Alternate Picking Vs Economy Picking - DragonForce Herman Li & Jason Richardson All That Remains
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Shred Talk! Alternate picking vs economy picking guitar techniques, with DragonForce guitarist @Herman Li and @Jason Richardson of All That Remains.
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5:03
"Yeah................yeah."
"Yeah."
"Yeah."
This is all very good and insightful shit tho
Lol😂😂
Look at those 2 legends just chatting away about legend thing.
I bought all of Jasons tabs and would definitely recommend it, a very good learning tool to say the least! Also very true about UG, must spend a good chunk of time correcting tabs to be playable and more ergonomic.
All That Remains opened for DragonForce when I saw them live in '06 following the release of Inhuman Rampage. Can't believe that was 14 years ago, wow.
playing more than 8 different pitches per second is the human ear threshold to distinguish them from each other, otherwise only direction of travel and top and bottom notes in a phrase can be perceived. Hence, double up on repetition by alternate picking, or downpick with palmmute for that uncompromising pick attack. To promote effortless execution, use grouped/chunking twitching movements from the wrist. Use the arm and shoulder primarily to stabilise the picking hand.
Herman,there's a Brazilian guitarist called Roberto Barros now he is playing with Edu Falaschi, he has a very advanced alternated picking technique and He developed a revolutionary method, if you could invite him it would be amazing !!!
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chekmate herman!!! do a video with Roberto Barros
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I was once one of those turds on a comment section on a JR vid and I deeply regret falling into it 😫 been trying to be a more positive person and not cave to a troll and dive into the keyboard war ever since. Love this excerpt I need to sub to Herman on Twitch. Jason gives such great insight into has technique and the application and reasoning of it here. Love his playing and analysis of the music that he creates
YOOOOOO I feel like you two should have a permanent show. I feel like Herman Li and Jason Richardson are like two of only a small few people who pushed the envelope on pure old school metal shredding in the 2000s, and honestly of these guys were probably alot of peoples first guitar player who made them say "Okay I did not know that was fucking possible until right now". There's been alot of good guitarists in the 2000s but in terms of just straight setting the fretboard on fire balls to the walls speed metal shredding these two are the ones whove kept that spirit alive in a big way
I only found out who Jason Richardson was a week ago, now I'm obsessed with him I'm looking at guitar world videos featuring him, interviews with him. He is the first guitarist that made me want to try music for a career because he is a modern shredder making money from tabs and songs and he is so good to learn from. I've completely changed my own guitar playing style in the week that I've been listening to his music
Hey Herman invite Roberto Barros. The most brutal alternate picking from the last 4.54 billion years. 😈🤘🖤
Man you are sucking Roberto like a joruto
Love you guys, so cool
Thank you all for remind of me in the middle of this titans of guitar talk
Very Interesting. Never heard about economy picking before.
Herman, invite Roberto Barros... World deserves to know him. He has an awesome sharp technique and he is an awesome person.
Regards!
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7:16 SOOOO TRUE 😂😂😂
You are everywhere.
Hahaha
@@th6n you too
You changed your profile pic and now I don't know who you are anymore
Roberto Barros Cyborg the best alternate picking the universe.
4 ever and ever
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Paul Gilbert for the win
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Paul gilbert
Might just buy his tabs to support him, not anywhere near playing that fast but I feel like musicians especially now need the support
6:55 Follow the signs 🔥
Your thoughts on SWYBRID picking? I guess it put no limits on the amount of even/odd combinations you might come across while crossing strings.
Economy for Effortless Speed... Everytime I hear economy picking I remember Rick Graham's WTF lick
wow. I wish i could play like that.
learn
I wish I could, but I will never put in the time required now that I have a full time job.
@@thestibblr6637 honestly don't think I thought of that
This video is waaaay too advanced for me. I'm here like "What are alternate and economy picking?" But I like the guitar playing :D
Alternative is like, picking down up down up down up down
Economy is more like down up down down up down down up. Just the 2nd down changes string and gets a sweepy effect.
@@TheTom951guitar thanks for that, had no idea what economy was.
When you move to different strings you can :
- Move your pick up and down aka. alternate picking or
- Doing mini sweep ex. up up/down down picking(way less movement/economic picking)
1:59 That sounded like "Sea of lies" from Symphony X
6:56 I have really, really sure that I heard this before... not this specific solo, but all this pattern reminds me from Angra so much
Live and learn
@@chapalivre no, I think that it's from the Kiko's dvds
I did not expect to come to a metal guitar music theory lecture. Still cool to listen too.
Love the videos
You need to know Roberto Barros. He is a guitar monster and have an insane alternate picking technique.
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Jason Richardson is one of modern metals best
Now get Rick Graham on xD
I don't know how to play guitar but still watching this. Just my passion for music is strong.
Hi herman li 🤘 I am a big fan!
Hello Herman, Do you know Roberto Barros Cyborg !? He is the Brazilian guitarist for Edu Falaschi's band and has a very good concept of alternate picking, I would love it if you invited him to talk about it.
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9:27 *looks at guitars in the background
Herman Interview Rick Graham...
Oh yes please
Jason is that guy.
Two legends are talking about guitar and playing amazing scales, and I'm infatuated with chat talking about all the sports they've played.
Has anyone noticed that when jason played that slow riff he sounded literally liek Michael Romeo from Symphony X?
Love them! One of the few bands I saw live before I knew who they were and stuck with me
Playstaition One.. This is my childhood. Cool.
