As an individual who can pick up technology and get used to using it very easily I've found OS X to be the most difficult and confusing thing to interact with. It's elegant in appearance, sure. It completely lacks elegance in utility however.
You have what I call OS laziness, not saying it to be an ass whole, but you have to configure Mac to operate how you want it to operate. You can't expect it to do everything for you, like Windows.
Windows 7 Gamer I disagree, I mainly use Linux with 7 on the side. I always do registry edits and fiddle with the Android OS on my phone as well. The fact of the matter is that Linux for example is meant to be simple and easy to bend to your will. That's why man people customize it their way. It's a clean canvas. With OS X I find that it's not only inelegant but is also a very messy canvas.
Same here! Chrome OS, Ubuntu, other random builds of Linux, Windows, all simple. Put me in front of a mac and I can't figure out basic things. Like the copy and paste or running a file from the desktop or virtual PC or whatever it is. But the worst thing is finder. It's awful and incredibly unintuitive.
***** I use a MacBook Air solely for study, and its multitasking is just unmatched for me, incredibly fluid and easy to use. I do agree some aspects aren't very intuitive, but this is all subjective.
About those Finder complaints: (1) Sorting is NOT system wide. For each window you can enter cmd+"j" and choose how you want to sort the items in that particular window, without altering others. (2) I don't know what he means by "internal storage gets all piled together." There is a specific hierarchy, he probably hasn't understood it yet. (3) The force-refresh thing is true, but if it's taking long to refresh you can always close and reopen the window, or even enter cmd+opt+esc and relaunch finder. (4) There are two thumbnail sizes ONLY when you view items as a list. Enter cmd+1 to see them as icons, and you can continuously adjust the item size in that same menu (cmd+"j"). And that is NOT system wide. (5) The thing about cut-paste is true, but what he doesn't seem to understand is that keyboard shortcuts are not a nuisance, they are THE WAY to use a Mac. (6) Up-directory is cmd+uparrow.
Quite true. He should have googled mac keyboard shortcuts. Ironically, windows users used to say Mac users have to use the mouse and windows is more powerful because I can do things more quickly with the keyboard. Now the claim is reversed. Irony at its best. Regarding some of your points: Point (2) Agreed, though the mac used to be more clear. I'm surprised he didn't click on his machine name in the Devices list and see pretty much the same things as the windows file system. Point (3) True. The refresh thing is annoying. But to restart the finder, thats a pretty drastic solution for refreshing. Point(5) Apple added this but in an odd way. You copy as normal then instead of Command V you do Command Option V to do the move. Its odd but present.
Leonard Li Winchester Because he admires Jobs? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were friends btw. They were even talking to each other when Steve was dying (RIP)
Leonard Li Winchester Why would they phone each other if they didn't like each other? They never talked about either ones company in the later days either.
What makes a mac sound even worse is you have to buy apps just to do simple things that should already be there. Imagine that everyone on windows had to pay $14 just to scroll with the middle mouse button?
TalesOfWar That should absolutely already be there. I use it a ton when wanting to scroll quickly up or down to the top or bottom of a page and know it will be faster than going over to the scroll bar.
TalesOfWar It is though, for a youtube content creator wanting to go through the comments, scrolling becomes irritating after several hundred comments.
I purchased an 11" Macbook air off craigslist to try out the , " Mac Experience," and I was super impressed! I then sold it to purchase a Macbook 15" Retina and man I cannot be more happy...I'll never go back to windows for productivity. I do have a gaming rig that I run Windows 8.1 on, but even then I'm considering loading linux on it now that they have STEAM. Apple products seems to work flawlessly together and I seem to enjoy the experience all the time. I just wish they weren't so damn expensive...5k imac, I got my eye on you!
givemeajackson Millions on Windows? I nor any of my friends, have gotten any virus in the last 5-6 years. Microsoft seems to be doing something right to be keeping them out. According to some very skilled hackers, OS X is easier to hack.
So much has changed in the last 7 years of Mac, I’d say at least half of Linus’s complaints have been completely resolved (or had simple solutions at the time that he wasn’t aware of). Especially with Finder.
Still though, Finder sucks in comparison to File Explorer. Finder works for basic stuff, but the convenience in Windows of being able to type exact directories, or having default Music, Video, and Picture folders is way better than finder. Gallery also being in File Explorer is way more convenient than going to a separate app to view all of your pictures. Also IMO, File Explorer looks way better.
@@MicahIsBatman2 I much prefer Finder. You can do all of that stuff and much more. 1. You can go to an exact directory using the "go to folder" option, or shift+cmd+G. 2. Finder has default music, video and picture folders. 3. You can look through your photos in finder easily enough using several different options, none of which are exactly the same as on Windows, but is more flexible. 4. appearance is an odd thing to bring up when it comes to a file manager, but I personally prefer the minimalism of Finder over all the clutter in the side and top bar of Windows Explorer. I will say that Windows 11 makes it (and everything) look a *lot* better than it used to though.
Most of your OS complaints are clearly a result of unfamiliarity with how things work. I suggest you learn your way around the interface more before complaining.
Leonardo Daniels A Mac is a different experience to Windows, it takes a while to learn the ins and outs. Also, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you so rude? He wasn't being rude to you!
Thats the problem no one whats to learn how to us things now a days u just wanna hop on a us it windows 7 for example I have only 3 things in my desktop chrome my security and files simple I know how to right click and left click (I have problems with that on mac)
Leonardo Daniels You're pathetic if you think people can't work on Macs just like they could on a Windows machine. I make a living using a Mac, but I could do the same with a PC, but wouldn't dare switch back. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that I'm more intelligent than you are. Enjoy being narrow minded.
Everything he said was objectively true. It's the biggest thing holding the OS back, in my opinion (other than the fact that I am a control freak, and Apple products are anathema to control freaks).
Is there a setting where you can turn on auto snap in folders. Like when you drag and drop files into one. I just remember they just used to be placed exactly where you dropped them and it would all end up one massive mess. Man it used to drive my OCD nuts...
There is one thing which I absolutely love about finder, and that is the column based view. But otherwise, they somehow managed to ruin what was a pretty solid file manager going from 10.6 onwards.
+adil m Not only that, but there are many things he missed. I guess he needs more time... Still, Apple sucks for changing things that were really good. We never needed launchpad, using the Apps folders is still the best. Also Exposé worked better than Mission Control, among other little things... even some gestures were better and more natura on Snow Leopard than they were after. Of course, I appreciate the new stuff, the new Finder is much better than the old one, etc, etc...
+Vendetta V What's with this fucking UA-cam glitch that when you edit comments the apostrphes change to '. It's been around so much that it's not even a glitch anymore.
Agreed. Everyone thumbs up this comment so LMG team can see and convince Linus to finally give a reasonable version of Linux an honest try. He has used Windows, he tried Crapple. Now is the TIIIIME for OPen source baby!! \m/
I would love to see Linus try out Linux. Specifically Ubuntu, as that one is the most complete out of the box (from what I've used anyways; I'm sure there's others which are just as good out of the box though).
Sean Kim There's nothing wrong with Unity. :v You use whatever works for you. Unity works well for me. And the great thing about Linux is you can turn it into whatever you want.
That is a hard switch if you have never had past experience with any of the distributions before. It is harder to configure at the start, but once you do, it is in my opinion the best OS stream out there. Just not for gaming, Windows has that on ever OS.
SeaJay I think a " When i switched to Linux " Fedora would have to get Red Hat's approval and/or try for a Red Hat sponsership as it would be cool be Red Hat is picky about what they do and do not allow into their enviroment. So if Linus could attract them then that would be like super awesome ... i doubt he would get a free copy of Red Hat Linux but of Fedora Gnome 3 for it that would be cool. If he actually does do a Linux thing i think it will be more of Ubuntu though um probably the Lubuntu or Xubuntu versions not straight out Ubuntu as Ubuntu is very clunky and bloated while Lubuntu and Xubuntu are not as much bloated. To that Lunbuntu and Xubuntu are fairly easy to pick up and use with a almost entirely GUI based interface with only a few exceptions that the avg user wont use like setting a static IP address and setting up a server and stuff like that are almost entirely in terminal but the avg user part like firefox and LibreOffice is preinstalled and ready to go out of the box um fresh install as Cronical does not have a box for their distros.
What I do love about OS X is how all installed programs are installed within one folder called Applications. No not shortcuts, the programs them selfs without the need to go into Program Files and look for the install directory to find a specific .exe I'm looking for. Without having to make a folder filled with shortcuts, scrolling through "all apps" on the start menu or filling up the desktop with shortcuts. Haven't had a Mac in a while, but they do have their handy features as well. Stuff that are annoyances on Windows might not be on Mac and viseversa basically.
TalesOfWar And yet, this Apple 5K computer has a color gamut that isn't up to professional standards, where as that Dell 5K monitor does have a professional color gamut. Lets not compare a gaming grade display to a professional tool
iMacs are meant to be used with Apple keyboards. For example, with an apple keyboard, f3 is used to access Mission Control. It is the same thing with brightness, it's on the Mac keyboard. I don't think you can configure a keyboard other than Apple's own to do things like that on Macs, I've tried with my G710+ on my Macbook. I had no luck. This just goes to show how Apple is stubborn with third party compatibility. I love many of Apple's products, but things like this make me not like post-Wozniak Apple as a company.
By the way, I am not a Windows hater, I use a PC myself for my computer. Just wanted to say that before someone goes on a rant about how PC is better than Mac...
he could probably have changed a system setting to change the scrolling if he had googled it. The setting is not available in a preference pane, so he would have had to use Terminal, but whatever.
Dude, I'm a Mac user - I use it quite a bit and bought my first one in 2009. The transition and change was an Epic mind-job and I couldn't agree more with EVERYTHING you've mentioned in this video. Found myself laughing out loud at the little annoyances I went through. Great job on pointing them out. The prices are high, some things aren't very intuitive and for a power user, it's even more annoying. I could share a list of other annoying things you've missed - but I might take up too much space in this comment. However, I'm the kind of techie that fully invests in the competition and I fell in love with just a few things that came from the iOS world that I can't have on Windows and for that reason, I've been following their incremental updates over the years and given them a chance. From being a die hard (and Certified) support specialist and expert on Windows - I'm still finding it weird that I'm still using a Mac at home (and taking it to work). Stranger things have happened. By the way, 1 month isn't enough to migrate. After 7 years, I only learnt about how to do a few more common Windows tasks this year. I also advise all my friends and colleagues who naturally want to copy what I'm doing to please be mindful that the shift and switch can be a painful one if unprepared. Strangely enough, many of them still did and they've stuck with it - can't explain it...
Yep. If it's a professional font, download or buy it, open it, click install, you now have it computer wide. I've gotten a ton of fonts for Photoshop and After Effects, it's all the same process and goes to your programs/system universally.
***** Not true lad. On Windows 7/8 - you click on the download folder, double-click the font, click "Install," on the upper right hand corner and it installs in seconds. Or you could just open the download folder, right-click the actual font file and click on "Install" without even opening the file.
Being a Mac person, I can understand your frustrations with certain features. However, most of this is just not using the system to your liking. There are many options for helping your workflow in Finder that you may not have explored. I will not argue that the user experience is different, but Windows people make it seem difficult. Shortcut keys are your life in many applications, and Mac OS X is no different. Learn them and use both of your hands you uni-plegics. The mouse isn't for everyone, but I for one love the scroll action and the ability to use gestures to improve workflow. I'm not sure why you had issues with scroll speed, as it only moves as fast as you do and does allow flicks to scroll quickly like a cellphone. The Mac is not for everyone, but I feel they have done more right and have better features than a Windows OS experience. However, it's all subjective and to each their own.
Im sorry man but that mouse is a god damn joke. I had to use it at school and I HATED every second of it. As a 3d modeller and concept artist...its not useful AT ALL...
argh im a magic human with telepathic abilities.. No on most windows "pre build" for example laptops they aren't and lets see you got a nice new printer there already downloaded you're drivers? On my os x driven laptop they are already there. :p
Actually, iMacs, and IOS devices are specified for a specific purpose. Video Editing, Photoshop, and things of that nature. So, to you they may seem useless, but to people that actually use them for that purpose, and use it well, are very useful. Therefore, your comment is invalid.
Yeta s many videos show. A 10000 dollar configuration with Mac Pro cant stand up at all with a 9700$ custom PC. Apple get your shit together and update stuff
Crispy Batman No. An upgradeable pc will always be better beacause Apple is limited by partnerships and very few bands got the moeny to live up to Apple's requests and BS. Laptops maybe but a computer isnt supposed to last a year
I've never ever used an apple product (like seriously, ever), and from what I've seen in this video it looks like some sort of alien technology. Like seriously, you can't just copy and paste files, refresh folders, and file sorting is system-wide? Stupid sht like that makes me wonder why do people actually use these, unless they have to?
***** Doesnt work. I had a hackintosh and I had to get this one program online (by questionable means since it was $60)... Also Im on Yosemite...So... Nope.... Read the comments next time...
