katniss is literally the ICON of teen dystopian movies, she’s the only reason why they became so popular. tris is just the byproduct of katniss’ effect on the movie industry 😭
@elizabeth-js8ko I'm not saying I don't see the appeal of him but I hate soft boys getting used so I don't like him for ending up with her. I wish he grew up and away from her. Their whole thing is why I couldn't read past the first book.
Bruh Tris made me VIOLENTLY mad in the books. She would legit change her position and opinion in the SAME PARAGRAPH! She would go from “I don’t belong in dauntless I’m a fraud” to “I’m the only true dauntless in this whole place the rest are cowards” IT WAS MADDENING
@@katm8128 agreed! I think it works well when it comes from doubt, but some authors try it, and it just comes off as contradictory instead. Which makes for SUCH a frustrating read
the fact that you can accurately discern what katniss’ opinion would be but no one has a clue on tris’ stance is just more proof that only one of them had an actual personality
Hunger games was actual political commentary about class divide, rebellion, and genuine emotional stakes. Divergent is if you distilled hunger games to its “cool” elements (the neat little districts defined by a single thing, the solo girl who’s a bad ass rebel against the big bad gov, romantic angsts) without the same substance behind it that made HG profound.…
i literally talked about this the other day, it actually has really good political commentary, meanwhile all the copycats just did “a minority of cool people with epic powers are oppressed” instead of innocent people, an entire generation.
I'm sorry but I really like Tris more 😭 Katniss is of course a great character in every possible way but Tris resonated with me in a lot of ways, I liked her inner conflict throughout the series and her development.
@@japanpepper it's just not the truth though, she cared deeply about her father and had nightmares about his death for YEARS after it happened and she cared about her mother a lot as well even when she was angry about her becoming unresponsive she also cared about gale with her constantly thinking about him and regretting doing things that impacted him she cared about peeta literally going into the 75th games with the soul purpose of keeping him alive, she cared about finnick and Johanna and effie and haymich, she literally said haymich was her family now, but ig if you wna say that that's "not caring about anyone other than prim" you can say that but just know it's wrong aha
As someone who likes neither Hunger Games or Divergent, I can confidently say that Katniss may not have won 2014 MTV movie awards, but she def won the test of time. People still talk about hunger games, almost no one talks about Divergent
as a young teen I never saw anything wrong with her but now that I'm an adult and I've rewatched the first two movies it's clear how insufferable she is 😭😭😭
Katniss as a character has aged so much better than tris like... can yall name a single iconic moment of hers that showed character development? Cuz i can name like 10 with katniss 😭😭
@@H.3.a.r.t.sshe’s special for having more than one personality trait, yet she is simultaneously the most boring and lifeless character to read 🤩🤩 that’s an achievement
I had suppressed memories of this or something because the war flashbacks didn't hit until he was talking about how Katniss didn't win and the time difference and everyone being upset that. No wonder I was so upset that katniss since before that. I was there and had forgotten!
I was in elementary school when this was occurring, and thankfully I wasn’t on social media to vote. What I do remember is playing “Hunger Games” with my classmates during recess. We’d climb trees and throw our backpacks at each other to count as a “kill” lol
We used to do that when I was in middle school! Though ours was more of a tag game. I remember one time everyone got into a huge fight about who won so we kind of stopped playing it after that😂
How iconic was Katniss? When I saw her name I already knew who's face/character! It legit took me having to see her picture in the video to remember Divergent.
I still owe the divergent stans an ass whooping because wtf and what makes me upset is that so many of the Tris voters were people who hopped off the katniss train because she became "too mainstream" 💀.
i’m terrified i’m going to see my tweets in this vid 💀 edit: thankfully i was not featured. thank you everyone for your services during this fandom war.
@@4swordsluverthankfully not 😭 i just remember tweeting at school using a VPN and all my tweets were taking ages to send, and then suddenly they all sent at once and my timeline was in tatters 😭😭😭
As someone who only read Divergent, even made my nickname Tris and still am going by that nickname to this day, Katniss deserved to win. She was the queen of YA dystopian genre
"And outsold the Hunger Games in every category ✌" Except the box office. And getting all your books made into movies. And the fandom surviving until the current day with a new movie coming out. You bet your ass Katniss still has shooters out here!
Its pretty crazy they didn't initially have Katniss on the hero list, HG was huge. Also the bleeps are significantly louder than the rest of the audio.
