If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It! The way fuel tanks on a truck feed have changed and it's not a good system. Dave points out the flaws with the altered system
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Government policy. If it ain't f'ed up, f' it up
Man, I miss trucking the way it was. No dot checks every day, no cops to hastle us. Just open roads, and good paying freight.
Do what we do to all of our 2,500 trucks!!! We take out the drain plugs and connect them together with a single line!!! Brand new before they hit the road!!!👍
There is nothing so simple that a building full of unelected bureaucrats cannot complicate.
I love our truck drivers, without them 86-95% of everything we purchase would not be in our stores.. from SE Texas Bear
Exactly why I fully rebuilt my 96 Peterbuilt 379. Screw these new trucks.
I like my bottom feed tanks. Didn't much like it though when I broke a front leaf spring, and it knocked off the petcock on the left tank. Pro tip, I carry a tapered wooden dowel just in case of such an emergency. Drive it in the hole to stop your expensive fuel from pissing off the EPA all over the ground.
The truck would sometimes stall if parked off camber & the fuel tank with the supply tube was on the high side & the fuel transferred to the tank on the lower side. Enough fuel would drain to the lower side tank to cause the engine to lose it prime .
"and then the epa came along " ..
.famous last words
I worked in the oil patch in northern BC and Alberta in the early 90s. I think I Snagged my cross over line with a log on a pipeline access. Got about 30 miles or so away from camp and there she died. January -40. No cell phones then but we had autotells and vhf XJ 2way radios but I was in the very north east corner of BC on winter roads and couldn’t get ahold of anyone. Didn’t see a truck till morning. There were disadvantages to the old ways too.
The tap would always break off wouldn't turn off. Returning fuel to both tanks helps to keep fuel from gelling.
Or you should know that in cold weather areas like Michigan it helps with that top drop fuel system keeping the fuel warm in the winter time cycling it through the engine dispersing it out between both tanks
Thanks to technology I parked on a shoulder leaning to the left side a few degrees of angle with just a quarter tank of fuel. Next thing I noticed is the engine shut off due to fuel starvation. All the fuel transfered into the left tank.i learned my lesson!!!
Back in the day everything was mechanical. Even the transmission.
They changed it because of fuel spillage from accidents. It was simpler that way. It would gel easily too.
Yepper,you wanna mess up any industry, get D.C involved
Same issue with plastic gasoline cans. The government regulations implemented the anti-vapor spill caps that pop open and cause you to dump gas all over the engine..
Alligator means tire debris in or on the side of the road. Cheers!
That's works unless your low in fuel you park on unlevel ground or you have just enough water in your tanks and it freezes in the cross line
True story right there
It really is crazy how much the government has crippled our trucking industry.
Love listening to old school truckers that have a wealth of knowledge from the old school days. 2nd Generation trucker myself and I’ve learned a lot from the older guys
That system caused me a fuel spill in Joliet Illinois back in 2014.
This video speaks so much truth anytime the government gets involved shit gets complicated
Back in the day… everything was so much better.
Way past time to abolish the EPA, and revoke many of their policy's.
I have fixed this problem on my personal truck, fuel sucks from the drivers tank, when I run low on fuel I pressurize the passenger side tank to push the fuel over to the drivers side, then I shut off the crossover, get back in the truck and now my fuel gauge reads over quarter a tank, makes me feel better
I haul aggregate and my Peterbilt has one of those crazy crossovers. But I like it. We fuel up every day, and it pumps the one side right full every day, so I only need to fuel up one side.
Back in the day we all so used to use leaded gasoline and leaded paints and leaded light bulbs and leaded glass
He ain't lying. I'm fighting that dbl draw crap now. Switch on the dash shows each tank.level separately. Why one tank will show half n the other 1/4 or 3/8ths. What's crazier the engine draws from the left tank...I think. I'm sick of the complications
The nine words that you do not want to hear. I'm from the government. I'm here to help.
