What I learned training FRONT LEVER for 2.5 months | Training for Climbing

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  • @falloutnashvegas
    @falloutnashvegas 2 роки тому +14

    you made this mysterious semi magical exercise 100% understandable. never come close before and got full front lever on my first try after watch. thank you thank you

  • @peytonnurse2481
    @peytonnurse2481 3 роки тому +36

    This got me to my 1 leg front lever almost immediately

  • @stuffedquack
    @stuffedquack 3 роки тому +17

    It might be useful to note that flexing your glutes by pushing your hips forward is a good way to retain proper form as it straightens your lower back, forcing your thighs to form a line with your back.
    This is an awesome video and well needed with how much information can be found on this type of stuff.

  • @CaptainCalisthenics
    @CaptainCalisthenics 3 роки тому +7

    Dude, thanks for actually providing value in the vid. I created my channel for the EXACT same reason- the content on the big calisthenics channels is so cookie-cutter and useless. Best of luck!

  • @kaylee_shaw
    @kaylee_shaw 3 роки тому +2

    i shared this to my friend who also said it was super helpful, especially the “cranking down” tip and watching the progression portion at the end. thanks!

  • @pushinpeej
    @pushinpeej 2 роки тому

    the algorithm has blessed me by recommending this video. Good tips and insights into trimming out unnecessary exercises Boss!

  • @Sj-yf2jg
    @Sj-yf2jg Рік тому

    This guy is a saviour for us from another planet 🌌

  • @doublezfitness9316
    @doublezfitness9316 3 роки тому +1

    The "cranking down" tips was super important! Thank u for the video 😊

  • @chetnguyen5567
    @chetnguyen5567 Рік тому

    i wish i know your channel early, last 1 months i has at tusk fl and after that has reach the advanced, it take so much times to get another form. Well thanks for sharing the progression, i will only training one leg form

  • @aces5547
    @aces5547 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks man , I like how you made it much more easier to trigger the right muscle groups , and point out the negatives and workouts that were useless to make it more complicated for progression on the lever... makes a lot of sense!

  • @TheTyree72
    @TheTyree72 3 роки тому +14

    the tip on cranking as hard as possible while pretending to lay down in bed as been so helpful. Also, Ive just abandoned tucked variations on all skill exercises, its only helped me when I first learned l sit

  • @StumpenfeatBuzzDee
    @StumpenfeatBuzzDee 3 роки тому +6

    I will try this as soon as iam at Home. I can do a front leaver like you did in the beginning with bend arm and two legs and I will work with that to achieve better results. And i weight about 110kg it would be impressive to see someone doing a frontleaver with my weight and maybe even inspiring.

    • @tuyetto4530
      @tuyetto4530 3 роки тому +2

      That’s true. The heavier you are, the harder it may be, based on some survey data. More weight in your lower extremities seem to be the reason.

  • @ZeeshanZakaria
    @ZeeshanZakaria 2 роки тому +1

    Very helpful video.

  • @kcldvlogs4505
    @kcldvlogs4505 3 роки тому

    such a hard move, but seeing all of these positive comments about your tips gives me hope

  • @gustavrosgaardsrensen8028
    @gustavrosgaardsrensen8028 3 роки тому

    great video my friend

  • @williamgomes1736
    @williamgomes1736 3 роки тому +1

    i think the upside down deadlift is pretty important for the front lever. it helps achieve good form in the full front by straightening the pelvic.

    • @qweasd9153
      @qweasd9153 3 роки тому

      I've tried it but I couldn't feel the same muscles activate. I use a lot more upper trap than lat when doing upside down deadlift. While front lever is mostly lat activation. I think the video explains well why he didn't like doing upside deadlifts

  • @SebastianReads
    @SebastianReads 3 роки тому

    Nice vid im trying to learn it now too and uploading it. Some good tips i will try for next workout

  • @BoomHayer
    @BoomHayer 3 роки тому

    hey mate, that things about relaxing legs, and useles abs(i have some tip so proves it) its so in point and i think about it last weeks(trying come back my lever) good video, like and sub, well done!

