You're Wrong About Wilt Chamberlain... | NBA Misconceptions
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2023
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Wilt Chamberlain is an enigma amongst NBA fans. Some people consider him their literal GOAT, and others consider him a fraud. Today, I break down some common criticisms of Wilt Chamberlain, and see if they actually hold any merit.
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Well done. My only complaint is the statement that Wilt cared more about stats than winning. What other star player changed his game completely twice for the sake of winning (for the 76ers and Lakers), sacrificing unparalleled scoring for his team? He took lots of heat for losing, so he emphasized his stats to prove his effort, but that doesn't mean he put stats first. I followed his career closely from 63 on and I've never seen a more talented or more effective player. I don't believe in GOATs, but no one should come ahead of him in the discussion.
I agree 100%. Put Dipper on those 60s Celtic Teams and They're Better. I believe They would've been a Super Team and Dipper would've fit in Perfect. On the other hand, put Russell on those 60s Warriors or 76ers Teams and They're Not Better. Maybe Worse. Not taking anything away from Bill Russell. I think Him, Dipper and The Big O were the Best of that Era, 60s and Early 70s.
This is a very good post and perspective.
Wilt caught flack for losing with the emphasis that he could have done more to help his team win. It's difficult to say that he could have "done more" when he scored 40 points and grabbed 25 rebounds. How could he have done more when he's outproducing every player on the court?
Truthfully, Wilt was always in a no-win situation from the beginning. If he won, his achievements would have been minimized because he was bigger than everyone else, and he was supposed to win. If he lost, it was because he cared more about his stats.
He was always put under a microscope, so I can understand why he was somewhat sensitive to criticism.
So glad to see respect thrown to the goat. It’s insane to me how ignorant and foolish and comfortable in misinformation and lack of research the casual like culture of nba fans are that really started in my eyes since the 90s. Wilt Chamberlain is without a doubt the goat and the mid60s-mid70s saw the greatest combination of talent strict rules Pureness of the game from the most overall great players and physicality. The high pace was due to the high basketball iq ball movement and thus the ball moving faster than a player can dribble which also means nonstop running which requires far superior athleticism than used today and other slower paced eras with no load management at all, no flagrant foul, no so called advanced tech n medicine n training, etc… and wilt did this averaging 48min a game often without ever fouling out once in his career which also makes him the 2nd best defender ever to bill Russell’s first
Speaking of 2nd best defender, wilt is the goat shot blocker and up there with the greatest in steals, the goat rebounder, and up there with the goats of bulk scoring and field goal scoring. He’s also led the league in assists as well at will as a big where all time great guards couldn’t showing he has all time great potential court vision and Playmaking ability as well as high off IQ and that he transcends his position and dominates it more than just about anyone else has ever all done in an era where rules down to the assits were hardest to get and backdown punishment was not allowed so u had to be creative especially as bigs to score and over 60% of wilts shots coming from fades n turnarounds close and deep
No one in history but Wilt has beaten a team in the postseason whom outnumbered their own in hall of famers by 2 or more multiple series and no one has his impact on winning when the HoF odds are in his favor, even, or against him. No one’s come close to his versatility records or 90plus records in general nor good enough to change at the very most 1 rule to the game cuz of their greatness while wilt changed 4 in order to be stopped from destroying th game literally
Today and all other eras that came after him lack all the greats at his position like wes, Reed, elvin, Connie, Bellamy, russell, thurmond, Zelmo, etc… and there’s backdown punishment allowed and slower pace to conserve energy as well every era after wilts retirement which leaves more opportunities to have even more of a majority of his teams rebounds scoring FG scoring blocks steals n assists is possible for wilt
Not to mention wilt and his era didn’t even rest in the postseason. They were such hybrid freak of nature athletes many of whom still to this day have track n field records even the most average of players in 60s n 70s, they they would make sure to sharpen their swords in the best summer pro league tournament ever the Rucker park summer league
Wilt the clear cut goat no matter how u slice it
I am 62, and have followed NBA since mid 70ths WILT WAS THE GOAT!!! End of dicussion!!!
If u have any older brothers or uncles/parents around could you ask if they could confirm Wilts 100 point game since a lot of people doubt it today
@JK27199 it gets its doubts because it was played in Hershey and not televised or recorded on camera at all just some radio clips.... I'm pretty young but wilt scoring 100 isn't really that surprising if u know about his athleticism and underrated skill
@@JK27199 Al Attles, who was Wilt's team mate and the head coach for the Warriors for 14 seasons must be a liar, then. As well as all the guys playing that day. The whole league would have had to be in on it, too. Tweens and YT "analysts" are just looking for clicks.
There’s 0 reason to doubt Wilt’s 100 point game. Modern people seem to think that if there isn’t video evidence there’s no proof it happened. That’s totally false. There’s more evidence for Wilt’s 100 point game than there is 99% of historical figures that ever lived
I'm 64. I can actually say that I saw Dipper in Person in a Playoff Game against the Chicago Bulls at the Old Chicago Stadium back in the Early 70s. Back then, the Bulls were in the Western Conference. During WarmUps, Dipper Threw a Hook Shot from the Scorer's Table. ALL NET. The Crowd went Nuts.
