Slosher specialist here. For anyone questioning how to use this for non-shooter weapons, it’s important to remember what Gem is noting at the beginning. There are some weapons, like shooters, that are able to get their specials faster & will use this strategy. For weapons that don’t get specials faster, you’re not always going to use this strategy & that’s ok. For example, Sloshing Machine does not paint well & has a 220p special; my job is not to farm booyah in the first 10 second. That’s not my responsibility given my weapons strengths & weaknesses. I just need to be mindful of when I need my special to contest the objective. On the other hand, something like dread wringer paints really well. So, flicking your 2 sloshes so they spread will help you paint for your special. Prioritizing paint & specials depends on what weapon you play.
@@durdleduc8520zones cheese 😎 I would’ve used nTri because there are techs to paint faster for cooler but it now has 210p 🙃 There’s also blob which can paint really well.
The moment my first coach told me this it completely changed the game for me (I was on nzap and my first cooler was on average dropped a minute in- now I average 4-5 a game, sometimes as high as 7) - glad you're finally making a vid on it to make the info common knowledge Edit - after watching the video, I realized I still have something to improve on, cause I've been making it a habit to paint for special by paiting spawn until I get 75% abd then move up when you posit that you should be balancing between routing forward and painting efficently, this is why I love your channel!!!
In my head I imagined like an actual sports coach 😂 saying something like "hey bud, you get special faster by wigglin year aim up and down" before walking away prideful in the difference he's made. 😂😅
@@thatguykekai2601 thats basically how coaching in splatoon works yeah - I'm at the point where I've done coaching sessions for my casual friends to - all it really is is giving pointers and watching other players reviews to get a feel for what they need to improve on(ofc you need to be strictly better mechanical and skill wise for the advice to be helpful, hence why i only do it with close casual only splatoon friends I have)
@@Alphine_Agnitio I'd argue you don't necessarily need to be a better player, just capable enough to identify areas of improvement. Top level players are coached by players who aren't top level, after all :)
@@rainsparks29for me I'd rather be 100% confident then confidently spread misinfo/bad advice(even if with good intentions) and having the results and experience that I currently lack is a big part of that
To anyone who is an inkbrush player, I like to use the 'spin' strat if you want to build up for special faster. Basically hold a direction to spin, and spam until ground's all painted around you. It's kind of dangerous to do when there are enemies closeby, since you turn your back to them, but it's quick and the fastest way to paint that isn't jump-forward-and-spam technique. While Inkb's are not support weapons by any means, it feels like you can get your specials deceptively fast if you start painting for it. Using what Gem said about avoiding other players, you can get your special by the time you reach mid and use your special (I use vanilla so wail) immediately. I find it catches people off guard and I can force an encounter and with luck, get a few early picks for the first push.
@@tompeter717 Meanwhile, I used to be in S although once we reached the new season, I dropped back to A+ so now I need to retrace my points back to where I left off. And occasionally others don’t seem to let me…
This video makes me want to see something like this for other weapon roles: how do you know the best backline position at the start of a match? What should a frontline be doing to get the most value?
I have a few videos on backline positioning as well as a guide curated by Devvy listing positions backline weapons generally benefit from taking. Here's Devvy's guide: drive.google.com/drive/folders/18DJQyzQX8uyQclkWDmo30MZCa9egrZ7w Here's a video on backline positioning: ua-cam.com/video/WyajDIOxMPo/v-deo.html and here's a video on changing your positioning according to the flow of the game: ua-cam.com/video/dziVLyZkspQ/v-deo.html
This video is great, but I think providing examples for other weapon types would help a lot of people out. The concepts definitely apply to all weapons, but I feel more visual examples of, say, a roller painting for special while rolling out would be very useful.
As a Flingza main, I get out in front on a direct route to mid to take position for the first fight, and vertical flick maybe 10 degrees left and right as I go, so I have missiles ready when I get there
I can easily relate this to things like a burst window opener in an MMO raid. You wanna be able to get the most out of the inital engagement, because it can help so much with games.
couple of things: despite what gem said in the video the same strategy DOES apply in turf war. you do not want to be spending too much time inking your base, you want to focus on taking the middle of the map, and you can ink your base when you get splatted (and in a game like splatoon you *will* get splatted). as someone who plays support weapons in ranked modes, i consider it part of my job to ink routes that the enemy team might want to take towards our clam basket/rainmaker podium, which both slows them down and makes it obvious when someone might be coming into our territory.
