Musician DISSECTS The Best Scenes In SOME KIND OF MONSTER by METALLICA!
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Correction: It was Bob Rock that wanted Holier Than Thou as the first Black album single not Lars. In the clip from A Year and a Half In the Life of Metallica they are sitting together and Lars is nodding along with Bob but turns out he wasn't agreeing after all. ;) Thanks to @ajzamojski for letting me know.
Mike, I haven't watched the video yet. I don't know if you know there is a book that came out shortly after that was written by the filmmakers called this monster lives. It's really good and they talk in depth about their Journey making the film and more about some of the things that went on with the band that wasn't included in the footage
Got that year and half documentary 2 video set for my 17th birthday back 91 or was it 92..?? Watched both of them that many times i felt like i was in metallica lol. I was obsessed with this band from 88 to 96. They seemed like such fun loving dudes, living the dream, so the some kinda monster documentary was a difficult watch, like invasion of the body snatchers, what happened to my heros kinda thing.
But also Bob does say that the lyrics werent great so i think that he wasnt a fan either.
I still always think of Bob Rock saying the song had cool dynamics on the er other Metallica documentary.
I wondered if the therapist's greatest contribution was to piss *everyone* off to the extent that he gave the band a common enemy to unite against.
LMFAO
and he was earning 40k a month to do that! god i wish
I think it was really like that. He had a background as a business psychologist, where his approach often was to create a team spirit by making the others ganging up on him in order to overcome their differences.
Well, kinda, but he definitely contributed more than that, because Metallica is still together and that 'common enemy' has left 20 years ago
nah. he probably tells everyone that's what his intention was. but that couldn't be further from the truth. watch his body language and posturing and wording. he's very manipulative. def high-ish IQ, but not high IQ enough to mastermind a plan like that. when he handed the lyrics to james, he really thought he did something. that wasn't an act. he was wicked butthurt that james thought it was silly.
Fav part of that documentary is when Lars’s dad says ‘delete that!’ 😂😂😂. Absolutely hilarious and honest advise on that weird song.
RIP Torbin Ulrich
But it actually was good, and that sucks
Also WRONG!. Thar weird transic section was the vest thing ive heard from them. Maybe dont listen to a 70 yr old when ur 40 and trying to stay afloat.
He was so honest it's great
If its the weird song that had a lot of melody and was really slow an laid back. That was the most beautiful thing Metallica ever played in their discography and they completely scratched it. I was so dissapointed.
Eventhough this is my least favorite period for Metallica, I always come back to this documentary. It's such a fascinating documentary. A must watch in my opinion.
I always felt that Lars yelling FUCK! at James face was part of a therapy thing. Like if Phil told Lars to really let everything go out of him, then the camera just captured that. But James keeping his cool always gave me the feeling it was a "game" moment. Not that it was a fake moment, but part of a process understood by everyone in the room.
cool take. i always wondered how james kept his cool. he was changed man by then tho, lol.
Oh for sure. If it wasn't James would've launched Lars across the room.
"Delete that!" The greatest quote in the history of Metallica
Nuh uh. It’s “D-leet dat.”
I see the documentary differently since I’m not really a Metallica guy. On one level, it’s just a good music doc. On another level, it’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. Like a metal version of The Office.
Or an irl version of Spinal Tap
I love you for this.
The Doc is just 100% BEYOND parody lmao.
@@evanward4303this therapist goes to eleven
You touched on something that I thought was great. Not just the realization you have a problem (whatever it might be) but what can YOU do to fix it.
Figuring that out and implementing it can for sure be a challenge.
The Napster thing generated one of the best flash animations in HISTORY. "BLOOD, SWEAT, AND MOTHER F'ING BEER!!"
Camp Chaos! 😁
BEER GOOD!
DAVE'S PISS BAD!
never heard of that animation
ECW's Sandman had that slogan in the 90s already
You should watch some of the bonus footage they shot. There's like hours of it but there's some good stuff there. There's a part where Kirk is struggling to play a riff and can't quite get it, James is trying his hardest to be patient with him and Lars is in the background like "Dude, your sweating." Another is the whole Swizz Beatz/Ja Rule collaboration. It's probably the worst rap/rock crossover ever, it's downright terrible, but it's fascinating to watch these guys put it together and see how into it they are. "Ja's hot right now." - Russel Simmons.
Gonna do that in another video. Didn’t want this one to go too long.
I’ve seen several of the deleted/bonus scenes before, but the part where they’re in the studio with Swizz Beats? Dude…I thought I knew everything about Metallica, but I’d NEVER heard that song before I found this comment. It’s unreal lol.
@@GrantHyea they made a song for some motorcycle fast and furious failed franchise, it was BAD 😂😂😂. It’s all on UA-cam lol
The Dave and Lars segment is also extended on those deleted scenes.
