@@michelleadams474 He managed to fool them very easily by telling them how "stunning", "beautiful" and "top model" like they were ... you know, lots of flattery (whether true or not)! Many young girls and slews of grown women are taken by toads who knows that telling them what they want and/or need to hear gets them most of the time, if not all..
@@jamjohn1802.. it was a different era completely therefore he wldve bn thought of as a professional looking guy who knew his stuff .. they're young and vulnerable, innocent and wide eyed and so an easy target , yeh i can see how he trapped them plus he took most of them by force anyway
I was a nail tech in the 80’s in Boynton Beach, fl. A client and I were discussing Chris Wilder. Her and a group of friends met him in a bar and they all became friends. Said although they always went out with him as a group he would call them individually and try to get them to go out alone with him. Thankfully not any of them went. Very lucky ladies.
I find it particularly unfortunate that she was still attacked and subjected to all of that inspite of not falling for his ruse...REALLY resilient lady apparently.
She was incredibly brave in spite of her torture and sexual abuse, she managed to fool him into thinking she had been knocked out then attacked him! Wow it baffles me how she kept a clear head throughout a terrifying ordeal. Bless her heart. One amazing young woman!
RIP poor girls God bless your souls and all the innocent lost and God bless and help you families !!! And to the monster who did this if you dont get it on earth I pray you get it in hell !!
I was 16 and a photographer approached me in the city to meet him later. I told him I will bring my brother with me. He never turned up. I would never have met him alone.
You shouldn't have even considered to meet the stranger with your brother. It's easy to pull a weapon, omit your brother, and now what? Just don't go with strangers, no matter what they say.
He was a beach bum in Australia, arrived in Miami with a suitcase, became a building contractor, raced his own porsche, where did all his money come from?
It's possible that I encountered this monster. I was 19 and working at a mall in Tampa, it was 1984....March. A man approached me, telling me how beautiful I was and that I was model material. He was charming and I was not fearful. He said he wanted to take headshots. I was flattered and thought he had a studio in the mall. When he told me that we needed to go to his car, I hesitated. As a people pleaser at that young age I felt bad turning down the offer after all the compliments, but trusted my gut and did not leave the mall with him. His nice persona got quite pushy at that point. I walked away, thank GOD. No way to know for sure, but the timeline matches up.
Why are they blaming the law. Just because its his sister who died? Why not raise your voice for others. If everyone did that, the system wouldn't be so slack. But everyone just wants to do things as per their own convenience, as does the police. So i would say they suit each other.
Not just this country! America didn't lock him up in the yrs of '71-'80 after he'd committed many disgusting acts towards many women, he was arrested, but NEVER locked up and was allowed to leave the US and come bk here to commit more crimes!! So I think both countries judicial systems have a lot to answer for!!
After watching quite a number of these kidnapping, murder episodes I’ve become terrible aware that judges male and female are deviates themselves. How else could you be so, so ignorant as to let these sexual, sadistic animals loose on an unsuspecting innocent populous?
These poor siblings have lived with this all of their lives. 56 years later and theyre still prone to tears on speaking, Horrific. This case and the Beaumont Children case have both always fascinated me
@@Lionfellow yes you do. and theres plenty of people into true crime. so maybe troll on them. thanks to so many people finding cases interesting, we have forensic psychologists these days and we have innocence projects etc. so before running off your mouth, perhaps educate yourself
I’m sure he took photos of me on Dee Why beach, he wanted me to do modelling for him and to go back to his flat, I think I was about 19 and said no, he gave me his card and two photo’s that he took. When I told my parents they said no way he could be a predator.
Are you saying that your parents said that there was no way he could be a predator or no way you are going to model for him because he could be a predator?
Oh my God , whats wrong with you all !! GROW A BRAIN , HER PARENTS SAID NO WAY was she going to model for that creep , HE COULD A PREDATOR -thats what it means
I watched a documentary about the wanda beach murders a long time ago, I just watched a documentary about Christopher wilder on tv and came to UA-cam to see more about him..im shocked now to realize that these cases are connected..shocked!
I'm the exact same. I had listened to the first case file podcast about the beach murders and watched an fbi files about him yesterday . And this was recommended. Like you I'm absolutely shocked
This guy was very twisted. Very sick man. He left bodies everywhere he traveled. And there are others out there unidentified with the same twisted sickness. Waiting to be caught. It's a scary world when you stop and think about it.
Its all terrible, the stuff in america. but the saddest was the girl who refused him. she just said she wasn't interested. and he STILL somehow got her
I just found this video after watching _Monsters_ . I wondered how the young girls that survived this horrific kidnapping were doing in their adult lives. It's so terribly sad. They are very strong and I hope they know that.
Miss Grover is amazing. Well done that woman. Getting away from her monster like that. And not letting him ruin the rest of her life. Impressive and inspiring.
There are thousands of these people in jail. At one time or other they were free to indulge their sick fantasies. Just be careful. They're still out there.
Apologies accepted. I have little doubt our system in the USA hasn’t neglectfully let out criminals prematurely that eventually migrated to your country as well. All our countries need to work harder at spotting these sick people early on. I can honestly say, the very few times (once actually) I called police for help because I was abused…. The police took it extremely serious. They had him arrested within an hour.
