How to install a Cast Iron Table Saw on a Workbench - EP 1

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  • @Paoson_Woodworking
    @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому +5

    Plans for this Workbench: bit.ly/3iRfbd9

  • @rafezetter8003
    @rafezetter8003 Рік тому +6

    For people wonderign why he changed the tablesaw:
    The old dewalt is a brushed motor - extremely noisy as well as less power efficient - it's a "site saw" designed for occasional use. The new saw is designed for regular work and induction motors are considerably quieter and more efficient with both electric usage and power delivery - brushed motors can stop altogether when even medium load as they only have (usually) 2 points of contact for the "brushes" (carbon switches) and the spinning stator of the motor, through which to deliver power to the blade. An induction motor has a continuous ring around the stator making for a much smoother and stronger power delivery.

  • @markhedquist9597
    @markhedquist9597 Рік тому +4

    Looks like a really nice table saw. I'm sure it is a welcome upgrade to the portable jobsite saw.
    Excellent work on the modifications. This work station is a thing of beauty!

  • @oitoitoi1
    @oitoitoi1 Рік тому +3

    Will you not miss the extra power (500W) of the dewalt? I had bought the dewalt 7492 based on your excellent table design that I'm starting at the moment. I do wish I'd shopped around a little more for something with a cast iron top, especially as I live very near an axminster store and this saw with the Black Friday discount is currently cheaper than what I paid for the 7492...on the other hand the rack and pinion fence system on the dewalt, once calibrated, is really excellent, I'd probably only change it for an Incra system which is a very expensive upgrade. The other thing was the Dado blade which the 7492 can take, it never would have occurred to me to modify the axminster machine to fit one!
    Do you find the cast iron top and induction motor to be a significant upgrade?
    I increasingly think Axminster or Felder or someone like that are going to make their own version of your table. Combination type machines/benches are so much more convenient for most hobby woodworkers than the current offerings, even the felder/hammer combination machines aren't really designed in a way that can be operated without having 360 degree access, which is hard to get in a small 1 garage workshop.

    • @joe_ferreira
      @joe_ferreira Рік тому +1

      Rockler rock steady tables can be used as modular frames to start but I haven't yet seen prefab modular workbenches yet.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому +9

      yes, I think it's a significant upgrade. I'm about to finish editing a new video review of the two saws! Jobsite VS Cast Iron Table Saw

    • @oitoitoi1
      @oitoitoi1 Рік тому

      @@joe_ferreira I think it's not so much the modular element as the workbench type layout that makes it so convenient; it can easily fit against a wall and rolled out when you need it, it's allowed me to fit so many other machines into my workshop that I never could really do before; e.g. a free standing 10" planer thicknesser that can fit next to this bench along a wall. The modular aspect you mentioned where it can fit together with a regular workbench or mft table is just icing on the cake really. Tbh you don't even need the outfeed extension on this if you can use your workbench as one.
      If you want a normal tablesaw with similar capacity and functionality you basically need a panel saw or largish contractors saw which just isn't space efficient at all. This great table is such a magnificent bit of problem solving, it gives you that contractors saw capacity, with a carriage, while fitting in the router table, I'm such a huge fan of it as a designer. I'm trying to get a 6mm steel top made for my router table and table extension surfaces, I wonder if long term I should have something similar made for my Dewalt 7492 too.

    • @oitoitoi1
      @oitoitoi1 Рік тому +1

      @@Paoson_Woodworking damn...wish I'd held off now and got this axminster one! oh well, it will do the job I guess, maybe in 10 years I can justify changing it haha.

    • @oitoitoi1
      @oitoitoi1 Рік тому

      @@Paoson_Woodworking looking forward to/dreading it!

  • @Jazzamatazz-gkl
    @Jazzamatazz-gkl 29 днів тому

    Hi, great video's! I bought your plans and ordered the iron table saw. Have to wait 2 month's at least. I'm thinking about making the workbench as wide as the saw table. (680 mm I believe, instead of 570 mm) just like you did with DeWalt saw. Perhaps you would be better off with the dust extraction. Is there a reason not to do this or is it perhaps smarter to do it while I can still adjust this. Could you please give an advise.