YA genre was OP back then. They were the meta. Which reminds me of how they would fare if there were voting competitions for movies and TV shows like a LiveJournal page had back then...
I would have fallen for it actually, and tweeted "Well the question of 'what if everyone was poor while a small minority of out of touch people had all the money, and peaceful protesters against the system were met with violence' is a way better question than 'what if the world was divided up into peaceful people, brave people, generous people, smart people, and honest people, but you were oppressed for having more than one personality trait' is" Now that I think about it, does this imply that none of the other factions have the ability to express honesty? Like is Tris incapable of carrying the trait of honesty and HAS to be deceitful because she has no aptitude for anything else? What even is honesty as a trait to define yourself by? Not lying is such a passive trait.
The difference is one is well written and the other is divergent. Props to divergent for actually committing to killing the main character though! Maybe the one single interesting thing that happened in the series
@@c.jhamblin5759but that also only happened bc veronica roth wanted to beat the Hunger Games rip off allegations 🤠🤠🤠 like i’m all for killing off characters, especially main characters, to raise the stakes or if it makes sense thematically but miss roth just did it to do it which is a bit boooo tomato tomato imo
regarding the girl who tweeted #votekatniss 600 times, there's a chance it wasn't actually a bot😭 speaking from experience. my sister used to be a huge 5 seconds of summer fan and the band got into a lot of competitions based on hashtags like this one, so she would get me and my cousin to log into her twitter account and all 3 of us spammed hashtags until we got into the thousands💀
Who in their right mind would vote Tris?? My friend lended me the Divergent books in middle school and I couldn't STAND her, she somehow managed to be the most infuriating and yet mediocre character I've ever seen in my 20 years of life. Katniss may not have the most unique personality or anything, but at least she was interesting and had an actual character arc (and she got all of her movies)
The fact that the toxic insults the fandoms throw at the other's fave makes them look like saints compared to how armies and blinks talk about the other's fave on twitter in 2023
Girl. I've seen blinks harass the family of a missing victim because she was army, they're UNHINGED. Worst thing I've ever seen an army do is say bp are flops who don't write their music which is objectively true lol
Tris won but in the end I guess the Katniss fans got the last laugh because I genuinely have not thought about divergent since 2014 except in the context of “wow that series was kinda shit”
As someone who read both books and watched both titles, I can’t believe tris “the one who had a shorter lifespan than Katniss and didn’t even win the revolution” won over Katniss Everdeen! If you put them both in a room and forced them to fight, tris would start the fight and lose to Katniss.
Finally for once when someone asks me “what monumental thing happened on your birthday” imma just show them this video. Also Katniss should have won lol
The people using family as an argument against Katniss????????? Did they not read the damn books??????? Anyways, I feel like if this had happened today the word brutal would still be an understatement lol. I would be in the trenches for Katniss.
I would’ve been on Team Katniss, but I would also point out to them that in its bluntest form, the argument about rigging doesn’t seem to hold that much weight since Katniss also gained significant votes after the voting allegedly closed. If it was actually rigged for a specific character, you’d see more evidence, like the idea that Katniss voters stopped after a point while Tris voters continued. Sad as it is to say, I think that us Katniss fans were outplayed on this one and Tris voters managed to steal it from under them. The rules were poorly laid out and in contradiction of themselves from the start anyway.
They should’ve had a voting poll on the website instead of this social media nonsense, like how the people behind this not realize that the hashtags could’ve been rigged as well?
This one always confused tf out of me as an outsider random ass guy looking in. I read the hunger games books, and still to this day, even though I am now an adult man, the books hold up immaculately. The small details in the books that are translated to film vrs the parts they opted to leave out through the hunger games movies still holds strong as an adult to this day. I cant say the same for divergent whatsoever. I read the books, the same as the hunger games; but it was a large dose of second hand embarrassment and being genuinely confused about how the world operated or how it even functioned that long under the system presented in the books. The writing was just so poor in comparison to the hunger games that translating it to film just brought all of the second hand embarrassment onto the big screen. With every new divergent movie, the worse they got. I have absolutely no clue what made people enjoy, like, or find any sort of emotional attachment to the characters in the divergent films, ESPECIALLY the main character 😅 I WASNT even the target demographic for the hunger games, and yet its by far one of my favourite book to movie adaptations to date, while the books hold up right alongside. Divergent was.. A literal dumpster fire 😅💀
Fr people think message boards were but Tumblr fandoms are what really made the internet what it is. Arguing and fighting with a bit of IP leaking thrown in.