This is not your fault honey. Sadly this happens here in America as well. Our systems are messed up as well. Often times then not Thay are let out of jail or never even go. It's horrific and unthinkable. Because these psychopaths will never stop until they are made to stop. 🤬😭 Praying for peace and love for you. 🙏
Why didn’t news media put out a public broadcast warning about this killer after 4 girls found murdered, for anyone approached by this man to do modelling, to get away and contact police.
Smaller News outlets depending on the police to give them the headlines. There was no Social Media, Internet, Cellphone 📱.. Same with the Jeffrey Dahmer...
why did he spare tina marie? it sounded like he actively chose to let her go too and not just forgot about her. i can't really believe he felt anything for anyone, he seems like a psychopath.
Because she actively helped him find victims. even though she could have used the opportunity to escape instead. I always felt there was not something quite right about her either.
Their dad had died less than 2 years prior and then their sister is murdered in such an awful, awful way? I can't believe what some people have had to deal with. The trifles that I complain about... You really need to count your blessings and make sure you let those important to you, know you appreciate them, that you value them and have kindness for others. I pray no one watching this ever goes through such horrors.
LISTENING TO THESE LADIES TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY MANAGED TO SURVIVE THAT HORRIBLE SCUMBAG IS HEARTBREAKING. BUT I DEFINITELY “ RESPECT “ THOSE LADIES.. THEY ARE SO BRAVE ... WILDER WAS NOT EVEN A MAN ... A REAL MAN WOULD NEVER HURT OR HIT A WOMAN EVER... I WAS BROUGHT UP BY MY PARENTS IF YOU EVER THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HURT A LADY “ DONT “ JUST WALK AWAY 👍🏴
He wasn't a man he was an evil predator. The 1960's & 1970" spawned an era of really sick twisted murderers in Australia, America and Britain. It was like somebody opened the gates of hell.
It’s criminal what the cops did seriously if they can’t or couldn’t be bothered to do the job properly move on leave ur job wtf it happens a lot with many serious crimes
What a disappointing end. Basically he got away with all of it. He didn't have to face justice and the victims were let down by the police and the courts !
Exactly why shows like Crime Stoppers, America’s Most Wanted, and Dateline need to be kept on the air. With what happened with Gabby Petito, if we had better police who identify abuse better, maybe we keep more women or people from dying due to domestic abuse or kidnapping.
"After 50 years, the name of the murderer is finally revealed..." It's just click bait. At the very end, they reveal that they really don't know. They suspect that he might have done it, but nothing is actually known for sure.
I think parents don,t talk to their children about the reality of life..I did with my son ..but you have to do it a lot of time ..they forget very quickly..now that he is 51 I worry just as much lol ..your a mother for ever
They lost it, they say it's been misfiled and they cannot locate the slides with the killers' semen. I have been told that all babies born in Australia are blood tested and the sample kept somewhere. Opportunity is there to obtain samples for DNA testing from any suspects, providing allowable by a court order.
The FBI agent said, that's when we had what we needed, the kidnapping charge to jump all in, wouldn't the 2 young girls that he laid on the tarpaulin and assaulted have been a kidnap case, why would they need another to jump all in?
Aww congratulations on having a baby daughter! Am sure you will be a great dad. Always tell her that adults don't need children to 'help' them with anything for example asking for help to find their cat etc. And also to trust that funny feeling in your stomach you get when something just doesn't feel right. It is never wrong. This is something I told my daughter when growing up.
@@poppyfield1619 that’s a really good point about the not needing help - like find the puppy or in fact like Myra hindley in my country used “help me find my glove”
OMG my mom grew up in Colebrook...she still has family there. I wonder if they remember this story. My mom was in California married to my dad and I was 12 years old...but my mom's parents and siblings still lived there! *My mom's name is Wanda* but we have never been to Australia. We should go there and pay respect to those lives he stole.
They're called human beings, no special beast about them, no need to blame alternative source, just look directly home (not your home, lol...just look at and blame humans as they are!).
WTF? I'm Aussie and have followed the Wanda Beach murders and have never ever heard his name connected with the case. Never! And I'm familiar with who he is too.
The photo they show of him at 34:10 is extremely chilling! You can see the evil on his face and he is hunting his next victim. He used shopping malls a lot as well. Shopping malls are a thing of the past as they no longer exist. I remember in the early to mid 1980s many teenagers would go to the mall just to meet other teenagers looking for a date. I guess Facebook is the virtual equivalent of the mall today and social media has plenty of preditors lurking as well. Again, that photo of him at 34:10 is so chilling! Absolute evil!
We still have a lot of shopping malls in the uk the one in my town is called maylords shopping centre :) I’m sure you could google where I am now so hope your not a serial killer haha
Tik Tok, Instagram Twitter are were the teenage girls go. They also have their own cell 📲📱🤳 phones. Parents should monitor their social life. Teenage pregnancy, HIV, Drug's, Bullying and peer pressure. SMH 😮
Wouldn’t it be awesome if this was finally solved , I remember wen it happened I was only a child my mum used to talk about it a lot an of course we were never allowed to go to the beach without an adult again , I think Australia lost its innocence wen this happened 💔
Take the genetic sample that was left behind and put it in the database for criminal references. Because the perpetrator was related to the boys sample. The sample was older than the bodies x now go to work
I was 13 when this was happening. This was first aired in 2018 when I was just a few weeks off 65. The first woman that spoke on this said she was a teenager in 1965 and was enthralled with the idea of modelling etc....wtf...how old is she in this? She looks to be around 45 and even then, very well preserved. How could she have been a teen in 1965?