  • @VizziMoto
    @VizziMoto Рік тому +1

    You should make a video/plan for the Compact SawStop Table Saw and this workbench. Would make my dreams come true.

  • @HODYODesign
    @HODYODesign Рік тому +1

    Hello Suso, your workbench has reached such a level that it is more like a piece of art now!! Interesting little saw. My dream saw would be a jobsite saw with an induction motor as I don't care much about the flatness of the aluminum top (mine is terrible, same Dewalt as yours). Anyway, I digress.
    Awesome job as usual, looking forward to watching your video comparing the two saws.

  • @darkosimic86
    @darkosimic86 Рік тому +7

    I have AW254ts; the model that came before the one you have. It is the same saw but with different colors. I also upgraded from dewalt and I never looked back :)
    One upgrade I did on my saw is gluing small (ca 5mm in diameter) neodymian magnet in the slot for the fence handle and that way it doesn't close on itself when I am trying to fine tune the cut.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому +2

      I have already had this problem, thanks for your idea Darko!

    • @DirkieB
      @DirkieB Рік тому

      Another genius suggestion. I hate that the handle keeps falling down and auto locking it!

  • @ercyedgy6654
    @ercyedgy6654 Рік тому +2

    Hi. Good work :) It seems that the riving knife is shorter than the one in the axminster saw web site. Is it homemade or do you have a reference to share ?

  • @RJ-tr5fm
    @RJ-tr5fm 2 місяці тому

    J'adore vos vidéos j'ai part ailleurs déjà acheter les plans du workbench je l'ai construit et j'en suis très content je vous en remercie je l'ai juste un peu mis a mes besoin mais il est très bien pensé à la base Merci beaucoup

  • @clloyd21
    @clloyd21 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! I bought your plans over the summer and bought a Delta 36-725t2. This will help!

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      I would love to see some photos of your version with that saw!

  • @owenjones-wells9395
    @owenjones-wells9395 6 місяців тому

    Where did you get the longer fence rail from?
    I have decided the quieter more efficient motor wins over the DeWalt, but i really need the 600mm+ cutting capacity.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  6 місяців тому +1

      www.paoson.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1940#p9229

  • @1987marris
    @1987marris 8 місяців тому

    Great video. I have the same saw and noticed you have changed the original riving knife. Which did you use to replace?

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  8 місяців тому +1

      I'm using the Dewalt 7492-QS riving knife, I've bought a replacement to use with this Axminster saw

  • @viorsa8200
    @viorsa8200 Рік тому

    ESPECTACULAR,no, lo siguiente, no hay más palabras.👌🤓😜

  • @GianmariaFadini
    @GianmariaFadini Рік тому

    Happy to hear that some of you have good feedback with this axminster cast iron table. I had the previous version AC254TS that was red but mechanically they didn't change evena a screw. I had a really bad experience with this product:
    1. Cast Iron top not flat
    2. Bad tolerances on the T-Tracks
    3. Really bad extension panels on the side and back
    3. Mechanical vibration on the riving knife
    For the last listed problem, I had to send it back two times and the technical team didn't find the root cause. Probably there is some eccentricity on the motor shaft.
    My overall opinion is that the product is good for noise reduction but it is not really an upgrade respect to some really decent job site table saw like the Dewalt.
    It is manufactured in China so the Quality of the product can be very variable from time to time. Maybe I got two times a bad piece :(
    At the end I finished buying the DWE7492 as a replacement.
    At least I can say that the Axminster support is great.

  • @bmz1
    @bmz1 Рік тому

    No! You can't update your working bench, I did not start the orginial design and just received my Dewalt table saw... ;-)
    Thanks for all your videos, always very interesting the way you're explaining and doing!