You just made me remember i fought for katniss in vain, though gives me some kinda cringey feeling after remembering what i did back in the time, i miss my old accounts :(
@@quietopinion9637 Divergent is/was just a blatant attempt by Lionsgate to create a cash cow. It has no meaningful story, it's the most vanilla, generic Y/A Dystopia series ever created - its sole reason for existence was to ride off the coattails of THG's success. THG was/is a genuinely well crafted story first and foremost and that's the reason why it holds up so well today compared to all the other Y/A Dystopian series of the 2010s.
Biggest bs I've ever seen in entertainment history to be quite f-ing honest. Tris could NEVER. Katniss is MOTHER! For real, check the records. Who actually survived through their heroic actions? Just sayin' ✋🏻🙄
i tweeted #votekatniss 1k times too but manually (now deleted tweets) 😭😭😭😭😭 can't believe screenshots of my old friend's tweets of 2014 war got here lol 😭😭 we were edgy 15year-olds, don't judge us too hard please lmao now I'm 24 and I still love hunger games and would fight for katniss again!! THG franchise truly shaped me as a person, will be grateful for it till the day I die
I was Loki Army and seen Katniss clearly winning as opposed to my fav, I didn't know Triss so I voted Katniss. 😅 Today in 2023 I'm actually reading the Hunger Games on a deep dive. Gotta say, glad all those yrs ago I voted Katniss 😂
Katniss is such a good character, especially with the context of The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, a book set about 50 years before she was eveb born. Im team mockingjay #VOTEKATNISS
Sorry for telling this to people who love tris but actual teenagers dont even remember who tris is I had a hard time remembering who she was that even had to google it Meanwhile Katniss is iconic till today
I wasn't even in this fandom back then as I was 6 years old but I'm enraged that tris won Katniss is obviously superior why can't people see that #VoteKatniss
Welp- must be living under a rock since I only watched divergent and hunger games in 2016. I was 11 at that time and never thought that these two movies would compete each other 😀.
Pretty ironic that, now, most people agree that Divergent kinda sucked and is barely even mentioned outside of “bad book” circles, yet Hunger Games is still a juggernaut in the dystopian genre, not to mention still getting movies and books. We may have lost the battle, but we won the war
I think the lasting cultural impact of THG (esp with the renaissance this year) is proof of who the true winner was in the end! Seriously tho, online polls have sparked some of THE worst fandom wars I have ever witnessed. Like, seriously ugly behavior. One day you’re minding your business and the next you’ve been unwittingly recruited and you don’t know how to climb out of the trenches 😭
7:34 Katniss went into the hungers games twice, saw many of the people she loved die and fought in a war all between 16-17, yet crows attacking you is far worse
Divergent fans may have won that battle, but THG fans won the war in the end. (on a real note though, it's crazy how mtv basically put 2 strong female dystopian leads against each other)
What I find ironic is that this started on April 1st, mtv straight up pitted the internet against itself after it united against mtv, and no one even noticed.
I #votekatiniss because of all the good in both books, hunger games had a strong social commentary, has a good storyline and character development, and honestly the world was way more immersive than divergent imo.
this really brought back memories, this exact voting system was the reason I didn't watch any more divergent movies and I won't, nor will my children and I celebrated when it got cancelled, thanks to this mtv award.
katniss is literally the ICON of teen dystopian movies, she’s the only reason why they became so popular. tris is just the byproduct of katniss’ effect on the movie industry 😭
FR tho! The only thing Tris has on Katnis is a cooler/better boyfriend. I dislike both Peeta & the other guy(Gale?)
@@FMFF_ whatt peeta is an angel omg
ikr i was team katniss
@elizabeth-js8ko I'm not saying I don't see the appeal of him but I hate soft boys getting used so I don't like him for ending up with her. I wish he grew up and away from her. Their whole thing is why I couldn't read past the first book.
@FMFF_ peeta is very much his own person apart from katniss tho, especially in the 3rd book
“This is our chance to beat Katniss and the other girl” PLEASE- THIS TWEET JUST SHOWS THAT KATNISS OUTSHINES
💀💀
nah fr, katniss and the *other girl*
FR
I thought the same. This shows how Katniss is an icon even outside THG fandom, while Tris is... damn, even T-ig-ris is better than her.