  • @evening_sw
    @evening_sw 3 роки тому +1

    i absolutely agree. abs are definetely not that important for the front lever, yeah you kinda use them but you dont need to do very specific ab workouts to get a frontlever. also having a really high weighted pullup is not necessary either, thats more useful if you want to learn a One arm pullup. ofc you definetely need some strenght but not like 70% of added bw. also what are the benefits of doing front lever in climbing? i learned it as a calisthenics/gymnastics skill but even if i can do it and most climbers cant i doubt id be half as good as them lol

  • @giotravel6910
    @giotravel6910 3 роки тому

    Amazing video, big thanks

  • @markkealy4417
    @markkealy4417 2 роки тому

    I agree with almost everything you've said, although the 15 pullups as defined in that video you showed seems a bit excessive for a starting point, if they consider a "correct" pullup as a full chest to bar pullup then 15 of them seems pretty damn difficult (My biggest pet peeve with anything canistenics related is how they constantly move the goal posts on the basic exercises). And I don't see the issue with a fully tucked front lever as a progression, its just an easier version "bad habits" don't really apply in such a simple exercise. Nobody in human history has been unable to do a full front lever because of excessive ab engagement
    If anyones looking for a progression reference, I'm 6'2"(187cm) and I can briefly hold a 1 leg straight, one leg tucked front lever with 16 chin above bar pullups and a 50% bw weighted pullup.

    • @kitesport1
      @kitesport1 2 роки тому

      I refined my front lever while not being able to do pull ups for months due to tendon elbow injury, a couple of things really help using bands. Band feet to bar and go above normal front lever and do negatives and also a band around waist to hands on bar and hold lever as long as possible will give good form.

  • @krazyninja954
    @krazyninja954 3 роки тому +1

    Your starting point is what I achieved in 3 months. This was still a good tip though.

  • @grtf47
    @grtf47 Рік тому

    thanks for this vid man

  • @calisthenicsindia8498
    @calisthenicsindia8498 3 роки тому

    Good video 👍🏻.

  • @xxMADxxSCIENTISTxx
    @xxMADxxSCIENTISTxx 3 роки тому +4

    2:27 As far as I understand, you were completing sets of 4 with +43% added. Your true 1RM was probably far greater than that (at least 60%, I'd guess).

  • @leescrew4455
    @leescrew4455 3 роки тому +12

    Hey man thank you so much for this vid it has helped incomparably more than any other professional athletes have.
    Also, how frequently did you train the front lever? Once every 2 days??
    Sorry, one random question for the final note. What level do you climb when bouldering?

    • @bossclimbs
      @bossclimbs  3 роки тому +13

      Hi Leescrew, thanks for the comment. A big reason why I made this tutorial is because I was so tired of big youtube names making bad front lever “tutorial” videos just so they can get another video out or get more views.
      I trained the front lever exactly how I listed in the progression in the video. I recorded myself at the beginning of each session. Some days, it would be every 2 days. Sometimes I’d get really sore or would be really busy with school so I wouldnt touch it for a week. Probably twice a week is a good schedule because it is quit a demanding move and i would get sore like no tomorrow after training it.
      I climb around V5-V6 as my limit at the moment!

  • @aaronmartens2903
    @aaronmartens2903 2 роки тому

    I felt like i was alone thinking front levers had no core, another variation is to keep your body straight but have your body angled with your toes up to an angle where you can hold ten seconds.

  • @dojanglesclimb
    @dojanglesclimb 2 роки тому

    The tucked variations are only useful for those that need to prepare their elbow tendons. Climbers already have strong tendons so that step can definitely be skipped!

  • @NedimMalik
    @NedimMalik 2 роки тому

    Great video ;)

  • @salmanhussain6863
    @salmanhussain6863 3 роки тому +2

    the best video so far for FL

  • @derekxiaoEvanescentBliss
    @derekxiaoEvanescentBliss 3 роки тому

    Very cool sir

  • @r.i.pmaple8450
    @r.i.pmaple8450 3 роки тому

    The grip is so so important i got my 4 second floppy front lever into a 8.5 second decent form front lever

  • @JahnsenAng
    @JahnsenAng 3 роки тому

    Nice to see this video, i was osvaldos one for around 2 weeks, but i dont have a bar, but i do have a dip station, its harder to see/do a full front level when im not hanging. Any tips?