While I do understand the sentiment that Macs are overpriced for their performance, people don't seem to understand that Macs aren't designed for hardcore gamers (which is what this youtube channel is mostly targeting). The Mac is designed as a workstation desktop for graphics/web designers and other artists. OSX is an experience you have to try for yourself to understand. The "gaming PCs are cheaper" argument is like saying "why own a sports car when I can ride a train?" Sure the train can get you from point A to point B more cheaply, but you don't buy a sports car to get there for less money. You buy a sports car for the experience of owning a sports car! -PC gamer and Macbook owner
Ninja2337 But if you are doing doing graphics design as a professional, the cost of the hardware is far less important. If you do this for a living, owning a Mac is an investment, not just a luxury.
LimitedWard (Don't take this as a personal attack I have just gotten a bit angry with seeing this.) I really hate people who use this as an "This is why you buy mac" I'm a graphic designer. I also do art for a bit of spare money on various sites. Mac is no different than windows. AT ALL, hell I find Windows a whole lot easier. And saying it's for lifestyle is an even worse statement. you are the people that brainwash artists into spending assloads of money on crappy hardware and dumb software. All my artists friends except a select few use mac. And every day I hear about how it's broke and they have to buy a whole new one or where they have to send it for repairs, or some other crap. I build computers for people and when they tell me this.. I literally try to convince them they should buy a PC and if they must I can install MacOS on it. Yeah, it's a sports car, one that you have to buy a new one every 5 months. It's god, damn ridicules. I actually did get one of my artist friends to move to PC AND THEY FUCKING LOVE IT. and it hasn't broke in the last 3 years they have had it. And even if it did I would fix it for FREE, because with PC's it's EASY, and CHEAPER if needing replacements. So no. Macs are for people that want to look "Edgy" like a guy that buys a huge truck to compensate for his small offerings. But hey, I'm not knocking you for liking it. just stop lieing to others. Give them a chance to experience both and let them decide. Don't Treat either of them as "GOD" Among OS.
buying that particular imac for graphic design would make more sense if it had a touch screen and came with an arm so that you could move it all around to draw on. Otherwise what good is the optimized software if you could get better overall hardware.
Kaede Ishimora I'm not sure how your friends are treating their Macs that they are breaking down so often. I've had my Macbook Pro since 2009, and although it has gotten slower (as would any 6-year-old computer) it has never broken on me. My mother also owns a Mac (an older model of the one in this video), which she's had for about the same amount of time. Last year I decided to build my own gaming PC, and let me tell you, I never had so many computer problems in my entire life. In the past year, I've had at least a dozen crashes (which I just recently discovered was due to an out-of-date BIOS). In other words, my PC experience has been far more choppy than my Mac experience. In terms of ease of use, I think it's all a combination of preference and what you are used to. I grew up using both systems, and I've become adept at using both OSs, but the majority of my family definitely prefers OSX (the exception being my father who has exclusively used Windows).
Hybrid user here, a configured Magic Trackpad does wonders. No push clicking needed, lots of gestures. I use one on a PC too, the Mac's mouse is not fun.
Something Linus forgot to mention. That "5k" panel is a 2560x1440 EFFECTIVELY. Paying 2500USD for a computer that needs upgrades out the bat for people that not only uses a computer for browsing Facebook is RIDICULOUS. I can build a X99 build with freaking 12 cores and DDR4 with blazing fast throughput with that kind of cash. People that buys MAC for serious work are just idiots.
TalesOfWar No shit, because a Xeon is miles better than a Mac. The i7 processors are a huge deal better than Macs too. You could find a $1500 pre-built i7 PC and use the other $1500 for 2 4K monitors and peripherals.
TalesOfWar This argument doen' t make much sense. Sorry to jump in, but in large work environments contracts are made to get the best offer with the least expense. No cto/ceo/cfo or whoever would pay more for the same performance/quality and he would never pay full price. Sometimes, not to say often, the machines are leased, with all the benefits of the case. On the other side, we mortals have to pay big bucks so a custom PC/workstation is the way to go. And if one is not able to put it together he can go to a workshop and get it assembled for 50/100 euros.
TalesOfWar Why yes, of course, that' s why i wrote "on the other side" ;) It' us with no chance to get leasing and service contracts. Us, who have to pay retail prices; and that matters.
I see so many windows fanboys in the commentsection... Could people instead of just blindly following one brand try to be objective? I don't use mac, not because i dislike it, but because I've been raised with Windows and I don't need the features from Apple. However, the Mac OS seems very appealing if you like to create media content. Stop fanboying out with stupid arguments such as: APPLE STOLE WINDOWS TECH, and the otherway around...... sigh.
Peter Kay The 5K 60Hz IPS display is something that's quite rare though. Not that I would work on 4K content with this machine, but very accurate colors + high resolution is exactly what you want.
Wyrdak But that monitor alone already costs you $2500 Dell site: accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=UP275K3 That's the same price as the complete iMac: Apple site: store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac-retina So if you buy this mac and run Windows on it, you basically got a computer for free compared to the Dell monitor. Look I would never buy it myself, but the price of this thing ain't too shabby for what they're offering. And I am willing to agree that both OSs have very similar capabilities.
True, but you can use what hardware you want instead of the one that comes with iMac. I mean, iMac has some great hardware if you are willing to throw more money on it but you are prety limited by GPU and CPU. While you can use standalone monitor for multiple builds you can use iMac only as an iMac without ability to change hardware to your liking. It really just comes down to what you will do with it.
+Roberto Picardie I don't even think the Windows key is where the Command key is ._. If anything, he might confuse it with the control key but nobody really uses it that much.
+Andres Cadenza Garza V Lol whenever I switch to windows (via bootcamp) I open the start menu at least 4-5 times (copy and paste anyone?) by accident, before I remember to use the control key. Windows key is definitely where the apple/command key is lol.
I just recently installed Windows 10 through Bootcamp and yeah, things are really confusing. Mostly getting used to the older and less "normal" multitasking of Windows 10 and taking a screenshot. You have to open a whole new app to take a shot of a part of a screen instead of pressing Shift + Command + 3/4.
Don't get me wrong, I love Windows. I build and sell computers, the reason I could never leave Windows (not that I'd really want to, it's not bad by any means) is your average user would never buy a Linux machine on eBay/Amazon from somebody. They want familiarity and that's perfectly fine. However, seeing Linux Mint, Ubuntu and other versions of Linux... Just makes me sad Mac is even a thing. Windows has it's universality and dominance in the computer world, why would people settle for such a terrible OS when Linux exists? It looks better than Yosemite, functions better and has real-world utility and usability. Oh well. Sheep are sheep as everybody in the tech world knows.
To be honest, I would probably switch to Linux if I could have proper compatibility with all the programs I use. I have Linux installed on an old netbook and it's quite nice, but I still feel like it's a bit lacking (not because of the OS, but because of software developers) in software compatibility.
***** Dude i know it sounds crazy but it works great. Most people i know have a gaming mouse attached and a trakpad. the trackpad has multi finger gestures and makes the UI interaction great.
Visual Uprising It's not like I havent used a trackpad. I have a laptop, and I would prefer to plug in a mouse every time despite fancy gesture features. "precision shooters" have nothing to do with it.
Mac was never meant to be like windows, and it can be a frustrating experience when you expect things to be the same. When I first switched, I simply took the time to get used to making it work and exploring the settings. This lead to me discovering new apps and abilities that windows users can only dream of having. For example, BetterTouchTool is a custom multi-touch thing for the trackpad. You can close apps, open stuff, change the volume, anything at all with it. Then there's Butler which does the same for Hotkeys (I personally don't use it). Mac can even natively create hotkeys for apps that have a specific function (such as "Merge Windows"). Focus writer which is a translucent text/typing app that can use your own backgrounds (my favorite for school). Sure mac has its weird bugs/quirks, but there will always be a solution. Windows was always a stressful experience for me and practically everyone in our family. Be it drivers, viruses, incompatible hardware, and just the amount of troubleshooting we put into things. I'm still a fan of windows, but mac will always be my favorite over the other brands out there. :)
***** Oh god, another guy who thinks everyone who likes apple thinks everything that isn't apple is copied. I like both operating systems, and I noticed you're a little fan of Windows. So now when that's cleared up we can stop arguing about it.
@6:33 I disagree.. just checked my Windows 8.1 File Explorer - "up directory" exists and is functional. idk why Mac doesn't have it xD Edit: @9:42 In Windows you double click a font to preview it and you can right click -> Install it OR click on the option in the top pane or whatever it is in Windows Explorer
There is no comparison of Windows and Mac.. I switched to Macmini 3 month ago.. and its different Thats it.. most people is too much in to Windows so its not easy as it looks but both were different concept.. thats it.
9:24 My favorite part of any Linus Tech Tips Video: "... I'll be damned if I buy that, instead of a dozen chocolate bars" way to go who ever came up with that line. (9:24)
+dogemeat_ Same here, but I don't mind him. He's been using it for 1 month and is a Windows Expert. You can't change or influence a person in 1 month after a lifetime on another platform. As a PC pro myself - I see his points as valid, but different - rather than simply being negative. I laughed at quite a few.
+Moved.. technically with Macs adding things to the desktop is the worst thing to do since anything on the desktop is pre-loaded since it's assumed you're going to use it. For example if you add a video to the desktop it will load the video in it's entirety so that when you open it playback starts immediately with no loading time.
My mother has been an apple computer user all her life, and has never owned a windows computer. She has almost everything on her desktop. What's the issue?
That is really strange, since it's one of the most common idiotic complaints that Windows users have about OS X. Would have gone well with all the others he mentioned.
my complaint: its an ugly overpriced piece of underpowered shit and if i need to upgrade i can throw it in the trashcan. where the mac pro comes in handy
Oh hey, it's an Apple fanboy who enjoys telling the computer to close a program twice before it will actually do it instead of just telling it once and getting it done.
Jens Thestrup Toft don't know why you think it's idiotic. Close means close. Not hide in the background. Also, maximise means open a whole new virtual desktop in Apple land, instead of actually maximise. I completely understand why Apple does this though, to the average user, once they have open the app once, the second time round, when they go to 'open' it again, it'll seem super fast.
***** I think it's idiotic because it's based on a lack of understanding of how macOS functions. The red button promises to close, which it does - just not the application. It's supposed to close the window, not the application. Similarly with the green button, which isn't supposed to "maximise" (a Windows term which isn't used in macOS). It's supposed to start the application in full screen (what you call a new virtual desktop). If you hold down Alt while clicking the green button, it will instead resize the window to fit the content it is displaying. The Mac operating system has never had a maximise button in the sense that Windows does because there's no point to it.
Watching the Video put a HUGE smirk on my face especially during the "Importing of Photos" thing which reminded me of my Cousins Marriage when my Aunt, supposedly a Mac User, asked me to give her a copy of both the Pictures and Videos I've shot. At it's peak there were 4 people looking confused at a MacBook fiddling around with it in order to copy the goddamn Media from the SD-Card onto the HDD but after like half an hour I somehow managed to get the shit done. I was seriously like: "I build my own PC's complete with acrylic tubing sporting water cooling loops, sleeved custom wiring done by myself, High-End pump and fan controllers, etc... and It took me like 30min to copy/paste a bunch of files from a SD-Card to a PC?!! W-T-F?!" Apple makes beautiful Hardware no doubt but certain Software related decisions... Whoa.
TalesOfWar I think Duraltia is refering to the past "reminded me of my Cousins Marriage when my Aunt" meaning maybe an old mac. I have heard that older macs had problems with importing files into other devices.
F14 and F15 are on full mac wired keyboard (still flat aluminum) above the "home" and "page up" buttons, between the number back and qwerty keyboard. F16, F17, F18, and F19 buttons are above number pad keys. I see this video featured the smaller wireless one which explains why it was missing for you. Also, the "parent directory" feature in Finder windows is available by command-click the title of a finder window, you'll see full path pop down there.
Maybe you could do an iSwitched revision with the new MacBook Pro, just to see how many dongles, adapters and splitters you'll need to use it like the previous Pro.
+gloriousholy well, you're not wrong, lol. The best advice someone gave me is to alias rm to just move files to a delete folder so you can get them back. About once a month slam my heads on the table and say "dang it, should of followed his advice".
+KingFredrickVI The Up Directory in OS X is handled by the folder name at the top. You right click it to pick a higher directory. You can also use CMD+UP_ARROW.
+KingFredrickVI Dude, I can't believe I never did this. There are a few times I've decided I didn't need something and rm'd it as well. It'll probably take a me a few more times to finally put it in, but thank you
as an IT Tech, past linux freak and windows user, i switched to a mac pro tower a few months ago and i absolutely love mac os x. with a couple tiny add ons and commands, it is a killer os.
Should try Ubuntu. It's a bit like a combination between OS X and Windows, and from my experience, is one of the better Linux distros out of the box. Of course, with it being a Linux distro you can turn it into anything you want fairly easily regardless. And adding hotkeys is extremely easy; you can bind them to literally whatever you want (including your own bash scripts). I have mine setup so that I can turn the volume up and down by doing Ctrl + up arrow or + down arrow, which is really nice cuz my keyboard has no built in media controls and I prefer no media controls anyways (other than those that I setup myself through hotkeys). I've tried to do the same in Windows but haven't been able too (I'm sure it's possible, but I have no clue how). Plus you can throw Ubuntu on basically any machine that exists. Although from time to time there will be driver issues, but overall everything tends to work fairly easily.
almost 7 years, using Linux! started with Ubuntu(default). still using Ubuntu(gnome) as my primary workstation.using arch linux for home media server(headless). For new user I would suggest to start with Ubuntu (default unity). soon you would be pro only by heavily using the os and by trying different Linux versions(aka destro). Linux mint also a very good destro. Virtual machine or virtual box is BIG no!