Downpicking: _"hey."_
I personally would love to buy pdf tabs for Dragonforce songs. Esspecially the bass parts. I am novice bass player but love the music so being able to get the sheet music from the source would be absolutely amazing
What about Pick Slanting?
Run..... Thats an octopus. Alien !!!! Aaaahhhhhh
You should invite Roberto Barros!!! Search for him, he has a revolutionary technique about alternate picking and also a great person to play guitar with!
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5:08 yeah...yeah...yeah...
super sick
Economy or alternate?
I use BAD picking. Its a mixture of both with a few unnecessary picking strokes thrown in for fun.
roberto barros is the most amazing guy in the alternate picking that the world has ever seen, please call him
I use all three, alternate, sweep and economy.
Herman li is the king
Your don't know Roberto Barros Brazilian guitarist
Don't are prepared for this
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BASS is the answer! No picking😎
Hahahaha!
@@dragonforce only slappp, $105.04 richer now, bass incoming ?
@@dragonforce this reply is a big deal for me, I'm taking a screenshot and hanging it on my wall. I love you all. ❤️😭🌈
No picking, only SLAPP or TAPP
Omg..this video is one of my dreams come true moment..but too bad they dont play something together
Whos that Cyborg good at again? Can someone pls tell me?
this video will torture davie 504
Any "guitar" topics would torture Davie, especially with Herman in it
@@cenningitis2910 he will pay for insulting the guitar.
That's my promise
@@obayaljaber8598 He paid already, 105 usd american dollars $$ for Herman Li to play the bass and he still didn't that stream
@@-GameHacKeR- I think Herman cannot play bass. Or he's afraid to be humiliated. 🤔😅
@@JR-vp6yg I've had that same thought as well but even if true Herman Li is very skilled and easily learn, He could teach himself or since is also well connected with alot of other artists he could learn from a professional bassist. Also since Herman Li has shown the bass he got he could already be doing some quick lessons online with some of his friends ;) Can't wait to see what comes from this forced collab XD Gonna be EPIC
Did i heard Follow The Signs solo? 👀🔥
Swybryd picking is the next step.
Dope
Why not legato?
Rhapsody ,!!! Ahhhhh rrrrrchhhh!!!
0: all that remains lml, six
Ah yes, the first 8 or 9 comments are about the same guy. If he’s that common of a goal, do it herman. Brazilians *never* disappoint. Both players, and crowds.
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I think he probably uses economy without even knowing it most of the time
stonks picking
dude you you gotta play the bass, Davie504 even gave you some nice usd american dollars XD legit he did.
I like shopping picking
You should invite Paul Gilbert
Roberto Barros Cyborg all the way !
If you want to expand the picking conversation you should consider Andy Wood. 🤘
Are you afraid of playing the Bass?
105$ is too little ?
WOO TITANFALL FAN LETS GO
Herman expects Davie to play underwater first, while Davie expects Herman to play bass first.
@我爱你我爱你 They aren't that similar. It was hard for me to start playing bass, after 2 years of guitar and drums. Maybe it is just me.
Alternative picking vs legato.
i cant do both
Why does jason play better fast than slow? It's the opposite for me
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hello
Greetings
Ahoy there
Hello there
Hi
why does his voice sound like ben shapiro
You're probably watching the video on 2x speed
Only economy picking
105 usd,play the bass now..
Stop ignoring Davie504 and play the bass
i was studying with paul gilbert long time ago and i always practice ap, but these days i realize the trhuth o ep is better , natural and eficient
I remember when Davie504 donated you
It’s official... Herman is a random picker.
Hot take: the UA-cam comments section is way better than it used to be. Case in point, this comment section.
I'm glad Jason does his own tabs, I bought the whole Mega Bundle and it's really good material for serious players. I also bought Polyphia tabs, but besides the ones Tim does for his solo stuff, it has tons of errors compared to how they play it because they pay a transcriber.
this might coonfuse you but polyphia play their own songs live differently. For example, 40oz is alternate picked in the studio version, but according to Tim, it's too unrealistic to pull off every single time live since he's not an alternate picking god like richardson, so he sweeps it instead. I'd imagine they play a lot of songs differently live because the studio versions are sometimes just too much. Almost every advanced technical guitarist does this, I've noticed Abasi play the woven web differently almost every time live for some reason.
@@AzureTears I've seen them change it up a bit in live recordings, but some of the tabs are just straight up wrong notes lol. Even when Tim does his tutorials, it's different than the tabs.
@@ethanjto Yeah, because the tabs are probably the studio recorded version whereas his tutorials are how he actually plays them live.
Tf is wrong with those bots of Roberto Barros or whatever his name is, he's nowhere near Jason's technique , if you really want someone that comes close to his alternate picking or that is maybe even better ,that would be Stephen Taranto.
WTH DID YOU SAY TO DAVIE AT TWICH??? ArE yOu aFraiD???¡??????
Pedal to the metal and others late sandwiches...
PLAY BASS.
Más de 12 años que se creó la banda y se ve que ah Herman aún le cuesta trabajo hablar inglés
alternate better
Donation reject
Mmmmmm the laziness
From indonesia
Herman Li: Economy P I C C
Jason Richardson: Alternate P I C C
Davie504: P I C C is illegal
Jason is amazing but he can not improvise. He can only play songs.
Davie504
im the 32nd view
Roberto Barros Cyborg the best alternate picking the universe.
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