Also the moment Lars yells “he fucking left the band”. Rather interesting that the most recognizable scene is actually a deleted one.
That show Metalocalypse on Adult Swim from way back in the day had an episode in which they hired a therapist. It was clearly inspired by this documentary. It was hilarious too. LOVED that show. And Dethklok is amongst the greatest fictional bands of all time.
Do you kids like coffee?
@@N3gativeR3FLUXfolks....it's "folks"!!!
Kids.....pff
Yeahs, i remembers thats
Dr. Rockso the rocking roll clown
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C-c-c .. cyeah baby !! I do coccaine !!
James - "this is part of me trying to be unfamous" ..... cuts to James driving down the highway in a cartoon hot rod with flames and skulls pained on it
_I DON'T WANT TO BE COOL ANYMORE!_
_WELL I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE!_
He f*cking left the band! Period, Exclamation point! 😂
It’s constructed and edited but it still blows my mind how incredible Robert’s technique is and his presence when performing.
I have to say their therapist was high on himself.
how so? like he had an ego himself bc he was the therapist for the biggest metal band?
@22:24 I don't know if you did, but listen to the band commentary. Kirk said he was genuinely enraged by Phil handing lyrics over to James. In the film, Lars seems to be the last one to be done with Phil in what is actually a bonding moment for Lars and James.
You should do more long format stuff like this. Good stuff
You’re probably the best guitar/ music UA-camr/ and can we get a ride the lightning album review please🙏🏻🙏🏻
Anything Metallica related that you upload, I'm here! Can't get enough
Always ahead of the game with your episode ideas! Koodos!
This is the documentary that got me into playing guitar, dead serious. I've seen it so many times.
Great video my man. Really well done.
The documentary came out 20 years ago.....and think of where they are right now.
Dude I just clicked . Haven’t watched yet. My man Mike watching this and breaking it down is the EXACT type of content that’s made for me after work 😂 love it man. Got my water and meal. Bout to watch
The Thing that Should not Be was one of their earlier songs that was in the same tuning. However, when they played it during the S&M concert, it was tuned half step down from standard.
To be fair, Metallica always played Thing in C# tuning live. Even during the Damage Inc. Tour in 86', they played it half-step down from the studio recording.
My guess is that James wasn't able to sing up to pitch live, so they dropped it down for live performances.
As a coincidence this documentary was released just 20 years ago. 😮
It's documentaries like this and the Beatles "Get Back" that allow you to get a glimpse of what was happening at that time. Aerosmith's "The Making of Pump" was also a great watch for some of the same reasons. I wish there would have been something like this for classic Van Halen, but then again, I prefer the larger than life mystique that band possesses; not to mention that everyone probably had non-disclosure agreements most likely. The closest we got to anything like that was The Tape Archive's great UA-cam documentaries on the before and after of 1984.
Great video man!
I've come to the conclusion that you are the most likeable person that I subscribe to. Keep pumping out the great content!
St Anger was just a record that was totally overthought and when that happens everything's a struggle. Even on the St Anger tour when I saw them in London I think they played 1 from the album.
Most bands have that 1 album that sticks out from the rest because it just doesn't work.
The therapist creaming $40k a month is an utter piss take. He probably retired after how much he made from them.
Reason Paul wrote GET BACK so easily was because he was directing it at Yoko…that’s where “Jojo” came from…”GET BACK JOJO(Yoko)”…and every time he’d say it he’d look directly at her
Didnt knew I needed this.. Thanks
Didn't know*
This is so interesting. Love to get your take on it
"Ugh...the therapist" Truer words have never been said.😆
Dude, read the book! This Monster Lives. So much more info and perspective
Loved the album when it came out and still do. Some songs are a bit longer but there’s some great songs on it
This was a cool video to watch.
I've seen this movie twice since it came out. After watching your take on it, I think it would be cool to watch this kinda stuff with you around, you've got some pretty neat observations about things.
LOVE the shirt!
Wow I'm glad we got a *Musician* to break down this trainwreck
It's hard to believe the events in some king of monster are more than 20 years old. We are old man!😜
St. Anger, showing the world you never go full nu-metal.
Hee hee..i see what you did there😅
Documentary showed us what it’s actually like to be in a band in a form that we have not really seen for up to that time. It’s pretty common knowledge, but this one really showed the average exactly everything you have to go through to be a successful😊
that was good i enjoyed your break down
Your comment on James wearing overalls had me dead 😂😂😂
Good video idea, mike!
Jason was right when he said it was lame.
I can't wait for the sequel, I AM THE TABLE!
Watched this movie alot when I was single😊
The Playboy article from around this era is a good supplemental read for this.
As someone who has been to rehab and is still struggling with my alcoholism, I relate so much with James. I watched this documentary countless times in my teen years and now I have a totally new perspective on it.