Watch alot of the Laker Games on TV back then, too. ABC had Game of the Week on Sunday Afternoons, with Bill Russell and Chris Schenkel and Keith Jackson. Saw Wilt plenty of times on TV Late 60s, Early 70s. What an Incredible Presence on the Court. Still Dominating that late in His career. No Doubt in My mind. From what I've seen and heard, Wilt was GOAT. Check out the 60 some Records He still holds, especially the 559 games of 48 minutes or more.
It's about time this truth was told. Nicely done. Wilt Chamberlain is, without any doubt, the most talented, most dominant, and simply the greatest singular Basketball player who ever stepped on a court. I do have to say I find it disappointing that you don't even mention Connie Hawkins in this presentation.
FORGET ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE OF RECENCY - WILT CHAMBERLAIN IS THE BASKETBALL GREATEST OF ALL TIME (GOAT)
Wilt would dominate today. He would just need a few months to adjust to the way the game is played. He had incredible skill and touch, and wasn't allowed to back guys down like Shaq did his whole career. If he was allowed to do that, he could have put up 150 points in a game.
Put early 1960s wilt in nba development league, wilt learn new lost 📫 post moves, basketball shooting videos
he is to me, the only real contender to the goat aside from MJ, i think jordan is the best but if i had to pick one for my team....
Wilt had most points in one game, how many points is Jordan making in the playoffs or one on one v Wilt?
Personally, I think Wilt is easily top 5 as well but he hurt his own credibility by making outrageous claims later in life.
Most famous being his claim of sleeping with 20,000 women and completing at the time the fastest Coast to Coast (NYC to LA) drive ever in his Lamborghini. I believe the 100 point game happened but one of the most common criticisms you'll hear is that with no video evidence it's just another story, and he opened that criticism up on to himself I feel.
Cool video by the way, and hope you keep them up! Was fun to have this recommended to me :)
Every season has close games. Every playoff series has close games. Every championship series has close games... When you have to take the GOAT, put him on the bench so your team has a better chance of winning, you're not the GOAT. I'll take a center that can hit FTs over Wilt. Russell isn't even close. I'm going Kareem, Hakeem, Jordan (no order) Good video though. Fact based. I just have my own feelings on clutch FTs.
wth are you even talking about. lmfao Wilt averaged 47.3 mpg in the 160 playoff games he played in. Go look up his playoff log. Like 90% of his games were 48 minutes or more. Maybe more. No coach ever took Wilt out of a game. More false narratives by casuals.
@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 - reread my paragraph.... When you hit 50% from the FT line, you're not the closer. Pay attention and stop starting a false narrative. Bad FT shooters are never closers!!! It's fact.
@@chrismazeffa696 What's this? " put him on the bench so your team has a better chance of winning". This is what you said. It's also ridiculous. So, you take out the best rebounder and shot blocker that ever played the game because he might miss a game winning foul shot. How often does that happen? Excuse my french, but that's just stupid. So lose rebounds and intimidation in the paint. Good thing you're not a coach. lmao
@@chrismazeffa696 He played 47.3 mpg in the playoffs. I'm sure those coaches knew more than you do. Casuals who think they know the game. Go watch Space Jam again.
@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 - How many last second shots has Wilt made? have a nice night rookie.
I think the NBA is so much more athletic now because of how much more popular it is (was the 7th most popular sport back then) and there are so many more people who want to play basketball. The talent pool is exponentially wider. On average players today are substantially more athletic
Also through the mid 60s teams only allowed 2 black players per team
The reason Wilt put up such high numbers was because of the pace, back then teams had 30 more possessions than we do today, add the fact that the average field goal percentage was around 40% and you have tons of rebounds and fastbreak opportunities. He also played every minute of every game
Try looking at Wilt’s per 75 numbers for context, they’re much less eye popping.
Man was also record obsessed, would berate teammates when they didn’t come through on a pass that would have gotten his assist total higher. Teammates have said you could ask him at any point in the game how many points he had and he’d know
Bill Russell was voted the MVP 5 times by NBA players, if they thought he was just the beneficiary of good teammates they wouldn’t have done that
You mention output and say Walt Bellamy produced more than Bill but that’s not how you look at basketball, especially in the 60s. Bill’s defense was unlike anything else in his era, he lead his teams with his defense. All the stars of the time talk about how nightmarish he was and how he killed teams
The reason most of the players on the Celtics entered the hall of fame was because they won so many rings, they were a DEFENSIVELY slanted team
Havlicek and Sam Jones were genuinely great but if you look at all star selections Bill and Wilt played with similar amounts of all stars
If a player is a starter on 5 championships in an incredibly young league then of course they’ll make the hall of fame
If you actually look at their numbers guys like Sharman were putting up 9 points
You didn’t say much that I actually disagree with in the video.