It just amazes me that he was on the radar of the police for the Wanda Beach Murders, and they dragged their heels so long, he got away to the States. Did the NSW Police even try to get him returned, or liase with the US authorities? No! A big fat nothing! Then he comes back to Australia, and he's not even on a watch list as a person of interest. He assaults more victims, goes to court and is allowed to return to the States. Nobody apparently checked back into his background enough to have him held under suspicion of the earlier murders. It's just appalling how the Police let this monster slip through their fingers! How many lives could have been saved if this guy had been laid by the heels earlier?
except in USA (florida???) he was given bail after raping two 15 year old girls wasn't he??? (Police and Judges everywhere are too often slack, useless, negligient call it whatever)
A man approached me today on an isolated train station and I firmly shouted at him go away and leave me alone. He was shocked at my tone of voice. I was lucky that at the train station there were some rail workers and I stayed with them and told them I didn't feel safe. I had my personal alarms with me but I didn't need them, as I was lucky to have some people working in the car park. If people want train information they can use the train assistance machines they do not have to speak to a lone woman. He was pretty annoyed I told him to go away and 'wasn't a female people pleaser' and he tried to follow me a bit but was annoyed when I had some people keeping an eye on me. He could have been completely innocent but these days when men ask you things, it means they want to 'engage' and probably attack you/harrass you. At the end of the day the man is a stranger. I had Wilder in the back of my head who targetted lone women. I was quite pleased that my personal safety strategy worked
You make the made assumption that all men are the same. I have never attacked a lady and have no intention of doing so. If a lady told me to go away, id cheerfully do so Dont portray all men as evil, because we are not. Thanks. Peace
This scares me soooo much, my friend and I ditched school for the day about 11 years ago now. We were on our way to the beach and dressed so poorly getting ready to swim, a guy pulled up near us and got out of the car on the phone and offered us money to go and work for him then and there like get In the car for "boobs out" work we told him we were only 14 or 15 and he had no care, he followed us for so long before we ran off into the crowd at the beach 😬
I was approached by a business woman when I was working at Toy R Us I was 16. She said I was beautiful and that she's a model Mrg from an agency, she told me she only need to model my face. She handed me her gold business card and asked me to please call her. Yes she looked like a legit business woman. Still I never called her because I was afraid she was a sex trafficker. Or pretended to be a business woman. I'm always aware of my surrounding and smart of what people is telling me or asking me ALWAYS to this day. I never go anywhere alone without people around.
Wander was nearly 20 years earlier. We had another sicko more likely to have been the wander murderer. He tried it on another couple of kids but 1 escaped. That one got off on insanity plea.
Policing literally was created to capture escaped slaves. Policing was never, nor is it designed to protect women and children from predators or there would be a one strike policy
I was born in Cronulla 59 I remember this Wanda Beach was the north end , i remember been freaked out after a car hiding in the dunes frightened me , Anyway one fatefull night 4 years later at 14 my life changed forever
@@angelaonly7983 it does seem weird that so many serial killers are good looking, personable, a real gentleman. That's why they get away with killing for so many years.
Oh Dear God, please eradicate ALL evil beings the young the old even the babies! These innocent TRULY beautiful women are courageous beyond measure. My prayers are with them. PS: I will forever treasure and love our Aussies🌹
Having watched a good number of this type of crime stories, over a good number of years I have concluded that the ineptitude of certain national police forces starting with the most inept is as follows: Joint first: Australian and New Zealand. 3. Canadian (RCMP). 4. British and 5. U.S.
I don't think he was involved in the Wanda Beach murders as suggested in this video. There is no mounting evidence to suggest he was involved. Him being around the Cronulla area, being a surfer and being a sexual predator does not really constitute as solid evidence. Brutally murdering someone on the beach also really wasn't his style at all. He would take them away from the beach- get them to recruit other girls, keep them captive, torture them before sexually and physically assaulting them before killing them. No doubt he was involved in some horrific crimes, just i doubt the Wanda Beach murders. Sounds like a very weak connection to try and close a cold case for ratings and for the police to look less incompetent.
Absolutely. The Wanda beach murders were a frenzied attack which more suited the MO of another murderer at the time that was released for an insanity plea and went back to murdering. Police were pretty slack back then.
I completely agree. At the beginning of this documentary we were told that he had links to Wanda Beach, which intrigued me, so I continued watching. However, there was no link. All they had was that he lived in a nearby suburb. So essentially, nothing.
He doesn't come across as "attractive, charming, and charismatic" in his dating video. He seems cold, arrogant, and hostile to me.
I agree with you 100%, I don't know how he managed to fool them, but then they were very young.
@@michelleadams474 He managed to fool them very easily by telling them how "stunning", "beautiful" and "top model" like they were ... you know, lots of flattery (whether true or not)! Many young girls and slews of grown women are taken by toads who knows that telling them what they want and/or need to hear gets them most of the time, if not all..
@@jamjohn1802 Yes I agree with you. He preyed on their vulnerabilities and innocence.
@@jamjohn1802.. it was a different era completely therefore he wldve bn thought of as a professional looking guy who knew his stuff .. they're young and vulnerable, innocent and wide eyed and so an easy target , yeh i can see how he trapped them plus he took most of them by force anyway
Yep. All I saw was a creepy balding middle aged man who came across as full of himself and flat emotions.
I was a nail tech in the 80’s in Boynton Beach, fl. A client and I were discussing Chris Wilder. Her and a group of friends met him in a bar and they all became friends. Said although they always went out with him as a group he would call them individually and try to get them to go out alone with him. Thankfully not any of them went. Very lucky ladies.