You have a gift for commentary. Would love to see this kind of video about the making of the Black album.
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So that’s actually not Robs apartment; that’s a room at HA. Each guy has their own room at HQ to crash. That was actually brought up on a recent Metallica podcast.
How is that possible you never saw it all before! So weird to me. Cool vid as always. 🤟🤟🤟🤟
sorry you got demonitized bro but I watched this whole thing this morning during my day off and really enjoyed it! I hope at the least its good for your engagement, dropped a like . Thanks for breaking it down I avoided watching it for the same reason didnt want to cringe 😅
Kirk, the "scared child
That was me while growing up. Can relate.
Wish they would of released temptation... that was a really good song
Kind of did with If Darkness Had A Son
Dude is good at picking the gems! I got a lot of life lessons from this
I’ll always be thankful for Albums 2-4
That was a great run.
Awesome video dude! It’s funny actually that the way you felt originally about this movie was totally the opposite experience for me. The movie came out when I was 16 and started taking guitar and drum playing seriously round that time. My mum got me to watch the movie and it turned me into a Metallica fan! My favourite period of Metallica’s career will always be the 80’s for me since becoming a fan, but I will always appreciate this movie and St. Anger for allowing me to explore their back catalogue. At the time I was studying media and went on to producing an animated music video for the song Battery which got me my best grades in college. Was such a blast at that time in the 00’s despite the bands struggles.
My buddy and rhythm guitarist saw it 3x in theaters back in the day
The hard to take him serious in overalls part had me laughing hysterically haha
Cool idea for a video
If you watch the extra footage, it always felt to me like SKOM had two main story arcs. One were the psychological issues between Lars and James (and the demons they had to face themselves). The other one was Jason leaving the band and then being „in limbo“ for a significant period, basically the whole power struggle between Jason and James (and the band still having psychological scars after Cliff‘s death).
Get Back (or the Let It Be movie from the 1960s) were probably similar to SKOM since they were both showing a band in a crisis. But the Beatles seemed more mature, and most of the arguments they had were actually normal band disputes. It was four guys reaching the age of 30 while having spent a decade of touring, album recordings and crazy media frenzy together, with all of them already having their own solo careers in mind (and John, Paul and George becoming songwriters too big to be in the same band). With Metallica it seemed like they were all in some form of midlife crisis (including Bob Rock), figuring out something new without finding a proper direction, and then eventually deciding on trying to get their shit together to keep the band working.
and james is still struggling with alcohol addiction praying for the brother
interesting to me is_ they NEVER really opened that pandoras box as they were open about nearly anything else before that. It feels like metallica shut themselfes "in" to some degree the last years.
Not anymore he isn’t.
@@Ranganation
Citation needed.
It was actually the other way around with Enter Sandman. James & Bob thought Holier Than Thou was the first single. Lars was adamant about it being Enter Sandman.
idk man kirk and james do look like the grandparents that make reallllly good brownies- but mommy lars sounds good too
I'm really curious to hear you expand on the Napster thing coming "full circle". I have my opinions on it and it's effect on the industry, it'll be cool to compare notes.
No matter what, it’s pretty ballsy to record all that and show it to the world.
How many of us would be willing to be recorded at our most vulnerable and fucked up, and have it shown to millions upon millions of people? Many of which have idolized you and your band for decades?
I love James' scripted angry door slamming!
It is funny seeing all these artists who pandered to the teenaged fans during Napster by saying "all bands care about is the money so what if you get a song for free" and all of them now are charging ridiculous x10 market prices just to see them play live. The film and video game industries combated piracy with an iron fist. The music industry should have been united on this and now they all complain that no one makes money anymore.
But you're ignoring what streaming has done to movies.
That was awesome my man 👍 great work. Iam really hoping the mighty Metallica come to Australia very soon 🤘🇳🇿🤘
Interesting point about the Low Tunings affecting interest and ability to come up with vocals, songs to suit them. The whole album tuned so low with no solos makes it all very samey. Id love to know how the music would work in standard tunings, Drop D, complete with Kirk working in solos.
Phil 'Em All 🤣🤮🤣
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Hahahha SO GOOD 👍😂😂😂
I respect them as artists immensely. As people... well there's a couple of them I could do without.
I wouldn't characterize Robert as going from rags to riches, really. He had already accomplished quite a bit before auditioning. Suicidal even opened for Metallica on one tour, along with Candlebox. It was a really cool show, but no one had any clue that he would eventually land his spot in the band.
True but if you take Metallica's level and compare it to ST it's lightyears beyond.. So even if Robert was making good money, what he made through Metallica would consider that to be rags. Not literally of course. ;)
@@TheArtofGuitari wonder why is everyone so impresed with rob playing battery in audition? did you all hear jason newsted audition in 1986?