When things are complicated and idiotic that means the government is doing there job
I had that same system between halves of tank on my 1970 motorcycle... worked great plus draining tanks was a breeze..
God ole big brother.
keep trucking,there is a reason for good engineering sometimes it's not the the first thing that comes to mind
My tow truck is set up like this. Its a 2001 GMC 6500 with a C7 Cat. It has a tank under both doors with a connector line and tap. Such an awesome truck
As a Thermo King technician, I deal with this all the time. Brand new trucks seem to have plenty of fuel in the roadside tank, but hardly any in the curbside. This keeps the tripacs I install from starting. I always have to get the dealer to send someone down with a fuel truck to make sure there's adequate fuel to run the APUs
They got reconfigured so they can make money. Good old days they’re gone.
Been fighting the idiots at the EPA for decades, and my father before me.
Still, never heard of that messed up system they made up for Trucks...sounds absolutely AWFUL.
your thoughts on the epa forcing def piss on everyone?
The only time I had a problem with the cross over system,, was at - 40 .. at 0300 am . I had to use a crescent wrench and empty old coke 2 litre bottle to transfer fuel ..from one tank to the other .. always care methyl hydrated…to stop water / ice . from blocking the fuel cross over . Thanks
Pretty good example of Federal control of anything!
Ah yes I can relate to the extremely frequent event of continuously running over alligators 🐊 😂
….govt red tape…..another reason I got out of the HVAC/ELEC contracting……great post!
‘We’re from the govt and we’re here to help’😱😱😱😱😱😱
Its all about the money, fixing a problem that doesn’t exist
I ran a White Freightliner COE back in the 80's.
Running upstate NY and that line froze up.
For the whole winter my Boss had me running using just the right hand tank.
20 gallons of gas in each tank kept that from happening again. (winter only)
Most companies make more money from selling parts than new vehicles. And they know it. Thats one reason why nothing lasts anymore and complicated so you got to go to the dealer get fixed.
I love the Bells and Whistles my '23 Cascadia has but at home I've driven a 1970 FORD Ranger XLT since '88. Same 8 Track Tape Player.
I lile this guy. Says it as it is.
Yes a young driver and that seems to always be a problem tanks never empty evenly
Pulls clean fuel from the top - no water.
Kenworth still has this option on the w900 and T800
I stopped driving after E-logs became a national issue. I appreciate your efforts to try and teach people how DOT and the national highway commission is bowing to the special interests groups. Even though most of us understand this is common sense situation, and the only ones profiting from this are major corporations.
As Burt Gummer said, They did what the government does best. Find something simple and complicate it
Actually, if you run the I90/94 and I80 corridor, heated returns are very necessary for multiple reasons.
1- preventing fuel gelling
2- elk. That "safety bar" does absolutely nothing when you hit an elk. Hell, it does nothing against a mule deer.
3- the constant circulation prevents sludge and slime bacteria build up.
Because you do not understand the reasons for change does not negate the validity of the change.
Great explanation, love you videos 🌷
you said it all in the beginning back in the day when things were simple now stuff so complicated that is sensor can shut you down for a week or two
Thanks, I was wondering how it equalized the fuel. Have been in tractors that had a problem doing that. Now I know why.
My last two T680’s had a crossover line. The older one had two fuel gauges, but since you couldn’t select tanks, it seemed a bit pointless. My only thought was that they were pretty sure the fuel system wouldn’t keep things balanced, so they decided to give you some warning so you might avoid getting stranded. I guess my lack of understanding shows I wouldn’t be a good engineer.
Absolutely right, vehicles are way over engineered nowadays.
Just like our fancy EPA regulated "no leak" gas spouts. What a joke
An alligator is a reptile. A "Gator" or "Gator Tail" refers to a tire cap or piece of tire.
The bottom transfer tube was getting broke a lot spilling fuel along the roads.
The new top draw and return system is simple and doesn't give much trouble
They blame things like this on the EPA when really they did it to sell more parts.
