better than 7s - partially because the soundfont was of higher quality than 7s, despite being on an older system. Nobuo Uematsu thought that the sound would take up too much space, and intentionally downgraded the quality. Didnt change the fact that the compositions themselves were fantastic, and have long stood the test of time.
I think it's true that taken individually, ff7's sounds are kinda bad but still they somehow have their own personality and can actually work well together. I dind't really think about it that much while making this, since it's just for fun, but i guess this soundfont does play a part in making 7's soundtrack so memorable despite its choppiness and, by extension, it's cool to hear it in other contexts maybe idk