It looked like a hotel room
Remember seeing Robert playing with Ozzy at Ozzfest in the late 90's. He would literally spin in circles whipping his braids on stage like 30 times while still playing. Craziest thing to see. And always loved him in ST and Infectious Grooves. Amazing he's been with the band for over 20 years now.
@@TheArtofGuitar True, the pay grade was a significant increase.
Lars passive aggressive manipuilation of the situations, the therapist trying to weasle his way into the creative process. This film has so many great third eye opening moments about how the world works.
You should review the Elton John tribute, they really killed it!!
Never realized how much better the snare sounds in some of the clips compared to the album.
I just want to end it: Death Magnetic was GREAT.
100% agree. I like Hardwired and love 72S but DM is still my favorite 21st century Metallica album. It's a shame that people don't talk more about it
@@diegovaldes1408 They do. Mostly the crappy production.
I'm not one of those people who crashes around talking about "they changed with this album" or "they sucked after that album" at all, it's mostly all subjective and we just like what we like and I don't judge anyone based on their favorite Metallica records. That said, my personal interest in them waned significantly by Reload, and I don't think I've even listened to Reload and any albums beyond it all the way through. Sometimes I feel I should give those records another shot but I just never do. I've also said I want to see them live again but have skipped 4 local appearances that I can remember and haven't seen them live since 1998. All that's to say, Mike summed it up perfectly: it may not be my bag anymore but I'm damn glad I live in a world where Metallica exists. We're very lucky people, everyone who was alive and grew up with the music from 1965-1995 was given a real gift.
James kinda looks in a different world throughout this whole thing. He has a completely different energy than usual.
Phil clearly overstepped his mark, but I think he ultimately did his job. Metallica has always been a gang that operates best when they have something to push against, and Phil was brought in because that gang dynamic had fractured. The fact that the band came together to decide to move on from Phil was a sign that the dynamic had healed
Will you ever do a reaction to A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica? Would love to see that.
It’s in the works. Revisiting it after all these years is wild. They seem so young. Hehe.
@@TheArtofGuitarAwesome! 😀
@@Danjoker.I watched those two vhs tapes so much.
I'm sure you've seen the outtakes of it that have been on UA-cam for a couple years now...or I hope anyway! I watched it maybe a year ago, it really took me back. Looking forward to that project.
Great analysis but it must be remembered that this movie was created to make a narrative that suited the Metallica brand.
Hi Mike! Great view on the movie from your perspective!
I highly recommend the book from filmmaker Joe Berlinger and his view on the making of.
It‘s entitled
„Metallica: This Monster Lives: The Inside Story of Some Kind of Monster“
Rob looks stoned to the bone in that interview 😂
I haven't watched this doc in like 20 years, but I've always felt it would have been much cooler if it had scenes showing each band member pull out $300-$400 at the end of every day and personally hand it over to Phil.
loved this content. It would be cool if you do "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica" documentary too!
Even though this one got demonetized I think I still need to do Year and a Half. I'll have to see how excited I get about it.
My question is have you watched the post Some Kind of Monster documentaries on Metallica the making of Death Magnetic and Hardwired? Just curious because you see their growth from that doc and the inner workings of the band and all the hard work and improvements. You also get a peek in their creative process as writers and band mates.
Their therapist really thought he was apart of the band. And Bob Rock had the same dream lol
I watched it all the time growing up, helped a lot through rough times. The JITS videos on their website were funnier and a cooler hang seeing the process of the album.
The thing with therapists is that they serve as mediators within groups who aren’t getting along. It’s really critical to have. Otherwise as soon as something triggers one person a war will go off based on cycles everyone is going through. The therapist can stop that stuff and play like a ref to facilitate legit discussion; rather than fighting
Bob rock did more than that therapist. He was the only level headed guy in that whole documentary
"Some Kind of Mid-Life Crisis" should have been the title of that movie
Dave is a perfectionist. Nothing is good enough for him, he always wanted to be number 1,and with metallica around, he can never be that - but that's a good trait to have! It keeps him grinding - Dave doesn't rest on his laurels. It's this go hard attitude, that gave us musical perfection like "Rust in Peace"
Great video man! Where did you buy the shirt?
SKOM is a great documentary. and the fact that they put it out there is unreal.
One thing they left out, for Jason's sake. The part where he wanted back in the band and they decided no. it was nice of them to not put it in.
You gotta see it again with the maker's commentary.
This is dope. When you watch it you have a better appreciation for st anger. Not saying it's good but you can see it was more therapy than anything. Death magnetic was pretty good afterwards
I have the DVD because i never had a computer or internet until 2020. Some of you may remember the crap you watched because you had no other access to music stuff. I watched Some Kind of Monster way too many times. 🤦♂
In 2019 I was still using VHS to record music performances on PBS. 🤦♂