Wilt per 100 possessions in 1962 was still averaging 40 points and 20 rebounds. Still ridiculously good. And to discount the fact that the man played OVER 48 minutes a game that season without rest while still putting up those kind of numbers per possession is absurd. No one is doing anything close to that these days.
Yes, talent pool was wider. I also agreed in the video that on average, players are better now because more people care about the sport. This was partially mitigated by there being 8 teams. Still a ton of talent in the league at that time.
He statistically did produce more than Russell. That’s what I said. I didn’t once claim he was better than Russell or made a bigger difference than Russell. If that was my claim I would have had a whole section of Wilt vs Walt Bellamy. Clearly Russell was his biggest rival.
Do you consider that someone like Sharman if he played on a team like the Chicago Packers instead of the Celtics, he would have put up significantly better numbers? The Celtics were undeniably a super team. There’s only so many shots that can go around.
I agree with the fact that Wilt was stat obsessed. I said as much, mentioning at the end that he still has flaws as a player, that being one.
All of that considered, Wilt still very clearly was a freak of nature and an absolute force offensively
Bill Russel made the US Olympic team in the high jump. You could only play one sport back then, so he chose basketball. If you took Wilt from 1960, he'd still be the best athlete in the league right how. He ran a 4,4 40 at 290 pounds at his KC Chiefs tryout. In fact, Hank Stram said he was a better wide receiver than Jerry Rice. I hope you know who he is. Wilt could dunk from the free throw line. Legitimately. Lavine, Jordan and Erving all had their feet over the line and took a full court run. Wilt did it with three steps from the foul line. Wilt had a max reach of 13'3". The "modern NBA record" is 12'8" by Dwight Howard. Heights are inflated. Hakeem would have been listed as 6'9" tall in the 60's and Shaq and Embiid aren't even legit 7 footers. Wilt is the same height as Porzingis but 290 to 300 pounds for most of his career. Take Lebron and make him almost 6" taller and he still isn't Wilt. Also, Wilt was no Shaq. He pretty much invented the fade away and had an array of post moves and shots. Though, he was limited by the traveling rules back then which were way more stringent than today or even in the 80's. Wilt played for the Harlem Globetrotters. Who could cover him today? The centers of today are pretty lame. In a league of 30, maybe 5 are decent. Embiid looks like his has concrete in his shoes next to Wilt. And, just to state another fact, the average height of a center in 2023 was 6'8'86" tall barefoot. Players in the 60's were measured barefoot. If Hakeem is 7 foot than Russell was 7 foot as he's slightly taller than Hakeem. In fact, the centers in the 60's were on average taller than the centers right now. Competition? Of the 29 series Wilt played in, he played an NBA75 center 16 times. Russel, Kareem, Thurmond and Reed. 4 or 5 more against HOFers. That's way more competition at his position than probably any player ever. Jordan played against ONE NBA75 SG in his entire playoff career. That's enough for now.
@@hoophierarchy Just to add. Walt Bellamy was like the 5th best center back then in an 8 team league. Walt would be an ALL Star today. Don't believe me? Go watch footage of an old Bellamy playing against a young Kareem.
7th most popular sport? Name the other 6 more popular in the US at that time. It was third behind football and baseball. It was more popular in the north east than the rest of the country. I was alive back then. The big 3 to letter in were football, basketball and baseball. In HS, football, soccer and cross country in the fall. Basketball and wrestling in the winter. Baseball and track in the spring. Hockey in Canada and more rural areas of the north east and north central. You make it sound like it was tennis or gymnastics, which were fringe back then. Really, I'm interested in knowing which 6 sports were more popular than basketball back then. Yes, it's increased in popularity but all sports have. Back then, most revenue was from gate receipts, not TV. That's why a lot of games were blacked out unless the stadium was sold out. The reason basketball increased in popularity was because of cable TV. All the sports leagues increased their revenue from cable contracts. Then the networks had to become competitive, too. The NBA does a real shite job of educating their younger fans.
overrated
ive chnage dmy mind on wilt. hes in my top 10. maybe top 5. he was a god and more ahead of his time than maybe any athlete ever
I have him 4th all time
@@JK27199 i cant argue putting him top 5. only thing i know 100% is MJ is #1
Why didn't he score 80, 70 or 60? He never scored a high point total again. Why?
he didnt feel like it, but he has scored 60 many times. He knew he could easily dominate but decided not to, thats why he didnt dunk very often. Along with this, at a point in his career he decided to just not score and only pass/
It’s not that he didn’t feel like it, this comment is just false. I hope this guy is trolling lol because Wilt scored 70 as an individual more times than the rest of the league history combined
@@hoophierarchy yeah, but it is a large factor isnt it. He couldve easily scored more if he started dunking or always taking his shots as he was extremely athletic. I also assumed the question was why didnt he score very close to 100 again as the question is just false.
you are wrrong! he had about avarage 50 point per game in his prime for at least some years.
He scored in the 70s 5 times; in the 60s 26 times.
Wilt is #2 all time right behind Jordan
Wilt was a better rebounder and shot blocker... what is MJ better at ?
How old are u?? i am 62 have seen wilt live and he would with his speed easily stop Jordan!!
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