    • @bossclimbs
      @bossclimbs  3 роки тому +1

      Hmm that's a tough one. The bar I used was actually very cheap/bootleg; just 3 screw eyes and a metal bar but it gets the job done. If you have the space to build one, I recommend you do so, but it is not totally necessary. Sometimes I do the front lever under a bunkbed, so I'm not fully hanging either. The feeling isn't much different at all. I think it's more of a mental thing to get over. Once you realize, it's not much different than the fully hanging version, it shouldn't bother you too much.
      On the dip station, you can start hanging with feet on the ground extending as far out as tolerated. Again, it shouldn't be too much different than hanging with no feet on the ground. Do the scapular pullup, then pull down into the various front lever progression variations! It’d be hard to lift into the front lever at first, but you’ll build up the strength by overloading the muscles needed to do the move. Thats why I recommend attempting two straight leg version asap.
      Or maybe you can start from a sit or sloppy/clean L-sit on the dip bar, do the scapular pullup, then pull down. It's more difficult/advanced but if you practice it consistently, you can probably get really strong really fast.
      Hope this helps!

    • @JahnsenAng
      @JahnsenAng 3 роки тому

      @@bossclimbs thanks!, i did try to do the double leg full front lever on the dip station last night, i fell suddenly once my legs were lengthening, 😭, which means i dont have enough strength yet, quite difficult cause the dip bar is not that stable. But u suggest to just keep doing the “full front lever” so i can just build the strength to actually do one?

    • @bossclimbs
      @bossclimbs  3 роки тому +1

      Oh, I see. That does seem really hard considering you have very little space to hang. I found the exercise at 12:17-12:30 to be really helpful to build strength for the full front lever, but it requires a taller bar. I imagine that the best exercise you can do for now would be doing the straddle (14:03-14:12) or one leg front lever. Some days, I enjoy just doing the one leg and try to hold as long as i can. I occasionally switch the leg i put straight for the one leg just to balance things out. Practicing straddle/oneleg for about a month should increase your strength considerably

    • @dxntevxntry6975
      @dxntevxntry6975 3 роки тому

      @@bossclimbs I cant horizontal doing it like on 12:17 . I fall fast. Any suggestions?

  • @roronoazoro4069
    @roronoazoro4069 2 роки тому

    Hello, how many seconds did you hold the tuck before passing to the one leg ?

  • @SandyClamberg
    @SandyClamberg 8 місяців тому

    Do you think hes rounded because his legs are tucked to his chest?

  • @sleeplessi93681
    @sleeplessi93681 5 місяців тому

    I have to say after 4 weeks of intensive training fromt lever mine looks better but i have 10months of calisthenics exercise and training D i can hold front lever on average day 3 sec clear from and stradle up to 9 sec then adv tucked fro another 15 or so atm im working on planche adv tuck and basics for muscle up like dips snd high pull ups

  • @calisthenicsindia8498
    @calisthenicsindia8498 3 роки тому +1

    Ab training is not counterproductive to the move. U do need some strength to keep the hollow body position and maintain your lower limbs in that horizontal position. At the same time the thing is that much ab strength will just be gained by good form pull-ups and huge emphasis is a myth .

  • @bicho_ovd
    @bicho_ovd 3 роки тому

    Loved it

  • @masterbaitercr2546
    @masterbaitercr2546 2 роки тому

    What would you say are the prerequisites to have before training front lever

  • @DinoTamer23
    @DinoTamer23 2 роки тому

    Did it help your climbing any though?

  • @eliascalisthenics1577
    @eliascalisthenics1577 3 роки тому

    Im progressing on my frontlever already for 7 months... i still only can do a straddle one for 4 sec's

  • @leosun3094
    @leosun3094 2 роки тому

    what grade could you climb before starting front lever training?