A fun game I like to play when there's a disconnect right at the beginning of a match, and thus know it'll be ending soon, is to try and get my special and use it once before the game kicks everyone out. It adds that little bit of extra pressure to paint efficiently in order to succeed before the time's up, and it gives a bit of practice trying the route for that map.
This was the first strategy I made when I started playing Splatoon 2 post-final fest. I considered it as practice to help me beat Inner Agent 3, then moved on to Splatoon 3, lmao. As an inkbrush main, during ranks, victories for me vary from 700p, 7>3 (splats>splatted), 900p, 14>7, or 1200-1400p, 21/26>8. If I'm to go by Gem's logic, then yes, as an inkbrush, painting a lot helps you win a lot. Especially, ESPECIALLY if the enemy team is good or your team is lacking in some way that you can't counter for. But what about splattershot pro? Or slow chargers? The sloshing machine is a bit of a dilemma because it takes a while to build its special, but is overall a great weapon. It seems not every weapon should or needs to rely on building their special, as some shouls have kits that allow them to maneuver against many situations. If I don't have killer wail, I can throw a bomb, maybe roll away, swing my brush if possible, or super jump to spawn.
I've managed to get an 8 second special deploy time with VInkbrush (no SCU) and it's generally fun challenging yourself to get it as fast as you possibly can.
One of any Blaster's weaknesses is that they aren't very good at painting, both supportively or aggressively Try to position yourself so that your shot takes as much turf as possible in as few shots as possible, but don't play a Blaster like a painting weapon 👍
Well said; there's not a blaster in the game that would paint for special fast enough to compete with something like a short range shooter, so counting on it to lead the first special push of the game typically means you're surrendering tempo to the enemy team, which will get their first special out faster. Learning to paint efficiently is great, and much simpler for you than for a shooter player, but this really isn't your job in orthodox competitive play.
I use splash more as a slayer than support, with only really farming crab when we are at a disadvantage in numbers or need to prep some aggro specials for a push or for defence Is playing this way fine with splash, or should i opt for a more support focused playstyle/build. (If it helps, my team tends to run a more backless comp, with usually hedit for cooler (if crab edit is used, i switch to vshot and play purely as a slayer), crb/gal as a midline, and tri slosh/zaptri or tri stringer depending on the map and mode, and who on the team is playing. My question also applies to soloq, when i play solo splash, should i be trying to be a slayer more or should i play support for crab instead)
imo farming crab at the beginning of the game and adapting depending on how ur team is doing could be the best strat in solo q as it’ll give you a heavy initial advantage
one of the biggest strengths of Splash is its flexibility. it can be the slayer, support, or anchor at any notice and it can do those jobs very effectively. so in my non-pro opinion, there aren't very many wrong ways to play the weapon; but it's important for you to keep in mind that if there's a hole in the comp, you're probably the weapon best suited to fill it. you don't have to be just slayer or just support. for instance, if you find your team is struggling on rollout, you can start with a supportive/anchor playstyle and farm crab up quickly for the start of the game, and then switch to slayer once you've got the advantage. focus on what stages of the game your team struggles with (opening, retake, push, defense, etc) and consider how you could behave differently during them. it could also be possible to do this thinking on the fly in soloq, just based on the weapons your team rolls. that being said, i'm not a coach and not great at this game.
I only make videos like this when a topics come up multiple times in multiple lessons. It was a lot more than just you, even if that was something we talked about
Slosher specialist here.
For anyone questioning how to use this for non-shooter weapons, it’s important to remember what Gem is noting at the beginning. There are some weapons, like shooters, that are able to get their specials faster & will use this strategy. For weapons that don’t get specials faster, you’re not always going to use this strategy & that’s ok.
For example, Sloshing Machine does not paint well & has a 220p special; my job is not to farm booyah in the first 10 second. That’s not my responsibility given my weapons strengths & weaknesses. I just need to be mindful of when I need my special to contest the objective.
On the other hand, something like dread wringer paints really well. So, flicking your 2 sloshes so they spread will help you paint for your special.
Prioritizing paint & specials depends on what weapon you play.
if only dread had a special we wanted :(
@@durdleduc8520zones cheese 😎
I would’ve used nTri because there are techs to paint faster for cooler but it now has 210p 🙃
There’s also blob which can paint really well.
I love your content Gus, unexplainable to explain my gratitude.