For your problem with windows management, there si actually a function called application windows, which shows previews of all windows of the selected application. The default key shortcut for it is CTRL + up arrow, but if you go to settings, mission control you can select whatever key you want from a list, or set a hot corner for it. It is really useful for working with multiple windows in the same app.
Try the latest Ubuntu, it's incredible, if they keep this progress up it will beat windows and mac OS's in 10-20 years. (unpaid development takes longer). My biggest problem with linux was installing software, but now they have an "app store" (for some things)
Currently thinking about switching to Mac: Thank you for this rewiev it gave me a good and actually quite funny overwiev about the issues and good Parts of the system. Very good Video!
In terms of the stuff you claim OS X can't do, it generally can do everything you want it to, it's just not explained anywhere. Copy is cmd + C, paste is cmd + V, etc.
That, uh, "spaces" thing reminds me of something I saw over a decade ago in... What's it called again? Oh right: Linux. Good to see one of the big kahunas realized what a good idea that is.
Folder Up is part of Finder, but it's hidden away: right click the Folder Name at the top center of the Finder window and you'll get a drop-down with all the folders above your current one. Also works on some apps as well, but compatibility is spotty.
LinusTechTips True. Even if you call the drop down a half-measure, it's certainly not a one-click convenience like what Windows has/had. That aside Linus, this series has been insanely insightful, especially as a dual Windows and Mac user. You've raised many points for how Macs could improve, and if I weren't forced to use a Mac for my job as a web developer, I'd be reconsidering my options right this second. Thanks, as always :D
4:02 - THAT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH WHEN I WAS USING A MAC AT WORK!! You go to the menu to try and learn a shortcut command for, say, Force Quit. And it says "sideways clover leaf symbol, circle with arrow sticking out of it, weird lines that make no sense". That's great. ONLY ONE OF THOSE GRAPHICS APPEARS ON THE APPLE KEYBOARD!! So after you go "Okay, Command and... what?!", you have to go Google it to figure out that it's supposed to be "Command, Alt/Option, Escape". God dammit Apple, either put those graphics on the keys they represent like you did with Command, or just use words! Your operating system should not have cunting hieroglyphics in it!! And at least for me, I needed to Command Option Escape way more on Mac to close unresponsive applications than I've ever needed to CTRL ALT DEL/CTRL SHIFT ESC to get to Task Manager on Windows, and I used Mac for 2 years VS probably 20-25 on Windows? So why Apple hides the shortcut keys behind symbols they don't define just completely baffles me! And people call Mac OS the more easy to use, easy to understand OS for computer illiterate people! THE FUCK, MAN?! Also it wasn't until recently that you could rename a file or folder in the right click menu on Mac. WTF were they thinking not having that for so long?! *AND WHY DOESN'T THE CLOSE PROGRAM X BUTTON CLOSE THE GODDAMN PROGRAM LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO?!* But to be fair, I will give credit to Mac for having "print to PDF" baked right in. Before Windows 10, you needed a third party program for that on Windows.
I made the switch many years ago, and some of those learning curves are what really kept me from enjoying a mac because I was constantly jumping in boot camp and using windows because it's so familiar, however like you said in part 2 and 3 it's the OS that many people are buying into, not the hardware. It seems you enjoyed part of the experience Linus with the OS and it's "core" apps but chose not to mention how security like sandboxing, unix architecture and etc are the reasons people don't realize ultimately but are the main drivers for people choosing to move. They're also buying to ease of use and repair when engaging for support and repair through Apple phone support and the Retail Stores, for people that are novice or ignorant of trying to do it on their own as least. Most people that own any form of technology typically need to buy a service warranty separate from the company that produce it to service it and/or mail it off to a repair center and see it back in 2-4 weeks. I hope you do a part 4 or 5 focused on these which ultimately are the reason you and many other choose to buy a Mac or other Apple tech. Linus I enjoy all your other videos tremendously, however this video "Part" series was a bit underwhelming and didn't really sink in to the reason you chose to start featuring macs into these videos. I'm currently looking at switching from Synology NAS to a unRAID system and your tutorial has been the most clear-cut of the setup process. Thank you Linus.
NONE of his complaints were legit. He just doesnt know how to do most of them. Btw if you use the trackpad instead of the mouse you get to make A LOT of gestures shortcut with your fingers that you wont be able to do with just the mouse. And you CLEARLY dont know the hotkeys to most of your complaints.
+PowerHouse_ PR I got through your first sentence and I already knew you were wrong. Why? Because many of his complaints _were_ legitimate. For example; not having a "Cut" command (or "Move" command in Mac's Finder) in the right-click menu. That's legitimate, especially for someone coming from Windows. I can Cut (Move) files or entire folders without ever even touching my keyboard in a grand total of *_five clicks_*: Right-click the item, left-click cut, click target window, right-click, left-click to paste. Yes, you _can_ use keyboard shortcuts in Mac, but you can also use them in Windows. That's not the point. Or the complaint about having icon sizes being _system wide_ in Finder. That's a legitimate complaint coming from a Window's user, where you can change the icon sizes for _each and every folder_, so your documents folder can have small icons to quickly scroll through and find what you want or large icons for folders with pictures so you can easily thumb through your pictures for the one you want. That alone is just two of many of the complaints he had that were legitimate, but I get the distinct impression you're going to flagrantly dismiss my arguments just like you did with Linus'. Don't forget that this review was very much so _opinion-based_ and you *_cannot_* tell someone that their opinion is wrong just because it differs from _your_ opinion. Honestly, you shouldn't have to change for your OS. Your OS should adapt to _you_. You shouldn't have to rely on proprietary peripherals to get full function out of your computer.
I stopped reading your comment after you started complaining about file icon sizes. Yes...you can easily change the icon size in each and every folder. Wow, what technology. Right click....show view options...done.
Andres Cadenza Garza V Using default settings even in that menu will change it system-wide. You have to specifically tell your Mac to do it in just the one folder.
Dude. Many of your ctiticisms are just bevause there are things you dont know yet. Of course you wont know everything about a new OS to make you feel comfy with it in just a month or two. Example - your criticism of finder - totally unfounded - you can enable the right click menu and use copy and paste just like in windows. Also you can enable the path bar that will show you exactly where you are in finder. You can search your files in finder and can choose to search just the folder you are in or the entire mac. The list goes on and on. Please do some more research and remake your video as i think you made it prematurely. Even some of your keyboard shortcut ctitcisms are not valid. Look at the top keys and icons on the top of your genuine apple keyboards and you will find the answers to your crits The first month or two switching from one system to another is always a challenge and seemingly half of your criticisms are purely because of that.
+Terence Rhoda Yeah, I know. For half of his complaints I kept looking at my keyboard and doing whatever he said was not possible. I felt kinda sad that he got angry at the OS for not understanding.
+Legalas Elf If you prefer to stay misinformed and uneducated about the subject, then please be my guest and call me names and throw personal insults for the lack of a constructive argument that makes any sort of sense. LoL. Whatever turns you on.
Terence Rhoda dude's got a family and a job, it's not his responsibility to satisfy you because of your feelings are hurt and you got nothing else to do but asking for video remake. You are mac fanboy? go watch mac fanboy video bloggers who only make positive reviews about apple products, theres plenty of them. You can actually search for only positive reviews to stay safe in your little comfort zone/imaginary world.
+Legalas Elf - like i said. Throwing personal insults and name calling to someone you clearly don';t even know seems to be all you got. . and you are talking about having nothing to do . LoL. you make me laugh. No more comments from me to you. Your lame arguments are not worth further of my time. So have a ball , give it your best shot.
As a long time mac user, Linus's actually brought up some good points on things that i have seem to forgot about or just accepted when it comes to using a mac. Thanks for keeping a level head.
From a guy who's using both i can say that that was a nice, good and honest review. Thanks! No hating and bunch of stupid things like the most ppl do. :)
copy: command - c paste: command - v MOVE: first copy, and then go to the directory you desire and command - option - v. Or just hold down shift and drag. up directory: command - up arrow down directory: vise versa I only moved to mac for a few months, and already all of these are making so much sense. Please don't excuse your hatred for the unknown for lacking functionalities
I mean, drives show up on their own on the desktop when you plug them in, and not to mention the top bar has the go function AND also in Finder is multi tabs.The copy paste? It's there, so I don't know what you're talking about with that not being there. Also, on a Mac keyboard Command is RIGHT next to Space also right under C, V and X. Finally you can change the view of files in Finder to either Cover Flow, Columns, Lists, and Icons not just a list how you had it.
And if you really need to click to cut you can click on the file and in the top bar click on the edit tab and click cut. Not that hard. And if that's too hard for you click on the item and click on the help tab and type cut. It'll make a magical bubble showing exactly where it is appear.
One thing that annoys me about Mac is not being able to install apps from the App Store to a different drive. Unlike windows they have to go on my operating system drive which in my case is a small ssd. For Logic Pro the 50gb of extra content HAS TO be installed on the ssd in the application support folder which completely fills up the ssd.
Drag them to what ever drive you want after they're done downloading. It's silly you can't choose where they download though. Although even Steam only recently started allowing that as well.
First macOS review that expresses the many concerns I had when experimenting with osX. I find the finder/explorer abstractions in windows and macos both more confusing that lookiing at the drive hierarchy
Maybe because we are so used to Windows/Linux way to cut and paste, we find the OS X way,... a little difficult. Understandable, because they have different thinking. In Windows/Linux, we have to decide to copy/cut files or folders FIRST, before we can copy/move them to other location. Whereas in OS X, just copy the files or folders and decide to copy/move them LATER in other location. Each has their own advantages, I guess. But personally, I like the OS X way.
This video should have been titled: UA-camr with massive Windows user fan base attempts (unsuccessfully) to review a Mac. I personally use Windows 10 and OS X daily and I'm still much quicker on a Mac. Windows has far more annoying traits IMO.
+Richard Dale dude he is IT specialist and he struggled to use mac because of lack of functionality.Imagine what will feel a person who is not into IT. Mac is shit get over it
+Richard Dale PCs are just as good for creative work too. There's literally no difference between what computers can do except for the software that they get. If both Mac and PC had access to exactly the same library of software and had _proper_ compatibility for games on Mac, then they'd both run equally well.
Finder has almost anything at your finger tips (using keyboard) : - to go to the up folder just do [CMD+up arrow] - you can also add a "path" icon to the tool bar of any finder window, just personalize it (right click on the tools bar)
The majority of the points you made were fair. The inability to cut/paste inside Finder still annoys the living out of me to this day, and using scroll wheels are absolutely hideous. But I think you really didn't spend enough time exploring the little nooks and crannies of OS X. Pretty much every complaint you made about Finder is fixable various different settings (thumbnail view, system wide/folder specific sorting), and image exporting is much easier (drag n drop) inside the more basic Image Capture than the horrendously bad iPhoto app, and Apple have promised a 'best of both worlds' photo application coming soon that blends the best of Image Capture, iPhoto and Aperture in to one application. Like Windows, you can't expect it do everything for you out of the box.
That comment is fair enough. THis is the same logic I use for the winners of " waaaa..iHate Win8 because..metro...waaa" Then I remind them of " classic start from ninite.com" Problem is now solved, and then they realize " why did I complain about such an EASY to resolve problem again?"
TalesOfWar some people want to move files while deleting the original file that's why they cut and paste. Btw if you still don't seem to understand Im going to take you as a troll or a fan boy and wont respond back unless you bring up a good point.
TalesOfWar Sean Kim Just chiming in here - TalesOfWar is right. CMD+C then CMD+V copies and pastes the item. CMD+C then ALT+CMD+V moves the item. I never knew this shortcut existed. Thanks for letting me know!
im a mac user and have been for several years and this is my personal, number one argument. windows os design hasn't changed much since the early 2000's. apples os looks beautiful. it makes the whole user experience better. with a clear rounded applications dock, simple squares and circles for icons that have just the right amount of color and even shading to keep it from being too simple, beautiful but simple animations for opening and closing applications, and short sounds to match users actions such as throwing something away and emptying your trash, though you can turn this off. but windows is really annoying. the last time i owned a windows based pc was in 2005 and every time i go to best buy and try out new ones there's really no difference. there's a million sub menus, icons are extremely dated and what is new is just hard to look at. it just vomits squares and bright, obnoxious colors like it was designed in ms paint by a 7yr old. the last time i really used a pc i used it for nearly 20 minutes and could barely navigate from the start menu to that windows 5 looking menu, or is it like an os inside of an os? i still don't understand what they were thinking when they designed that yes macs aren't really customizable hardware wise or can be pushed as far as some factory made pc's, but they aren't meant to be. macs are just luxury computers. up until the early 90's they were meant for graphic design and editing but thats mostly changed and i hate that apple for the past couple years has been advertising them as work computers. non macs have the advantage as far as customizability goes, but apple really was doing great until around 2012 with keeping things simple for the everyday person to watch videos, study and interact with others online
+Wiikendz i recently used a friends windows tablet and i don't understand what you mean. everything i said is right and i still don't like it. unfortunately i have to have something that runs windows for school soon but i think I'm just gonna use my macbook air since it doesn't have to be op
Thank your your honesty! I haven't had a windows in like eiight years, so I've been tempted to switch back due to the prices. Would be awesome if you had a mac user doing what you just did. Keep being awesome!
