Jewish Self-Defense and Legal Status in Early Ashkenaz

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  • @anubisfire5402
    @anubisfire5402 Рік тому +3

    I love all of Abramson's lectures. He has a lot of faith in people to be respectful in UA-cam comments.

  • @PDM1967
    @PDM1967 Рік тому +9

    He’s from Canada so I think we can guess what his views on the topic are.
    The right to bear arms (gun ownership in particular) is not that controversial in the Orthodox Jewish community. After the Supreme Court’s Bruen decision states with the largest Jewish populations - NY, NJ, CA etc - now must grant carry permits. Ever increasing numbers of Jews are availing themselves of that right.

    • @GilesMcRiker
      @GilesMcRiker Рік тому

      Then again he's from a rural town which tend to be more pro-gun, even in Canada

    • @mordechaistein
      @mordechaistein Рік тому

      ​@@GilesMcRiker Not so sure - 9:02

  • @alg11297
    @alg11297 Рік тому +3

    As a native New Yorker, I seem to recall that in early NYC history, the Jews were forbidden to bear arms and serve as guards to protect the city. Instead they were required to pay a tax that was supposed to go for that service. One Jew wrote to the powers that be in England and demanded his right as a citizen to be able to serve the community in such a way. It was granted and I think there is a statute to him as well as a h.s. bearing his name. I'm tempted to say Asher Lev but I'm sure that's wrong.

  • @brandonmass3787
    @brandonmass3787 Рік тому +12

    UA-cam put a hate group in my recommended videos after I clicked on this, I find that very disturbing.

    • @dcguy3
      @dcguy3 Рік тому +1

      Wait, what?

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx Рік тому +2

      which group

    • @clicheguevara5282
      @clicheguevara5282 Рік тому +2

      So don't watch it. Problem solved.
      Also, I HIGHLY doubt that in the sanitized and AI-censored version of UA-cam that we have in 2023, there was an _actual_ hate group recommended to you. Lol

    • @mattnewhouse1781
      @mattnewhouse1781 Рік тому +1

      You know we are going to ask which group? Why not just tell us before we waste time asking?

    • @brandonmass3787
      @brandonmass3787 Рік тому

      @@clicheguevara5282 I didn't watch it, I was repulsed by the title and username. But it was clearly an anti-Semitic agenda being promoted. Sorry, I can't remember what it said. I like your clever username, by the way!

  • @GilmerJohn
    @GilmerJohn Рік тому +4

    Well, I wonder what the good professor's views are about arms in the 21st Century.

  • @zdzislawmeglicki2262
    @zdzislawmeglicki2262 Рік тому +2

    Interesting. But what about Jews who lived in Moslem lands, including Spain, at the time? Did they have the right to bear arms?

  • @laurenannkattner7030
    @laurenannkattner7030 Рік тому

    I too am an histirian. I totally agree on the importance of examining the historical contexts.

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc Рік тому +2

    Just out of curiosity what's that little piano tune called? I hear it all over the place.

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 Рік тому +1

    Gevaltig!!
    Where would I find the Ohr Zarua ?

  • @stubronstein9932
    @stubronstein9932 Рік тому +1

    Waited all video for the recipe.

  • @yura3826
    @yura3826 Рік тому +1

    Dear Dr. Abramson,
    Following a conversation with a friend,
    I would really appreciate it, if you could make a lecture,
    Or at least a send me a short answer here,
    Concerning the estimation of Jewish lives lost during the exile due to persecutions and so on.
    That is between the second temple's destruction and the holocaust.
    I claimed that the exile was horrific, and my friend says that between those two events it wasn’t all that bad for Jews, except for a pogrom here and there and so on.
    I read that the romans killed about 580,000 during the last rebellion,
    And we are taught that in the holocaust, about 6,000,000 were killed.
    What happened in between?
    For instance, if one can know how many jews lived in the world during the crusades, and how many were killed by crusaders…
    Well, you see my point, and I am sure you will know how to answer my vague question in the best way possible.
    Many many many thanks in advance.

  • @bobbi5523
    @bobbi5523 Рік тому +2

    Loved it!

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Рік тому

      I'm glad that you enjoyed the class!
      Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @Jsmith2024
    @Jsmith2024 Рік тому +2

    Fascinating!

  • @elaneradim6117
    @elaneradim6117 Рік тому +1

    THANK YOU

  • @---tx9xx
    @---tx9xx Рік тому +2

    you obviously noted that I want expressive you have a strong wind and at the end expressed yourself for saying that that doesn't mean that this "noxious" view is acceptable in Marion American society but you had just enumerating times both when ages were allowed to exercise their right to bear arms and legs denigrated and this right was taken away from them so it's not clear exactly to me at least if the "noches" you that you're referring to is the idea that Jews should be allowed to their arms or what is nauseous is the denial of the truck today anyway. Denial of this right to them anyway. OK so now I tried to use voice dictation over And I see that that did not come out better oh well I have to wait time at a keyboard

  • @bingeltube
    @bingeltube Рік тому +3

    Hello Henry, you are wondering about the first name Guido. Let me assure you this is a very typical/common German first name, but I do not know how long its use goes back in history.

    • @mikev4621
      @mikev4621 Рік тому +1

      Guido was Guy Fawke's real name ( Spanish )

    • @bingeltube
      @bingeltube Рік тому

      @@mikev4621 what is your real name Guido?

  • @dobishs
    @dobishs Рік тому

    What is the jew holding on the first picture?