@@JustCalebbxhey don’t diss my girl Tigris like that
Never heard of this but I’m outraged that tris won
ohhhh no spoiler ahhahahaha
katniss got all of her movies meanwhile tris didn’t even have her fourth movie
same, let's have a rematch
omg spoilerrrr
SPOILER ALERT 😂
Bruh Tris made me VIOLENTLY mad in the books. She would legit change her position and opinion in the SAME PARAGRAPH! She would go from “I don’t belong in dauntless I’m a fraud” to “I’m the only true dauntless in this whole place the rest are cowards” IT WAS MADDENING
In himdsight, Tris was THE WORSTTTT. Katniss was and still is an icon tho
@@erikdaniels0nI couldn’t read more than the first book. She was so miserable I couldn’t force myself to deal with more of her.
that sort of flip flop of mindset could have actually made for decent characterization if only it was executed well
@@katm8128 agreed! I think it works well when it comes from doubt, but some authors try it, and it just comes off as contradictory instead. Which makes for SUCH a frustrating read
@@raicrushI think I got 3/4ths way through the book, koodos for getting to the end of it!
The account tweeting #VoteKatniss every day until THIS YEAR has me dead lmao
they've just been training for the rematch
@@onedirectioninfection5756They prepped for their own version of the Quarter Quell.
#VoteKatniss
@@onedirectioninfection5756 these internet boxing matches are getting out of hand.
theyre so me loll
FR 😭
The fact that Katniss would realistically find this so ridiculous
the fact that you can accurately discern what katniss’ opinion would be but no one has a clue on tris’ stance is just more proof that only one of them had an actual personality
i fully agree but also like i think she would also hate tris
@@koiloylo this took me out
team katniss is obviously superior
@@RuinedDreemurrKatniss was a cultural reset. You can't tell me otherwise.
@@RuinedDreemurrbch dont try it
KATNISS IS THE BEST
@Ks-101Yeah keep in mind. Most people on UA-cam are 10 LOL
@Ks-101like, if it was popular to say 1 plus 1 equaled 3. People would like the comment saying that over it being 2 lol.
Hunger games was actual political commentary about class divide, rebellion, and genuine emotional stakes. Divergent is if you distilled hunger games to its “cool” elements (the neat little districts defined by a single thing, the solo girl who’s a bad ass rebel against the big bad gov, romantic angsts) without the same substance behind it that made HG profound.…
Ok...
i literally talked about this the other day, it actually has really good political commentary, meanwhile all the copycats just did “a minority of cool people with epic powers are oppressed” instead of innocent people, an entire generation.
@@TheSultan1470I mean they're right
Well, hunger games depicts what's going to happen.
@@Orophile_303 I'm picking "Gun" as my expertise
Tris had nothing on Katniss
#VOTEKATNISS
You take that back
@@godiswithyou.5358 Tris didn't even survive her franchise
@@Rochell_Roding real
@@Rochell_Rodingdang 💀
Y'all dvmb
IMAGINE VOTING TRISS
😂
Straight up mindless bandwagon behaviour, the new girl is never that great.
How dare they. Katniss is everything Tris wishes she was.
XD I never liked Katniss, Tris is a better person
I'm sorry but I really like Tris more 😭 Katniss is of course a great character in every possible way but Tris resonated with me in a lot of ways, I liked her inner conflict throughout the series and her development.
Me never even having heard of this war yet still get genuinely upset that Tris side won👁️👄👁️
me too, wtffff
Fr
Fr
that's me right now
cuz the votes are rigged, or tris's fans are simply lifeless 💀
"This is our chance to beat Katniss and the other girl!" 😭😭😭
if that tweet doesn't prove katniss' superiority and iconicism idk what does
Katniss is just a normal girl, she didn't care about anyone really, but her sister.
@@japanpepperwrong also found a triss voter 🫵🏻😂
@@dankdanny9883 I never voted for her lol. It's the truth where you agree or not.
@@japanpepper it's just not the truth though, she cared deeply about her father and had nightmares about his death for YEARS after it happened and she cared about her mother a lot as well even when she was angry about her becoming unresponsive she also cared about gale with her constantly thinking about him and regretting doing things that impacted him she cared about peeta literally going into the 75th games with the soul purpose of keeping him alive, she cared about finnick and Johanna and effie and haymich, she literally said haymich was her family now, but ig if you wna say that that's "not caring about anyone other than prim" you can say that but just know it's wrong aha
katniss IS THE BLUEPRINT i’m sooo shocked trash tris won
For real Triss was trash, and the actress was really pretty bad(at least in the first film) couldn't struggle through the rest of that boring series.