@@goncalo33 Well I'm still using the mac but it is so incompatible wuth the outside world that I'm planning to. Apple soldering components stuck is harming resale value so it's harder to ger money for the next one.
Id like to really see your thoguhts of MAC OS now after you've actually LEARNED how to do all the things you complained about haha it's just like anything you're not fully use to yet... Once you get use to it and master it, then it's a piece of cake!! lol
Before I was a "PC masterrace/Mac is overpriced peace of shit" kind a guy. I built 4 custom PC all from scratch and I used to custom compile Windows version(to make a lightweight Windows for gaming), so I was kind of a hardcore PC user. I had an iPhone 4 for a while, which I really loved. Then I finally got a Macbook Pro because I was in USA and planned to sell it when I came back home. But I ended up keeping it. First I ran Windows on Bootcamp because I just loved Windows and at the time I thought MacOS was confusing to use. When Windows 8 came out I switched to Mac because I thought it was horrible the way Microsoft was heading. Now I love MacOS and I can never switch back. There was a while when my macbook got ruined because I had the graphics fault, which Apple had made a replacement program for. For a few months I ran Windows on my laptop and stationary. I then switched back to Mac when i got the Macbook running again and now I'm 10x more productive than before(again). It's just an operating system to love. You don't have to worry about temperatures, adjusting BIOS settings, worry about Windows crashing and loosing everything, and the apps for Mac is soo incredibly more innovative than on Windows. Windows apps are barely changing and most apps are just as basic as they were in Windows XP. With a button on the menu bar im suddenly extending my desktop to my TV, with a button on the menu bar im suddenly streaming all my audio/music to my speakers, one button and im sharing internet connection with my iphone, all built in MacOS functions. There are several apps for all social apps like whatsapp, facebook messenger and so much more(I have them running on the menu bar, just a click away). The apps are infinitely better on Mac.
You just can't use it. Wait. I'm not saying it's better than Windows in everything, because both have pros and cons. But it can be used way better than you showed
I'm still using my late 2010 21.5" iMac... it's still pretty good for me with a Windows 8.1 VM and Yosemite. I sold my magic mouse a while ago, I hated it. I use two bluetooth keyboards, the one they gave me and a Dell y-raq-del2 keyboard and a USB gaming mouse for playing any games, mainly League of Legends which doesn't use too much computing power. I dual monitor with a 1080p TV/Monitor. Runs all the Adobe programs well, Photoshop, Flash, the whole suite. I've had it for almost 6 Years and I've loved it.
Loooong time Windows user here. I switched to MAC and like it much better. Just wish I had switched earlier. One thing I didn't like too much was Finder. Purchased Path Finder and now I've found harmony with File Management on OS X.
faissialoo DirectX would have to be rewritten to support it, but it would help to get DirectX based games to other OSes. Since Linux is an Open Source clone of Unix, it wouldn't take much effort to make DirectX compatible with it. Then SteamOS and other Linux distros could play most PC games. Although I doubt Microsoft would give up their advantage in the gaming industry. Since Linux is closely related to Unix, all you have to do is find a Linux distro that resembles Windows in UI and functionality. Zorin is a Linux distro that imitates Windows quite well. But if you want more customizability, go with a KDE based distro. Fedora and Kubuntu both come with KDE. KDE actually had multiple desktops since version 1.0 back in 1998. KDE is similar enough to Windows that the UI change won't be as jarring as other desktop environments, aside from Zorin, if you are really used to Windows. If you want to use an OS that's Unix based instead of Linux based, you can use FreeBSD with KDE. FreeBSD and BSD are Unix based. BSD is what OS X is based off of.
Its Linus(techtips) and if he wasn't willing to tryout new things like this I would have unsubscribe along time ago. I for one like it when he shows us new stuff hell if he never did new stuff and just stuck with pc unboxing I never would have thought of even considering building my own PC, and still would be stuck on my ps3 and prebuilt Dell.
He was just pointing the cons of OSX, it's not a subjective review, everything he showed us was backed with an example. If you are a light OSX user, these kind of things probably wouldn't bother you anyways.
At 5:40 mark, you say finder is a mess because of the arrangement, and I agree IF you decide to see ALL your files in list mode! If you look on top ( above the "documents" title), you have 4 options, see everything with just icons, or list mode (the one you looking at in this video), Columns ( with this, you can see all your files with their roots, folder by folder), or Cover mode (more for music albums or pictures maybe).
so here is my thoughts: I study computer science, I use windows 8.1 Lenovo y500 laptop and here is the deal : when coding in c / c++ windows makes me want to rip my hair out, the memory management and debugging is just terrible, so when I code c / c++ I work in virtual linux, I cannot just use linux because it is missing the programs I daily use. What I miss the most in windows is sensible commandline shell (preferably bash ofc). Windows .bat files are a fucking joke, they are terrible for any slightly more complex scripts. Friend bought MBP and he let me use it for a bit and the only thing I can say about it is that everything coding related on it just straight up works well. Combined with the battery life and size/weight it is amazing for IT student. But because of all the priprietary stuff and apple being apple and anything they do is non hackable I do not want to switch ... I see why people would though.
If you somewhere mismanage memory in some weird way windows just sucks it out of its ass wich leads to random behavior instead of crash I dont know about c++, I tried to do c in visual and it was terrible experience imo.
Yup, there's a reason developers and software engineers prefer Macs. There was a recent survey in a Harvard compsci course, and the results were 66% of the students taking that course used Macs, 20% used Linux, and the rest used Windows. These are your future industry leaders.
John Koo Well I know that macs are used because of their great portability. Anyways this is quite biased since college students are most likely going to buy a mac. At least I think I am right
As an individual who can pick up technology and get used to using it very easily I've found OS X to be the most difficult and confusing thing to interact with. It's elegant in appearance, sure. It completely lacks elegance in utility however.
You have what I call OS laziness, not saying it to be an ass whole, but you have to configure Mac to operate how you want it to operate. You can't expect it to do everything for you, like Windows.
Windows 7 Gamer
I disagree, I mainly use Linux with 7 on the side. I always do registry edits and fiddle with the Android OS on my phone as well. The fact of the matter is that Linux for example is meant to be simple and easy to bend to your will. That's why man people customize it their way. It's a clean canvas. With OS X I find that it's not only inelegant but is also a very messy canvas.
Same here! Chrome OS, Ubuntu, other random builds of Linux, Windows, all simple. Put me in front of a mac and I can't figure out basic things. Like the copy and paste or running a file from the desktop or virtual PC or whatever it is. But the worst thing is finder. It's awful and incredibly unintuitive.
Rashik30 I can't disagree with that, completely true.
***** I use a MacBook Air solely for study, and its multitasking is just unmatched for me, incredibly fluid and easy to use. I do agree some aspects aren't very intuitive, but this is all subjective.
Do It again Linus, Switch in 2020! Lets see you drive a 16" for a month in quarantine!
About those Finder complaints: (1) Sorting is NOT system wide. For each window you can enter cmd+"j" and choose how you want to sort the items in that particular window, without altering others. (2) I don't know what he means by "internal storage gets all piled together." There is a specific hierarchy, he probably hasn't understood it yet. (3) The force-refresh thing is true, but if it's taking long to refresh you can always close and reopen the window, or even enter cmd+opt+esc and relaunch finder. (4) There are two thumbnail sizes ONLY when you view items as a list. Enter cmd+1 to see them as icons, and you can continuously adjust the item size in that same menu (cmd+"j"). And that is NOT system wide. (5) The thing about cut-paste is true, but what he doesn't seem to understand is that keyboard shortcuts are not a nuisance, they are THE WAY to use a Mac. (6) Up-directory is cmd+uparrow.
Quite true. He should have googled mac keyboard shortcuts. Ironically, windows users used to say Mac users have to use the mouse and windows is more powerful because I can do things more quickly with the keyboard. Now the claim is reversed. Irony at its best.
Regarding some of your points:
Point (2) Agreed, though the mac used to be more clear. I'm surprised he didn't click on his machine name in the Devices list and see pretty much the same things as the windows file system.
Point (3) True. The refresh thing is annoying. But to restart the finder, thats a pretty drastic solution for refreshing.
Point(5) Apple added this but in an odd way. You copy as normal then instead of Command V you do Command Option V to do the move. Its odd but present.
To cut my response short. No
#rekt ?
This comment is dumb. Just no.
So can you navigate the whole system without a mouse? Since _everything_ must be keyboard based.
There is a question for me right now... Why you are not a Apple guy but you still using a profile picture which is Jobs style?
Leonard Li Winchester Because he admires Jobs? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were friends btw. They were even talking to each other when Steve was dying (RIP)
djlobb WOW I do know they are friends, but it doesn't mean they like each other, right?
Leonard Li Winchester Why would they phone each other if they didn't like each other? They never talked about either ones company in the later days either.
djlobb I am just kidding... What I want to say is two people hate each other can also be good friends.
Leonard Li Winchester WTF..... if people hate each other then how can they be Friends
What makes a mac sound even worse is you have to buy apps just to do simple things that should already be there. Imagine that everyone on windows had to pay $14 just to scroll with the middle mouse button?
TalesOfWar
I use that way of scrolling down, still should be something that's there.
TalesOfWar Isnt this just the clicking the mouse wheel feature on windows?
TalesOfWar That should absolutely already be there. I use it a ton when wanting to scroll quickly up or down to the top or bottom of a page and know it will be faster than going over to the scroll bar.
TalesOfWar What if I wanted to gaze through comments like a credit reel at a slow pace?
TalesOfWar It is though, for a youtube content creator wanting to go through the comments, scrolling becomes irritating after several hundred comments.
I purchased an 11" Macbook air off craigslist to try out the , " Mac Experience," and I was super impressed! I then sold it to purchase a Macbook 15" Retina and man I cannot be more happy...I'll never go back to windows for productivity. I do have a gaming rig that I run Windows 8.1 on, but even then I'm considering loading linux on it now that they have STEAM. Apple products seems to work flawlessly together and I seem to enjoy the experience all the time. I just wish they weren't so damn expensive...5k imac, I got my eye on you!
I wouldn't switch fully over to linux yet. There are games supported on linux but not very many right now.
If I were you I'd keep Windows on the "gaming rig", put GNU/Linux on the MacBook, and use Steam in-home streaming to play any unsupported games.
tacoguy1111 Yeah, only like 600.
Steven Davidson compared to millions on windows...
givemeajackson Millions on Windows? I nor any of my friends, have gotten any virus in the last 5-6 years. Microsoft seems to be doing something right to be keeping them out. According to some very skilled hackers, OS X is easier to hack.
4:24. Wow, I was wrong with how much UA-camrs get paid. Without sponsors, this channel wouldn't exist at all!
they probably earn much more now.. this was a year ago.. and remember how many videos a month they upload..
+Wiikendz I'm sure they make thousands, linus doesn't pay his employees in cookies, but I'm sure the profit that linus gets to keep is slim
+Whippy They also get more income then just UA-cam, think about all of their shirts and branded products.
+Whippy also that is only one of his channels... TechQuickie is smaller than LinusTechTips.
+Whippy Linus also runs a full time business do not forget!!!
So much has changed in the last 7 years of Mac, I’d say at least half of Linus’s complaints have been completely resolved (or had simple solutions at the time that he wasn’t aware of). Especially with Finder.
Still though, Finder sucks in comparison to File Explorer. Finder works for basic stuff, but the convenience in Windows of being able to type exact directories, or having default Music, Video, and Picture folders is way better than finder. Gallery also being in File Explorer is way more convenient than going to a separate app to view all of your pictures. Also IMO, File Explorer looks way better.
@@MicahIsBatman2 I much prefer Finder. You can do all of that stuff and much more.
1. You can go to an exact directory using the "go to folder" option, or shift+cmd+G.
2. Finder has default music, video and picture folders.
3. You can look through your photos in finder easily enough using several different options, none of which are exactly the same as on Windows, but is more flexible.
4. appearance is an odd thing to bring up when it comes to a file manager, but I personally prefer the minimalism of Finder over all the clutter in the side and top bar of Windows Explorer. I will say that Windows 11 makes it (and everything) look a *lot* better than it used to though.
Most of your OS complaints are clearly a result of unfamiliarity with how things work. I suggest you learn your way around the interface more before complaining.
Leonardo Daniels The entertainment and music industry runs on Macs, most professionals use Macs. You clearly don't know shit.
He used it for a month...I'm pretty sure that's an adequate amount of time to get familiar with an interface.
Leonardo Daniels A Mac is a different experience to Windows, it takes a while to learn the ins and outs. Also, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you so rude? He wasn't being rude to you!
Thats the problem no one whats to learn how to us things now a days u just wanna hop on a us it windows 7 for example I have only 3 things in my desktop chrome my security and files simple I know how to right click and left click (I have problems with that on mac)
Leonardo Daniels You're pathetic if you think people can't work on Macs just like they could on a Windows machine. I make a living using a Mac, but I could do the same with a PC, but wouldn't dare switch back. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that I'm more intelligent than you are. Enjoy being narrow minded.