  • @warriortokarev
    @warriortokarev Рік тому +2

    I wanna know his opinion so bad

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 Рік тому

    I was doing some research on רבינו יצחק מוינה the author of the אור זרוע this chol hamoed . And it seems he had a number of teachers. Besides being counted as one of the חסידי אשכנז and studied under רבינו יהודה החסיד in Regensburg , and the ראבי״ה in Bonn .Also under רבינו שמחה in Speyer . He also studied in France by R’ Shamshon of Coucy known as the ש״ר מקוצי .
    And this is what he writes in his sefer;
    וכשהייתי אני המחבר בצרפת היינו מוליכים אופנים על הבגדים כי כן גזרו על כל היהודים בעת ההיא וזהו כמו חותם שעשה לו רבו דלא שקיל ליה ואי מיפסיק לא מייתי ליה והיינו יוצאים בהם לרה"ר ויש שהיו תפורים בבגד לגמרי והנהו שרי כדאמרי' גבי זוג שבכסותו הב"ע [דמיחא] ביה מימחא ויש שהיו עושין אופן מן הקלף ותופרין אותו במחט לבגד ויוצאים בו בשבת וזהו כמו חותם העבד שעשה לו רבו דשרי הואיל ויוצא בו כל ימות השבוע. ומודי ה"ר שמשון מכוסי זצ"ל הי' דן להתיר מפני שהאופנים מחוברים לכסות כדאמ' בירושלמי דפרקין בעון קומי ר' יונתן מהו מיפק בההוא מונקייה א"ל משום תכשיט אי משום תכשיט הי' לו לדניאל לאסור והמניכא די דהבא על צואריה אי משום משוי [בשבת] נימר כל המחובר לכסות הרי הוא ככסות. הא למדת דאפי' דבר שהוא משוי כשהוא מחובר לכסות מותר לצאת בו
    (אור זרוע חלק ב׳ סי פ״ד)
    This must’ve been after the Four Lateran council of 1213 . And it’s quite obvious that only in France where he studied was the yellow badge in-forced . He had a discussion of why one may wear the אופן or wheel on the Shabbat and not considered carrying. Interesting is how his reasoning is to compare it to a badge of a slave that will not remove it . See the sugya in shabbat .
    But his Rebbe the שר מקוצי gives him a different reason.

  • @savi6915
    @savi6915 Рік тому +1

    Guido..so Italian Jewish..🙂

  • @davidgrossman7965
    @davidgrossman7965 Рік тому

    But if you don't learn from the past, what's being a historian worth

  • @---tx9xx
    @---tx9xx Рік тому

    this is in response to your sota 38on alldaf as im not sure how else to contact you. sorry for short thping im poor at thping on a phone ni keyboard but did t wamt to wait until later. re U of Babylon article i checked it out as i am an arabic speaker n reader, and that article in original is actually wrottem in Hebrew! apparently the Arabic researchers write in that journal in their Hebrew (which is actually pretty impressive, not too off) in a topic of hebrew relevance. i had seen this is hebrew faculties in egypt but iraq wow. amyway heres the original article, the part about birta deschorei is near the end יישר כח
    and as regards this article yes of course we all have a G-d gjven right to bear ar,s amd to self defense, unfortunately not always recognkzed by the state pf israel but this is ,amy ti,es even more important to imtermaloze as jews as a tnreatemed minoroty anroad in the US. first thing ger,any eyc always dod was disarm the jews etc. the plishtim also has "arms controll in 5e days of the shoftim and david, liron control" ;) but i digress, you alsp in the vid couldnt resist noting hou have strong views :)
    here is the article link. I can assure you that when I have access to a regular keyboard I can type more eloquently.
    www.iasj.net/iasj/download/a917446cb0cfb40b

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx Рік тому

      if i turn on autocorrect though i cant wite any hebrew terms at all thiugh

  • @mikev4621
    @mikev4621 Рік тому

    Is the first hooded figure a nun?

  • @321ssteeeeeve
    @321ssteeeeeve Рік тому

    Not Jewish, however I serve the same true G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I often wonder the views of the 2A from a Kabbalistic perspective. They are after all a good method for providing a source of food in times of crisis.

  • @---tx9xx
    @---tx9xx Рік тому

    עוד ציטוטים מהמאמר בעניינו
    ״השם '' בירתא '' כמרכיב מעיד על יישוב במצודה קטנה המרחוק מן האזור המיושב אמנם התלמוד מזכיר את החכם רב שימ י מבירתא דשיחורי וכנראה היתה ביישוב זה קהילה יהודית מאורגנת אולם יישובים אחרים זכו בשמות לגנאי ) בירתא דנידה בירתא דסטיא ( אלה היו כנראה יישובים ספר במצודות 22קטנות מנותקים מחיי הדת
    והמוסר של היהודי״
    בתגובה לתהייתך בסוף הסרטון של סוטה ל״ח ביתא דסטיא זה זם גנאי על שם ״מצודה של סטייה״ כלומר סוטים מדרך ישר. דנידה כלומר של נידה לשון נידוי. החוקר העיראקי דווקא כותב בעברית אקדמית ךא רעה בכלל בהתחשב בזה שהוא מעולם בטח לא פגש בדובר עברית.
    ולגבי הסרטון זה ההשקפה ה״מבחילה״ היא כמובן הרעיון שיש באיזה אופן למנוע מיהודים לשאת נשק באופן חופשי. שבוע טוב עלה והצליח

  • @alwaystrustinthelordone
    @alwaystrustinthelordone Рік тому +1

    Interesting, seeing how the Ashkenaz are not Jewish by blood but via conversion. Perhaps that's why his name is Guido 🙄lol

    • @Viewer163
      @Viewer163 Рік тому +3

      No, his name is Guido, because he was assimilated German jew.

    • @alwaystrustinthelordone
      @alwaystrustinthelordone Рік тому

      @@Viewer163 Sure, I call that the same difference.

  • @CORVAIRWILD
    @CORVAIRWILD Рік тому

    Guns Kill
    Guns Kill
    GUNS KILL!