  • @DeMaulwurfn1983
    @DeMaulwurfn1983 Рік тому

    Why did you change the machines? A belt drive is of course something fine. Did you just want something new? Or is the Dewalt not good?
    Greetings from Germany

  • @timromano7085
    @timromano7085 Рік тому

    In the US from 1950-1970, you could buy a cast-iron saw with a narrow table and short fence rails; extension wings and long fence rails for sheet-goods and a superior rip-fence were available as upgrades not as standard features forced upon the customer. Axminster is following that retro base-model-with-upgrade-path approach. Axminster is also including a feature that normally doesn't appear on saws priced under $2,000. Its trunnions are mounted to the cabinet not bolted to the table top. Aligning blade with miter slots can be very difficult when the motor is hanging from the table top. And it is very compact! The Axminster puts an internal induction motor in a bench-top cabinet! There's nothing like it in the US today. When we are buying a new saw (to get one with a riving knife) our choice is between lightweight portable saws that don't want to stay aligned (if you can even get them aligned) and big saws with very wide rails optimized for sheet goods.

  • @toddpeterson1673
    @toddpeterson1673 3 місяці тому

    I have watched several of your videos now, and your a damn genius! Love your work!

  • @tgirard123
    @tgirard123 Рік тому

    Wait, when you filed down the end of the axle to use the dado blades, didn't that change the center of your single blade? Wouldn't your zero clearance plates and all the other changes you made be different now?

  • @slahsamet8722
    @slahsamet8722 Рік тому

    I love it .. I love it .. I love it !!! .. I need this table saw!
    but I'm not a ok with the modification made for the dado blade .. it's too approximate in my opinion
    otherwise ... still as beautiful .. still as perfect .. sir playwood master

  • @owenjones-wells9395
    @owenjones-wells9395 5 місяців тому

    You state in the video about providing a link for how you made the insert plate, but i cannot see it.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  5 місяців тому

      www.paoson.com/blog/en/how-to-make-a-router-table-insert-plate/

  • @theaustindude
    @theaustindude Рік тому

    Does anyone know if/where Compacmel can be found in the US?

  • @sandman2651
    @sandman2651 Рік тому

    It will be very interesting to see what further changes or upgrades you do to this saw, i have the axminster ac216 ts which is the same as yours. I have a couple of issues with my saw it will be interesting to see if yours has them as time goes on, on a funny note i suspect axminster will be spitting feathers with your walk through on how to fit dado blades by filing spindle down.As always very informative and very well explained looking forward to part 2.

  • @ovidijuspokvytis1746
    @ovidijuspokvytis1746 Рік тому

    Amizing, were i can found some drawings how to make work bench

  • @wellingtoncopas9213
    @wellingtoncopas9213 Рік тому +1

    ficou top máquina muito boa essa sua sera que vende para brasil

    • @ValeuaDica
      @ValeuaDica Рік тому +1

      Só o frete dá mais de 4 mil, fora impostos quando bater aqui na receita federal...

  • @mwwoodworksco
    @mwwoodworksco Рік тому

    I,ve had this saw for just over a year and its amazing. Never falls out of square. Nice idea about the table extension.

  • @thorsten9437
    @thorsten9437 8 місяців тому

    Hi! May I ask which short riving knife you are using with the saw? Axminster seem to not sell one at their shop website. Thanks a lot!

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  8 місяців тому +1

      I am using a spare part from my other Dewalt saw: www.paoson.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1940#p11285

    • @thorsten9437
      @thorsten9437 7 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot!

  • @CaptainofmyShed
    @CaptainofmyShed Рік тому

    Fantastic. Ive just bought this saw!

  • @DirkieB
    @DirkieB Рік тому

    Amazing! I have this saw (well, the previous model, Axminster Craft). The little corner extension on the fence is genius! I’m making plans to build this thing now that you have the same saw 😊

  • @HolzVeloWaerker
    @HolzVeloWaerker 4 місяці тому

    Really a perfect Workbench 👏👏👏

  • @christopherblack2301
    @christopherblack2301 Рік тому

    Is the material you use for the top a composite material?

  • @ПавелБалахонцев-с4с

    Где купить данный стол или модель подскажите?

  • @b3arwithm3
    @b3arwithm3 Рік тому

    This is the mother of all workbench.

  • @LariFariYoutube
    @LariFariYoutube Рік тому

    You could use strong tarp, leather or some other flexible material to cover the bottom of the saw. For better dust extraction.. Well done..Greets from Germany

    • @darkosimic86
      @darkosimic86 Рік тому

      I think saw comes with bottom cover but it is embossed and because of that total height of the saw would be greater and I think he would have hard(er) time fitting it in the bench...

