how to - wallpapering around a window - the nasty bit
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Wallpapering around a window or door reveal can be tricky. Here I show you one way you can do it, without the need to splice, over lap and cut through the paper.
The less cuts on the surface the better. Some times there may need to be an overlap cut/splice depending on how the wallpaper falls over or above a window or door.
Try and hide or lose these by doing it where you cant see it or notice it. Behind curtains/drapes is a good place.
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Hello Phil, I was a decorator for ten years (1996-2006), then I went off and had a “career” which after 16 years I have had enough of and have decided to go back to my passion. Just started out again. Paste the wall has clearly come on a long way since my first time round because it was truly awful. Difficult to control the saturation. I’m always happy to move with the times and blend the traditional with new ways but have you encountered any issues with the modern PTW papers? And do you use dedicated PTW paste?
Really appreciate your videos, when I was working out how to go back to decorating they kept me inspired, so thank you. All the best
Lovely words Thanks.
PTW.... Don't over think it.
But..... Some PTW papers have very very small 'glass' beads on them.. drop everywhere.
Even though they are non woven PTW. Those papers are best to be pasted on the paper. Brush down the length to get any loose beads off, then paste as normal. Then hang.
The reason you don't PTW with those.... If you did, the beads can drop off while hanging.. stick to the paste in the wall.. you can't see to remove them.. but they'll show up under the paper like a bowling ball once youve got it on.
Also get yourself a decent laser liner.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I will definitely invest in one, thanks for the tips 👍
@@xxnonstopdancingxx btw... Paste... Wickes own brand does almost everything
If you have a expensive paper that says use their paste. Let tye customer buy it. Then no come back ;)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks for this Phil. I have a wallpaper job on Monday. There is a Wickes about 5 miles away en route to the job, so that is handy. What is even more important is that there is a van in the corner of the car park that does a bacon and egg fresh baguette for £2.50.
@@xxnonstopdancingxx the Tarde card discount will pay for the food lol
Nice and tidy Phil, cant beat the tried and tested methods.
Thanks. There's other ways... But you have to be mindful of now wasting paper and trying to do as less cuts as possible that may be seen (splices can show quite bad if done wrong).
Cracking job there Phil👍
Great job Phil, good sound advice 👍
Beautiful, beautiful work
Thank you! Cheers!
The commentary is brilliant, what other people might be saying - haha! Informative, good work, like to see someone that loves the job! Thanks for sharing
Much appreciated!
Great work once again and explained very well .. 👍
Class mucker
Keep them coming.
Great video as always phil ,very informative ,keep up the good work
Hi Phil. Thanks !!! Followed your advice for the joint infill instead of the splice and it went in a treat 😎👍👍
Glad to here, it means less visible cuts .. but there will be times doing a splice will work in your favor.. it will depend on tye type and pattern of a paper.
Glad you had success though :)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator top man. Working that but edge was a worry till I started melting the two edges together! Great vid. Great advice
Thanks Phill, love your videos , really helpful , can you go into window reveals with wallrock thermal lining paper? Thanks
The fabric wall rock or the polystyrene backed one?
You can, but you cut it neat to the corners
Then polystyrene/paper faced one, if you have and gaps etc, use one of those light weight fillers .. like red devil or the prestone light weight fillers..... Keep it neat and it will dry
Then you'll line over it again just with the normal fibre non woven wallpaper rock.
They'll be a video on the thermic carbon WallRock later on in March.
The fabric one
Always splice it's not difficult at all, it's just the same principle as matching 2 lengths up but your just doing a double cut. This is an amateurs way patching pieces in.
Thanks for your input.
i agree 100% not a good look for a professional .for example if that piece springs it will look worse than any splice.
Another great video Phil! I’m starting to become an avid viewer! 😁👍🏻
Good ... ;) Smash that bell.
Next one Sunday night... Only 6 mins long though
Nice One Phil,Cheers Mate!
thanks, there is other ways of doing this, but you need to make sure you don't have unnecessary cuts showing, as its easy to lose a pattern by splicing to try and go around a reveal.
I'm part way through a job where I'm papering a bathroom with a heavily patterned floral vinyl paste the wall for the customer, it was spliced around the window previously, so was going to do the same, but you've got me rethinking it now!
Hi Kris.
Do what you feel is best visual to the eye.. also for you too.
I had one yesterday I had to slice as I had no room to fit a piece under. But it was no pattern, no match and you couldn't see it.
If you have spare paper . Try both ways if you can.
What you don't want is a splice through the pattern that moves and it then doesn't look like it's matching.
Every job is different. It's being able to do various ways that's handy to have in your arsenal ;)
How did the paper look before being spliced?
Had the edges sprung . Or altered in colour highlighting where it was cut?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator looked okay to be fair, it's a light background design, the edges had darkened slightly but considering it's a bathroom with only a window for ventilation it had held up pretty well, they had a 5mm overlap on the underside too, where the upright part met the spliced in section underside. The customer was good at decorating when they were a bit younger and did it themselves I think.
It's a shame I can't attach a photo in UA-cam comments!
Actually, after looking back at the before photos, I'm going with your method 😊
Like your videos mate ,especially your sense of humour 👍
I been using wickes tub paste for years, excellent product at a good price.
I agree with you about customer getting the paste when hanging expensive paper.
Imo it's more of a problem now .When you get these fancy interior shop selling all the soft furnishings and going into selling wallpaper with no knowledge of the papers they are selling.🙄🙄🙄
There's not much Wickes paste can't hang.
We thin down for lining.