Couldn't agree more about finder.
Everything he said was objectively true. It's the biggest thing holding the OS back, in my opinion (other than the fact that I am a control freak, and Apple products are anathema to control freaks).
TomatoBreadOrgasm If it's your opinion, then it cannot be objectively true.
Dialectical Materialism I know. It was deliberate exaggeration. I was just being cheeky.
Is there a setting where you can turn on auto snap in folders. Like when you drag and drop files into one. I just remember they just used to be placed exactly where you dropped them and it would all end up one massive mess. Man it used to drive my OCD nuts...
There is one thing which I absolutely love about finder, and that is the column based view.
But otherwise, they somehow managed to ruin what was a pretty solid file manager going from 10.6 onwards.
There is an up directory. You right click on the folder name at the top of the finder window. It lists a trail all the way back to the hard drive.
This.
Could've just placed an applications folder on the dock instead...
+adil m Not only that, but there are many things he missed. I guess he needs more time...
Still, Apple sucks for changing things that were really good. We never needed launchpad, using the Apps folders is still the best.
Also Exposé worked better than Mission Control, among other little things... even some gestures were better and more natura on Snow Leopard than they were after.
Of course, I appreciate the new stuff, the new Finder is much better than the old one, etc, etc...
Vendetta V Or you can drag and drop it holding CMD and it'll move too
Vendetta V What are you on about and why are you replying to me?
+Vendetta V What's with this fucking UA-cam glitch that when you edit comments the apostrphes change to '. It's been around so much that it's not even a glitch anymore.
+Vendetta V I want to say it has to do with posting with the mobile app and then editing in a web browser afterwards, but I can't really confirm that.
"Linus Switches to Linux"
Agreed. Everyone thumbs up this comment so LMG team can see and convince Linus to finally give a reasonable version of Linux an honest try. He has used Windows, he tried Crapple. Now is the TIIIIME for OPen source baby!! \m/
I would love to see Linus try out Linux. Specifically Ubuntu, as that one is the most complete out of the box (from what I've used anyways; I'm sure there's others which are just as good out of the box though).
Zukaro Travon
NO NO NO Linux Mint is way better than ubuntu. Don't you even talk about ubuntu I hate the ui.
Sean Kim
There's nothing wrong with Unity. :v You use whatever works for you. Unity works well for me. And the great thing about Linux is you can turn it into whatever you want.
Zukaro Travon
All that is true and I wont argue, but I feel like Linux Mint would be better for Linus's audience. (mostly windows users)
I'd like to see you do an "I switched to Linux" Would be interesting.
That is a hard switch if you have never had past experience with any of the distributions before. It is harder to configure at the start, but once you do, it is in my opinion the best OS stream out there. Just not for gaming, Windows has that on ever OS.
Windows 7 Gamer
Linux Mint and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS are both extremely easy to use. Most likely easier to swap to those from winxp than to windows 8.1.
Simon Griffin There are people who just can't make the adjust to a Linux Distro, I still have a hard time with it on some aspects.
SeaJay
I think a " When i switched to Linux " Fedora would have to get Red Hat's approval and/or try for a Red Hat sponsership as it would be cool be Red Hat is picky about what they do and do not allow into their enviroment. So if Linus could attract them then that would be like super awesome ... i doubt he would get a free copy of Red Hat Linux but of Fedora Gnome 3 for it that would be cool.
If he actually does do a Linux thing i think it will be more of Ubuntu though um probably the Lubuntu or Xubuntu versions not straight out Ubuntu as Ubuntu is very clunky and bloated while Lubuntu and Xubuntu are not as much bloated. To that Lunbuntu and Xubuntu are fairly easy to pick up and use with a almost entirely GUI based interface with only a few exceptions that the avg user wont use like setting a static IP address and setting up a server and stuff like that are almost entirely in terminal but the avg user part like firefox and LibreOffice is preinstalled and ready to go out of the box um fresh install as Cronical does not have a box for their distros.
Something like that is coming so if you're still interested, stay tuned.
What I do love about OS X is how all installed programs are installed within one folder called Applications. No not shortcuts, the programs them selfs without the need to go into Program Files and look for the install directory to find a specific .exe I'm looking for. Without having to make a folder filled with shortcuts, scrolling through "all apps" on the start menu or filling up the desktop with shortcuts.
Haven't had a Mac in a while, but they do have their handy features as well. Stuff that are annoyances on Windows might not be on Mac and viseversa basically.
Every OS X user will tell you never to get a magic mouse and get a magic trackpad instead.
this
Magic mouse is god
I have both... I use both for different ocasions. I love both... oh and yes I like mac and windows and use both for different jobs
You have obviously never used a Mac.
You have that choice also on a Mac
3000 dollars jesus you could buy three monitors gtx 980 2 way sli i7 4790k 1tb ssd and have money left if you went with windows
Yeap, for 3 grand I can almost build a 5960x+ 8GB vram gtx 980TI+ 64GB ddr4 3000mhz ram+ 1TB samsung 850 pro ssd build
TalesOfWar you could get 3 4k monitors if you wanted
TalesOfWar
And yet, this Apple 5K computer has a color gamut that isn't up to professional standards, where as that Dell 5K monitor does have a professional color gamut. Lets not compare a gaming grade display to a professional tool
not everyone wants to build their own pc...
Johnny Ceja
Or knows how to.
iMacs are meant to be used with Apple keyboards. For example, with an apple keyboard, f3 is used to access Mission Control. It is the same thing with brightness, it's on the Mac keyboard. I don't think you can configure a keyboard other than Apple's own to do things like that on Macs, I've tried with my G710+ on my Macbook. I had no luck. This just goes to show how Apple is stubborn with third party compatibility. I love many of Apple's products, but things like this make me not like post-Wozniak Apple as a company.
By the way, I am not a Windows hater, I use a PC myself for my computer. Just wanted to say that before someone goes on a rant about how PC is better than Mac...
Duh you can, but it doesn't have the labels on the keys.
maxqia I tried, maybe I did something wrong XD
Duvangrgata B. Oh sorry, just tried it, and it didn't work.
Go find a mechanical apple keyboard
taskbar... excuse me, dock.
explorer... excuse me, finder.
requires a $14 app. and i'll be damned if i buy that instead of a dozen chocolate bars
+CasualMods The Dock is not a full/proper Taskbar it's more akin to having shortcuts on your desktop in Windows, I do agree with finder = explorer!
he could probably have changed a system setting to change the scrolling if he had googled it. The setting is not available in a preference pane, so he would have had to use Terminal, but whatever.
Dude, I'm a Mac user - I use it quite a bit and bought my first one in 2009. The transition and change was an Epic mind-job and I couldn't agree more with EVERYTHING you've mentioned in this video. Found myself laughing out loud at the little annoyances I went through. Great job on pointing them out. The prices are high, some things aren't very intuitive and for a power user, it's even more annoying. I could share a list of other annoying things you've missed - but I might take up too much space in this comment. However, I'm the kind of techie that fully invests in the competition and I fell in love with just a few things that came from the iOS world that I can't have on Windows and for that reason, I've been following their incremental updates over the years and given them a chance. From being a die hard (and Certified) support specialist and expert on Windows - I'm still finding it weird that I'm still using a Mac at home (and taking it to work). Stranger things have happened. By the way, 1 month isn't enough to migrate. After 7 years, I only learnt about how to do a few more common Windows tasks this year. I also advise all my friends and colleagues who naturally want to copy what I'm doing to please be mindful that the shift and switch can be a painful one if unprepared. Strangely enough, many of them still did and they've stuck with it - can't explain it...
Isn't installing a font also easy? Just open the file and click on install. Or am i wrong?
EDIT: I meant on windows
yeah. maybe it's a win8 thing?
Yep. If it's a professional font, download or buy it, open it, click install, you now have it computer wide.
I've gotten a ton of fonts for Photoshop and After Effects, it's all the same process and goes to your programs/system universally.
I don't know why Linus didn't know this. The functionality is there on win7 as well..
Yeah, you can also right click the file and select Install
***** Not true lad. On Windows 7/8 - you click on the download folder, double-click the font, click "Install," on the upper right hand corner and it installs in seconds.
Or you could just open the download folder, right-click the actual font file and click on "Install" without even opening the file.
Being a Mac person, I can understand your frustrations with certain features. However, most of this is just not using the system to your liking. There are many options for helping your workflow in Finder that you may not have explored. I will not argue that the user experience is different, but Windows people make it seem difficult. Shortcut keys are your life in many applications, and Mac OS X is no different. Learn them and use both of your hands you uni-plegics. The mouse isn't for everyone, but I for one love the scroll action and the ability to use gestures to improve workflow. I'm not sure why you had issues with scroll speed, as it only moves as fast as you do and does allow flicks to scroll quickly like a cellphone.
The Mac is not for everyone, but I feel they have done more right and have better features than a Windows OS experience. However, it's all subjective and to each their own.
Im sorry man but that mouse is a god damn joke. I had to use it at school and I HATED every second of it. As a 3d modeller and concept artist...its not useful AT ALL...
Windows just work. It is ready out of the box for most of the users.
Mac and linux lack on the convenience. That is the key to windows sucess
1300l Thats funny. Really funny.
Good luck without Drivers..
sveyen
Yea so hard to get drivers on Windows, in fact pre-built pcs come with it installed
argh im a magic human with telepathic abilities..
No on most windows "pre build" for example laptops they aren't
and lets see you got a nice new printer there already downloaded you're drivers?
On my os x driven laptop they are already there. :p
iSwitched to Mac
Part 1: Wow! iMac is cool
Part 2: Oh! let me rethink
Part 3: No!! don't buy one
Actually, iMacs, and IOS devices are specified for a specific purpose. Video Editing, Photoshop, and things of that nature. So, to you they may seem useless, but to people that actually use them for that purpose, and use it well, are very useful. Therefore, your comment is invalid.
Crispy Batman Yeah, I see your point now. I already knew they were overpriced and what not but I do see your point.
Yeta s many videos show. A 10000 dollar configuration with Mac Pro cant stand up at all with a 9700$ custom PC. Apple get your shit together and update stuff
Crispy Batman afte 3 years. No excuses, and theyre still gonna be underpowered as shit.
Crispy Batman No. An upgradeable pc will always be better beacause Apple is limited by partnerships and very few bands got the moeny to live up to Apple's requests and BS. Laptops maybe but a computer isnt supposed to last a year
the trackpad brings it to life
I've never ever used an apple product (like seriously, ever), and from what I've seen in this video it looks like some sort of alien technology. Like seriously, you can't just copy and paste files, refresh folders, and file sorting is system-wide? Stupid sht like that makes me wonder why do people actually use these, unless they have to?
Local Disk (C:) ♥
You also cannot use NTFS file system..You have to buy an app to edit stuff on an external hdd that is NTFS lol...what a joke.
***** Doesnt work. I had a hackintosh and I had to get this one program online (by questionable means since it was $60)... Also Im on Yosemite...So... Nope.... Read the comments next time...
Derrick Davis
Do you have to buy everything on macs?
unless you can find it by....other means.... *Cough* *Cough*...
While I do understand the sentiment that Macs are overpriced for their performance, people don't seem to understand that Macs aren't designed for hardcore gamers (which is what this youtube channel is mostly targeting). The Mac is designed as a workstation desktop for graphics/web designers and other artists. OSX is an experience you have to try for yourself to understand.
The "gaming PCs are cheaper" argument is like saying "why own a sports car when I can ride a train?" Sure the train can get you from point A to point B more cheaply, but you don't buy a sports car to get there for less money. You buy a sports car for the experience of owning a sports car!
-PC gamer and Macbook owner
But you can spend the money saved on better hardware/additional displays/a wacom tablet.
Ninja2337 But if you are doing doing graphics design as a professional, the cost of the hardware is far less important. If you do this for a living, owning a Mac is an investment, not just a luxury.
LimitedWard
(Don't take this as a personal attack I have just gotten a bit angry with seeing this.)
I really hate people who use this as an "This is why you buy mac"
I'm a graphic designer. I also do art for a bit of spare money on various sites.
Mac is no different than windows. AT ALL, hell I find Windows a whole lot easier. And saying it's for lifestyle is an even worse statement. you are the people that brainwash artists into spending assloads of money on crappy hardware and dumb software.
All my artists friends except a select few use mac.
And every day I hear about how it's broke and they have to buy a whole new one or where they have to send it for repairs, or some other crap. I build computers for people and when they tell me this.. I literally try to convince them they should buy a PC and if they must I can install MacOS on it. Yeah, it's a sports car, one that you have to buy a new one every 5 months.
It's god, damn ridicules.
I actually did get one of my artist friends to move to PC AND THEY FUCKING LOVE IT.
and it hasn't broke in the last 3 years they have had it. And even if it did I would fix it for FREE, because with PC's it's EASY, and CHEAPER if needing replacements.
So no. Macs are for people that want to look "Edgy" like a guy that buys a huge truck to compensate for his small offerings.
But hey, I'm not knocking you for liking it. just stop lieing to others.
Give them a chance to experience both and let them decide.
Don't Treat either of them as "GOD" Among OS.
buying that particular imac for graphic design would make more sense if it had a touch screen and came with an arm so that you could move it all around to draw on.
Otherwise what good is the optimized software if you could get better overall hardware.