  • @tomkong8750
    @tomkong8750 3 роки тому

    This is the Matrix

  • @RespectMyTalk
    @RespectMyTalk 3 роки тому

    Did you train daily?

    • @bossclimbs
      @bossclimbs  3 роки тому +1

      The dates listed in the progression were literally the only days I trained it due to my busy schedule. Not everyday. A little rest goes a long way.

  • @tbnh3908
    @tbnh3908 Рік тому

    Wait, are you vietnamese?

  • @PlanBCZ
    @PlanBCZ 2 роки тому +3

    In this video you are talking about inclined front lever with bad form. Yes, bad form is achievable in few months, but you are wasting your time because you are training different muscles and are more prone to injuries. To learn proper front lever you need to start from tuck again.
    Did you ever ask yourself why so many experienced calisthenics athletes recommend exercises that you find useless?
    What if you are doing something wrong and they are right instead of the opposite?
    - 3:07 "Not an ab exercise" Because you are using incorrect form. To make a horizontal straight line you need to have full body tension. Relaxing any part of your body is counterproductive.
    - 3:47 A lot of tutorials have abs prerequisites because many beginners are not able to get from bar hang to tuck front lever.
    - 4:04 This photo shows the incorrect scapula position which can happen to beginners if they tuck their knees first.
    - 8:54 You are doing different exercise. At the top your body should be in a straight line, but your arms are bent and you are piking your hips, which completely turns off core tension and therefore making your exercise useless.
    - 9:46 Never do this with any exercise! This is the fastest way to get injured. Don't skip progressions there is no shortcut. It's like trying to lift some heavy weight without applying proper form. Instead, use a rubber band.
    - 10:25 Probably not a good exercise for front lever. Just look at Simonster's video - Honest Ice Cream Maker Review.
    - 10:55 Why did you change your camera angle? Your form didn't suddenly improve. We just can't see where the horizontal line is.
    - 12:46 This is a lame excuse. If front lever was your priority, why didn't you find 20 minutes to do your front lever holds?
    - 13:13 Why after warmup do you waste energy on easier progression? Start with the hardest you can do with proper form and slowly regress.
    - 13:20 Swinging while holding the position is a big red flag. This shows that you have zero control.
    Hope you didn't do any permanent damage to your body.
    For other people: Think twice before applying any advice from this video.

    • @ciblochannel666
      @ciblochannel666 2 роки тому +1

      I 100% agree with you.
      people now tend to claim they achieve full front lever with piking form or slightly bent arms lol.
      this video advises to not engage the core and to relax the legs. what kind of joke is this lol
      the guy prolly needs to understand what hollow body is!