The moment my first coach told me this it completely changed the game for me (I was on nzap and my first cooler was on average dropped a minute in- now I average 4-5 a game, sometimes as high as 7) - glad you're finally making a vid on it to make the info common knowledge
Edit - after watching the video, I realized I still have something to improve on, cause I've been making it a habit to paint for special by paiting spawn until I get 75% abd then move up when you posit that you should be balancing between routing forward and painting efficently, this is why I love your channel!!!
In my head I imagined like an actual sports coach 😂 saying something like "hey bud, you get special faster by wigglin year aim up and down" before walking away prideful in the difference he's made. 😂😅
@@thatguykekai2601XD I love that so much
@@thatguykekai2601 thats basically how coaching in splatoon works yeah - I'm at the point where I've done coaching sessions for my casual friends to - all it really is is giving pointers and watching other players reviews to get a feel for what they need to improve on(ofc you need to be strictly better mechanical and skill wise for the advice to be helpful, hence why i only do it with close casual only splatoon friends I have)
@@Alphine_Agnitio I'd argue you don't necessarily need to be a better player, just capable enough to identify areas of improvement. Top level players are coached by players who aren't top level, after all :)
@@rainsparks29for me I'd rather be 100% confident then confidently spread misinfo/bad advice(even if with good intentions) and having the results and experience that I currently lack is a big part of that
“Go on, make a mess.”
- Splatoon 1 tagline
ooooooo, thats a nice tagline - wish I'd seen it sooner
It was on the US Splatoon 1 website! Sadly it’s been updating to always reflect the newest splatoon game
To anyone who is an inkbrush player, I like to use the 'spin' strat if you want to build up for special faster. Basically hold a direction to spin, and spam until ground's all painted around you. It's kind of dangerous to do when there are enemies closeby, since you turn your back to them, but it's quick and the fastest way to paint that isn't jump-forward-and-spam technique. While Inkb's are not support weapons by any means, it feels like you can get your specials deceptively fast if you start painting for it.
Using what Gem said about avoiding other players, you can get your special by the time you reach mid and use your special (I use vanilla so wail) immediately. I find it catches people off guard and I can force an encounter and with luck, get a few early picks for the first push.
Ah yeah, this will BE very helpfull for me with my Gold Dynamo
Is "be" sarcastic
Or "very"
If it’s YOU who isn’t letting me win in Ranked, you’ve got a lesson to learn. Watch out.
@@BrothersCourage I'm in B i don't think you're talking about me
@@tompeter717 Meanwhile, I used to be in S although once we reached the new season, I dropped back to A+ so now I need to retrace my points back to where I left off. And occasionally others don’t seem to let me…
@@BrothersCourage Yeah i was A but dropped. But i only Play Dynamo i zones and rainmaker, so IT aint me in Tower or clam
This video makes me want to see something like this for other weapon roles: how do you know the best backline position at the start of a match? What should a frontline be doing to get the most value?
I have a few videos on backline positioning as well as a guide curated by Devvy listing positions backline weapons generally benefit from taking. Here's Devvy's guide: drive.google.com/drive/folders/18DJQyzQX8uyQclkWDmo30MZCa9egrZ7w
Here's a video on backline positioning: ua-cam.com/video/WyajDIOxMPo/v-deo.html
and here's a video on changing your positioning according to the flow of the game: ua-cam.com/video/dziVLyZkspQ/v-deo.html
This video is great, but I think providing examples for other weapon types would help a lot of people out. The concepts definitely apply to all weapons, but I feel more visual examples of, say, a roller painting for special while rolling out would be very useful.
As a Flingza main, I get out in front on a direct route to mid to take position for the first fight, and vertical flick maybe 10 degrees left and right as I go, so I have missiles ready when I get there
i will say i think the only rollers that will be painting special are flingza and big swig. swig would be spamming horiz, flingza spams flings.
Me, a ReefLux/Splatana Deco main: Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of my power
I can easily relate this to things like a burst window opener in an MMO raid. You wanna be able to get the most out of the inital engagement, because it can help so much with games.
couple of things:
despite what gem said in the video the same strategy DOES apply in turf war. you do not want to be spending too much time inking your base, you want to focus on taking the middle of the map, and you can ink your base when you get splatted (and in a game like splatoon you *will* get splatted).
as someone who plays support weapons in ranked modes, i consider it part of my job to ink routes that the enemy team might want to take towards our clam basket/rainmaker podium, which both slows them down and makes it obvious when someone might be coming into our territory.