As someone who likes neither Hunger Games or Divergent, I can confidently say that Katniss may not have won 2014 MTV movie awards, but she def won the test of time. People still talk about hunger games, almost no one talks about Divergent
The MTV Movie Awards have always been sh** anyway.
Did they even watch divergent, how can you vote for tris?
She is probably one the most mediocore character ever written.
Her sidekick who's name I don't remember>>>>> Katniss>> Tris
when you're between the ages of 11-16 you can delude yourself into thinking anything is good.
source: i used to be this kid
as a young teen I never saw anything wrong with her but now that I'm an adult and I've rewatched the first two movies it's clear how insufferable she is 😭😭😭
@@fey0217especially when a character has so little personality (Tris) that anyone can project themselves onto them!
Katniss as a character has aged so much better than tris like... can yall name a single iconic moment of hers that showed character development? Cuz i can name like 10 with katniss 😭😭
She ummm used to not belong to abnegation but she doesn't belong to any of the other 4 now:D
@@H.3.a.r.t.sshe’s special for having more than one personality trait, yet she is simultaneously the most boring and lifeless character to read 🤩🤩 that’s an achievement
Tobias has more character development than Tris imo
@@faevondergeist67 Facts
@koiloylo her personality traits are boring AND soulless!!!
the flashbacks i got when i saw the title. proud to say i failed and skipped many tests that day to prove my love for katniss😭
atleast you were on the right side of history
I had suppressed memories of this or something because the war flashbacks didn't hit until he was talking about how Katniss didn't win and the time difference and everyone being upset that.
No wonder I was so upset that katniss since before that. I was there and had forgotten!
I was in elementary school when this was occurring, and thankfully I wasn’t on social media to vote. What I do remember is playing “Hunger Games” with my classmates during recess. We’d climb trees and throw our backpacks at each other to count as a “kill” lol
Damn, that sounds fun
omg that sounds so much fun! good for you!!
Omg hahahahah
We used to do that when I was in middle school! Though ours was more of a tag game. I remember one time everyone got into a huge fight about who won so we kind of stopped playing it after that😂
as someone who managed to get _tag_ banned from my school playground, how the FUCK did you get away with that
How iconic was Katniss? When I saw her name I already knew who's face/character! It legit took me having to see her picture in the video to remember Divergent.
I still owe the divergent stans an ass whooping because wtf and what makes me upset is that so many of the Tris voters were people who hopped off the katniss train because she became "too mainstream" 💀.
imagine ever being a fan of divergent lmaoo #votekatniss
Hi I’m a fellow fan of both
@@Princessm1320no you’re not #votekatniss
literally divergent it a piss poor version of hunger games 💀💀
Divergent was great and had amazing word building, but THG was more complex, thought-provoking, and had even better world building
@@christina4012 LMAOOO HADDD???????????????
i’m terrified i’m going to see my tweets in this vid 💀
edit: thankfully i was not featured. thank you everyone for your services during this fandom war.
Did you tho 👀
@@4swordsluverthankfully not 😭 i just remember tweeting at school using a VPN and all my tweets were taking ages to send, and then suddenly they all sent at once and my timeline was in tatters 😭😭😭
@@kaylanotkylaHUH???
Just curious tho… who did you vote for?
“you should eat” being connected to this whole debacle was so unexpected
The only thing I can say about divergent vs thg is that Veronica Roth said she wrote divergent in a week.... and we can tell #VoteKatniss
As someone who only read Divergent, even made my nickname Tris and still am going by that nickname to this day, Katniss deserved to win. She was the queen of YA dystopian genre
I was definitely team Tris at the time but after rewatching the divergent movies recently I realized how wrong I was 😭
😭
U on enemy lines rn 😭
Glad ur #VoteKatniss now, all Tris did was flop
I think the books and their version of Triss are better than the movie
Let me guess you were team tris because of your name?
"And outsold the Hunger Games in every category ✌"
Except the box office. And getting all your books made into movies. And the fandom surviving until the current day with a new movie coming out.
You bet your ass Katniss still has shooters out here!
Its pretty crazy they didn't initially have Katniss on the hero list, HG was huge. Also the bleeps are significantly louder than the rest of the audio.
My friend once referred to Divergent as the “Poor Man’s Hunger Games” and honestly as a fan of both when I was younger, she was right
It's been exactly 10 years since voting started. I grew up absolutely loving Hunger Games. I've never heard of Divergent in my life. #VoteKatniss
Divergent, Hunger Games and TFIOS really had a chokehold in my life during the mid-2010s. Thanks Joe for this 🤍
It was a whole era.