The dissatisfaction of knowing that he did not suffer in jail
I dont believe they suffer in jail, they just readjust their lives, Waste of money maintaining them.
@@26TptCoy I totally agree.
@@26TptCoy damn
That's not the role of prisons. The satisfaction he will not make more victims.
This woman Linda Grover was very brave and smart to try to gouge his eyes out in an effort to save her life.
I find it particularly unfortunate that she was still attacked and subjected to all of that inspite of not falling for his ruse...REALLY resilient lady apparently.
She was incredibly brave in spite of her torture and sexual abuse, she managed to fool him into thinking she had been knocked out then attacked him! Wow it baffles me how she kept a clear head throughout a terrifying ordeal. Bless her heart. One amazing young woman!
RIP those two innocent sweet 15 year old girls - so tragic. Also all the victims known and unknown of this monster.
Im guessing he is responsible for many more than is linked to him.
Pure evil ! Unimaginable . Poor victims
@@galactdroid4421 Ikr!?
@@antoniafaheerty6980 He traveled to many countries. Especially here in the USA..in the 1980's.
RIP poor girls God bless your souls and all the innocent lost and God bless and help you families !!! And to the monster who did this if you dont get it on earth I pray you get it in hell !!
That Australian judge that let him free on bail has blood on his hands.
@MurkedlikeJ wow Einstein how long did it take to come up with this dumb as a box of rocks comment?
Not to mention lawyers who represented him.
@MurkedlikeJ I don’t even know where to begin with your stupidity.
@MurkedlikeJ WTF 😒😑
Absolutely
One good reason why people take matters into their own hands
That's you in your profile picture
Exactly
and in a lot of cases should be legal
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 why wouldn’t it be her?
Absolutely sickening how he was able to go on and on.
I was 16 and a photographer approached me in the city to meet him later. I told him I will bring my brother with me. He never turned up. I would never have met him alone.
Smart 🤓 move. He's no photographer. Rapist... Glad you said what you did. Other girls may have not been so fortunate.
You shouldn't have even considered to meet the stranger with your brother. It's easy to pull a weapon, omit your brother, and now what? Just don't go with strangers, no matter what they say.
Always meet in a public place. Leave info of where you're meeting and who it is. As much info as you can. Safety first !
He was a beach bum in Australia, arrived in Miami with a suitcase, became a building contractor, raced his own porsche, where did all his money come from?
@Brian Jones Was that real estate given to him or did he buy it?
There is a book called the pretty girl killer. It's about this
Good question. I'd like to know too.
Probably made friends with the right people??
Good question!! Maybe he knew some wealthy people in high places? A judge for example??
It's possible that I encountered this monster. I was 19 and working at a mall in Tampa, it was 1984....March. A man approached me, telling me how beautiful I was and that I was model material. He was charming and I was not fearful. He said he wanted to take headshots. I was flattered and thought he had a studio in the mall. When he told me that we needed to go to his car, I hesitated. As a people pleaser at that young age I felt bad turning down the offer after all the compliments, but trusted my gut and did not leave the mall with him. His nice persona got quite pushy at that point. I walked away, thank GOD. No way to know for sure, but the timeline matches up.
Is Tampa near Cronulla?
@@ellenmcaleese7004 theres no tampa in australia do must be the US
Thanks for clarifying Annette. Frightening that this man was able to harm people across two continents.
@@ellenmcaleese7004 the perp escato the USA
All these young girls were let down by the police and the court system who were supposed to protect them
What are you on about?
The judicial system doesn’t work, no matter the country
Oh law * constitutional lawyer
It only works for Democrats
Why are they blaming the law. Just because its his sister who died? Why not raise your voice for others. If everyone did that, the system wouldn't be so slack. But everyone just wants to do things as per their own convenience, as does the police. So i would say they suit each other.
The Australian police involved should be held responsible for letting him go.
BINGO-----100% RESPONSIBLE!!!!!
PERIOD
Were they ever held responsible?
I doubt it
It was the judge not the police
The eyes are the window of the soul, that's not madness that's evil.
Wow Australia, they gave him back his passport whilst he was on bond? Why did they even do that?
I'm confused as well about this. Only the judge can explain this one
Bc we have some horrible judges.. really putrid people
Same reason the US judge let him leave the USA for Australia. Stupidity.
And his own parents in Australia bailed him out allowing him to return to America.
@@SamStone1964 terrible parents
The courts of this country have a lot to answer for.
This⬆️
Courts don’t care if they messed up , same with law enforcement, they are above the law
Not just this country!
America didn't lock him up in the yrs of '71-'80 after he'd committed many disgusting acts towards many women, he was arrested, but NEVER locked up and was allowed to leave the US and come bk here to commit more crimes!! So I think both countries judicial systems have a lot to answer for!!
After watching quite a number of these kidnapping, murder episodes I’ve become terrible aware that judges male and female are deviates themselves. How else could you be so, so ignorant as to let these sexual, sadistic animals loose on an unsuspecting innocent populous?
Deviates or members of secret societies (or both).
Yep, l think the judges in this case probably fancied this guy.
These poor siblings have lived with this all of their lives. 56 years later and theyre still prone to tears on speaking, Horrific. This case and the Beaumont Children case have both always fascinated me
Fascinates you?