Really thin down for pre pasted.
Keep it neat for wallrock...and more expensive stuff.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Make you right Phill.
Not a method I would entertain, FairPlay to you if it works
Why not?
It a good way, when you have papers that can show cut joints, or there's a chance of pattern looking off due to cutting through it.
Nothing worse than seeing an angle cut from the corner of a reveal to a good paper edge.
Doing it how i show means you'll lose any cut edge on the corner of the reveal.
The less cuts and splices the better.
I would just have one vertical splice which would be seamless and with correct pattern match.
On the under wrap around I imagine you would have a sharp edge against your next piece which you have wrapped around. If it works for you great and your client is happy, that all that matters. Plenty of ways to skin a cat as they say!
you need to weigh up the type of paper too,
that blue oriental style paper I show on other videos, I did cut top to bottom over a window...
1. the window edges could take it.
2. the paper was non woven and cut well
3. how the papers fell, it meant I could lose the cut well, without seeing it due to the fussiness of the pattern.
So I do it that way as well, when needed/or when allows.
It works is the main thing
great vid and explained very well. I would of like to seen the reverse cut to you first piece of paper you hanged in part 1
What do you mean reverse?
Another vid goes out Sunday showing the other internal angle being done.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator so you've hung your first piece of paper overlapped it then trimmed of excess paper . the second piece of paper you talked about doing over lapping then trimming with your shears. I've heard that called a reverse cut not sure if it correct mined.
@@richardloze5994 I follow you now.
Yes. I was giving the example that if you came in from the other side, you can find that where I trimmed more at the top on the left length... It can be more off the bottom on the right length. (Into the corners).
Sunday video may show you bette how you come back onto your overlap (the 5mm return)... Using the trimmed down off cut.
My other videos showing you papering with a laser liner on corners that run out may also help.
ua-cam.com/video/mKj2fGjBJE0/v-deo.html take a look. Any better?
i'm going to try that way i have always spliced but that way looks a lot better wish me luck
The less cuts the better... Less likely to show a miss lined up cut pattern too.
There are times I may cut through, top to bottom above a window if it's not too large, then bring it around under the reveal. It depends on the paper.
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You wouldnt always put that end peice in before the other 2 short pieces.if it wasnt paste the wall.paper it could expand more and you get it overlapping when it dries out properly.
thanks for the comment. If you are talking about PASTE the paper.. as long as you allow it to soak the correct length of time, you don't get expansion/stretch of the paper. I see people having problems with expansion, but that comes down to not giving it enough time.
I do all sorts of papers.. PTW and PTP, my style can be the same with either.
Don't forget.. Tub paste is key too. Less water content ;)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I'm saying if you where using a normal paper I would nt really hang the other corner piece and the one next to it before hanging that 2 nd piece as it might possibly start overlapping once it s dried out.
@@davidphillips744 it shouldn't overlap when it's dried out.
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That’s fine for you a professional 😊 but a home owner doing their own , it’s miles to complicated to do x
This is an easy way ;)
Hi. So is this how you always fill in the missing piece around reveals? I’ve seen different decorators do it different ways
Various. But the less visible cuts the better.
Great video yet again mate. The Whicks paste that you use, can it be used on paste the paper and wall.
That it can.
I also use it for WallRock fibre lining.. paste the wall.
For normal (800 + etc) lining paper or normal wallpaper, you may thin it a bit to aid apply.
If the wallpaper is prepasted (you know, those that say soak in a water bath) we really thin it down, almost like a watery thin paste.
Works very well.
@Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator Thanks Phil. I will certainly be giving it a go on my next wallpapering job 👍
@@davidstanger9077 don't laff.... B&Q good home is also ok.
I used it when my local places didn't have any yellow top beeline... And hung a quality finish paper with it.
The video was a few weeks ago about placement.
Didn't have any problems
Haha, I used Good home durable matt a few weeks back which the customer had already bought and It wanst to bad, cover really well white over cream in 2 coats.
What pasting table do you use? Great Vid. 👍
Hi. Tnx.
Traditional paste table, half split down the middle so it folds and cross bar support as the 'legs'.
Had them donkeys years.
Every so often, sand down and they get a fresh coat of paint.
Your doing a good job but in my opinion you shouldn't put a but joint above a window like that because all it takes it a slight bit of moisture and it will probably curl up , a double cut when done correctly will not and shouldn't be noticeable at all, I was a painter and decorator for 38 years so I know what I'm talking about, wish you well as you are doing well
If moisture gets on that edge, it would also on any butt joint around it.
Double cuts are fine, as long as the paper suits a double cut, if the pattern mis matches through a cut it shows like a sore thumb.
It's knowing what to use where and what looks best.
Keep an eye out for future posts on Instagram and the Facebook page, you'll see some papering where the paper needed to be double cut and the reveals needed to be wrapped around due to the rounded edges on the edges.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I've retired now through ill health, some wall coverings won't double cut withought ripping as it can be like wet tissue paper, I used very thin Olfa blades for double cutting only came across them a year before I retired
Watched four minutes, and, man, do you make it unnecessarily difficult for yourself.
Do tell how you do it?
Cut through and splice it?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator English is my third language I don't know how to explain it. Just wish I could take you along for a week we do some great work here in Holland. Wallpapers, posters, pictures you name it. Out of curiosity could you name some of the top brands that are popular over there? The ones the interior designers work with typically
@@TGF120 lol
I think.most papers over here are all owned by Sandersons.
Spice a piece in mate looks far better
Talk us through that ;)