Kaede Ishimora I'm not sure how your friends are treating their Macs that they are breaking down so often. I've had my Macbook Pro since 2009, and although it has gotten slower (as would any 6-year-old computer) it has never broken on me. My mother also owns a Mac (an older model of the one in this video), which she's had for about the same amount of time.
Last year I decided to build my own gaming PC, and let me tell you, I never had so many computer problems in my entire life. In the past year, I've had at least a dozen crashes (which I just recently discovered was due to an out-of-date BIOS). In other words, my PC experience has been far more choppy than my Mac experience.
In terms of ease of use, I think it's all a combination of preference and what you are used to. I grew up using both systems, and I've become adept at using both OSs, but the majority of my family definitely prefers OSX (the exception being my father who has exclusively used Windows).
Hybrid user here, a configured Magic Trackpad does wonders. No push clicking needed, lots of gestures. I use one on a PC too, the Mac's mouse is not fun.
It was unprofessional for this video to be published without actually knowing how to use OS X. Defeats the purpose of this channel.
Something Linus forgot to mention. That "5k" panel is a 2560x1440 EFFECTIVELY. Paying 2500USD for a computer that needs upgrades out the bat for people that not only uses a computer for browsing Facebook is RIDICULOUS. I can build a X99 build with freaking 12 cores and DDR4 with blazing fast throughput with that kind of cash. People that buys MAC for serious work are just idiots.
TalesOfWar Yes, people in Hollywood are, for the most part, idiots.
TalesOfWar Most are idiots, you could build, hell even buy a pre-built Windows PC that is better and cheaper than shit Macs.
TalesOfWar No shit, because a Xeon is miles better than a Mac. The i7 processors are a huge deal better than Macs too. You could find a $1500 pre-built i7 PC and use the other $1500 for 2 4K monitors and peripherals.
TalesOfWar This argument doen' t make much sense.
Sorry to jump in, but in large work environments contracts are made to get the best offer with the least expense. No cto/ceo/cfo or whoever would pay more for the same performance/quality and he would never pay full price. Sometimes, not to say often, the machines are leased, with all the benefits of the case.
On the other side, we mortals have to pay big bucks so a custom PC/workstation is the way to go. And if one is not able to put it together he can go to a workshop and get it assembled for 50/100 euros.
TalesOfWar
Why yes, of course, that' s why i wrote "on the other side" ;)
It' us with no chance to get leasing and service contracts. Us, who have to pay retail prices; and that matters.
I see so many windows fanboys in the commentsection... Could people instead of just blindly following one brand try to be objective? I don't use mac, not because i dislike it, but because I've been raised with Windows and I don't need the features from Apple. However, the Mac OS seems very appealing if you like to create media content.
Stop fanboying out with stupid arguments such as: APPLE STOLE WINDOWS TECH, and the otherway around......
sigh.
Media content creation on a Mac is no easier than on a Windows PC!
Peter Kay The 5K 60Hz IPS display is something that's quite rare though. Not that I would work on 4K content with this machine, but very accurate colors + high resolution is exactly what you want.
Niosus But you can get such monitor and use windows with it too.. that has nothing to do with Apple OS.. Dell has 5k IPS monitor too.
Wyrdak But that monitor alone already costs you $2500
Dell site: accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=UP275K3
That's the same price as the complete iMac:
Apple site: store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac-retina
So if you buy this mac and run Windows on it, you basically got a computer for free compared to the Dell monitor. Look I would never buy it myself, but the price of this thing ain't too shabby for what they're offering.
And I am willing to agree that both OSs have very similar capabilities.
True, but you can use what hardware you want instead of the one that comes with iMac. I mean, iMac has some great hardware if you are willing to throw more money on it but you are prety limited by GPU and CPU.
While you can use standalone monitor for multiple builds you can use iMac only as an iMac without ability to change hardware to your liking.
It really just comes down to what you will do with it.
"Did I said Apple ? I think it's command"
*Looks down at the Windows keyboard* Bahahahah
+Roberto Picardie I don't even think the Windows key is where the Command key is ._. If anything, he might confuse it with the control key but nobody really uses it that much.
apple keyboard.. u blind?
+Andres Cadenza Garza V Yeah it is to the right of Alt. With QWERTY keyboards it is to the left of Alt.
+Andres Cadenza Garza V Lol whenever I switch to windows (via bootcamp) I open the start menu at least 4-5 times (copy and paste anyone?) by accident, before I remember to use the control key. Windows key is definitely where the apple/command key is lol.
I just recently installed Windows 10 through Bootcamp and yeah, things are really confusing. Mostly getting used to the older and less "normal" multitasking of Windows 10 and taking a screenshot. You have to open a whole new app to take a shot of a part of a screen instead of pressing Shift + Command + 3/4.
Don't get me wrong, I love Windows. I build and sell computers, the reason I could never leave Windows (not that I'd really want to, it's not bad by any means) is your average user would never buy a Linux machine on eBay/Amazon from somebody.
They want familiarity and that's perfectly fine. However, seeing Linux Mint, Ubuntu and other versions of Linux... Just makes me sad Mac is even a thing. Windows has it's universality and dominance in the computer world, why would people settle for such a terrible OS when Linux exists? It looks better than Yosemite, functions better and has real-world utility and usability.
Oh well. Sheep are sheep as everybody in the tech world knows.
you are so based leonardo
I wish I could like all of your comments
***** I want to give you a reach around.
So closed source NT is the best way for people who don't want open source Linux but damn that Partially Closed source Unix OS is so bad? Oy vey.
To be honest, I would probably switch to Linux if I could have proper compatibility with all the programs I use. I have Linux installed on an old netbook and it's quite nice, but I still feel like it's a bit lacking (not because of the OS, but because of software developers) in software compatibility.
Oh tell me how Linux or Windows has all the continuity features such as handoff, calling etc implemented to sync with the iPhone.
allot of the issues you had could be fixed with just using a trackpad. Nobody uses a magic mouse.
Using a trackpad on a 3000 dollar desktop unit :l
Yeah, it's actually a great interface. It might sound crazy to a windows guys who plays a bunch of precision shooters, it's way better.
***** Dude i know it sounds crazy but it works great. Most people i know have a gaming mouse attached and a trakpad. the trackpad has multi finger gestures and makes the UI interaction great.
Visual Uprising It's not like I havent used a trackpad. I have a laptop, and I would prefer to plug in a mouse every time despite fancy gesture features. "precision shooters" have nothing to do with it.
Devon Clancy thas cool, I respect that.
Mac was never meant to be like windows, and it can be a frustrating experience when you expect things to be the same. When I first switched, I simply took the time to get used to making it work and exploring the settings. This lead to me discovering new apps and abilities that windows users can only dream of having. For example, BetterTouchTool is a custom multi-touch thing for the trackpad. You can close apps, open stuff, change the volume, anything at all with it. Then there's Butler which does the same for Hotkeys (I personally don't use it). Mac can even natively create hotkeys for apps that have a specific function (such as "Merge Windows"). Focus writer which is a translucent text/typing app that can use your own backgrounds (my favorite for school). Sure mac has its weird bugs/quirks, but there will always be a solution.
Windows was always a stressful experience for me and practically everyone in our family. Be it drivers, viruses, incompatible hardware, and just the amount of troubleshooting we put into things. I'm still a fan of windows, but mac will always be my favorite over the other brands out there. :)
+The Professor, Ok? Like what
***** yes, I have a lot of operating systems.
***** Yes, Windows 7 professional on a brand new computer.
***** Sure, go right ahead! By the way, OS X also has that function.
***** Oh god, another guy who thinks everyone who likes apple thinks everything that isn't apple is copied. I like both operating systems, and I noticed you're a little fan of Windows. So now when that's cleared up we can stop arguing about it.
Really enjoyed this! I use both operating systems daily so it's interesting to hear how the experience was for someone new to OS X.
@6:33 I disagree.. just checked my Windows 8.1 File Explorer - "up directory" exists and is functional. idk why Mac doesn't have it xD
Edit:
@9:42 In Windows you double click a font to preview it and you can right click -> Install it OR click on the option in the top pane or whatever it is in Windows Explorer
There is no comparison of Windows and Mac.. I switched to Macmini 3 month ago.. and its different Thats it.. most people is too much in to Windows so its not easy as it looks but both were different concept.. thats it.
Probably because Mac is based off of UNIX while Windows is based off of....no one knows.
The original first versions of windows I think was based off of Mac actually
GamingRisen i thought both of them are UNIX based.
TheFpsGamer1125
UNIX was created as an alternative to Windows, Like GNU.
No. Unix was there way before.
9:24 My favorite part of any Linus Tech Tips Video: "... I'll be damned if I buy that, instead of a dozen chocolate bars" way to go who ever came up with that line. (9:24)
//copies dropbox app to desktop
as a loyal apple mac user, I'm cringing at some things.
which is why we could make shortcuts!
+dogemeat_ Same here, but I don't mind him. He's been using it for 1 month and is a Windows Expert. You can't change or influence a person in 1 month after a lifetime on another platform. As a PC pro myself - I see his points as valid, but different - rather than simply being negative. I laughed at quite a few.
+Moved.. haha but you have dropbox on the task bar or whatever it's called ( the bar on top). you can access everything using that.
+Moved.. technically with Macs adding things to the desktop is the worst thing to do since anything on the desktop is pre-loaded since it's assumed you're going to use it. For example if you add a video to the desktop it will load the video in it's entirety so that when you open it playback starts immediately with no loading time.
My mother has been an apple computer user all her life, and has never owned a windows computer. She has almost everything on her desktop. What's the issue?
I like Mac OS a bit better, but I can't believe Linus said nothing about the "X" button not actually closing the program.
That is really strange, since it's one of the most common idiotic complaints that Windows users have about OS X. Would have gone well with all the others he mentioned.
my complaint: its an ugly overpriced piece of underpowered shit and if i need to upgrade i can throw it in the trashcan. where the mac pro comes in handy
Oh hey, it's an Apple fanboy who enjoys telling the computer to close a program twice before it will actually do it instead of just telling it once and getting it done.
Jens Thestrup Toft don't know why you think it's idiotic. Close means close. Not hide in the background. Also, maximise means open a whole new virtual desktop in Apple land, instead of actually maximise. I completely understand why Apple does this though, to the average user, once they have open the app once, the second time round, when they go to 'open' it again, it'll seem super fast.
***** I think it's idiotic because it's based on a lack of understanding of how macOS functions. The red button promises to close, which it does - just not the application. It's supposed to close the window, not the application.
Similarly with the green button, which isn't supposed to "maximise" (a Windows term which isn't used in macOS). It's supposed to start the application in full screen (what you call a new virtual desktop). If you hold down Alt while clicking the green button, it will instead resize the window to fit the content it is displaying.
The Mac operating system has never had a maximise button in the sense that Windows does because there's no point to it.
Watching the Video put a HUGE smirk on my face especially during the "Importing of Photos" thing which reminded me of my Cousins Marriage when my Aunt, supposedly a Mac User, asked me to give her a copy of both the Pictures and Videos I've shot.
At it's peak there were 4 people looking confused at a MacBook fiddling around with it in order to copy the goddamn Media from the SD-Card onto the HDD but after like half an hour I somehow managed to get the shit done.
I was seriously like: "I build my own PC's complete with acrylic tubing sporting water cooling loops, sleeved custom wiring done by myself, High-End pump and fan controllers, etc... and It took me like 30min to copy/paste a bunch of files from a SD-Card to a PC?!! W-T-F?!"
Apple makes beautiful Hardware no doubt but certain Software related decisions... Whoa.
Ya... That was exactly my expectation but certainly not my experience.
TalesOfWar
I think Duraltia is refering to the past "reminded me of my Cousins Marriage when my Aunt" meaning maybe an old mac. I have heard that older macs had problems with importing files into other devices.
TalesOfWar
yes but im talking about old macs with their old os's.
TalesOfWar
um not that old maybe 2004ish
Fuck me how dumb do you have to be not to understand it. I've used macs for 10 years and the experience is as intuitive as I can imagine.
Your right about control/option confusion issues and the finder issues.
F14 and F15 are on full mac wired keyboard (still flat aluminum) above the "home" and "page up" buttons, between the number back and qwerty keyboard. F16, F17, F18, and F19 buttons are above number pad keys. I see this video featured the smaller wireless one which explains why it was missing for you.
Also, the "parent directory" feature in Finder windows is available by command-click the title of a finder window, you'll see full path pop down there.
Maybe you could do an iSwitched revision with the new MacBook Pro, just to see how many dongles, adapters and splitters you'll need to use it like the previous Pro.
Going up a directory is easy, just use "cd .."
+gloriousholy well, you're not wrong, lol.
The best advice someone gave me is to alias rm to just move files to a delete folder so you can get them back. About once a month slam my heads on the table and say "dang it, should of followed his advice".
+KingFredrickVI going up in finder is just holding cmd and pressing arrow up
+KingFredrickVI The Up Directory in OS X is handled by the folder name at the top. You right click it to pick a higher directory.
You can also use CMD+UP_ARROW.
Alt + up works to go up directories in Windows Explorer.
+KingFredrickVI Dude, I can't believe I never did this. There are a few times I've decided I didn't need something and rm'd it as well.