Not mortified? .. 😯
Derek Percy is more likely to be the murderer of the Wanda Beach girls and the Beaumont children as well as 5 other child murders.
Oh you both know what she means! 🙄🙄
@@Lionfellow Grow up
@@Lionfellow yes you do. and theres plenty of people into true crime. so maybe troll on them. thanks to so many people finding cases interesting, we have forensic psychologists these days and we have innocence projects etc. so before running off your mouth, perhaps educate yourself
Name the judge and defence lawyers who let this guy go free
It would be in the court transcripts
Google it😜
Google it😜
They'd be gone now. This is 50 years old. The Wanda murders nearly 60.
It's in my book The Snapshot Killer.
What is wrong with the Australian police.... they are time and time again totally incompetent!!!!
So many lives could have been saved had they acted.
Well their is Daniel Andrews a serial killer on the run controlling everyone in Victoria and costing people’s lives since 2014 like Apex Gang
@@patrickbateman6885 Gold!
I’ve heard that about them before . Idk what Is wrong
Yep. Pre 1996 nsw police were the 3rd most corrupt police force in the world behind Hong Kong and Los Angeles police forces
I’m sure he took photos of me on Dee Why beach, he wanted me to do modelling for him and to go back to his flat, I think I was about 19 and said no, he gave me his card and two photo’s that he took. When I told my parents they said no way he could be a predator.
@Bobby Friday No I must have thrown it away, I only have one photo he took. Yes I had really good wise parents👍🏻
Are you saying that your parents said that there was no way he could be a predator or no way you are going to model for him because he could be a predator?
@@leannmeddings4068 - saying my parents said no way was I allowed to.
comma after "no way" solves the confusion of what your parents meant :-)
Oh my God , whats wrong with you all !! GROW A BRAIN , HER PARENTS SAID NO WAY was she going to model for that creep , HE COULD A PREDATOR -thats what it means
I watched a documentary about the wanda beach murders a long time ago, I just watched a documentary about Christopher wilder on tv and came to UA-cam to see more about him..im shocked now to realize that these cases are connected..shocked!
I'm the exact same. I had listened to the first case file podcast about the beach murders and watched an fbi files about him yesterday . And this was recommended. Like you I'm absolutely shocked
I agree, I've known the 2 cases separately for years... I'm not sure about them being connected yet. First I've heard of it.
@@alysononoahu8702 the connection is speculative
This guy was very twisted. Very sick man. He left bodies everywhere he traveled. And there are others out there unidentified with the same twisted sickness. Waiting to be caught. It's a scary world when you stop and think about it.
@Andrew_koala you don't have many friends, do you!?!
Its all terrible, the stuff in america. but the saddest was the girl who refused him. she just said she wasn't interested. and he STILL somehow got her
I can't be the only one noticing how the lady at 14:21 has her eyes wide open? She does it for most of the interview and it really freaks me out.
Lol you're looking at a bad facelift or some other botched cosmetic surgery. A lot of women in Flori-duh have more money than sense.
Now that you mention it, yeah, kinda creepy😞
Linda, you are amazing! I'm so happy you survived this! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I just found this video after watching _Monsters_ .
I wondered how the young girls that survived this horrific kidnapping were doing in their adult lives.
It's so terribly sad. They are very strong and I hope they know that.
Probably in their 50's or Early 60's .. with grown children.
@@gigigiseleworld Probably so . Thank you Gigi .
🧡 🎃🧡
It's all screwed up Victims stay victims
Miss Grover is amazing. Well done that woman. Getting away from her monster like that. And not letting him ruin the rest of her life. Impressive and inspiring.
Police in both countries were incompetent to deal with these committed killers back then
Thats very true.
I think it was he idiotic judges who let him go free both times
The Australian police probably never even bothered to tell the American police about wilder it wouldn't surprise me
There are thousands of these people in jail. At one time or other they were free to indulge their sick fantasies. Just be careful. They're still out there.
I'm a simple man... I see True Crime Daily and I click. I think I'm addicted lol
This isn't true crime daily
@@Brandon-rq3ys Oops true stories sorry mate
Anthony Traver
If you want to no more about him just let me no he Wes my uncle I’m Related to Christopher wilde
@@anthonytraver8037 Okay, well what made him like that. Was he ever normal.?
Anthony Traver- - I'm sorry..
No one alive KNOWS who his first victims were!!!
Exactly.
Apologies to our American family on behalf of Australia .. our judicial system let us both down 🙏🏻🇦🇺🇺🇸😔
Same here in canada
Apologies accepted.
I have little doubt our system in the USA hasn’t neglectfully let out criminals prematurely that eventually migrated to your country as well.
All our countries need to work harder at spotting these sick people early on.
I can honestly say, the very few times (once actually) I called police for help because I was abused…. The police took it extremely serious. They had him arrested within an hour.
And still does
This is not your fault honey.
Sadly this happens here in America as well.
Our systems are messed up as well.
Often times then not Thay are let out of jail or never even go.
It's horrific and unthinkable. Because these psychopaths will never stop until they are made to stop. 🤬😭 Praying for peace and love for you. 🙏
Same applies to American court system
Why didn’t news media put out a public broadcast warning about this killer after 4 girls found murdered, for anyone approached by this man to do modelling, to get away and contact police.
Smaller News outlets depending on the police to give them the headlines. There was no Social Media, Internet, Cellphone 📱.. Same with the Jeffrey Dahmer...
@@gigigiseleworld ok
I was 10 in Sydney when that happened. I’ve been to Wanda beach a few times, especially before the murders.