  • @unsettle5162
    @unsettle5162 Рік тому

    Great video, thanks very much. I have the same saw (older Craft version in red), and I’d like to change the riving knife. Are you using a custom made riving knife in your saw? Thanks again.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому +1

      it's the riving knife from the other Dewalt saw, I want to buy another one to use with the Axminster saw

  • @MarkSmith-xj1xk
    @MarkSmith-xj1xk Рік тому

    Great work as always Suso!
    I am wondering... I take it, you have a dedicated miter saw station. Concerning your mobile workbench with the cast iron saw and router table - could a portable miter roll stand be added/connected to the end of the bench and use the same track guides and top for cuts? Similar to this (ua-cam.com/video/hmXx7R8VBPM/v-deo.html) but with a better design typical of your work. Thanks!!

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому +1

      could be done! I have in mind designing a new bench dedicated to the miter saw

  • @danielakerman8241
    @danielakerman8241 Рік тому

    Amazing work, but why not just upgrade to an actual cabinet saw? A cabinet saw would require less modification, would keep its warranty, would fit a dado stack without having to modify the arbor, and would overall probably cost about the same as what you’ve spent here…

  • @johnnyalicia4976
    @johnnyalicia4976 Рік тому

    ✋ p̴r̴o̴m̴o̴s̴m̴

  • @LZNico
    @LZNico Рік тому

    Great video as always!!!! this saw is pretty good for the price, I have the previous model and it works great, dust collection tho, not so much, pretty bad actually!!! do you know if this one is any better?? thank you

  • @bradleytuckwell4881
    @bradleytuckwell4881 Рік тому

    It looks like a great saw so compacted

  • @geko7950
    @geko7950 Рік тому

    Paoson 0:00:02 to 0:00:05 - I would love it if you would do a video on how to effectively make a "pop-up" table. Many of us are working out of a garage, and learning how to make a level pop-up table top like this would be amazing for many of us!

  • @sgudala2829
    @sgudala2829 Рік тому

    hi, very nice. Good Job like it. where did you buy the top melamine white sheet. i am in US.

  • @1975oldschool
    @1975oldschool Рік тому

    Beautiful work sir 👍🏻

  • @luismariano001
    @luismariano001 Рік тому

    Perfectly well done job, but I had would installed a SawTop table saw

  • @РоманАникеев-м8н

    Где и у кого купить такое чудо? , какая цена?

  • @jay26cee
    @jay26cee Рік тому

    Hi, great videos first and foremost! I am very interested in your workbench, and will probably try to build one in 2023. But I'll need to modify mine for the slightly smaller Axminster 216 model saw. So, I'll be looking to purchase your plans at some point in the near future. Do you by any chance intend on creating a modified set of plans for the Axminster saw? If not, any considerations not mentioned in this video on things not mentioned?

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      I think you can use that saw without modifying the the bench frames, just modifying the tops, just like I did in this video

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      btw, I will show how to modify the tops in the next video

  • @rhcp1923
    @rhcp1923 Рік тому

    Great project! How is the dust collection and noise level with the new saw? Also I noticed it's 50Hz, any idea if the motor is compatible with 60Hz or if there are additional options available for US power frequency? I haven't seen many bench top cast iron options out there.
    Cheers!

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      I'm editing a new video where I will explain these issues. I think it's impossible to buy this saw in the US, but here's something similar:
      www.paoson.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1940#p9250

    • @timromano7085
      @timromano7085 Рік тому

      @@Paoson_Woodworking Similar? Hardly.

  • @alessandrosilva4441
    @alessandrosilva4441 Рік тому

    I didn't understand why you decided to chance the table saw. The other one didn't work properly? Did you think this could work better than that Dewalt table saw on this workbench?

    • @rafezetter8003
      @rafezetter8003 Рік тому +1

      The old one is a brushed motor - extremely noisy as well as less power efficient, induction mototrs are considerably quieter, and more efficient with both electric usage and power delivery - brushed motors can stop altogether when even medium load as they only have (usually) 2 points of contact for the "brushes" (carbon switches) and the spinning stator of the motor, through which to deliver power to the blade. An induction motor has a continuous ring around the stator making for a much smoother and stronger power delivery.

