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How to Add a Sharkbite Shut Off Valve To Switch From Copper to Pex
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2018
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a good habit would be to mark one inch in from the end of the pipe as the Sharkbite needs to be inserted that measurement from the end , and also deburr the pipe after cutting, small burrs can damage the o-ring in the fitting.
With shark bite your not suppose to use sand paper to clean the pipe. It needs the smooth surface and you did not deburr the pipe. That can damage the rubber o ring.
I have been doing this work for 30 years, and just recently introduced to these. I never tried them before because they seemed like such a high expense. Until one day, for some reason i just could not get this one joined sweat on. It just wasn't happening. So I tried one of these and BAM, was done. I'm hooked. The material cost trumps my labor cost making them well worth it vs. my time.
Couldn't agree more.
I love your videos but the comments section is right in this one. You ought to update. Shark bite has said they need to be clean but not to rough up the pipe and be sure to debur the inside as burs inside the cut section will cause turbulence and cause pin holes. The rough exterior pipe can cause twisting or breaking of the o ring, especially on the smaller dimension pipes where the o ring is a thinner diamater.
Just installed a sharkbite ice maker install kit instead of using one of those dumb saddle valves. Worked like a charm! I'm definitely hooked and will be replacing my leaking and old washing machine shutoff valves with sharkbite.
Cool.
I really enjoy your pleasant and no-nonsense approach to reno jobs !!
That is some beautiful old copper.
So, shark bites are trustworthy? I am so afraid to use them.
I find your videos very helpful. I got hooked on the series when you built your own shed "from scratch". My understanding on Sharkbite though is that you don't want to use sandpaper on the outside of the pipe. It needs to be smooth to have the best fit. You do need to deburr the inside and outside of the fresh cut which the sandpaper did for the outside. Have you noticed any problems using sandpaper?
Excellent work. Work smarter and not harder. People swore up and down that galvanized pipe was the best, then came along copper and now pex. Uponor I believe is the best for flexibility and cost effectiveness.
I've been watching several of these videos and love the helpful tips and tricks. Your videos are exactly how you market them, pro results for the DIYer. One of the videos I see missing from the arsenal is how to replace a washer box and how to replace a single valve in a washer box. That's one I'd be very interested in watching! Keep up the great work guys!
Cheers Drew!
Aside of attempt to pull it off for check, there is need to make sure that fitting actually pushed all possible way down using some template mark on pipe. SB fitting even after complete and snug installation still allows some rotation, so its hard to tell how tight it fit. While, having fitting not completely snug to pipe edge, will let exposure of full water pressure to wash out o-ring sealant more aggressively which will be matter of much shorter time to cause leaking. Pushing it all possible way down, will reduce exposure of o-ring to pressure and let it last much longer.
I am pretty sure that I am strong enough to push on a fitting. but yes you can put on a mark.
BTW, I watched a few of these videos & it is suggested NOT to use shark-bites connectors inside walls. Since shark-bites are a relatively new product there are some concerns. There is a rubber O-ring inside these connectors that may dry out from chlorine (in some waters) causing leaks. I suggest buying some "Jack's" lubricant which is used for swimming pool O-rings. Do NOT use a petrol based lubricant (Vaseline, etc.) on rubber. "Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly. The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon. This is available in spa or pool stores." "Jack's Formula 327 Multilube, SP0327 by Hayward. Pool & Spa lubricant for o-rings and threads on pool equipment." I would presume, if one's water contains chlorine one would use Jack's....if needed in these shark-bites. ????????????????????
If you are ever not sure if those sharkbites are in all the way, there is a depth tool that sharkbite makes that u can use to mark your pipe. They sell them in the same aisle as the valves.
I looked at those ($17 @HD...) and then found a chart online that splained it to my satisfaction. Google up: sharkbite pipe insertion depth sharkbite fittings. All the info you need. Not a word of instruction on the SB packaging either, just to make you worry, they can keep that "tool", I can't see why you'd need it.
@@deletesoon70 Recheliew sells them cheaper , its a orange plastic depth gauge for copper and sharkbite , includes a deburring tool on it, www.richelieu.com/ca/en/category/tools-and-shop-supplies/workshop-accessories/1058761
I literally love your videos. They are so satisfying and I watch them to go to sleep. You are awesome.