My old playground in the 60's & 70's.
I went to the same high school, epping
why did he spare tina marie? it sounded like he actively chose to let her go too and not just forgot about her. i can't really believe he felt anything for anyone, he seems like a psychopath.
Because she actively helped him find victims. even though she could have used the opportunity to escape instead. I always felt there was not something quite right about her either.
@@evangelene12
I agree.
he wanted for her to write a. book about it. he probably told her his life story during the 6days he kidnapped her
@@evangelene12 she was a sexual abuse victim. She knew about predators
for a auzzie he has no accent... this dude was a thrill killing crazy pyscho.. you can see it in his eyes.
Sure can see it in his eyes. Dark and evil.
Yes he has no accent
His accent sounds american to me.
He had lived in America too.
I know someone with these droopy eyes, not in touch with him any more :-/
It's like this guy was given the keys to the world to do what do you want
Good for you Linda. Words to live by...
Their dad had died less than 2 years prior and then their sister is murdered in such an awful, awful way? I can't believe what some people have had to deal with. The trifles that I complain about... You really need to count your blessings and make sure you let those important to you, know you appreciate them, that you value them and have kindness for others. I pray no one watching this ever goes through such horrors.
LISTENING TO THESE LADIES TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY MANAGED TO SURVIVE THAT HORRIBLE SCUMBAG IS HEARTBREAKING. BUT I DEFINITELY “ RESPECT “ THOSE LADIES.. THEY ARE SO BRAVE ... WILDER WAS NOT EVEN A MAN ... A REAL MAN WOULD NEVER HURT OR HIT A WOMAN EVER... I WAS BROUGHT UP BY MY PARENTS IF YOU EVER THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HURT A LADY “ DONT “ JUST WALK AWAY 👍🏴
He wasn't a man he was an evil predator. The 1960's & 1970" spawned an era of really sick twisted murderers in Australia, America and Britain. It was like somebody opened the gates of hell.
@@cincin4515 you make a good few points 👍🏴
well said. They were brave, it is a shame that misogyny can be so dangerous to women
It’s criminal what the cops did seriously if they can’t or couldn’t be bothered to do the job properly move on leave ur job wtf it happens a lot with many serious crimes
True
What a disappointing end. Basically he got away with all of it. He didn't have to face justice and the victims were let down by the police and the courts !
@Andrew_koala No moron, both are fine.
@Andrew_koala oh the English literature checker loose in the comments again?
@andrew_koala2974 CALM DOWN keyboard warrior!
Exactly why shows like Crime Stoppers, America’s Most Wanted, and Dateline need to be kept on the air. With what happened with Gabby Petito, if we had better police who identify abuse better, maybe we keep more women or people from dying due to domestic abuse or kidnapping.
"After 50 years, the name of the murderer is finally revealed..."
It's just click bait.
At the very end,
they reveal that they really don't know.
They suspect that he might have done it,
but nothing is actually known for sure.
The title of the video doesn’t say anything even close to that so I’m confused how it’s click bait 🤔
@@RaRa-oj4xx Read the description
@@RaRa-oj4xx what are you on about read the description it totally seems they are saying he done it!!!
There was a lot of predators back then. It could've been anyone. That was my beach growing up in the 60"s & 70's.
I think parents don,t talk to their children about the reality of life..I did with my son ..but you have to do it a lot of time ..they forget very quickly..now that he is 51 I worry just as much lol ..your a mother for ever
Why has the DNA not been tested?
They lost it, they say it's been misfiled and they cannot locate the slides with the killers' semen. I have been told that all babies born in Australia are blood tested and the sample kept somewhere. Opportunity is there to obtain samples for DNA testing from any suspects, providing allowable by a court order.
50 year old case. There wasn't DNA testing back then.
Never heard of this man 👨 what a monster 👾
Big in the 1980's... Except the 1980's had them all across the Country..
The FBI agent said, that's when we had what we needed, the kidnapping charge to jump all in, wouldn't the 2 young girls that he laid on the tarpaulin and assaulted have been a kidnap case, why would they need another to jump all in?
Terrifying watching this sort a stuff being a new dad of a babygirl makes feel So uneasy personally)0(
Bless them PoorKid's
let me ask you if you would let your daughter go off with a strange man for $100?? Just be a good parent and you have nothing to worry about
Aww congratulations on having a baby daughter! Am sure you will be a great dad. Always tell her that adults don't need children to 'help' them with anything for example asking for help to find their cat etc. And also to trust that funny feeling in your stomach you get when something just doesn't feel right. It is never wrong. This is something I told my daughter when growing up.
@@poppyfield1619 that’s a really good point about the not needing help - like find the puppy or in fact like Myra hindley in my country used “help me find my glove”
@@Jolenesmart1980 I live in the UK too! X
@@poppyfield1619 Ah cool I’m in the midlands - Hereford :)
OMG my mom grew up in Colebrook...she still has family there. I wonder if they remember this story. My mom was in California married to my dad and I was 12 years old...but my mom's parents and siblings still lived there!
*My mom's name is Wanda* but we have never been to Australia. We should go there and pay respect to those lives he stole.
That he nice to go pay respec us .. What a wonderful gesture .. If you do get the chance record it and put upload vid on youtube plz
OMG I live in Australia, have driven past Wanda Beach and I've seen "A fish called Wanda". What a coincidence..