It'll probably take a me a few more times to finally put it in, but thank you
as an IT Tech, past linux freak and windows user, i switched to a mac pro tower a few months ago and i absolutely love mac os x. with a couple tiny add ons and commands, it is a killer os.
"finder is horrendous" - my favorite part of the video.
Should try Ubuntu. It's a bit like a combination between OS X and Windows, and from my experience, is one of the better Linux distros out of the box.
Of course, with it being a Linux distro you can turn it into anything you want fairly easily regardless.
And adding hotkeys is extremely easy; you can bind them to literally whatever you want (including your own bash scripts). I have mine setup so that I can turn the volume up and down by doing Ctrl + up arrow or + down arrow, which is really nice cuz my keyboard has no built in media controls and I prefer no media controls anyways (other than those that I setup myself through hotkeys). I've tried to do the same in Windows but haven't been able too (I'm sure it's possible, but I have no clue how).
Plus you can throw Ubuntu on basically any machine that exists. Although from time to time there will be driver issues, but overall everything tends to work fairly easily.
Linux Mint is better. A lot better
Debian or Mint..
1300l
lol i did ever try debain because reasons I can not remember
When I used Linux Mint I didn't much care for it. I personally prefer Ubuntu.
Zukaro Travon
Are you a past mac user?
former windows user, now a Happy Linux user .
former*
my bad, corrected! Thanks !
Which distro? I still need to try "Mint" in a virtual box.
almost 7 years, using Linux! started with Ubuntu(default). still using Ubuntu(gnome) as my primary workstation.using arch linux for home media server(headless). For new user I would suggest to start with Ubuntu (default unity). soon you would be pro only by heavily using the os and by trying different Linux versions(aka destro). Linux mint also a very good destro. Virtual machine or virtual box is BIG no!
Why not use a "virtual box"? I was planning on making a partition but thought that installing V.B. would be the easiest way to test Linux out.
I like that a lot of his complaints were addressed in Sierra.
For your problem with windows management, there si actually a function called application windows, which shows previews of all windows of the selected application. The default key shortcut for it is CTRL + up arrow, but if you go to settings, mission control you can select whatever key you want from a list, or set a hot corner for it. It is really useful for working with multiple windows in the same app.
1:40 Jan 5; Dinner w/ Josh Fractal Design XD
Linus, try use LINUX for 1 month too. I tried once, and was a nightmare. :s
Which distro did you use?
Linux is great. More complex for some things, but great. More stable, faster and just generally better.
bassl0va I really want to try out Linux, but from what I've heard it's horrible for gamers because of compatability issues
MaxiTaxi Most games for PC is written for Direct X. That's why so many games are locked in. Hopefully Steam OS will change that!
Try the latest Ubuntu, it's incredible, if they keep this progress up it will beat windows and mac OS's in 10-20 years. (unpaid development takes longer).
My biggest problem with linux was installing software, but now they have an "app store" (for some things)
Currently thinking about switching to Mac: Thank you for this rewiev it gave me a good and actually quite funny overwiev about the issues and good Parts of the system. Very good Video!
In terms of the stuff you claim OS X can't do, it generally can do everything you want it to, it's just not explained anywhere. Copy is cmd + C, paste is cmd + V, etc.
he said that you cant copy and paste without keyboard shortcuts, or you can use a third party app
***** i didnt said that you cant copy and paste, i said that you cant do It with out keyboard shortcuts, linus says the same on the video
Yeah you can, cmd + X cuts. I use it all the time.
it is cmd+C and cmd+opt+v
That, uh, "spaces" thing reminds me of something I saw over a decade ago in... What's it called again? Oh right: Linux.
Good to see one of the big kahunas realized what a good idea that is.
I take everything you say with a GIANT grain of salt.
+Nathan James cause ur a numbnut..... and you have NO FUCKING CLUE ur alive bro, look at ur jacket it tells it all!!!!
+arno nabuurs **says a 50 year old man**
arno nabuurs bhagen gugrati bhage
Using Finder in the Column view makes it much comfortable as for me
you can turn on a "path bar" at the bottom on finder and that will let you see where things are and you can use that to go up/back as well
So... what you liked about Mac is pretty much everything available in every unix system?
Steve Dice yah but in this case it actually simply works (don't hate me I'm a Linux user and I'm just stating the truth)
No. Definitely not.
Currently using windows 10. There is a directory up button... i think there was in 8 also...
There is in 8.1
Bobby Geiser good point. I haven't used 8.1 much. I'm glad it's back.
Oh BTW windows 10 technical preview for people that didn't now there is a technical preview
***** What are you talking about. I had to Google "heathen" and i found out that this has nothing to do with this video or comment.
LinusTechTips Wait, what is your main OS then? I always thought it was Windows 8.1.
Oh I wish I had been around to assist you. You approached so much of this from a Windows POV.
Love how your not biased
Folder Up is part of Finder, but it's hidden away: right click the Folder Name at the top center of the Finder window and you'll get a drop-down with all the folders above your current one. Also works on some apps as well, but compatibility is spotty.
Jordan Gardiner That's a "drop down" (I mentioned this). It's not "up folder".
LinusTechTips True. Even if you call the drop down a half-measure, it's certainly not a one-click convenience like what Windows has/had.
That aside Linus, this series has been insanely insightful, especially as a dual Windows and Mac user. You've raised many points for how Macs could improve, and if I weren't forced to use a Mac for my job as a web developer, I'd be reconsidering my options right this second. Thanks, as always :D
TalesOfWar
There really should be a button. I think up is more important than back and even more important than forward...
LinusTechTips Cmd + up , or Go > Enclosing folder
4:02 - THAT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH WHEN I WAS USING A MAC AT WORK!! You go to the menu to try and learn a shortcut command for, say, Force Quit. And it says "sideways clover leaf symbol, circle with arrow sticking out of it, weird lines that make no sense". That's great. ONLY ONE OF THOSE GRAPHICS APPEARS ON THE APPLE KEYBOARD!! So after you go "Okay, Command and... what?!", you have to go Google it to figure out that it's supposed to be "Command, Alt/Option, Escape". God dammit Apple, either put those graphics on the keys they represent like you did with Command, or just use words! Your operating system should not have cunting hieroglyphics in it!!
And at least for me, I needed to Command Option Escape way more on Mac to close unresponsive applications than I've ever needed to CTRL ALT DEL/CTRL SHIFT ESC to get to Task Manager on Windows, and I used Mac for 2 years VS probably 20-25 on Windows? So why Apple hides the shortcut keys behind symbols they don't define just completely baffles me! And people call Mac OS the more easy to use, easy to understand OS for computer illiterate people! THE FUCK, MAN?!
Also it wasn't until recently that you could rename a file or folder in the right click menu on Mac. WTF were they thinking not having that for so long?!
*AND WHY DOESN'T THE CLOSE PROGRAM X BUTTON CLOSE THE GODDAMN PROGRAM LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO?!*
But to be fair, I will give credit to Mac for having "print to PDF" baked right in. Before Windows 10, you needed a third party program for that on Windows.
I made the switch many years ago, and some of those learning curves are what really kept me from enjoying a mac because I was constantly jumping in boot camp and using windows because it's so familiar, however like you said in part 2 and 3 it's the OS that many people are buying into, not the hardware. It seems you enjoyed part of the experience Linus with the OS and it's "core" apps but chose not to mention how security like sandboxing, unix architecture and etc are the reasons people don't realize ultimately but are the main drivers for people choosing to move.
They're also buying to ease of use and repair when engaging for support and repair through Apple phone support and the Retail Stores, for people that are novice or ignorant of trying to do it on their own as least. Most people that own any form of technology typically need to buy a service warranty separate from the company that produce it to service it and/or mail it off to a repair center and see it back in 2-4 weeks. I hope you do a part 4 or 5 focused on these which ultimately are the reason you and many other choose to buy a Mac or other Apple tech.
Linus I enjoy all your other videos tremendously, however this video "Part" series was a bit underwhelming and didn't really sink in to the reason you chose to start featuring macs into these videos. I'm currently looking at switching from Synology NAS to a unRAID system and your tutorial has been the most clear-cut of the setup process. Thank you Linus.
OS X is far superior than Windows. I have both. There is no comparison...
Shyzah Shut up homophobe
+Shyzah You do know windows is an OS too right?
***** And I care because...
NONE of his complaints were legit. He just doesnt know how to do most of them.
Btw if you use the trackpad instead of the mouse you get to make A LOT of gestures shortcut with your fingers that you wont be able to do with just the mouse.
And you CLEARLY dont know the hotkeys to most of your complaints.
+PowerHouse_ PR The thing is you DON'T need hot keys at all. Just go to the upper bar and all of the things you can do are there.
+PowerHouse_ PR I got through your first sentence and I already knew you were wrong. Why? Because many of his complaints _were_ legitimate. For example; not having a "Cut" command (or "Move" command in Mac's Finder) in the right-click menu. That's legitimate, especially for someone coming from Windows. I can Cut (Move) files or entire folders without ever even touching my keyboard in a grand total of *_five clicks_*: Right-click the item, left-click cut, click target window, right-click, left-click to paste. Yes, you _can_ use keyboard shortcuts in Mac, but you can also use them in Windows. That's not the point. Or the complaint about having icon sizes being _system wide_ in Finder. That's a legitimate complaint coming from a Window's user, where you can change the icon sizes for _each and every folder_, so your documents folder can have small icons to quickly scroll through and find what you want or large icons for folders with pictures so you can easily thumb through your pictures for the one you want.
That alone is just two of many of the complaints he had that were legitimate, but I get the distinct impression you're going to flagrantly dismiss my arguments just like you did with Linus'. Don't forget that this review was very much so _opinion-based_ and you *_cannot_* tell someone that their opinion is wrong just because it differs from _your_ opinion. Honestly, you shouldn't have to change for your OS. Your OS should adapt to _you_. You shouldn't have to rely on proprietary peripherals to get full function out of your computer.
I stopped reading your comment after you started complaining about file icon sizes. Yes...you can easily change the icon size in each and every folder. Wow, what technology. Right click....show view options...done.
Andres Cadenza Garza V Using default settings even in that menu will change it system-wide. You have to specifically tell your Mac to do it in just the one folder.
+Neonemerld It really won't. The same applies to arrangement and colors.
Dude. Many of your ctiticisms are just bevause there are things you dont know yet. Of course you wont know everything about a new OS to make you feel comfy with it in just a month or two.
Example - your criticism of finder - totally unfounded - you can enable the right click menu and use copy and paste just like in windows. Also you can enable the path bar that will show you exactly where you are in finder. You can search your files in finder and can choose to search just the folder you are in or the entire mac.
The list goes on and on. Please do some more research and remake your video as i think you made it prematurely.
Even some of your keyboard shortcut ctitcisms are not valid. Look at the top keys and icons on the top of your genuine apple keyboards and you will find the answers to your crits
The first month or two switching from one system to another is always a challenge and seemingly half of your criticisms are purely because of that.
+Terence Rhoda Yeah, I know. For half of his complaints I kept looking at my keyboard and doing whatever he said was not possible. I felt kinda sad that he got angry at the OS for not understanding.
+Terence Rhoda why he should spend his time and remake entire video because of some unsatisfied apple fanboy nutjob? he got shit to do
+Legalas Elf If you prefer to stay misinformed and uneducated about the subject, then please be my guest and call me names and throw personal insults for the lack of a constructive argument that makes any sort of sense. LoL. Whatever turns you on.
Terence Rhoda dude's got a family and a job, it's not his responsibility to satisfy you because of your feelings are hurt and you got nothing else to do but asking for video remake. You are mac fanboy? go watch mac fanboy video bloggers who only make positive reviews about apple products, theres plenty of them. You can actually search for only positive reviews to stay safe in your little comfort zone/imaginary world.
+Legalas Elf - like i said. Throwing personal insults and name calling to someone you clearly don';t even know seems to be all you got. . and you are talking about having nothing to do . LoL. you make me laugh. No more comments from me to you. Your lame arguments are not worth further of my time. So have a ball , give it your best shot.
Mac OS has REAL and FAST search, Windows has "go and have coffee break" I will perhaps have finished searching when you're back.
As a long time mac user, Linus's actually brought up some good points on things that i have seem to forgot about or just accepted when it comes to using a mac. Thanks for keeping a level head.
I've always thought that people use apple products for their simplicity, but as a windows user that video left my head spinning...
From a guy who's using both i can say that that was a nice, good and honest review. Thanks! No hating and bunch of stupid things like the most ppl do. :)
copy: command - c
paste: command - v
MOVE: first copy, and then go to the directory you desire and command - option - v. Or just hold down shift and drag.
up directory: command - up arrow
down directory: vise versa
I only moved to mac for a few months, and already all of these are making so much sense. Please don't excuse your hatred for the unknown for lacking functionalities
One of the best comparisons i've come across on UA-cam.. Thanks Linus !!
I mean, drives show up on their own on the desktop when you plug them in, and not to mention the top bar has the go function AND also in Finder is multi tabs.The copy paste? It's there, so I don't know what you're talking about with that not being there. Also, on a Mac keyboard Command is RIGHT next to Space also right under C, V and X. Finally you can change the view of files in Finder to either Cover Flow, Columns, Lists, and Icons not just a list how you had it.
Drake McGowan The CUT-paste
Vi Hua its there. who right clicks to cut and paste? wtf?