    • @scruggs.jonathan
      @scruggs.jonathan 6 місяців тому

      The new one was given to him. Lol. I'd change my saw too someone gave me a saw. 😂

  • @clydedecker765
    @clydedecker765 Рік тому

    Again your ingenuity comes through. I do understand the advantage of a cast iron top. My saw has an aluminum one and I have regretted that almost from day one but it was a gift. I am a little confused by the mods you had to make to the rails and fence. I am sure it will all clear up before you're done.

    • @Realism91
      @Realism91 Рік тому

      I dislike my Ridgid Cast Iron table saw, the casting wasn't properly rested so it cupped around the throat plate by 1/16" 1.5mm in certain avoidable situations it can cause half lap joints to inconsistently fit. I flattened it with a slab flattening jig since carbide can cut cast iron as seen on the channel "Cosmas Bauer" when he modified his saw with a router. I'd say bring a staight edge to check the floor models at the store. It's a product of skipping steps in manufacturing possibly to save space.

    • @Realism91
      @Realism91 Рік тому

      Makita has higher tolerances for aluminum table saw flatness. Makita often has greater value than others too, their track saw's, their hepa dust extractors.

  • @brunoconsolandi4052
    @brunoconsolandi4052 Рік тому

    Complimenti

  • @crowndroyal
    @crowndroyal Рік тому

    Great work.

  • @juliusganot1321
    @juliusganot1321 Рік тому

    Nice.....😲👍

  • @robgasman8646
    @robgasman8646 Рік тому

    Hi Suso,
    First my compliments, love your workbench series. I have also ordered the AW254TS and it arrived today. For your informatieontsluiting, you decided not to mount the baseplate, because of the bulge on the outside. But the bulge should be on the inside. See figure 08 at page 9 of the manual.
    I realize that this is an entree level cast iron saw. But is your cast iron plate flat? Mine has a bow downwards towards the middle. The difference is almost 1mm.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      hi Rob! that bulge hits the midrail of the workbench. I think I'm going to put cloth or plastic in its place.
      Mine too, but it doesn't reach 1mm, it's about 0.5mm. From what I've read, all low to medium budget cast iron saws have this problem. Send me some pictures of your worktop please. You will find my email at the bottom of the web.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      1mm seems too much to me, you should consider returning it to the store

    • @robgasman8646
      @robgasman8646 Рік тому

      Hi Suso, Have you checked the manual at page 9? The bulge should be facing inside. No interferance with your midrail.

    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      I think the bulge should be facing outside to allow room for the motor when tilting the blade to 45 degrees!

    • @robgasman8646
      @robgasman8646 Рік тому

      I will measure exactely with a feeler cauche. If the deviation is more than 0,5 mm I will contact Axminster.

  • @БорисМартынцев-ж5н

    👍👍👍💯

  • @Dobbo2958
    @Dobbo2958 Рік тому

    😀

  • @bodechonolivier5379
    @bodechonolivier5379 Рік тому

    Bonjour pourquoi avoir changé de machine ?

  • @leoseyers
    @leoseyers Рік тому

    saw gauge reference ? :)

  • @terrytopliss9506
    @terrytopliss9506 Рік тому

    Looking good.👍👍

  • @coconutfilipino5514
    @coconutfilipino5514 Рік тому

    Nicely done!

  • @mattruth6287
    @mattruth6287 Рік тому

    Love it.

  • @thedjkay
    @thedjkay Рік тому

    Man with all this work you should of casted a iron table for the Dewalt easier

  • @diegogoecking
    @diegogoecking Рік тому

    COMPLETAMENTE PERFECCIONISTA

  • @kaonovas9020
    @kaonovas9020 Рік тому

    I refer your table saw workbench to maked one many month ago, and it can be adjust high when we replace the table saw.
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    • @Paoson_Woodworking
      @Paoson_Woodworking  Рік тому

      could you send me some photos by email? I think your idea will help other people. You will find my address at the end of the web: www.paoson.com

    • @kaonovas9020
      @kaonovas9020 Рік тому

      @@Paoson_Woodworking Please check email.