@@angelaryan2104 I have an Aunty Wanda and Ive watched a Fish Called Wanda 😆
Why hasn't the judge that changed his bail been arrested he obviously knew him or was paid
Agree, paid I think.
There's lots of killer's just like this one in the world God bless all victims
seems like there is an awful large majority of them in the US .. America seems to just breed serial killers compared to the rest of the world
Hmm 🤔 5% is what “we” breed while other countries are at 10%. Funny most of us don’t even think about murdering and DON’T 😮anytime in our life.
@@Ikrell-Laires hey this is an Australian serial killer. But yeah America sure has a lot of them.
Wow, Go Linda. What a horrible ordeal, rip to the victims.
There are beasts roaming the Earth, they wear human skin and speak our words.
Hello
@@BluFlame231 LOL
They're called human beings, no special beast about them, no need to blame alternative source, just look directly home (not your home, lol...just look at and blame humans as they are!).
WTF? I'm Aussie and have followed the Wanda Beach murders and have never ever heard his name connected with the case. Never! And I'm familiar with who he is too.
I doubt it was him. The wander murderers were years earlier. More the work of Derek Percy.
@@cincin4515 nope Derek Percy was more of a child killer . His victims were all way younger
The photo they show of him at 34:10 is extremely chilling! You can see the evil on his face and he is hunting his next victim. He used shopping malls a lot as well. Shopping malls are a thing of the past as they no longer exist. I remember in the early to mid 1980s many teenagers would go to the mall just to meet other teenagers looking for a date. I guess Facebook is the virtual equivalent of the mall today and social media has plenty of preditors lurking as well. Again, that photo of him at 34:10 is so chilling! Absolute evil!
I thought so too. But dude, shopping malls are everywhere, even in little towns
We still have a lot of shopping malls in the uk the one in my town is called maylords shopping centre :) I’m sure you could google where I am now so hope your not a serial killer haha
Tik Tok, Instagram Twitter are were the teenage girls go. They also have their own cell 📲📱🤳 phones. Parents should monitor their social life. Teenage pregnancy, HIV, Drug's, Bullying and peer pressure. SMH 😮
Malls still exist in the USA. Cheaper to sell online... Pro's and cons..
Lots of shopping malls. Cronulla near Wanda is one big plaza where the main drag once was.
Wouldn’t it be awesome if this was finally solved , I remember wen it happened I was only a child my mum used to talk about it a lot an of course we were never allowed to go to the beach without an adult again , I think Australia lost its innocence wen this happened 💔
We’re did he get money from to keep going back and forth from Australia to America…. ????
Take the genetic sample that was left behind and put it in the database for criminal references. Because the perpetrator was related to the boys sample. The sample was older than the bodies x now go to work
Attractive? I worked next to a girl at 18 who was approached to be a model...she was gorgeous. Thank God she didn't believe him.
The courts let him go...that's becoming an all too frequent occurrence in this country.
Even in America, Canada and Great Britian. SMH
The courts dont do enough to protect kids and women. It's sickening
I was 13 when this was happening. This was first aired in 2018 when I was just a few weeks off 65.
The first woman that spoke on this said she was a teenager in 1965 and was enthralled with the idea of modelling etc....wtf...how old is she in this? She looks to be around 45 and even then, very well preserved. How could she have been a teen in 1965?
Doesn’t add up
If you are referring to the incident where the 16 year old girl got into his car at Manly Beach Sydney, they said it was 7 December 1982.
Yes. I thought the same thing. I was 4 when the wander murders happened yet she looks 25 years younger than me.
It just amazes me that he was on the radar of the police for the Wanda Beach Murders, and they dragged their heels so long, he got away to the States. Did the NSW Police even try to get him returned, or liase with the US authorities? No! A big fat nothing! Then he comes back to Australia, and he's not even on a watch list as a person of interest. He assaults more victims, goes to court and is allowed to return to the States. Nobody apparently checked back into his background enough to have him held under suspicion of the earlier murders. It's just appalling how the Police let this monster slip through their fingers! How many lives could have been saved if this guy had been laid by the heels earlier?
What exactly are they waiting for.... for them to test themselves...? Seriously there seems to be no good excuse
I know man, it's total BS. Frustrating as hell.
In America he would get 100 years, in Australia he got bail lol
except in USA (florida???) he was given bail after raping two 15 year old girls wasn't he??? (Police and Judges everywhere are too often slack, useless, negligient call it whatever)
Yep u got it.. common to get 6 years for killing ur girlfriend
A man approached me today on an isolated train station and I firmly shouted at him go away and leave me alone. He was shocked at my tone of voice. I was lucky that at the train station there were some rail workers and I stayed with them and told them I didn't feel safe. I had my personal alarms with me but I didn't need them, as I was lucky to have some people working in the car park. If people want train information they can use the train assistance machines they do not have to speak to a lone woman. He was pretty annoyed I told him to go away and 'wasn't a female people pleaser' and he tried to follow me a bit but was annoyed when I had some people keeping an eye on me. He could have been completely innocent but these days when men ask you things, it means they want to 'engage' and probably attack you/harrass you. At the end of the day the man is a stranger. I had Wilder in the back of my head who targetted lone women. I was quite pleased that my personal safety strategy worked
You make the made assumption that all men are the same.
I have never attacked a lady and have no intention of doing so. If a lady told me to go away, id cheerfully do so
Dont portray all men as evil, because we are not.
Thanks.
Peace
@@davidlockett6781 She should and we women all should make that same assumption. Better to be safe than sorry.