    • @thanhto3811
      @thanhto3811 2 роки тому +1

      Lol why you hating

    • @ciblochannel666
      @ciblochannel666 2 роки тому +1

      lol nowadays criticizing equals to hating

    • @bossclimbs
      @bossclimbs  2 роки тому +4

      Hey PlanB, thank you for your helpful comment and thoughts. I am pretty new to calisthenics and originally learned the front lever just because it's a popular movement trained by rock climbers. There is much for me to learn, and many of your opinions are correct. Although I am not an experienced calisthenic athlete, I originally wanted to make the video anyways to share the ideas i found helpful; otherwise I would forget years later and not best teach it from the point of view as a beginner. Analogy is: while many university professors are very recognized, some of their teaching method are questionable.
      If I were to remake this tutorial, there are things I would change, such as adding the "full body tension" detail you mention as I found through the last year that engagement of lower back can be important to prevent injury and add stability. The idea I wanted to get across is that although ab is used, focusing on abs can distract those who can't front lever yet as straight-pull down movement with the back muscles is the main thing here that many dont realize at first glance. Once basic form is learned, adding more core engagement as necessary IS helpful to correct form.
      At 8:54, the main idea here IS to show my incorrect form. I wanted to learn the front lever fast, which meant I needed to practice high-yield exercises that would allow me to gain strength fast and eliminate low-yield exercises. This is why I didn't like Heria's excercise too much because I would pretty much need to dedicate a lot of time to learning the movement of his "upside-down deadlift" as a prerequisite, which...in the rock climbing world is not seen too often, if at all.
      9:46 - I think it doesn't hurt to try out front lever with two legs at this point. It gives you opportunity to try it out, and I never felt like I was risking getting injured by doing this. If your body can't handle it, it simply won't hold. important thing is to be warm to prevent injury.
      10:25 - Your opinion is true and I agreed in the video :) (I didn't recommended it). the ice cream maker is too complex of a movement if you can't front lever.
      12:46 - Not a lame excuse, my main discipline is rock climbing and after a while I just wanted to focus on getting better at rock climbing. As a student doctor, working, and climbing, you can imagine how time can be scarce.
      13:13 - I should have specified that the one leg front lever was part of my warmup. I warm up with increasing intensity and doing reps on the one leg is warmup before attempting two leg front lever.
      13:20 - I actually found your comment helpful and will pay more attention to the swing when learning other movements. I wouldn't say that I have "zero control"; I think that's exaggerating, but the control is obviously not good. I also forgot to mention, the bar i learned the front lever on actually spins a because it is held by screw eyes so I will find better places to film for future videos.
      Overall, it was a pleasure to hear your comment and opinions! It will help me make better videos in the future. Cheers.

    • @derekchen5749
      @derekchen5749 2 роки тому +1

      I think this video is great for people who want to achieve a protracted FL in like 6 months or so. Osvaldo’s exercises are meant to develop good scapular position.
      Even though you got “it” in 2.5 months, your training method was not necessarily correct or effective. if you look at your full FL holds the angle between your arms and body is very large (75+ degrees) due to a downward angled upper body with your long arms. This is comparable to like, a proper form advanced tuck or one leg for most people.
      That being said, not a big deal for you since it’s not your main goal, but when you make a video like this it causes people ignore these important issues (scapular position) and understand that arm length greatly influences front lever difficulty

  • @ДмитрийХисматуллин-д5ш

    It is so stupid to skip hypertrophy and do only isometric and straight arm exercises... You wont gain strenght this way

    • @_uchiha
      @_uchiha Рік тому +2

      yeah i agree, i think should dynamic exercises should have been added

  • @xrst8397
    @xrst8397 3 роки тому +1

    u said nothing wrong in this video but bro you didnt manage to do a front lever... ur holding it inclined... i guess ur progress wasnt fast as u claimed u are still in the process

  • @robeldebrabanter623
    @robeldebrabanter623 2 роки тому

    No bro the L sit and te other ewercices that you think are for abs also work your hole core do more research before you talk but ur progress is insane tho

    • @_uchiha
      @_uchiha Рік тому +2

      can you do front lever???

  • @gruffhighlander3188
    @gruffhighlander3188 2 роки тому

    That wasnt a frontlever, neither a 4 to 5 seconds one please dont give advice if you have 0 idea on how to train and achieve that move.

  • @eliezer4478
    @eliezer4478 3 роки тому

    imo the most problem for people that stuck in fl progression is not because of the exercise but because of their own height and bw. btw kinda disagree with you saying that abs doesn't really matter that much in fl progression. You probably don't have any problem with abs because you are already have strong abs from climbing. I've seen people that practice weighted pull up tried fl for the first time and able to hold for 2-3 seconds which is good.

  • @Barelyboulders
    @Barelyboulders 3 роки тому

    very impressive! front lever is something ive wanted to try for a while, I guess its time to try

    • @bossclimbs
      @bossclimbs  3 роки тому +1

      Let’s go!!! Next vid: “I tried Sofya Yokoyama’s training routine. Here’s how it went”

    • @Barelyboulders
      @Barelyboulders 3 роки тому

      @@bossclimbs YESS!

  • @vijaynegi6978
    @vijaynegi6978 3 роки тому +1

    Which exercise he can't do he thinks that it is waste of time 👍🏾 🤣 reverse deadlift is very effective for front lever