Yeah this guy does have a calming effect he's not arrogant he doesn't have crazy laughter or anyting stupid he just gets right to the point
The plumbers won’t like this lol thank you for the very informative video!
Short n sweet.....love these quick bites of info...whole lotta bang in a small package.
Cheers to ya Cudda Brown!
Home RenoVision DIY I'll drink to that
I'm not trying to be a smart alec but you should have reamed the pipes the pencil reamer takes about four seconds and when the pencil reamer is sharp it's almost fun to use.
perhaps! Cheers!
check out that vintage 30's wall switch over your left shoulder,... am I seeing that right... ?
Thank you for introducing me to pex. I'll install that next time in my house.
My pleasure Red Yumi , Cheers!
How about deburring?
Those Sharkbite quick fit products are fantastic!
Love them,
Thanks for the video and introducing me to these. My question is would you use them with the main shut off?
How do you connect the OTHER end?????
great , mine is next to the entry of the house and can be reached in an emergency without any issue
perfect!
These come in handy when you can't shut the curb valve and need to replace main valve
sure do. Cheers!
Reem the inside after cutting before pushing on a shark bite
Good point , I guess I have gotten a little lazy over the yrears
Correct. It's one of the steps recommended by SharkBite www.sharkbite.com/resources/video/how-install-sharkbite-push-connect-fittings
I love these sharkbite plumbing I used them when I moved my lundry from down in my garage up to the sun room.
Cheers!
LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS!! DO A MODERN RENOVATION IN A ROOM WITH OLD WOOD PANELS AS WALLS!
some day soon!
Home RenoVision DIY thank you it would be extremely helpful!
Can you do a video on how to change the valve on the main water line to the house?
Maybe, If I ever need too!
Had a pinhole leak and installed the shutoff ball valve sharkbite over it. Been 3 days and no leaks yet
Hey, your video is awesome. Thinking ahead, and common sense, good yob. Too bad you didn't have eye protection I'm just about blind in one eye so I always have my glasses on and they have saved me three times in the last 12 years anyway I also sausage yellow CPVC glue used on the ABS pipe I thought I was the only one who used that. Anyway good job good video and you have talent.
Thanks
Cheers!
What about the pex?
That is a nice tool to have on your lines and I may have to get some of those for my house. Does those work with the PVC pipes?
yes they do Sidney, cpvc, copper and pex. Cheers!
Thank you!!!
Great video👍
Cheers!
Hi jeff, are these reliable in long term? I'm planning to do some plumbing at my bathroom with these. But i hear some horror stories.
I used them in places where I can have access. This way in 20 years if they start a small drip it can be replaces easily enough.
Hallo,
Iam alwys keep waching your chanel and yor work..its great what you are doing,but i want ask u if you know abut buildig hous by concret and block not wood,or if you know chanel do that...becuse in our contry only bulding by concret and block....please please
Pex is king
Sharkbite has an inner-tube - do you need to remove it ever? Such as when you go from copper to PEX?
Not any more. Cheers!
I soldered shut off valves on as I made changes over the years, going back to the 80's. Now those old shut off valves are hard as hell to shut off. Will these Sharbite still work like new 10 yrs after install?
Yes they are ball valves and do not have gaskets which dry out while in the open position like those cheap shut offs you are referring to
Thanks very much. I have some work to do this fall down there with bathroom connections so I'll make a few changes.
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Last but not least......could you please do a video or if already done send me the link on how to install a duct humidifier to the furnace like a Honeywell or similar. Could you also show how to install the water line and plug or cut into a copper line for the water source....
Thanks and have a great 2019
Jon
Looking into it. Cheers!
I would have used the original copper line (but support it, it was just hanging with local level pressure supply) used a ball gate isolator, to supply the water to the dwelling, then used maybe a sharkbite after, ideally local to the taps aka facets, for example, for ease of installation, copper is king, suitably installed and maintained, eg mechanical protection, easily ( as practicable) accessible, etc
sorry to disagree with you but pex is now the king.
Do you have any tips on how to repair basements? When it rains water literally comes inside from the ceiling in a continuous stream on one of the walls and the entire basement floods. As if the concrete is corroded. I've pleaded with my dad to call a professional but he thinks he can fix it by pouring concrete in the cracks. I keep trying to tell him I;m afraid it might be a foundation issue (the entire house has cracks in it and it looks like it's sinking) and it can really cost him if he doesn't fix it right. Please help I don't even know who to call. A contractor? Structural engineer? Where do I start?