A fun game I like to play when there's a disconnect right at the beginning of a match, and thus know it'll be ending soon, is to try and get my special and use it once before the game kicks everyone out. It adds that little bit of extra pressure to paint efficiently in order to succeed before the time's up, and it gives a bit of practice trying the route for that map.
Gem clipping my friends and I round with him is insanneeee!!! 😭
This was the first strategy I made when I started playing Splatoon 2 post-final fest. I considered it as practice to help me beat Inner Agent 3, then moved on to Splatoon 3, lmao.
As an inkbrush main, during ranks, victories for me vary from 700p, 7>3 (splats>splatted), 900p, 14>7, or 1200-1400p, 21/26>8.
If I'm to go by Gem's logic, then yes, as an inkbrush, painting a lot helps you win a lot. Especially, ESPECIALLY if the enemy team is good or your team is lacking in some way that you can't counter for.
But what about splattershot pro? Or slow chargers? The sloshing machine is a bit of a dilemma because it takes a while to build its special, but is overall a great weapon. It seems not every weapon should or needs to rely on building their special, as some shouls have kits that allow them to maneuver against many situations. If I don't have killer wail, I can throw a bomb, maybe roll away, swing my brush if possible, or super jump to spawn.
I've managed to get an 8 second special deploy time with VInkbrush (no SCU) and it's generally fun challenging yourself to get it as fast as you possibly can.
that segment about effectively painting ramps is SO SMART
Thank you for this information!!!!!!! I love the information you put together.
I might go back to nzap to practice this. Thanks for the tips! It helps me more and more every time
Excellent video on painting.
Any tips for blasters mains?
One of any Blaster's weaknesses is that they aren't very good at painting, both supportively or aggressively
Try to position yourself so that your shot takes as much turf as possible in as few shots as possible, but don't play a Blaster like a painting weapon 👍
Well said; there's not a blaster in the game that would paint for special fast enough to compete with something like a short range shooter, so counting on it to lead the first special push of the game typically means you're surrendering tempo to the enemy team, which will get their first special out faster. Learning to paint efficiently is great, and much simpler for you than for a shooter player, but this really isn't your job in orthodox competitive play.
For Tower Control, use Clash Blaster! Just make sure you’re not in the same room as me…
tip: you can throw a bomb in an empty area when the match starts to make up for the weakness of blaster paint
Once again, I opened youtube just minutes (7 this time) after you've upload a video. I LOVE it
I've been doing this since Splatoon 2
Excellent video, thank you!
I use splash more as a slayer than support, with only really farming crab when we are at a disadvantage in numbers or need to prep some aggro specials for a push or for defence
Is playing this way fine with splash, or should i opt for a more support focused playstyle/build.
(If it helps, my team tends to run a more backless comp, with usually hedit for cooler (if crab edit is used, i switch to vshot and play purely as a slayer), crb/gal as a midline, and tri slosh/zaptri or tri stringer depending on the map and mode, and who on the team is playing. My question also applies to soloq, when i play solo splash, should i be trying to be a slayer more or should i play support for crab instead)
imo farming crab at the beginning of the game and adapting depending on how ur team is doing could be the best strat in solo q as it’ll give you a heavy initial advantage
one of the biggest strengths of Splash is its flexibility. it can be the slayer, support, or anchor at any notice and it can do those jobs very effectively. so in my non-pro opinion, there aren't very many wrong ways to play the weapon; but it's important for you to keep in mind that if there's a hole in the comp, you're probably the weapon best suited to fill it.
you don't have to be just slayer or just support. for instance, if you find your team is struggling on rollout, you can start with a supportive/anchor playstyle and farm crab up quickly for the start of the game, and then switch to slayer once you've got the advantage. focus on what stages of the game your team struggles with (opening, retake, push, defense, etc) and consider how you could behave differently during them. it could also be possible to do this thinking on the fly in soloq, just based on the weapons your team rolls.
that being said, i'm not a coach and not great at this game.
thank you both for your help, I should probably focus a bit more on getting a higher crab output, and will work towards improving that.
I feel like this is based off our vod review lol
I only make videos like this when a topics come up multiple times in multiple lessons. It was a lot more than just you, even if that was something we talked about
5:23
I’d call that a 2 for 1 deal
Is that funny?
I’m tired I don’t know
Team pushing makomart rainmaker right side ARGH😅 please push left side!!
I really want the next game without special priorizing gameplay