Same!! 😩 divergent was my shit!! So was the hunger games
YA genre was OP back then. They were the meta.
Which reminds me of how they would fare if there were voting competitions for movies and TV shows like a LiveJournal page had back then...
Tfios?
@gourabmukherjee2708 the fault in our stars
One day I got bored and just tweeted for someone to explain me how Divergent was any different of Hunger Games knowing people would be mad. It was fun
doing this rn just to feel something
@@michelleb2722 A stan Divergent account started fighting me and urging others to harass me without never noticing I was living for the drama
I would have fallen for it actually, and tweeted "Well the question of 'what if everyone was poor while a small minority of out of touch people had all the money, and peaceful protesters against the system were met with violence' is a way better question than 'what if the world was divided up into peaceful people, brave people, generous people, smart people, and honest people, but you were oppressed for having more than one personality trait' is"
Now that I think about it, does this imply that none of the other factions have the ability to express honesty? Like is Tris incapable of carrying the trait of honesty and HAS to be deceitful because she has no aptitude for anything else? What even is honesty as a trait to define yourself by? Not lying is such a passive trait.
The difference is one is well written and the other is divergent.
Props to divergent for actually committing to killing the main character though! Maybe the one single interesting thing that happened in the series
@@c.jhamblin5759but that also only happened bc veronica roth wanted to beat the Hunger Games rip off allegations 🤠🤠🤠 like i’m all for killing off characters, especially main characters, to raise the stakes or if it makes sense thematically but miss roth just did it to do it which is a bit boooo tomato tomato imo
As soon as you said fans could see the number of votes live during voting, I knew this would be a mess
i cried when i saw this
so real
#votekatniss
regarding the girl who tweeted #votekatniss 600 times, there's a chance it wasn't actually a bot😭 speaking from experience. my sister used to be a huge 5 seconds of summer fan and the band got into a lot of competitions based on hashtags like this one, so she would get me and my cousin to log into her twitter account and all 3 of us spammed hashtags until we got into the thousands💀
Lol
i thoght i was a 5sos superfan, then i read this
Who the hell would vote for Tris? Honest question
I don't hate Tris.
But Katniss is still the much better character.
I would've back then 😂😂
from what i remember, most of the people who said divergent was better than the hunger games were in their ‘not like other girls’ phase at the time
Who in their right mind would vote Tris?? My friend lended me the Divergent books in middle school and I couldn't STAND her, she somehow managed to be the most infuriating and yet mediocre character I've ever seen in my 20 years of life. Katniss may not have the most unique personality or anything, but at least she was interesting and had an actual character arc (and she got all of her movies)
And she got all of her movies !😂😂😂
It is been a long time I read the books bit what exactly was annoying about Tris ?
even the loki voters dragged tris lol
Katniss is just superior to the entire world sorry also team peeta
#fuckgale
Totally agree! Also your cat is so cute!!
Ah i see, a person of culture you are!
TEAM PEETA!
Yes, there was never a "Team" it was always Peeta and that's a fact 🔥😌
It's funnier when u find out Divergent was a hunger games fanfic. So Tris is wallmart Katniss
i was #votekatniss then and i’m #votekatniss now
Miss Tris didn't even get to finish her film series. At least Katniss got all her movies. Team Katniss lol.
The fact that the toxic insults the fandoms throw at the other's fave makes them look like saints compared to how armies and blinks talk about the other's fave on twitter in 2023
That's true love right there
exo-ls and armys in 2017/18 was also an era
nah the og is Sones (Girls Generation) VS blackjacks (2ne1)
@@goldenfriedrice217 I don’t even wanna know😭😭😭 so happy I wasn’t on kpop fandom back then cus I know they were brutal
Girl. I've seen blinks harass the family of a missing victim because she was army, they're UNHINGED. Worst thing I've ever seen an army do is say bp are flops who don't write their music which is objectively true lol
Tris won but in the end I guess the Katniss fans got the last laugh because I genuinely have not thought about divergent since 2014 except in the context of “wow that series was kinda shit”
I have a few ideas for you:
- Jiafei
- The Dress (White Gold/Black Blue)
- Morbius
We need Jiafei.