Most solutions cost a lot of money However, water always finds the easiest path. If you can divert the water from the foundation that is the first thing to do. In most cases it requires a shovel and some hard work to slope the ground around the house and make sure it finds a ditch or catchment basin. Then you can look at how the house is sealed up from there. Not much you can do from the inside. Hope this helps. let me know how you make out!
Which water line are better, copper or pex. I got pex in my house, and was advised to change them to copper because pex blow up
someone lied to you. pex does not blow up. You actually have the superior product already in my opinion. Don't touch them.
@Steve Correct. Pex actually expands and contracts. Pex A is the most flexible and does not weaken after multiple expansions/contractions. Look at some of the Pex tests done on Matt Risinger's channel.
Any idea of reliability for pushfit vs solder connections? I’m getting mixed signals from internet peeps.
recent models of sharkbite perform much better than the original version. still not a good idea to hide in a closed wall or floor.
Thank you very much! I'm a big fan and watch a lot of your videos and take your feedback with a vast ocean of salt! :) Much appreciated.
Can u do a video going from copper to plastic
we just did.!
I actually meant the part you solder onto the copper and you continue with plastic I’m not a fan of shark bite garbage sooner or later that rubber O ring is going to dry crack or whatever they leak. Nice having the shut off inline though good idea
Do you have to turn it after you push it on?
I turn as I push just to be sure it does not catch on the insert. Cheers! and you can rotate after to place the handle in a convenient place.
$20 a piece, 10 mins of work... $400 in the bank B)
exactly!
wave ,,,
Use a pencil reamer if you plan on doing any plumbing.
Ball valves absolutely, Shark bite I personally would not install them but in a pinch to save a flood when you could not solder yes the way to go in an emergency. Do know enough about longevity. I would use a finer grit sand paper on the copper or the wire tool more commonly used. Not knocking what you are doing here I just have my own tried and true methods that I like to work with. At 12 years old I fitted a 40 horse barn with automatic waters for each stall, a person got me started on one stall and I completed the rest like three months later. There was a lot more to around the barn besides hook up water. I think I re-glazed around 2000 8x10 windows that year also. The year was 1972. Learned a heck of a lot more since. 100% on board with waste PVC but just can't go there pressurized. Just my opinion but if you do copper do blue not red pictured here.
Just working with what was previously installed.
Shark fittings I mean
I absolutely love your channel. However, I'm not a big fan of Sharkbite. I've heard the horror stories. I prefer the tried and true copper over the newcomer (Sharkbite).
Straight from the manufacturer. Do not sand the pipes before fitting a shark-bite connection.
Not that I would ever rely on a single O-Ring seal in a waterline anyway.
O-Rings are rubber and will degrade over time, that WILL fail just like ALL O-rings fail over time.
Shark-bit is great for a temporary solution but never for a long term one.
The point of sanding was to deburr after the cut which is required. This fitting will last 50 years and I am fine with that since it is in a very easy to manage place.
oh no! the sky is falling. also take note that he installed this in a place where *IF* it leaks the damage would be minor.
I agree with you TOTALLY Home RenoVision DIY!!! You are a genius!!!
Scotch brite works good.
Sharkbites are great in exposed areas where you will notice a drip, in 20 to 50 years, and the drip and will not cause damage (like in video). They are also good for water heaters (just about any plumbing fixture) since they outlast them. There are some municipalities that require a burn permit for torch work. Excellent work around for that.
There are tools called reamer to do so www.virax.com/index.php/en/p/34023/reamer/multi-material-internal-external-reamer
Sharkbite and piece of mind, hmm.
the shark is facing the direction of flow.......
Sanding copper pipes is not a recommended prep method for sharkbites
your suppose to remove the ring inside the sharkbite with needle nose pliers, its only use for pex. fyi
@Steve It's there to stiffen the pex so the SharkBite teeth are able to better bite into the pex
Shark bite = disaster waiting to happen
By not removing the PEX insert from the fitting you created an unnecessary restriction.
No worries, the biggest restriction to water flow is at the faucet in every fixture.
Why is it ... that every one of these "Sharkbite" videos ... contains about five minutes of jabber ... for every one minute of actual useful information?