@@TheRhNegative Innocent until proven guilty
When I heard he super glued her eyes shut I nearly fell of the chair.
YES he's gone, that's so good to hear.
Would like to have seen him in prison being Bubbas blow-up doll😜
such Evil without self control what so ever
This scares me soooo much, my friend and I ditched school for the day about 11 years ago now.
We were on our way to the beach and dressed so poorly getting ready to swim, a guy pulled up near us and got out of the car on the phone and offered us money to go and work for him then and there like get In the car for "boobs out" work we told him we were only 14 or 15 and he had no care, he followed us for so long before we ran off into the crowd at the beach 😬
I'm so sorry you had to experience something so scary at such a young age. Lucky there was a crowd to run into!
Wow how brave Linda was good idea to try and gouge his eyes, how the he'll did he get away with bringing he in in a sleeping bag and wasn't seen.
I was approached by a business woman when I was working at Toy R Us I was 16. She said I was beautiful and that she's a model Mrg from an agency, she told me she only need to model my face. She handed me her gold business card and asked me to please call her. Yes she looked like a legit business woman. Still I never called her because I was afraid she was a sex trafficker. Or pretended to be a business woman. I'm always aware of my surrounding and smart of what people is telling me or asking me ALWAYS to this day. I never go anywhere alone without people around.
Giggling and saying “we’re going mad”? Sounds like they might have been experimenting with shrooms. They’ve been known to cause the giggles
His eyes would frighten you off
I'm wondering... did they ever run the DNA on the unsolved beach murder? Anybody know?
32:00 oh god bad choice of words after he glued her eyes - we showed her a photo line up she didn’t bat an eye 👁 🤦🏼♀️
I knew about both the Australian and U.S. murders separately, but the connection is illuminating.
During those days why the Police had overseen the Red Flag right away...Same things happens in Wanda beach happens in Florida ...Unreal
Wander was nearly 20 years earlier. We had another sicko more likely to have been the wander murderer. He tried it on another couple of kids but 1 escaped. That one got off on insanity plea.
I'm absolutely over hearing about police bungling. It's present in nearly EVERY crime investigation.
Policing literally was created to capture escaped slaves. Policing was never, nor is it designed to protect women and children from predators or there would be a one strike policy
I was born in Cronulla 59 I remember this Wanda Beach was the north end , i remember been freaked out after a car hiding in the dunes frightened me , Anyway one fatefull night 4 years later at 14 my life changed forever
Terrible police work in NSW Australia. In those days cops had no idea about the serial killer. Wilder lived in the close proximity of the Wanda beach.
What a devil and a murderer who was a coward when he took his own life when he knew he was caught by the police 👮♀️
Wow what a story
'Good looking'?
Does it matter?
What does a killer like?
@@darkeststar3640 like a person:), usually. I was just wondering why they kept mentioning how good looking he was. Subjective, I suppose.
@@angelaonly7983 it does seem weird that so many serial killers are good looking, personable, a real gentleman. That's why they get away with killing for so many years.
Just Sandra : Yes, it's odd that they kept referring to him as 'good looking'. I thought he was uglier than a box of hammers.
Oh Dear God, please eradicate ALL evil beings the young the old even the babies! These innocent TRULY beautiful women are courageous beyond measure. My prayers are with them.
PS: I will forever treasure and love our Aussies🌹
GOD WiLL DO IT REAL SOON 🙏🙏🙏
It’s not madnesses, not evil, it’s solely abuse, the world needs more education, enough. It has to stop, NOW.
Grow up.
Unbelievable!
Linda, my girl, you're an absolute badass!
After escaping to the US how could he just waltzes back in to Australia
It is unbelievable!
When you go through the pass port isle. They don't run warrant check's ..
I thought her eyes were superglued shut. The actress’s eyes were wide open. Glad she survived though. Bravo!
♥️ to Linda
Rodney Alcala who just died, played the photography card as well.
You can see the Evil in his eyes. 👹
Let him go. Great idea. Someone has this on their conscience.
Having watched a good number of this type of crime stories, over a good number of years I have concluded that the ineptitude of certain national police forces starting with the most inept is as follows: Joint first: Australian and New Zealand. 3. Canadian (RCMP). 4. British and 5. U.S.
This man can't be described with any other word but evil.
Very interesting case, but unfortunately unbearable noise in the background all the time. Just crazy!
I don't think he was involved in the Wanda Beach murders as suggested in this video. There is no mounting evidence to suggest he was involved. Him being around the Cronulla area, being a surfer and being a sexual predator does not really constitute as solid evidence. Brutally murdering someone on the beach also really wasn't his style at all. He would take them away from the beach- get them to recruit other girls, keep them captive, torture them before sexually and physically assaulting them before killing them. No doubt he was involved in some horrific crimes, just i doubt the Wanda Beach murders. Sounds like a very weak
connection to try and close a cold case for ratings and for the police to look less incompetent.
Absolutely. The Wanda beach murders were a frenzied attack which more suited the MO of another murderer at the time that was released for an insanity plea and went back to murdering. Police were pretty slack back then.
I completely agree. At the beginning of this documentary we were told that he had links to Wanda Beach, which intrigued me, so I continued watching. However, there was no link. All they had was that he lived in a nearby suburb. So essentially, nothing.
I'm convinced Derek Percy should be investigated.
Congratulations Australian justice system you just created a Monster
31:14 should of ran out the front door , duh