And if you really need to click to cut you can click on the file and in the top bar click on the edit tab and click cut. Not that hard. And if that's too hard for you click on the item and click on the help tab and type cut. It'll make a magical bubble showing exactly where it is appear.
hoah I do depending on what I'm working with. I mostly use Ctrl/Appl+X though
Drake McGowan Wow, that's the most objective thing I have ever heard ;-)
One thing that annoys me about Mac is not being able to install apps from the App Store to a different drive. Unlike windows they have to go on my operating system drive which in my case is a small ssd. For Logic Pro the 50gb of extra content HAS TO be installed on the ssd in the application support folder which completely fills up the ssd.
Drag them to what ever drive you want after they're done downloading. It's silly you can't choose where they download though. Although even Steam only recently started allowing that as well.
Nice to see most of his complaints are resolved, 7 years later. I'm sure there will be new ones though
First macOS review that expresses the many concerns I had when experimenting with osX. I find the finder/explorer abstractions in windows and macos both more confusing that lookiing at the drive hierarchy
In order to CUT in OS X, just use Cmd+C (Yes, it's a copy command), and Cmd+Opt/Alt+V to paste it. No need for third party app.
Maybe because we are so used to Windows/Linux way to cut and paste, we find the OS X way,... a little difficult. Understandable, because they have different thinking.
In Windows/Linux, we have to decide to copy/cut files or folders FIRST, before we can copy/move them to other location.
Whereas in OS X, just copy the files or folders and decide to copy/move them LATER in other location.
Each has their own advantages, I guess. But personally, I like the OS X way.
This video should have been titled: UA-camr with massive Windows user fan base attempts (unsuccessfully) to review a Mac. I personally use Windows 10 and OS X daily and I'm still much quicker on a Mac. Windows has far more annoying traits IMO.
+Richard Dale dude he is IT specialist and he struggled to use mac because of lack of functionality.Imagine what will feel a person who is not into IT. Mac is shit get over it
+Legalas Elf the only thing thats shit here is your argument. :)
+Legalas Elf mac is more used for writing, and things like that. Windows pcs are more for gaming because they are more customizable.
+Radu Brujban (GamerTag007) macs are good for most types of creative work. Admittedly they are crap for gaming.
+Richard Dale PCs are just as good for creative work too. There's literally no difference between what computers can do except for the software that they get. If both Mac and PC had access to exactly the same library of software and had _proper_ compatibility for games on Mac, then they'd both run equally well.
I'm viewing this in my triple boot pc (Linux Mint 17.3, Windows 10, and OSX El Capitan) Right now I'm on El Capitan and it's great.
Finder has almost anything at your finger tips (using keyboard) :
- to go to the up folder just do [CMD+up arrow]
- you can also add a "path" icon to the tool bar of any finder window, just personalize it (right click on the tools bar)
"iSwitched Right The F*ck Back to Windows" -Linus's next video?
The majority of the points you made were fair. The inability to cut/paste inside Finder still annoys the living out of me to this day, and using scroll wheels are absolutely hideous. But I think you really didn't spend enough time exploring the little nooks and crannies of OS X. Pretty much every complaint you made about Finder is fixable various different settings (thumbnail view, system wide/folder specific sorting), and image exporting is much easier (drag n drop) inside the more basic Image Capture than the horrendously bad iPhoto app, and Apple have promised a 'best of both worlds' photo application coming soon that blends the best of Image Capture, iPhoto and Aperture in to one application. Like Windows, you can't expect it do everything for you out of the box.
That comment is fair enough. THis is the same logic I use for the winners of " waaaa..iHate Win8 because..metro...waaa" Then I remind them of " classic start from ninite.com" Problem is now solved, and then they realize " why did I complain about such an EASY to resolve problem again?"
TalesOfWar
this is very true but people don't want to waste their time to go back to the file they copied and delete it.
TalesOfWar
some people want to move files while deleting the original file that's why they cut and paste. Btw if you still don't seem to understand Im going to take you as a troll or a fan boy and wont respond back unless you bring up a good point.
TalesOfWar Sean Kim Just chiming in here - TalesOfWar is right. CMD+C then CMD+V copies and pastes the item. CMD+C then ALT+CMD+V moves the item. I never knew this shortcut existed. Thanks for letting me know!
TalesOfWar
okay i need to test that out at school. Also I did not know you knew that terminology. lol
im a mac user and have been for several years and this is my personal, number one argument. windows os design hasn't changed much since the early 2000's. apples os looks beautiful. it makes the whole user experience better. with a clear rounded applications dock, simple squares and circles for icons that have just the right amount of color and even shading to keep it from being too simple, beautiful but simple animations for opening and closing applications, and short sounds to match users actions such as throwing something away and emptying your trash, though you can turn this off. but windows is really annoying. the last time i owned a windows based pc was in 2005 and every time i go to best buy and try out new ones there's really no difference. there's a million sub menus, icons are extremely dated and what is new is just hard to look at. it just vomits squares and bright, obnoxious colors like it was designed in ms paint by a 7yr old. the last time i really used a pc i used it for nearly 20 minutes and could barely navigate from the start menu to that windows 5 looking menu, or is it like an os inside of an os? i still don't understand what they were thinking when they designed that
yes macs aren't really customizable hardware wise or can be pushed as far as some factory made pc's, but they aren't meant to be. macs are just luxury computers. up until the early 90's they were meant for graphic design and editing but thats mostly changed and i hate that apple for the past couple years has been advertising them as work computers. non macs have the advantage as far as customizability goes, but apple really was doing great until around 2012 with keeping things simple for the everyday person to watch videos, study and interact with others online
lol youre so wrong about windows, go use it, them come back.
+Wiikendz i recently used a friends windows tablet and i don't understand what you mean. everything i said is right and i still don't like it. unfortunately i have to have something that runs windows for school soon but i think I'm just gonna use my macbook air since it doesn't have to be op
Maddy What you described is no where close to Windows. You have no idea what youre talking about.
+Wiikendz well then, please enlighten me
Maddy just look at windows, easy.
Thank your your honesty! I haven't had a windows in like eiight years, so I've been tempted to switch back due to the prices. Would be awesome if you had a mac user doing what you just did.
Keep being awesome!
Did you ever switch to Windows?
@@goncalo33 Well I'm still using the mac but it is so incompatible wuth the outside world that I'm planning to. Apple soldering components stuck is harming resale value so it's harder to ger money for the next one.
@@storjoel That's understandable. I like Windows. I tried switching to Linux, but the compromises I had to make weren't worth the trouble.
Almost all of these are already in the OS, you just don't know how to do it.
Because they hide them.
+chemicalsam At least Windows doesn't _require_ you to learn every little hot key for small operations.
It does. Every OS does if you're new to it.
not really. windows doesn't need you to know them. it just more convenient to operate the system.
LOL try to remember the first time you touch a windows pc. Do you know that you need to press Ctrl C to copy? I guess not.
Does Linus dip tobacco? 10:42 (back pocket)
I totally thought that was dip as well ...
Pompa Stompa (Red Actual) In a video of their behind the scenes stuff, a pack of cigarettes was next to his computer.
3:00 The Answer is that Launchpad is an addition, not a replacement, and it wasn't over emphasized in its introduction with Lion in 2011.
this was a weirdly intense blast from the past
Id like to really see your thoguhts of MAC OS now after you've actually LEARNED how to do all the things you complained about haha it's just like anything you're not fully use to yet... Once you get use to it and master it, then it's a piece of cake!! lol
Jeremy Williamson exactly
use it for 5 years now never going back to windows.
GameAndElse 👍🏼👏🏻👊🏼
Before I was a "PC masterrace/Mac is overpriced peace of shit" kind a guy. I built 4 custom PC all from scratch and I used to custom compile Windows version(to make a lightweight Windows for gaming), so I was kind of a hardcore PC user. I had an iPhone 4 for a while, which I really loved. Then I finally got a Macbook Pro because I was in USA and planned to sell it when I came back home. But I ended up keeping it. First I ran Windows on Bootcamp because I just loved Windows and at the time I thought MacOS was confusing to use. When Windows 8 came out I switched to Mac because I thought it was horrible the way Microsoft was heading. Now I love MacOS and I can never switch back. There was a while when my macbook got ruined because I had the graphics fault, which Apple had made a replacement program for. For a few months I ran Windows on my laptop and stationary. I then switched back to Mac when i got the Macbook running again and now I'm 10x more productive than before(again). It's just an operating system to love. You don't have to worry about temperatures, adjusting BIOS settings, worry about Windows crashing and loosing everything, and the apps for Mac is soo incredibly more innovative than on Windows. Windows apps are barely changing and most apps are just as basic as they were in Windows XP. With a button on the menu bar im suddenly extending my desktop to my TV, with a button on the menu bar im suddenly streaming all my audio/music to my speakers, one button and im sharing internet connection with my iphone, all built in MacOS functions. There are several apps for all social apps like whatsapp, facebook messenger and so much more(I have them running on the menu bar, just a click away). The apps are infinitely better on Mac.
You just can't use it. Wait. I'm not saying it's better than Windows in everything, because both have pros and cons. But it can be used way better than you showed
I'm still using my late 2010 21.5" iMac... it's still pretty good for me with a Windows 8.1 VM and Yosemite. I sold my magic mouse a while ago, I hated it. I use two bluetooth keyboards, the one they gave me and a Dell y-raq-del2 keyboard and a USB gaming mouse for playing any games, mainly League of Legends which doesn't use too much computing power. I dual monitor with a 1080p TV/Monitor.
Runs all the Adobe programs well, Photoshop, Flash, the whole suite.
I've had it for almost 6 Years and I've loved it.
Loooong time Windows user here. I switched to MAC and like it much better. Just wish I had switched earlier. One thing I didn't like too much was Finder. Purchased Path Finder and now I've found harmony with File Management on OS X.
If only the two operating systems put their pros together to make an amazing OS but alas.
Unix based Windows anyone?
How I long for native Aero Snap on OS X.
faissialoo Hell yeah, that would make me go back to Windows for sure
faissialoo DirectX would have to be rewritten to support it, but it would help to get DirectX based games to other OSes. Since Linux is an Open Source clone of Unix, it wouldn't take much effort to make DirectX compatible with it. Then SteamOS and other Linux distros could play most PC games. Although I doubt Microsoft would give up their advantage in the gaming industry.
Since Linux is closely related to Unix, all you have to do is find a Linux distro that resembles Windows in UI and functionality. Zorin is a Linux distro that imitates Windows quite well. But if you want more customizability, go with a KDE based distro. Fedora and Kubuntu both come with KDE. KDE actually had multiple desktops since version 1.0 back in 1998. KDE is similar enough to Windows that the UI change won't be as jarring as other desktop environments, aside from Zorin, if you are really used to Windows.
If you want to use an OS that's Unix based instead of Linux based, you can use FreeBSD with KDE. FreeBSD and BSD are Unix based. BSD is what OS X is based off of.
benrocks832000 yeah, linux and windows would make a great combo
Eww why linus why do you even :( my respect for you has just drop............ a lot.
Its Linus(techtips) and if he wasn't willing to tryout new things like this I would have unsubscribe along time ago. I for one like it when he shows us new stuff hell if he never did new stuff and just stuck with pc unboxing I never would have thought of even considering building my own PC, and still would be stuck on my ps3 and prebuilt Dell.
He was just pointing the cons of OSX, it's not a subjective review, everything he showed us was backed with an example. If you are a light OSX user, these kind of things probably wouldn't bother you anyways.
TRIGUND lol me too
Did you even bother to watch the video?
At 5:40 mark, you say finder is a mess because of the arrangement, and I agree IF you decide to see ALL your files in list mode! If you look on top ( above the "documents" title), you have 4 options, see everything with just icons, or list mode (the one you looking at in this video), Columns ( with this, you can see all your files with their roots, folder by folder), or Cover mode (more for music albums or pictures maybe).
'Did I say apple keyboard? Forget about it, you know what I mean." haha
so here is my thoughts: I study computer science, I use windows 8.1 Lenovo y500 laptop and here is the deal : when coding in c / c++ windows makes me want to rip my hair out, the memory management and debugging is just terrible, so when I code c / c++ I work in virtual linux, I cannot just use linux because it is missing the programs I daily use. What I miss the most in windows is sensible commandline shell (preferably bash ofc). Windows .bat files are a fucking joke, they are terrible for any slightly more complex scripts. Friend bought MBP and he let me use it for a bit and the only thing I can say about it is that everything coding related on it just straight up works well. Combined with the battery life and size/weight it is amazing for IT student. But because of all the priprietary stuff and apple being apple and anything they do is non hackable I do not want to switch ... I see why people would though.
lol you used the old hack term
Visual Studio has an amazing debugger, so I'm not sure what you are smoking with that one.
If you somewhere mismanage memory in some weird way windows just sucks it out of its ass wich leads to random behavior instead of crash I dont know about c++, I tried to do c in visual and it was terrible experience imo.
Yup, there's a reason developers and software engineers prefer Macs. There was a recent survey in a Harvard compsci course, and the results were 66% of the students taking that course used Macs, 20% used Linux, and the rest used Windows. These are your future industry leaders.
John Koo
Well I know that macs are used because of their great portability. Anyways this is quite biased since college students are most likely going to buy a mac. At least I think I am right