If you just make your crossover hose detachable I don't think you'll have any EPA trouble if it's disconnected and the second tank used as a transfer tank.
With every video that I have seen from your channel, I am so absolutely glad to be sitting on my butt without a CDL anymore. It is way too much of a hassle to try to maintain even having the endorsement. I Pine for the day when we can just throw the rule book out the window and say to hell with this regulation shit and the morons that run it. Truck driving hasn't been profitable since the mid-90s, maybe even longer. It's really no longer the dream that it used to be.
It is very sad the amount of intentional abuse in the engineering. DEF being the best example. These are indirect crimes against humanity.
I agree 💯So many things were better “back in the day.” There is a lot to be said for simplicity. Now there are so many unnecessary complications 🙄
What can i say, i agree with you 💯
Who d'you think lobbied for these laws. It was your beloved truck companies
Nearly three decades O/O with a small fleet of 379s. Had one identical to the indigo blue exhd 379 in the background. I agree 99% with what he says simple practical approach. Just get the job done and move on to the next one. I have to disagree on this one. As problematic as leveling on the top of the tank fuel line system design is it sure is better than valves and lines on the bottom. If you can Think it a driver will Do it. Or should I say it will happen. Keep on Trucking.
I have always wanted to know how my dual tanks level out without the line going between the tanks and no Trucking channel has ever answered the question I'm always confused because there's never the exact same level in each tank
Modern diesels build way more fuel pressure than years ago, that causes more heat into the fuel. The tanks are plummed that way so to act like radiators. Got to get rid of some heat, that reduces horsepower.
That was when we had common sense like he said gravity feed fuel system no parts to go wrong
If they dont break down who will pay for maintenance?
Preach it Sir-
Over the top siphon could work but under with a robust channel is definitely easier as long as the cold weather ain't gelling her up or dirt in the fuel getting sucked through or lodged in the go between personally gravity fed stacked tanks seems quite the effective idea as lawnmowers here clear round the world use gravity fed tanks reliably and reliability is saftey
Plus you could fill both tanks from one side..
Thanks giving me the information on my truck I have a 1980 freightliner Cabover I really appreciate the information you give me teach me more
20 year HDM here. while i agree its needlessly complicated; its a system that is rarely if ever a problem.
I saw one start to run out of fuel because it was drawing mostly from one tank.
Finally someone brought this point up.
Tell you something else. They catch fire more often. Hot fuel in a crash and, 💥
unless your line freeze's and you have to manually put fuel from one to the other, long-haul trucker froze my hands
I like old trucks but the 579 ultra loft is bad ass
I had a car muffler come off the car in front of me on the Ohio Turnpike one early Saturday morning and clip the cross-over line on the mid-80's R Model Mack. I didn't know it got the line until a car passing my by shouted "You're leaking fuel!!!"
Motor rebuild 900 to 1.2 and transmission 1.5 to 2.0 I remember a guy who had almost 3 million on the chassis he also had a truck with a white cat Motor his kid drove
Agree 100%
When the cross over line was on the bottom it was always in the way while servicing the truck. I'll take the top cross over myself
Btw when he refers to running into an alligator he meant a tire recap on the road
not only is it a headache, but it means if you pull up to a fuel island and the satellite pump is broken you cant fill both tanks without running the engine while fueling😂
Was out of commission for 5 days while they found out it was the fuel pump between the two tanks.
In my opinion these modern diesel engines are so choked down that they are way less efficient than ever. Those old school diesels were some of the most powerful and efficient machines and that is what is needed all of the time. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You are right
Back in the day they didn't have automatic trucks and they had paper logos when I started driving trucks
Most trucks just have two tees. One for the pickup and one for the return. Simple as can be
Didnt know they changed that. Been out of trucking a while now....but dang you look familiar for some reason.
Most infamous words ever. “Hello. I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”
I would love to hear the EPA response to your comments.
Wahaha...we have drivers that fuelup one side only...cause next day driver thinks he has a full tanks..