He did Jiafei❤❤❤❤❤
They did jiafei
Proud to say that I participated in this war and was severely disappointed when she lost to Tris 😔
As someone who read both books and watched both titles, I can’t believe tris “the one who had a shorter lifespan than Katniss and didn’t even win the revolution” won over Katniss Everdeen!
If you put them both in a room and forced them to fight, tris would start the fight and lose to Katniss.
Finally for once when someone asks me “what monumental thing happened on your birthday” imma just show them this video. Also Katniss should have won lol
Can't tell of you mean todays your b-day, but if it is Happy Birthday!!🎉🎉
@@forthelowpriceof4.99 nah it’s on the 13th of April lol
3:30 didn't the entire series start with tris leaving her family lol
Tris left her family
Katniss fought *for* her family (and the nation)
The people using family as an argument against Katniss????????? Did they not read the damn books???????
Anyways, I feel like if this had happened today the word brutal would still be an understatement lol. I would be in the trenches for Katniss.
same and I don’t even have twitter
I would literally make a twitter account to vote for katniss and then threaten my friends to do the same
There'd be doxxing, death threats, call out posts, deplatforming- it would be hell if it happened today.
I rode so hard for #votekatniss 😂 I remember thinking “tris could never she’s a wannabe copy cat” I was so shady as a lil boy
knowing that joe regrets was on tumblr in the same circles as me is so wild. like, we could have spoken omggg lol. this was such a messy time
I would’ve been on Team Katniss, but I would also point out to them that in its bluntest form, the argument about rigging doesn’t seem to hold that much weight since Katniss also gained significant votes after the voting allegedly closed. If it was actually rigged for a specific character, you’d see more evidence, like the idea that Katniss voters stopped after a point while Tris voters continued. Sad as it is to say, I think that us Katniss fans were outplayed on this one and Tris voters managed to steal it from under them. The rules were poorly laid out and in contradiction of themselves from the start anyway.
They should’ve had a voting poll on the website instead of this social media nonsense, like how the people behind this not realize that the hashtags could’ve been rigged as well?
I totally would’ve spammed #votekatniss, but sadly my mom didn't let me have a Twitter account until I was 16. It probably was for the best tho😅
Same. They did then right thing lol
7:45 “#voteforkatniss she had better hair” LMAOO TEA
This one always confused tf out of me as an outsider random ass guy looking in. I read the hunger games books, and still to this day, even though I am now an adult man, the books hold up immaculately. The small details in the books that are translated to film vrs the parts they opted to leave out through the hunger games movies still holds strong as an adult to this day.
I cant say the same for divergent whatsoever. I read the books, the same as the hunger games; but it was a large dose of second hand embarrassment and being genuinely confused about how the world operated or how it even functioned that long under the system presented in the books. The writing was just so poor in comparison to the hunger games that translating it to film just brought all of the second hand embarrassment onto the big screen. With every new divergent movie, the worse they got. I have absolutely no clue what made people enjoy, like, or find any sort of emotional attachment to the characters in the divergent films, ESPECIALLY the main character 😅
I WASNT even the target demographic for the hunger games, and yet its by far one of my favourite book to movie adaptations to date, while the books hold up right alongside. Divergent was.. A literal dumpster fire 😅💀
well divergent was written in a week
@@jsbestoopidyeah we can tell lmao
OMG THIS IS SO FUNNY i was a big Hunger Games fan and I had no idea any of this happened!
What cary. You are here.
2014 fandom girlies are the founding fathers of the internet
Fr people think message boards were but Tumblr fandoms are what really made the internet what it is. Arguing and fighting with a bit of IP leaking thrown in.
A tear slipped out remembering this
You just made me remember i fought for katniss in vain, though gives me some kinda cringey feeling after remembering what i did back in the time, i miss my old accounts :(
#votekatniss winning is a cannon event, 9/11 never would've happened if katniss won
TeamKatniss is TASTE, Tris stays anonymous
relevance =/ quality
@@quietopinion9637TeamTris fails at both bestie
@@quietopinion9637tris stays shit either way ☠️ the character aged like milk
@@quietopinion9637 Divergent is/was just a blatant attempt by Lionsgate to create a cash cow. It has no meaningful story, it's the most vanilla, generic Y/A Dystopia series ever created - its sole reason for existence was to ride off the coattails of THG's success. THG was/is a genuinely well crafted story first and foremost and that's the reason why it holds up so well today compared to all the other Y/A Dystopian series of the 2010s.
Biggest bs I've ever seen in entertainment history to be quite f-ing honest. Tris could NEVER. Katniss is MOTHER! For real, check the records. Who actually survived through their heroic actions? Just sayin' ✋🏻🙄
i tweeted #votekatniss 1k times too but manually (now deleted tweets) 😭😭😭😭😭 can't believe screenshots of my old friend's tweets of 2014 war got here lol 😭😭 we were edgy 15year-olds, don't judge us too hard please lmao
now I'm 24 and I still love hunger games and would fight for katniss again!! THG franchise truly shaped me as a person, will be grateful for it till the day I die
Katniss may have lost the battle but won the war bc that recency bias with Tris really didn't pay off
God Divergent was so ass, why did we even breathe that in the same sentence as the Hunger Games
my favorite pop culture queen posted
Nah I was so happy Tris won at the time
then I read Allegiant which sent me into a rage spiral
i mean.... look who's still relevant to this day. Miss Everdeen
I was Loki Army and seen Katniss clearly winning as opposed to my fav, I didn't know Triss so I voted Katniss. 😅 Today in 2023 I'm actually reading the Hunger Games on a deep dive. Gotta say, glad all those yrs ago I voted Katniss 😂
Katniss is such a good character, especially with the context of The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, a book set about 50 years before she was eveb born. Im team mockingjay #VOTEKATNISS
Bruh, this was like the 2020 Election but for young teens and tweens 🤣
if a 2023 rematch does happen, im def on Team Katniss 🥵 also funny how that bot was able to capture votes in real-time better than mtv
idc what anyone says, this is peak 2014 fandom culture and i LOVE it
Sorry for telling this to people who love tris but actual teenagers dont even remember who tris is I had a hard time remembering who she was that even had to google it Meanwhile Katniss is iconic till today
hey queen! girl, you have done it again. constantly raising the bar for us all, and doing it flawlessly.
I remember the huge war while the voteloki team was like wheres lokis army lmao fun times
I wasn't even in this fandom back then as I was 6 years old but I'm enraged that tris won Katniss is obviously superior why can't people see that #VoteKatniss
Ngl but I didn't think Tris was a good enough character to even be worthy of this debate 😂
Welp- must be living under a rock since I only watched divergent and hunger games in 2016.
I was 11 at that time and never thought that these two movies would compete each other 😀.
Always a wonderful day when Joe Regrets uploads 🎉
frrr ❤
fandoms really are something 😭
There are people on the right side of history and then there’s #TeamTris
Pretty ironic that, now, most people agree that Divergent kinda sucked and is barely even mentioned outside of “bad book” circles, yet Hunger Games is still a juggernaut in the dystopian genre, not to mention still getting movies and books. We may have lost the battle, but we won the war
That intro went CRAZY
I think the lasting cultural impact of THG (esp with the renaissance this year) is proof of who the true winner was in the end!
Seriously tho, online polls have sparked some of THE worst fandom wars I have ever witnessed. Like, seriously ugly behavior. One day you’re minding your business and the next you’ve been unwittingly recruited and you don’t know how to climb out of the trenches 😭
Wasn’t even around for this but I’m mad that Tris won #voteKatniss
Veronica Roth actually rigged this #StopTheCount
7:34 Katniss went into the hungers games twice, saw many of the people she loved die and fought in a war all between 16-17, yet crows attacking you is far worse
Joe regrets please make more videos I'm suffering withdrawals and you're one of my fave channels ever pls pls
Divergent fans may have won that battle, but THG fans won the war in the end.
(on a real note though, it's crazy how mtv basically put 2 strong female dystopian leads against each other)
I bet they rigged it in the end because Jennifer Lawrence didnt attend the show so they had someone to give the award to.
in the end
katniss had a family with peeta and healed (kinda) from her mental wounds in the whole trilogy
tris *fucking died*
Lanas question for the culture post has become a fulfilled prophecy, I'm looking forward to seeing a video of yours about it ✨
What I find ironic is that this started on April 1st, mtv straight up pitted the internet against itself after it united against mtv, and no one even noticed.
I #votekatiniss because of all the good in both books, hunger games had a strong social commentary, has a good storyline and character development, and honestly the world was way more immersive than divergent imo.
this really brought back memories, this exact voting system was the reason I didn't watch any more divergent movies and I won't, nor will my children and I celebrated when it got cancelled, thanks to this mtv award.
I get the feeling the mortal instruments symbol is on 3:56 because Twilight doesn't have a symbol of its own.
Hydrogen Katniss vs Coughing Triss